The servers are dead, everyone knows it. Obraik is PAID to tell you they aren't... Reliable source there.
ROFL made my day! thanks!
/tinfoilhat
I doubt he is paid, but the dude is the biggest fanboi since Wepps. SOE can do no wrong in his book. It's almost as sad as that one guy in Austin who still swears Brad is going to turn Vanguard around. You just watch.
Umm this post was my opinion and it was about my 3 days back into swg,NOT about Obraik or if hes a paid SOE employee or not. I will be glad to post some screenies of the players I am seeing in the game give me a couple days to gather some up. This post was not to give praise to SOE it was for the players out there that are sick of wow or any other mmo that might be thinking about trying or returning to the game. Like I said the interface still sucks ,but the over all game is not bad at all right now and the combat looks pretty good and with melee animations back in place its fun to see in combat. I am currently playing this and EQ2 in the process of deciding on my next game to play until Ryzom or Warhammer releases:P
The servers are dead, everyone knows it. Obraik is PAID to tell you they aren't... Reliable source there.
ROFL made my day! thanks!
/tinfoilhat
I doubt he is paid, but the dude is the biggest fanboi since Wepps. SOE can do no wrong in his book. It's almost as sad as that one guy in Austin who still swears Brad is going to turn Vanguard around. You just watch.
Umm this post was my opinion and it was about my 3 days back into swg,NOT about Obraik or if hes a paid SOE employee or not. I will be glad to post some screenies of the players I am seeing in the game give me a couple days to gather some up. This post was not to give praise to SOE it was for the players out there that are sick of wow or any other mmo that might be thinking about trying or returning to the game. Like I said the interface still sucks ,but the over all game is not bad at all right now and the combat looks pretty good and with melee animations back in place its fun to see in combat. I am currently playing this and EQ2 in the process of deciding on my next game to play until Ryzom or Warhammer releases:P
Personally, I am going back to Ryzom. I am sick of Tabula rasa after a month, I mean not disgusted, just tired of it. More socialization and it would be a great game.
Warhammer is going to suck. Play WoW, move on to LoTRO and then play AoC, and you will know exactly what to expect from war. Anyone stating differently is pulling your chain.
And to sum it up, like wepps, Obraik is an unpaid tool (unlike tuel).
I am glad you are having fun in SWG. Let me know how long it takes you to grind out those 58 buffs you need for effective PvP.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Now my only problem was the fact that game would crash about every 30-40mins. I tried to get tech help but no one from SOE got back to me before the 14 days ran out. At the time all the drivers and such were up to date and had no issues with any other games. So I figured maybe it was just this being an old game having issues with newer software and hardware.
Is the game stable for everyone or is crashing fairly common?
Bloodfin stats from last Friday for GCW officers, remember that the vast majority of players on a server are not ranked GCW officers, and if you don't log in at least every 14 days you fall off the chart as well (think vacation time). So 18,505 pvp kills during the week, it would seem to me that there are people in good numbers playing on Bloodfin.
Originally posted by Obraik Originally posted by AveBethos Originally posted by Gutboy Would you please refrain from spreading lies please? He is not paid he is a player like I am, SOE does not have an office in New Zealand where he is from. I guess it's hard to think that someone who enjoys the game might comment positive things about a game he enjoys playing with friends.
Gutboy, it's 2008. SOE doesn't need an office in New Zealand to employ Obraik. How do you know he isn't a paid employee? How does anyone know that? He sure acts like one. He blindly ignores any fault in SWG, and there's a lot of fault. You don't know anymore about Obraik than anyone else. SOE could very easily offer him free game time to viral market on their behalf. Read his posts, they are worded like PR statements and only post this game and SOE in a positive manner. I really could care less who he works for, all I ask from the OP is to offer up some proof of the "tons" of players on Bloodfin... He wants all of us to go out and subscribe and spend money on this game, so offer up some evidence, if not proof, of his accuracy. Because I was on Bloodfin last month and it was nearly impossible to find ANYONE outside of the 60 or so in Mos Eisley. So I know for a fact he is lying.
So what do we call you then? Since I supposedly work for SOE because I support the game, who should I assume you get paid by since you constantly bash the game? The difference is that yo defend people and actions that are and were unethical -- he attacks people and actions that are and were unethical -- therefore it is far more more likely that YOU get paid to defend bad guys, because it boggles the mind that someone would DEFEND bad guys and bad actions for free. Your position, whereas I do believe it is honestly yours, completely astounds me. I haven't a clue as to how a human being could do what you do and NOT get paid. It does seem that is the case -- however bizarre it may be.
It is far more likely that someone would bash bad guys and bad actions for free. That's what people do when they feel they or others have been wronged, they try and fight it.
Would you please refrain from spreading lies please? He is not paid he is a player like I am, SOE does not have an office in New Zealand where he is from. I guess it's hard to think that someone who enjoys the game might comment positive things about a game he enjoys playing with friends.
