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Is Dark Age of Camelot worth it?
Zephrith
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I been thinking of maybe join daoc if UO doesn't work, is it worth the money? speaking of money, how much is it really? thanks.
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Ok, I'm going to tell you my DAoC experience, as it might help you depending on what type of gamer you are.
I downloaded the free 7-day trial, and at the end of that I thought 'Ok, this is pretty cool, it'll be a good time-filler till WoW comes out (or whatever else I want to play)'. So I ran out and bought DAoC Platinum, 39.99 CDN, and the end of August is when my subscription runs out. Yep, I cancelled, I guess DAoC wasn't my cup of tea, and might not be yours.
The thing is, I found it to have a very boring level grind. The lower levels (20 and below) are so underpopulated because at level 50 (max level) you can make new characters and get them to level 20 in like 10 minutes by using /level command. So until level 20 you basically on your own except for other noobs llike you who run around asking for directions.
I was having fun until about level 15, when I finally moved out of the first main cave only to find the same thing in the next area. So I asked around, 'When does this game start getting really fun?', and everyone told me around 40+, when you start to play with the majority of the population and RvR (PvP in this game, Realm vs. Realm combat). Now, I'm not the type of gamer who is going to pay for a game that he has to play for a month or 2 until it doesn't seem like a chore to play. So I tried different characters, but really, I just gave up after awhile because I don't want to accomodate myself to like their game, thats their job. The RvR at my level, (25 Paladin, Merlin), was really boring, as it consisted of spawing in your Keep, running for 5 minutes out to the Central keep, and looking for members of the other realms as they desperatly try to get withing 50 meters of the CK. (I believe every server in this game is dominated in RvR by the Albion realm, having the largest population.)
Some veteran was nice enough to give me 200 gold, which was quite a bit for a level 5 noob. It lasted me awhile, then I started getting money from hunting in higher places, so I decided to try crafting. The idea for their crafting isnt bad, but in the end you realize your sitting there... pushing one key, waiting a minute, then again, for hours after hours. But, with most MMO's, their crafting isn't much better.
There is a new expansion coming out that seems will make this game better, as it provides new content for lower levels (last expansion, Trials of Atlantis, was only good for people who have played the game for a long time, adding new master levels and quests that made this game try to be like EQ PvE). But.. this new expansion, Catacombs, doesn't come out until December, and by then, new MMO's will be out that blow this game away.
As for the cost, its $12.95/month, and the game itself is really cheap to buy. In fact, if you just want DAoC, you don't have to buy it. If you download the free trial, that gives you the game. I think the best deal would be to get the Gold Edition, which comes with Shrouded Isles expansion, and it was only $19.99. Consider Platinum (with all ToA aswell) only if you plan on playing this game for awhile, instead of just a filler till one of the new MMO's come out.
So there you have it, if you don't mind pushing yourself to make the game more fun for you, go ahead, it might take awhile. You might even find the low levels to be interesting, and if you do, great. IMO, Mythic's customer base is going to plummet in a few months, and the game will shatter.
I could care less if it does.
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God damn this board. I had a long ass post telling you how my experience went in DAoC as a 3 year player, I dont know what happened, but its all gone now,.
Inshort. The game sucks, everyones leaving except albs and when they have no one to kill wonder how long they will keep the game operating. It is in it dying throws. As soon as WOW or GW releases, DAoC will be gutted. Even the Albs are getting disgusted at how easy they have it. Mid and Hibs can not compete in New Frontiers. Mythic seems unwilling to do anything to correct the balance problem in classes and population. With all these problems, the newest patch they give us a puppy that follows you around and does absolutely NOTHING, there game is falling apart and they give us fluff.
STAY AWAY from this game at all costs.
I've played for almost three years, love it and doubt I'll leave it anytime soon.
But then I'm not into RVR and all the l33t stuff, just like to have fun with friends.
But it depends on what you are wanting from a game.
