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Your opinion is flawed.to you, maybe. To me, no.
To me and everyone else who has posted here pointing out the flaws in your opinion.
Everyone has thoughtfully stated why you are indeed wrong while you have said nothing to actually prove your statements as being correct. All you have done is call people liars and proclaim yourself as the speaker of truth.
Now unless you can actually prove any of your statements to be true or disprove any of the many rebuttals to your ridiculous claims please just leave the forums now. Or are you just so big of a troll at this point you need to be fed more and more ?
"Stfu noob i don't care what you have to say"
How do you like it?
wow another fool who complains o-0 lol look man if you dont like eve and give up just pass in the pie and soda people wont beleave you because you dont want to invest time into the game .hey i respect vets and players but remeber one thin this is a different game from other mmrpg eve is time based on time and how much you know :P.maybe if you invest some time into the game study it and learn it maybe you can beat vets :P
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To the OP, this is bullshit.
If your talking about a one on one fight the character skills play a larger part. But most people work with other people, after all this is an MMORPG!
You wouldnt believe the gangs of faction warfare noobs currently running around low sec killing everything in their path. They even took down a Red Alliance POS yesterday with the help of some vets so your point is really shown to be worthless in practice.
seams many dont get eve
if eve is so unfair whit n00b
WHY A N00B (2hours training) CAN SCRAMBLE(stop warp) A CARRIER ? (u need 200 days skill train tu use one well)
WHY A 60 DAYS OLD CHARACTER CAN STOP FROM WARP A TITAN (value on ebay 10000$) ?(u need over 310 days of skill train to use it well)
so is still eve unfair whit n00bs ?
BestSigEver :P
Aside from the point and web part what I said is still valid. Either way a BB pilot @ 60km (optimal ECM range for my BB) can perma-jam and BS. Also even with very good drone skills you only get a max range of 45-50km on T2 drones (aside from any mods/implants) so that BB is safe from drones at that range, at least against a Mega.u actually think someone be SO freakin retarded being a 2 year or 3 year player wont use his T-2 Drones? leave alone u cant get Perma JAM and not ONLY that before u can do something ur Drones will finish him off and u think he will be that close u think the EFFECTIVENSS of the Jammers wud work? and that u mentioned WEB so oblisly u will be in close range menaing u will not get perma Jammed Obiviuolsy the second u lose that JAM and ofcourse a 3 year old player wud train "Compensaton Skills" for tanking making u almost invulenrable to his Attack so he dies eitehr way Eitehr ur DAY dreaming ur Adam-offline game with noobishness or u dont know wat ur talking about and NOT the least ever heard of RIGS? dump in a TRI mark and the BB wont have enough Power to keep the freeakin ECM on and not only that even if he did use a CAP injector too ...so wher is ur pointless point?
My point is still proven. A 2mil sp noob pilot in a BB has just made a 45mil+ sp vet useless. Seems like noobs can compete very well.
ur still wrong u said ur gona be DEAD but max range of a t-2 warp disruptor is around 24km and witha Arazu max is around 60km? with all skills so how can u kill something that can warp out?
the question can this player kill it?
the question can this player kill it?
can any other 5 years player kill it alone ? NO
is a MMO massively multiplayer online not a single player online
wtf go and play wow
BestSigEver :P
the question can this player kill it?
Spoken like someone who has absolutely no clue what the hell they are talking about. To take a Titan down you need a rather large Capital fleet with lots more support ships. No 5 year vet in this game can single handily take down a Titan. Can someone hold a Titan down ? Sure but they'll need back up to get enough DPS to kill it. This isn't WoW where you go around WTFPWN'ing people in duels kid. EVE requires teamwork and everyone including a n00b is potentially a valuable fleet asset. Everything from recon pilots, tackling pilots, jamming pilots, remote repairing pilots, etc.. are important to a fleet op or gate camp gang.
u dont get me
if look better all that "job" is most important in pvp whit out a tackler there is no kill
BestSigEver :P
Cosy ur proving how much a of a guy can be perceptionless and to figure out wat this response was intended for.... DONT u get it N00B with refernce 1 vs 1 Carrier on carrier a 5 year player can kill with same ships and obviously he will have a better fittings cause he has trained more DPS / Drone dealing SP's and related tanking skills , and ofcurse the 5 year can kill it ALONE i cant belive u came into such stupid conclusions wihtout even bother reading and thinking the fact is wat the OP said is killing 1 vs 1 related its NOT always u get a chance to be in a BIG fleet to make a differnce with low skills yes ofcourse in the begginign ur just a simple Scout and a tackler who gets to HOLD big targets and die instantly but quiet a few times when ur in low sec u do come across 1 VS 1 at the that time wat u GONA do?
hold a target and wait for him to kill ya? very rarely u have chance to have a good setup with low skills to up agsint a high SP player who normalyl flies a HAC as sually totaly nano-ed so he can escape when he wants and at the same time KIll the attacker ..i have a feeling u havent experiencded eve properly either u were jsut given ships to blow up or ur just saying for the heck for replying.
I tried to figure out what you were trying to say, but i don't get it.
What is your point? What do you want to say us?
