Mortal Online My first thought was, WOW. After checking it out I feel there is something fishy, darkfall-like about it. I am not convinced this is a real mmo under development. Just my opinion though. I am still following it for a little bit. http://www.mortalonline.com/
what is fishy about mortal? people seem to thinks it's vaporware just because it has similar features to darkfall. reposting this here to "convince" you that it is a real mmo that is in development.
1) they are using unreal engine 3. epic games doesn't license their products to companies that are not well funded as it would look bad on their engine if they didn't make a quality game.
here's a quote from mark rein, vice president of epic games.
“We're excited that new developers like Star Vault, who have such great potential, are recognizing the value of licensing Unreal Engine 3. We know this is the way they can realize their creative ambitions quickly and deliver great games to market. Some of the most significant companies in the game business have licensed Unreal Engine 3 to build their MMO games and Star Vault has now joined an illustrious group. We'll be watching their progress with great interest."
2) starvault is listed on the swedish stock exchange.
A year or maybe 2 ago I thought the folks behind Eve Online got the IP from WhiteWolf Studios to make an MMO based on World of Darkness. Any one heard anything new about this at all?
Nothing new so far. Seems to be no further than "discussions" right now.
Your only talking about graphics, you say earth rise looks great and that's probably because you looked at the graphics, then you say about fallen earth that its cheesy, but it is actually also a sandbox game but you say in other words that it probably sucks. Then you consider mortal online not an mmorpg???
Sorry but may i advise you to read the FAQS of those mmo's and do some reading on some sites. I also like to ask you a question.
Are you a graphic whore? No offense, but to me, it seems you look way to much to the graphics from the sound of it . You do talk like that!
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playing: EVE ONLINE Waiting for Earthrise, FE, bioware mmo, guild wars 2, DFO , mortal online , the chronicles of spellborn
Thanks for input guys. Keep them coming. I am updating threads now.
Just a few comments:
1. EVE pvp is awesome. I think JGE is a light version. But on the other hand it seems more accessible. I might check it out just for that. EVE is really hard to get into and I tried several times but I always end up just grinding skills while offline.
2. Mortal Online. I really, really want to believe in this. But some alarm clock is ringing in my head and I usually have a good intuition. Sorry, that is just how I see it. I will keep on following it and if they start to release real info, I will update this thread. But I need more than text updates. If nothing happens over the next six months I won't trust them.
3. To the guy calling me a graphics whore, then the answer is, no I am not. If anything I am a sandbox fan.
4. Fallen Earth. I haven't checked it out much but the video on the site looks really horrible, like first generation Rainbox Six game. It looks totally old. Graphics and art direction is awful. However the gameplay and sandbox interest me. So I will give a few more looks and another chance.
op, nice work but there is one little problem. Your only talking about graphics, you say earth rise looks great and that's probably because you looked at the graphics, then you say about fallen earth that its cheesy, but it is actually also a sandbox game but you say in other words that it probably sucks. Then you consider mortal online not an mmorpg???
Sorry but may i advise you to read the FAQS of those mmo's and do some reading on some sites. I also like to ask you a question. Are you a graphic whore? No offense, but to me, it seems you look way to much to the graphics from the sound of it . You do talk like that!
dude you really need to scroll up and look, I never talked about Earthrise graphics.
It would also be cool if you added the estimated release dates where applicable to the games.
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Sorry Shohadaku guess my post was not very clear. I was not implying that Eve was not pvp just that the game mechanics are not the same. Also I was not attacking Eve or saying it has no depth. Was just saying the two games handle similar subjects in different manners.
One of the biggest differences would be just controlling your ship. In JGE you can control your ship with a joystick looking out in first person. Can also use a mouse of course.
Just a little update on my thoughts. My views listed above are just my views.
I can't go into comprehensive analysis of each mmo and what they compare to or how they are, most of them are just a few screenies or little info. And also even if I did go into lengthy detail, lots of people would still find reasons to disagree.
I could wipe my personal point of view, but this way it serves more as a guide. So I will let it stand. It has take some time to compile this list, keeping links about every mmo rumour I heard about.
I didnt see apb.com I would remove your opinions and just make it a list...let people make up there own minds..