HOW WRONG YOU ARE MY FRIEND, HOW WRONG YOU ARE
I just came back from a break of DAoC and i come to find out that they now give an XP and Loot drop bonus to underpopulated realms, which is all mids and hibs on every server. They also give you a free level every 2 days if you gain good amount of xp or somthing like that... New frontiers was a free expansion... it really is in the category of expansion too because they totally remake the battlegrounds and frontiers and add in high quality models and textures for the castles ect... for instance now you can attack walls with catapults and blow holes in them to enter. I played alb in guinevere for a while when NF came out and it seemed there were always enough mids and hibs to keep me mad for getting zerged..... also in NF they now let you gain XP for killing other players and no death penalty besides RVR sickness which wears off in a couple mins....
As one that has played DAOC since it was released from beta, I will share my point of view. I recently cancelled my accounts, but I will say that DAOC is the best MMORPG around today, and I have tried just about all of them from EQ to Lineage2. Believe me, I've tried to find something better, for I've had my frustrations with DAOC for a long time.
Mythic is trying to iron out the problems since NF was released. It's a work in progress that's for sure. At first one realm dominated all the servers, but that has dramatically changed. If you look at the servers today, you'll see that Albions have just about lost everything. There is also an attempt to speed up the xp grind.
You may ask why I cancelled my accounts after all these years? I'm a player that likes to solo, and DAOC isn't a game that is conducive for soloing. Despite the difficulties to soloing, one could find ways of doing it by choosing certain classes and having a buff-bot. With the advent of ToA and NF, it's impossible to solo in any productive way. New Frontiers radically changed the game into siege warfare in which it's all about large groups taking keeps and towers. The need for skills or tactics are relatively meaningless. This wasn't the way DAOC started.
The management has also radically changed from the way it started. For about the first two years after release, there wasn't any expansions. In about the last 18 mos, you have had to buy two expansions, SI and ToA. Now you will have to buy three expansions when Catacombs is released. This is getting a little absurd.
I'm looking at "Mourning" now. It looks very familiar to DAOC, and I hope that it will permit those that prefer soloing rather than having to group to enjoy the game.
Well I played daoc since release except for a short period of time to try out other mmos. I can tell you this, right now there just isnt any mmo that even compares to daoc. I tried SWG, Horizons, Shadowbane, FFXI, and EVE online. Out of all of those I can say without a doubt that daoc is the best by far.
I stressed tested WOW and it seems nice but I am concerned that the pvp system is not going to have any real dept in it like daoc. I will give blizzard one thing though, they have built what seems to be a solid game. If I wasnt going to playing catacombs I would probably be playing it.
FFXI is another game that is pretty good but just could not hold my interest like daoc. The game did have a lot of content for PVE. People complain about level grind in daoc. Well I tell you if that bugs you in daoc dont waste your money on ffxi. Another thing I didnt like about FFXI was the forced questing. To be able to do anything it seemed you needed to gain fame in towns and quest your tail off. But FFXI had a really cool market with a auction house, and left a place for even the lowbies to make money on. And as far as pvp goes in ffxi. It is a abortion after thought. If you like pvp dont even think about this game.
SWG had so much potential with so little content, It just pisses me off to think about it.
EVE online, seems to be stable and has gained some popularity. I think on this one it really isnt the game itself but just my personal taste.
Shadowbane, sorry if some of you liked this but the game to me was poorly supported and throw together and rushed to release. So many games out there that are so much better.
Horizons is one of those games that had so much potential but was released to early. They had one of the best crafting systems around but lacked the drop and content for the adventures. Also the game was extremely buggy and laggy. This could have been a great one.
So If you asked me, I would say without a doubt play daoc. Be sure to pick up the expansions. These improve the graphic and add content that make the game even more enjoyable. I think for 29 US you can get all three in a package. Some peeps hated TOA an SI, I for one love them.
Anyway just my opinions on some mmos out there. Excuse my spelling and grammar. I am not the best writer and will never claim to be.
All in all its a solid game with some good mechanics. Lots of choices but terrible character customization. Its hard to be unique or recognizable like you can in games like SWG or COH. Its got some great loot and nice PVP system.
Its biggest problem unfortunately is its totally outdated. Just like AO and the original EQ. They wil keep pushing out expansions as long as the longtime players will buy them but as for starting out brand new in DAOC......I wouldnt reccomend it.
You will find most of the people playing are high level and wont be likely to interact with you.