Could you please write it down with punctuation and in proper english?
I am assuming you tried to say that a vet could beat someone else in a carrier one on one. Correct?
This is a strange point, as basic carrier setups (t2) tank around 3k to 5k (6k for a short time on a chimera) dps, while they only deal roughly 1k dps. Plus, the whole argument is so flawed on so many levels it is not even funny. Starting with the point that a solo carrier is a sitting duck, to the point that they are never used solo anyways but with a larger supportfleet..
What are you rambling about with your 1v1? Eve is a teambased game, not a solo beat 'em up.
Again i'm asking: What is your point?
great u failed to figure out too , eve is teambased ofcourse but how often do u get to hook up with gangmates to kill a carrier or have jsut enough teammates with sufficienct SP's to fly the ships required to get enough DPS + NEuts + NOS + ECM gang mates so until u get the gang mates u require to kill the carrier effectively using LOW SP characters say around with 6-8 months atleast ..and for the case how come i c solo carirer(longer time player) killing carrier(shorter time player) ..BS's? camping low sec gates? Choke points as such .. ofcourse u wud say wait until u max ur skill for that...oh yea wait for like 1.5 years even to get a good fighting chance even with the best setups when the 5 year guy no doubt fitted with (faction + Officer Mods + t-2 no doubt).
So far 95% of the kills i got is becoz of players who played lesser time than me and the rest of the 5% coz i had mates to backup to kil the longer time based player anways ur point of not seeing a Solo carrier then i guess ur just stuck in 0.0 space with a massively huge allaince ..the only way i c the game can be balanced fir the new players is to Speedup the skill training or jsut lessen the time to train so the catch up can be made ofcourse they have done the one part for imrpioving for the new playees By starting SP's at 800k-900k rather than before which was at 200k i belive so and if skills level dint matter much why would they increase the starting SP?
This of course explains how one of the militias only killed three of the five carriers hotdropping them, while their fleet consisted mainly of newbies in frigates and cruisers.
Wait a second...
Please start writing correct english, so i don't get a headache trying to decypher your cryptic wall of words.
last i saw of a carrier kill it took like wat? 150 newbies was it that got posted on the eve-o forum? are u getting a headache now reading 2 lines as well or do u need glasses
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I don't mean to be mean but your English typing in your posts is a bit hard to understand.
Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981
I don't mean to be mean but your English typing in your posts is a bit hard to understand.
Welcome to the world of " text-based communications".
Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands? ~Ernest Gaines
Totally agree with the OP. I tried the game, loved it, but stop playing cause there is no point. You'll never be able to compete against peoples who've been playing for 3 years. I'm sure CCP could get at least as much of peoples playing the game if they could open up a new servers and gives new players a competive chance, i know i'll jump in right away, but they wont.
you might not be able to compete, but my two month old market alt is performing fantastically, and my two week old FW pvp alt is doing really well as well.
essentially, you cant compete. i can. what does this tell you?
Please re read all the posts and threads on this subject and you will find that the myth of new players never catching up has been debunked many times.
A new server would actually make it even more difficult for new players than playing on the old server. Right now the balance of power is spread out nicely keeping everyone in line where if a new server was put up someone like Goonswarm would take it all over immediately and that would be the end of it.
i have 2 characters, one has 55 million sp, the other has 28 million. if they were to fight, the 28 million would win almost every time. the younger char has specialized strictly on T2 cruisers and battlecruisers, and is a fearsome sleipnir/vagabond fighter.
the older char is a great miner, industrialist, inventor, trader and corp manager, but cant fly any combat ship bigger than a destroyer.
who would you bet your money for on a 1vs1 fight?
i have 2 characters, one has 55 million sp, the other has 28 million. if they were to fight, the 28 million would win almost every time. the younger char has specialized strictly on T2 cruisers and battlecruisers, and is a fearsome sleipnir/vagabond fighter.
the older char is a great miner, industrialist, inventor, trader and corp manager, but cant fly any combat ship bigger than a destroyer.
who would you bet your money for on a 1vs1 fight?
ur forgetting something the point was about PVP char going up against another PVP char mate ....not a carebear char against a pvp char.
i have 2 characters, one has 55 million sp, the other has 28 million. if they were to fight, the 28 million would win almost every time. the younger char has specialized strictly on T2 cruisers and battlecruisers, and is a fearsome sleipnir/vagabond fighter.
the older char is a great miner, industrialist, inventor, trader and corp manager, but cant fly any combat ship bigger than a destroyer.
who would you bet your money for on a 1vs1 fight?
ur forgetting something the point was about PVP char going up against another PVP char mate ....not a carebear char against a pvp char.
no, that was not the point. the point was that someone claimed that it was impossible for a 8 million char to win against a 10 million char. and the beauty of this game is that sp means really nothing, because they can be expended on many different skills. that is why A NEW PLAYER IS PERFECTLY ABLE TO COMPETE, WHETER ON PVP OR ANY OTHER LAYER OF THE GAME.
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I always used to hate it when people jumped in threads they hadn't followed, but I just have to with this thread. All I have to say is, the OP does not fully grasp the concept of EVE pvp.