Also huxley isn't grindy at all (yet) and it looks better and runs better than aoc, oh ya and combat is better..... How can you dis a mmofps huxley cause u didnt like a mmorpg sun? They also made mu so thats 3 totally different games... (i didnt even play sun and i can tell you i dont like it)
What is Huxley but counterstrike with a monthly fee?
Fallen Earth was the one game I was excited about. IDK which videos you have seen but the ones I saw wern't cheezy at all.. But I guess everyone has different tastes.
The game sounds awesome, having to craft your own ammo and building vehicles from scraps you find. Being able to take clothes from corpses and scavenge other things from them also. The character customization looked pretty sweet too, being able to have a hairy avatar and being able to roll up pant legs when you feel like going gangsta or button or unbutton your shirt. Getting tattoos at tattoo parlors. Oh and we can't forget about zombies thats what got me interested.
Its not all first person you can do 3rd person shooter or have melee weapons too. Plus the main npc actually talk to you about missions and what not so you don't have to read all the time. I cant remember how much but It was a decent amount.Oh and its skill based, although their are lvls but what level your character is dosent say how powerfully they really are.
Well I'll look into some of that other stuff you posted but I advise you look at more videos and read the forums. You have to dig to find some stuff for this game, I found some really cool videos of the developers running around the begining area.
Not to argue about it, but the graphics in the latest video look like something early 1990s. Not much better than SWG. I don't think it is appropriate for 2008-2009. Now if the gameplay is really good, I don't personally mind so much (example: I prefer WAR over AoC any day). But one could fear the gameplay might suffer. When I look at people shooting critters, the way they move, everything from rifle movement, the animations of the avatars, I feel I am look at the first Rainbow Six game (which I love, but wouldn't want to see as mmo engine).
Kind of thought Fallen Earth looked rather cheesy myself...I haven't looked at it in over a year,at that time I thought it looked hopeful. But really not impressed with the art direction.
Originally posted by Draccan Citadel of Sorcery Can hardly make it past the frontpage. The webdesign is awful. When a game can't make a proper website I have no belief in their creative ability to make an mmo. Also very generic fantasy. http://www.citadelofsorcery.com
Several things:
1) Nice to know you actually take longer than ten seconds when you look into writing your opinion. Pathetic, really, just remove your opinions if you won't actually put time into what you post.
2) Talk about a knee jerk reaction, eh? First off, if you actually looked into the game a bit, you would realize they are working on a new site, but it was one of their lower priorities. Secondly, what the hell does web design and game design have to do with eachother? They are a little alike, but that is it. Just because none of the team are web designers doesn't mean they arre not serious or cannot make an MMO.
3) Generic fantasy? Look into the game before you post.
You've lost all of your credibility in this thread, seriously. You do not even take the time to look into games you are talking about, yet you adctually expect people to take your opinion and posts seriously?
The next time you post something like this, post more than biased knee jerk reactions. You may as well delete all your opinions, since you clearly didn't put time into them. kthxbye
...I need to calm down a bit............
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No its in open beta huxley.co.kr gotta love the nda people......sigh
I asked a simple question, since posting anything under NDA is prohibited here, and I am not familiar with Huxleys status. Sorry if I bothered you so much.
fallen earth is going through a graphics revamp... they recently took down their screenshot gallery and expect to have stuff up soon. FE is the closest thing to SWG that I've seen and the only game I've wanted to play since then.
yeah for the first time in a long time a dev team put graphics second to gameplay. they have spent their time quietly fleshing the game out and getting mechanics right.
1.) Where did ANYONE from Bioware say they're MMO was going to be WoW-cloned? They have said repeatedly it will be a STORY-DRIVEN MMO, and not like anything currently on the market... YOU are the one that injected the WoW-clone belief, not them.
2.) You don't seem to be a fan of Fallen Earth. That's fine, but you lost all or any credibility when you say the game looks cheesy and the graphics are poor. The graphics are fine, the game looks great with a sandbox appeal and skill system, AND FPS combat...
Sorry, your post isn't the least bit comprehensive or objective.
Fallen Earth and Bioware are probably the 2 MMO games that won't be like anything currently on the market and you bash both of them...
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what is fishy about mortal? people seem to thinks it's vaporware just because it has similar features to darkfall. reposting this here to "convince" you that it is a real mmo that is in development.