My advice to you is to wait. There are lots of good MMOs coming out very soon. You can start at the same time everyone else does and build lasting relationships that in the end will be more rewarding than the things you do while building them.
Last but not least if you really want to get the most out of whatever MMORPG you decide to play for your own sake TRY ROLEPLAYING!!! it is what these games were meant for. It is the reason why UO and EQ were so successful in the beginning. People used to LIVE the game instead of just arbitrarily slaughtering monsters for loot. They got involved in a story and interacted with each other as though they were the person in the story.
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The good thing about daoc is that you can download the client and play for free 15 days. That is one reason I have'nt played coh cause it could be a good game but no matter what anybody says it can be for you or not. I don't belive in spending 49 bucks to find out I do not like it. It can have awesome reviews, but everybody is a different person. Take the chance and download the client and try it. First advice in lvl 1 to 20 goto si land and do kill tasks. If you choose mid or hib most likely you will get the underdog bonus. More xp, coin, rp and free lvls.
GL and HF
I played DAoC since the beta, and I've taken 2 breaks:
once for a year in 2003 and again now a perm-break meaning I finally quit the game. It's a good game if you don't mind level grind that is mainly killing mobs... the people are polite and intelligent, something that is a difficult thing to find in many MMORPGs...
The game has a big fanbase, good pvp, and is fun if you can find a guild really fast...
the game is crap if you aren't a big fan of community works and grinding...
Interests: EQ2 & Wow (OMG!!)
Played: EQ, DAoC, AC, AC2, UO, Meridian59, CoH, Horizons, Planetside, & SWG
Liked Most: DAoC
Interests: EQ2 & Wow (OMG!!)
Played: EQ, DAoC, AC, AC2, UO, Meridian59, CoH, Horizons, Planetside, & SWG
Liked Most: DAoC
I have been playing the game for over a year now and I loved it ever since. It's a great game but I suggest you find a good guild that can help you out a bit. By helping out I don't mean powerleveling cos that kinda kills the fun and the result is that you have a high-level character but you don't know how to use/play it. There's plenty of content and places to visit. If you like PvP then daoc is the game for you as well. There has been a lot said about the imbalancement in the game (on american servers Albs are supposed to rule having 3/4 of the relics); thing is that on the European servers Hibs and Mids rule so far although Albs are superiour in numbers. We are still waiting for Frontiers of course so a few things could change but wait and see. What I like about the RvR is the "us" against the rest feeling that it creates. You don't just go and kill other players; it's realm against realm. 3 Realms against one another so if two realms are having a hughe clash it could well be possible that the third realm gets the mainprice (keeps or relics). You never know what is coming......
This is my personal opinion and I am sure that some people agree and disagree. My advice to you is to try it out and see for yourself.
Darkage of Camelot | Since Day 1 |
Seabasz 50 Hero | Lancelot / Hib
Seabas 50 Enchanter | Lancelot / Hib
Vlyden 50 Bezerker | Guinevere / Mid
Vlyden 50 Armsman | Bors / Alb
Hellzpyro 40 Wizard | Merlin / Alb
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Darkage of Camelot
Seabasz 50 Hero | Lancelot / Hib
Seabas 50 Enchanter | Lancelot / Hib
Vlyden 50 Bezerker | Guinevere / Mid
Vydien 50 Armsman | Bors / Alb
Hellzpyro 50 Wizard | Merlin / Alb
Oceany 45 BM | Mordred / Mid
Seabasy 48 Bard | Mordred / Hib
Why ask why:)
I see DaoC as something everyone should have played at least once. They have done so many right things its incredible in a single game, and its the only game where NO ONE have a problem with PvP. I am not one of the loyal fan base, I do not play it currently, but I see DaoC as one of the few games the last years that have had something to teach other game developers. As an example it is a great one.
If you are not interested in game development and history. yes its worth it as a few weeks of casual entertainment as well.
Only game I wait for right now: Imperator.
Go Mythic!
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Is Dark Age of Camelot worth it?
I'll just give you some subjective facts/opinions and let you decide:
Aging server population, low-end game is all but dead (however low-end game was fantastic at first release).