Gutboy, it's 2008. SOE doesn't need an office in New Zealand to employ Obraik. How do you know he isn't a paid employee? How does anyone know that? He sure acts like one. He blindly ignores any fault in SWG, and there's a lot of fault.
You don't know anymore about Obraik than anyone else. SOE could very easily offer him free game time to viral market on their behalf. Read his posts, they are worded like PR statements and only post this game and SOE in a positive manner.
I really could care less who he works for, all I ask from the OP is to offer up some proof of the "tons" of players on Bloodfin... He wants all of us to go out and subscribe and spend money on this game, so offer up some evidence, if not proof, of his accuracy.
Because I was on Bloodfin last month and it was nearly impossible to find ANYONE outside of the 60 or so in Mos Eisley. So I know for a fact he is lying.
So what do we call you then? Since I supposedly work for SOE because I support the game, who should I assume you get paid by since you constantly bash the game?
The difference is that yo defend people and actions that are and were unethical -- he attacks people and actions that are and were unethical -- therefore it is far more more likely that YOU get paid to defend bad guys, because it boggles the mind that someone would DEFEND bad guys and bad actions for free. Your position, whereas I do believe it is honestly yours, completely astounds me. I haven't a clue as to how a human being could do what you do and NOT get paid. It does seem that is the case -- however bizarre it may be.
It is far more likely that someone would bash bad guys and bad actions for free. That's what people do when they feel they or others have been wronged, they try and fight it.
"bad guys" because they made a change that you don't like to game? I don't really think you can class someone as "bad" based on that.
I support the game because I enjoy it and provides fun to myself and my friends. If I enjoy/like something then I generally like to share that experience. Good experiences with anything are under-represented IMO. Heh, maybe that's why the NGE happened in the end
Bloodfin stats from last Friday for GCW officers, remember that the vast majority of players on a server are not ranked GCW officers, and if you don't log in at least every 14 days you fall off the chart as well (think vacation time). So 18,505 pvp kills during the week, it would seem to me that there are people in good numbers playing on Bloodfin. _________________________________________________________________________________ 667 of 8436 Officers shown (7.9%). The Officers shown have all in all 1606186 PvP Kills (2408 average). Last week the Officers shown gained all in all 18505 PvP Kills (27 average). There were 74 promotions, 44 demotions and 23 respecs (Full Respec-Stats). Of the Officers shown there are
Originally posted by Obraik Originally posted by Fishermage
Originally posted by Obraik
Originally posted by AveBethos
Originally posted by Gutboy
Would you please refrain from spreading lies please? He is not paid he is a player like I am, SOE does not have an office in New Zealand where he is from. I guess it's hard to think that someone who enjoys the game might comment positive things about a game he enjoys playing with friends.
Gutboy, it's 2008. SOE doesn't need an office in New Zealand to employ Obraik. How do you know he isn't a paid employee? How does anyone know that? He sure acts like one. He blindly ignores any fault in SWG, and there's a lot of fault. You don't know anymore about Obraik than anyone else. SOE could very easily offer him free game time to viral market on their behalf. Read his posts, they are worded like PR statements and only post this game and SOE in a positive manner. I really could care less who he works for, all I ask from the OP is to offer up some proof of the "tons" of players on Bloodfin... He wants all of us to go out and subscribe and spend money on this game, so offer up some evidence, if not proof, of his accuracy. Because I was on Bloodfin last month and it was nearly impossible to find ANYONE outside of the 60 or so in Mos Eisley. So I know for a fact he is lying.
So what do we call you then? Since I supposedly work for SOE because I support the game, who should I assume you get paid by since you constantly bash the game?
The difference is that yo defend people and actions that are and were unethical -- he attacks people and actions that are and were unethical -- therefore it is far more more likely that YOU get paid to defend bad guys, because it boggles the mind that someone would DEFEND bad guys and bad actions for free. Your position, whereas I do believe it is honestly yours, completely astounds me. I haven't a clue as to how a human being could do what you do and NOT get paid. It does seem that is the case -- however bizarre it may be.
It is far more likely that someone would bash bad guys and bad actions for free. That's what people do when they feel they or others have been wronged, they try and fight it.
"bad guys" because they made a change that you don't like to game? I don't really think you can class someone as "bad" based on that.
I support the game because I enjoy it and provides fun to myself and my friends. If I enjoy/like something then I generally like to share that experience. Good experiences with anything are under-represented IMO. Heh, maybe that's why the NGE happened in the end No, bad guys because they knowingly lied to their customers. The NGE was under development WHILE they were discussing upcoming features that they KNEW they were never going to deliver on. That certainly makes them bad guys.
Your response pretty much provs my point. You KNOW the issue, know why they are bad guys, know why what they did was wrong, and yet you chose to willfully mischaracterize the issue in your response, Why someone would willingly do so without being paid for it is truly bizarre.