1) they are using unreal engine 3. epic games doesn't license their products to companies that are not well funded as it would look bad on their engine if they didn't make a quality game.
here's a quote from mark rein, vice president of epic games.
“We're excited that new developers like Star Vault, who have such great potential, are recognizing the value of licensing Unreal Engine 3. We know this is the way they can realize their creative ambitions quickly and deliver great games to market. Some of the most significant companies in the game business have licensed Unreal Engine 3 to build their MMO games and Star Vault has now joined an illustrious group. We'll be watching their progress with great interest."
2) starvault is listed on the swedish stock exchange.
http://www.aktietorget.se/Instrument.aspx?InstrumentID=SE0002149369
3) they will be at the leipzig games convention in august showing mortal online.
i just looked at their website, the game looks MOST impressive. i was seriously hooked just by that opening movie.
Nothing new so far. Seems to be no further than "discussions" right now.
Errrr Jumpgate is like Eve? In some ways maybe sorta, but since one is an RPG and the other is an actual flight simulator.
You gotta admit its apples and oranges. If a person thinks Jumpgate classic and Eve play the same way then they are literally certifiably insane.
Its like saying Master of Orion and Tie fighter play the same way because they sci-fi space games.
op, nice work but there is one little problem.
Your only talking about graphics, you say earth rise looks great and that's probably because you looked at the graphics, then you say about fallen earth that its cheesy, but it is actually also a sandbox game
but you say in other words that it probably sucks. Then you consider mortal online not an mmorpg???
Sorry but may i advise you to read the FAQS of those mmo's and do some reading on some sites. I also like to ask you a question.
Are you a graphic whore? No offense, but to me, it seems you look way to much to the graphics from the sound of it . You do talk like that!
-----------------------------------------------------------
the old days, the days of gold.
representer of euhporium, shade/amity , high member of the council.
played
UO,M59,EVE,L2,AC,GW,WOW,LOTRO,SWG pre cu/nge,COH/COV, VG,TR,L1, POTBS,Neocron 1 and 2, DAOC pre TOA and age of conan
playing: EVE ONLINE
Waiting for Earthrise, FE, bioware mmo, guild wars 2, DFO , mortal online , the chronicles of spellborn
Thanks for input guys. Keep them coming. I am updating threads now.
Just a few comments:
1. EVE pvp is awesome. I think JGE is a light version. But on the other hand it seems more accessible. I might check it out just for that. EVE is really hard to get into and I tried several times but I always end up just grinding skills while offline.
2. Mortal Online. I really, really want to believe in this. But some alarm clock is ringing in my head and I usually have a good intuition. Sorry, that is just how I see it. I will keep on following it and if they start to release real info, I will update this thread. But I need more than text updates. If nothing happens over the next six months I won't trust them.
3. To the guy calling me a graphics whore, then the answer is, no I am not. If anything I am a sandbox fan.
4. Fallen Earth. I haven't checked it out much but the video on the site looks really horrible, like first generation Rainbox Six game. It looks totally old. Graphics and art direction is awful. However the gameplay and sandbox interest me. So I will give a few more looks and another chance.
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dude you really need to scroll up and look, I never talked about Earthrise graphics.
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It would also be cool if you added the estimated release dates where applicable to the games.
Playing: Xsyon.
Played:
Tried: Ultima Online, Everquest 2, Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures, Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning, Flyff, Perfect World, Silkroad Online, EVE Online, Ryzom.
If you list them here or pm them I shall happily do so
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it really hard to aproximate MMO releases...they can be pushed back months or even years, so updating it with dates would prolly be a waste of time.
Thanks for updating the list with all of the feedback OP, I actually got to point someone to this thread when they asked me what MMOs are on the radar
~HappyGaming
Sorry Shohadaku guess my post was not very clear. I was not implying that Eve was not pvp just that the game mechanics are not the same. Also I was not attacking Eve or saying it has no depth. Was just saying the two games handle similar subjects in different manners.
One of the biggest differences would be just controlling your ship. In JGE you can control your ship with a joystick looking out in first person. Can also use a mouse of course.
Just a little update on my thoughts. My views listed above are just my views.