Dungeons are limited in imagination, some realms use same dungeon layout from other realms.
Character customization is out-dated.
Character stats were not well thought out. You have 8 stats and likely half will be useless to whatever character you make.
Character stat points are spendable too soon. They needed to hold this back to level 5 (when you choose your class).
Weapon and armor graphics are best I've seen in a game that's been released.
Controls are workable and customizable. Gameplay is fast and fluid, usually you use a behind-the-character 3D view as the first person view doesn't even show you your arms and is disorienting in my opinion
Spell system is sleek and simple, but lacks the semi-useful utility spells that make other games' (EQ) spell systems so interesting.
P vs P in the form of realm vs realm had very limited interest to me. Some like it, but I find it chaotic and it grew old for me very quickly. I did okay in it, I kicked butt most of the time, I just found it the same as playing tag, running around in circles.
P vs E world is now much neglected, since most folks are very high level, but I thought it was fairly well done. Maybe the world was a bit small.
A better model for this game might have been to enable realm to realm travel for all folks, but have the P vs P more of an NPC faction thing. (You can go to another realm, but the NPC's will smack you down if you don't belong there.)
I don't know where this game will be when EQ2 and WOW launch. Yes, other games have survived the introduction of new games on the market, but EQ2 will be a giant.
I have been playing daoc for 2 years now and yes I will admit that it sucks to be a new player. DAOC's low level game can still be fun. they now have RvR battlegrounds for all levels. DAOC is a social game, if you want to "solo" don't play a mmorpg because thats pointless. Find yourself a good guild and join them, they can help you with anything you might need (don't beg...) If your not into RvR you can go to Gaheris where you can go to all realms for PvE.
-Selek
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So if you dont want to RVR you have to go to gaheris? that sucks, thats gunna get pretty crowded. and RVR in BG as end game, see, just as I was saying. this game is broken...to play a level 24 or 34 char as your end game when your supposed to be 50 and RVRing in FN. Why you dont want to go to NF, why you stay in BG. Because NF sucks....
If you try to level on Merlin or Guin or Percival, you wont find any lowbies to group with till 20+. Thats not very noob friendly if you ask me. Why should all nopob have to go to gaheris to find a group. Cause DAoC sucks....thats just the way it is. this is an elitist game by nature, the old established players are not going to help the noobs level. it just does not happen. there maybe examples, but they are the exception, not the rule. This game has run its course and unless your an old established player, you really cant enjoy this game to its fullest, as it was 2 years ago - Mythic has made a bridge you cant cross, between the noob and established player base.
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Darkage of Camelot | Since Day 1 |
Seabasz 50 Hero | Lancelot / Hib
Seabas 50 Enchanter | Lancelot / Hib
Vlyden 50 Bezerker | Guinevere / Mid
Vlyden 50 Armsman | Bors / Alb
Hellzpyro 40 Wizard | Merlin / Alb
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Darkage of Camelot
Seabasz 50 Hero | Lancelot / Hib
Seabas 50 Enchanter | Lancelot / Hib
Vlyden 50 Bezerker | Guinevere / Mid
Vydien 50 Armsman | Bors / Alb
Hellzpyro 50 Wizard | Merlin / Alb
Oceany 45 BM | Mordred / Mid
Seabasy 48 Bard | Mordred / Hib
-=BuKsHoT=-
Notice how everyone saying its a great game and they would do it again "have been playing forever" and already have alot of friends online? This means they have lvl 50 characters and can actually enjoy what the game is about.
The question is should he buy the game NOW. Without any level 50s. Emphatically the answer is NO! Unless you like Camping the same freaking spawn for hours and hours till you level, then running around till you find the next spawn that suits your level and doing it again for hours and hours till you level then doing it again for hours and hours till you level thendoing it again for hours and hours till you level thendoing it again for hours and hours till you level thendoing it again for hours and hours till you level thendoing it again for hours and hours till you level thendoing it again for hours and hours till you level thendoing it again for hours and hours till you level thendoing it again for hours and hours till you level thendoing it again for hours and hours till you level thendoing it again for hours and hours till you level...
...until you finally cancel and wish you hadn't wasted your money.