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should of done it like this
ASmith84
Member Posts: 979
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/flash/flash-cinematic.html
but wait isnt this the game? quite the contrary, look at this.
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/flash/2008_03_VotM.html
look familiar? maybe this will refresh your memory.
Now lets compare. The first video looks awesome. It was dark and gloomy. It got very violent where you could even see blood. Then you see the next video. Less intense, no blood just some red lines come up, and cartoony. Then the last video what do you see? The same thing.
I am not trying to say warhammer sucks or anything. All i want is it to look like the first video, more dark and violent like warhammer should be.
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/played: EQ, EQ II, DAoC, WoW, LoTRO, AoC, CoH/CoV, WAR, Aion, Tera, Wildstar and many others that don't merit listing
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ok ASSmith84 you are comparing a STRATEGY game to a MASSIVE ONLINE ROLEPLAYING GAME and for your info if you want a warhammer fantasy strategy game for the pc, there is Mark of Chaos, and it's excellent. WOW only added a friendly user interface to the mmo genere NOTHING MORE, so stop with this "wow clone" stuff cause its a very shallow argument.
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Sorry, not really a fan of 40k.
a MMO of the 40k univer is being made(which i much prefer) but what i am mostly dissapointed in is that its a MMORPG, you know how bad ass if you took that world spliced it with planetside type gameplay, you would have a bad ass MMOFPS controling a defiler
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S
i call it a wow clone cause it LOOKS like wow. the graphics are only slightly improved. it plays the same way you click and then you watch your guy do the move while hoping around like little bunnies.
...and thats how every MMO in existence works too, beside that really awful one recently!
Well, the look is not gonna change so for you it's a WoW clone. Don't play the game, don't even try it out to see if you're right or wrong, because you already know you're right!
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
LOL
i have more respect for conan because they tried something different. Instead of click and watch they wanted you to actually feel like your contributing to the fight by choosing which direction you swing at. Also with spellweaving how doing linking spells up can create more powerful spells. Warhammer to me just said hey see this game warcraft? lets look exactly like it and improve on it without adding anything new to the genre. Oh yea lets be more about pvp to. Whats new in it besides collision detection? i have nothing wrong with the game its just that in order to do better you have to implement new ideas to the genre. otherwise people will still be crying about grinding and the same ol crap we all love to hear.
yea i heard about the tier stuff and how the better your side does it can take over more and raid the capital of the other side or whatever. that is cool the thing is it will be the same thing over and over again once you think about it.
That's fine that you have respect for AoC. But frankly for me, I don't care what they add or don't add to the genre. I agree moving forward is good, but Mythic is focused on delivering a game the way they want to. I will play if it's fun and I will play until it's no longer fun. Stop overthinking things and only looking, not playing.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
I feel Warhammer 40k makes a good setting for an RTS.
Warhammer seems good for an RPG.
D&D Home Page - What Class Are You? - Build A Character - D&D Compendium
uggggh...
1) There is already a Warhammer 40K MMO in the works
2) Even though it is unique it will be called a Starcraft Clone
3) Just don't play the damned game if you don't like it.
4) Just STOP IT http://youtube.com/watch?v=BYLMTvxOaeE
STOP WHINING!
I would have respect for AoC if the game came out complete...But guess what it DID NOT come out complete and promise were made and broken and Censorship of their fourm is really Not a Good sign...
too many CON out weigh the OMGAWESOME graphics and the annoying combat system and if you think that AoC's combat system is NEW then you are right ...if you think it is more innovative then you are WRONG the combat system makes you aim attack and mash buttons all the "normal" system does is does this for the player..and not give out Special attack with out having the directional attacks required for it (this made me log off on the spot and tell my friend "i WILL NEVER buy this game"
+ hving the game full of gankers and un blanced classes (not saying WAR will be blanced but if this si their only problem i will get over it and they will fix it as they have done so long with DAoC...
and just to finish off this rant i went to best buy the other day to pick up a second pre order for my friends and saw 30+ copies of AoC stacking up on the shelf...and NOT ONE (pre-order mind you) for WAR.
AoC did not bring anything that new into this gaming world...WAR has done many things (not new but imporved a lot on) as well as the TOK which is imporved the LOTRO deed system..but added so many new things that i will call it NEW....