I can't go into comprehensive analysis of each mmo and what they compare to or how they are, most of them are just a few screenies or little info. And also even if I did go into lengthy detail, lots of people would still find reasons to disagree.
I could wipe my personal point of view, but this way it serves more as a guide. So I will let it stand. It has take some time to compile this list, keeping links about every mmo rumour I heard about.
Anyways, that's all I wanted to say...
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I didnt see apb.com
I would remove your opinions and just make it a list...let people make up there own minds..
Also huxley isn't grindy at all (yet) and it looks better and runs better than aoc, oh ya and combat is better.....
How can you dis a mmofps huxley cause u didnt like a mmorpg sun?
They also made mu so thats 3 totally different games...
(i didnt even play sun and i can tell you i dont like it)
Own, Mine, Defend, Attack, 24/7
What is Huxley but counterstrike with a monthly fee?
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You forgot Force of Arms
www.forceofarms.com/
Not to argue about it, but the graphics in the latest video look like something early 1990s. Not much better than SWG. I don't think it is appropriate for 2008-2009. Now if the gameplay is really good, I don't personally mind so much (example: I prefer WAR over AoC any day). But one could fear the gameplay might suffer. When I look at people shooting critters, the way they move, everything from rifle movement, the animations of the avatars, I feel I am look at the first Rainbow Six game (which I love, but wouldn't want to see as mmo engine).
Just my thoughts.
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Kind of thought Fallen Earth looked rather cheesy myself...I haven't looked at it in over a year,at that time I thought it looked hopeful. But really not impressed with the art direction.
What is aoc but guild wars with a fee?(or diablo2 or never something nights)
Nobody has stated that huxley will have a fee...
ijji.com has the rights to publish it in usa (none of there games have fees)
all i have to say is this....look at the beta screens on default resolution and settings
the game is fun...try it then you can complain...
Own, Mine, Defend, Attack, 24/7
What is aoc but guild wars with a fee?(or diablo2 or never something nights)
Nobody has stated that huxley will have a fee...
ijji.com has the rights to publish it in usa (none of there games have fees)
all i have to say is this....look at the beta screens on default resolution and settings
the game is fun...try it then you can complain...
Isn't Huxley in closed beta, under NDA? Are those screens supposed to be posted here?
No its in open beta huxley.co.kr
gotta love the nda people......sigh
Own, Mine, Defend, Attack, 24/7
Several things:
1) Nice to know you actually take longer than ten seconds when you look into writing your opinion. Pathetic, really, just remove your opinions if you won't actually put time into what you post.
2) Talk about a knee jerk reaction, eh? First off, if you actually looked into the game a bit, you would realize they are working on a new site, but it was one of their lower priorities. Secondly, what the hell does web design and game design have to do with eachother? They are a little alike, but that is it. Just because none of the team are web designers doesn't mean they arre not serious or cannot make an MMO.
3) Generic fantasy? Look into the game before you post.
You've lost all of your credibility in this thread, seriously. You do not even take the time to look into games you are talking about, yet you adctually expect people to take your opinion and posts seriously?
The next time you post something like this, post more than biased knee jerk reactions. You may as well delete all your opinions, since you clearly didn't put time into them. kthxbye
...I need to calm down a bit............
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In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on Aug/13/08 - Rest In Peace; you will not be forgotten
I asked a simple question, since posting anything under NDA is prohibited here, and I am not familiar with Huxleys status. Sorry if I bothered you so much.
yeah for the first time in a long time a dev team put graphics second to gameplay. they have spent their time quietly fleshing the game out and getting mechanics right.
To the OP...
1.) Where did ANYONE from Bioware say they're MMO was going to be WoW-cloned? They have said repeatedly it will be a STORY-DRIVEN MMO, and not like anything currently on the market... YOU are the one that injected the WoW-clone belief, not them.
2.) You don't seem to be a fan of Fallen Earth. That's fine, but you lost all or any credibility when you say the game looks cheesy and the graphics are poor. The graphics are fine, the game looks great with a sandbox appeal and skill system, AND FPS combat...
Sorry, your post isn't the least bit comprehensive or objective.
Fallen Earth and Bioware are probably the 2 MMO games that won't be like anything currently on the market and you bash both of them...