/end rant
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So you admit that Warhammer is improving on current mmo systems and instead of focusing on PvE they are focusing on PvP. Guess what? THAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT. If something is different it cannot be a clone. Owning your own argument ftw! When September comes around make sure you ask your teacher about logic and how to apply it. Every car has 4 wheels, an engine, steering wheel, gas pedal, and breaks by your logic the fact that they come in different shapes, sizes, styles, and power output doesn't matter because they are all clones.
So you can chain different spells in Conan to create more powerful spells? Well in Warhammer you can use abilities that change based on previous abilities you use. Believe the video they released aobut the swordmaster has this in it. If you put up your debuff then use a certain attack it can change the damage of that attack from say melee to spell damage. Thus making it a tactical ability since if you are fighting another tank melee might not be the best attack but magic will eat through them. DPS casters have the ability to use certain spells that increase their damage/crit at the risk of blowing themselves up. Combo attacks are not that new.
As far as your last argument. CS has been the same for years yet people still play it. Why? The maps might be the same but every game plays out differently. PvP is never static. City raids won't happen every day and you certainly won't take the city every time you try. Go take some music lessons and figure out why there are so few notes but millions of different songs.
So you admit that Warhammer is improving on current mmo systems and instead of focusing on PvE they are focusing on PvP. Guess what? THAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT. If something is different it cannot be a clone. Owning your own argument ftw! When September comes around make sure you ask your teacher about logic and how to apply it. Every car has 4 wheels, an engine, steering wheel, gas pedal, and breaks by your logic the fact that they come in different shapes, sizes, styles, and power output doesn't matter because they are all clones.
So you can chain different spells in Conan to create more powerful spells? Well in Warhammer you can use abilities that change based on previous abilities you use. Believe the video they released aobut the swordmaster has this in it. If you put up your debuff then use a certain attack it can change the damage of that attack from say melee to spell damage. Thus making it a tactical ability since if you are fighting another tank melee might not be the best attack but magic will eat through them. DPS casters have the ability to use certain spells that increase their damage/crit at the risk of blowing themselves up. Combo attacks are not that new.
As far as your last argument. CS has been the same for years yet people still play it. Why? The maps might be the same but every game plays out differently. PvP is never static. City raids won't happen every day and you certainly won't take the city every time you try. Go take some music lessons and figure out why there are so few notes but millions of different songs.
/agreed...Nice Post my friend
im arguing that the 40k world should be an mmo. i dont know why you all are arguing that warhammer is not a wow clone cause i frankly dont care. if it makes you all feel better i wont call it a clone anymore. i just called it a clone cause it looks like it but if you all are going to whine about it ill stop.
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Wait about 3 years and you'll see it. They will probably announce it before 3 years though but that's when I bet it'll launch.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Guess what ASSmith, this argument just brought up is a CLONE of so many others we are bored to tears of hearing people whining about OUR game. So we have as much RIGHT as yourself to whine if we wish to. Nuff said
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Last I heard there would be no bunny hopping, if you jumped while in combat it would put a cooldown on your abilities; someone correct me if I'm mistaken.
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Originally posted by javac
well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
i despise wow. i think it is a waste of your life playing it. but i do not like to talk down on games this is why i dont say anything about wow. now before you argue on how im doing that to warhammer all im saying is that it looks like wow and wish it would put in new ideas in the genre. thats all im saying.
at least you wont hop around like bunnies but its still the click and watch. conan you can sidestep for a dodge bonus i think. its something new give it a break. at least they are trying.
Lol, so a sidestep for a dodge bonus is revolutionary and all the new stuff WAR brings to the table like: dynamic world, capital sieging, city levels, keep sieges, leveling guilds, guild banners, tome of knowledge, 2-color armor dyeing, anti-ganking mechanics, recipe-less crafting, guild alliance system, public quests, trophies, unlockable tactics and skills etc etc etc is unimportant? You've got your priorities all mixed up I must say.
Lol, AoC's greatest claim at originality is that in order to activate a skill you have to press 3+ buttons in sequence rather than just one. Riveting. Fascinating. The level of originality and ingenuity leaves me speechless there.