Star Wars still have more entertaining RPG's then anyone else. I mean yea SWG kinda went downhill after the Combat Update (When I stopped playing) but I have been quite entertained by other games. NGE did a bad thing to a great thing by releasing that patch I bet thy would take it back if they could. Although I hear that the guys at BioWare are in productiong of KoToR III (Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic III) and that this is gonna span out to an MMO atmosphere. I'd buy it whether it was such or not because KoTor is the top notch of RPG's next to the Elder Scrolls series.
"bad guys" because they made a change that you don't like to game? I don't really think you can class someone as "bad" based on that.
Bad guys because they sold an expansion and advertised items that they knew were going to be useless in that expansion. But they also refunded those expansions.
Bad guys because they continued to accept quarterly and yearly renewals knowing that they were making huge changes to the game. Can't blame a company for how it's customers spend their money.
Bad guys because it took reports to the BBB and states AG offices to get them to offer refunds for the expansion. Really and you got this information how?
Bad guys because they just banned people instead of answering questions about the NGE on the forums. If that's the case every mmo is run by "bad guys" because this happens in everyone of them.
Bad guys because they continue to lie to current players about how bad the population is.
They don't announce their number of players in the first place.
SWG is no longer a good game , I can't really argue that point . However , evil has nothing to do with it . Maybe you could characterize them as morons or idiots , But evil or bad is a long shot . In the end it boils down to capitalism and the ideas that come along with it . They thought they could make more money , They were wrong .There's not much more to it .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by trueswgvet Originally posted by Obraik
"bad guys" because they made a change that you don't like to game? I don't really think you can class someone as "bad" based on that.
Bad guys because they sold an expansion and advertised items that they knew were going to be useless in that expansion. But they also refunded those expansions. Bad guys because they continued to accept quarterly and yearly renewals knowing that they were making huge changes to the game. Can't blame a company for how it's customers spend their money. Bad guys because it took reports to the BBB and states AG offices to get them to offer refunds for the expansion. Really and you got this information how? Bad guys because they just banned people instead of answering questions about the NGE on the forums. If that's the case every mmo is run by "bad guys" because this happens in everyone of them. Bad guys because they continue to lie to current players about how bad the population is. They don't announce their number of players in the first place.
SWG is no longer a good game , I can't really argue that point . However , evil has nothing to do with it . Maybe you could characterize them as morons or idiots , But evil or bad is a long shot . In the end it boils down to capitalism and the ideas that come along with it . They thought they could make more money , They were wrong .There's not much more to it .
Willfully and knowingly misleading people is wrong. Doing so makes you a bad guy.
Offering a refund doesn't make the good guys, it proves in fact that they were bad guys and they knew it.
The NGE was in production for 2-3 months, during that time, they knowingly misled their customers by telling them that Ranger was going to be revamped. They stated this all the time knowing the class was going to be removed.
Bloodfin stats from last Friday for GCW officers, remember that the vast majority of players on a server are not ranked GCW officers, and if you don't log in at least every 14 days you fall off the chart as well (think vacation time). So 18,505 pvp kills during the week, it would seem to me that there are people in good numbers playing on Bloodfin. _________________________________________________________________________________ 667 of 8436 Officers shown (7.9%). The Officers shown have all in all 1606186 PvP Kills (2408 average). Last week the Officers shown gained all in all 18505 PvP Kills (27 average). There were 74 promotions, 44 demotions and 23 respecs (Full Respec-Stats). Of the Officers shown there are
Bloodfin stats from last Friday for GCW officers, remember that the vast majority of players on a server are not ranked GCW officers, and if you don't log in at least every 14 days you fall off the chart as well (think vacation time). So 18,505 pvp kills during the week, it would seem to me that there are people in good numbers playing on Bloodfin. _________________________________________________________________________________ 667 of 8436 Officers shown (7.9%). The Officers shown have all in all 1606186 PvP Kills (2408 average). Last week the Officers shown gained all in all 18505 PvP Kills (27 average). There were 74 promotions, 44 demotions and 23 respecs (Full Respec-Stats). Of the Officers shown there are
Wow those numbers are pathetic. I can't believe you'd post them as proof of how well the game is doing.
What he doesnt mention is that the overall number of officers is down by over 500 from last month. Maybe they all went on vacation.
He also forgot to mention that 90% of those kills were done by people with multiple accounts killing alts in their house. I hope nobody looks at those stats and thinks pvp is actually flourishing in SWG.
Lmao. this is a pretty funny thread. Somebody played a serious Jedi Mindtrick on the OP. He still hasn't offered up any screenshots to support his claim...
I tried the trial about a year ago, made a jedi. Now my only problem was the fact that game would crash about every 30-40mins. I tried to get tech help but no one from SOE got back to me before the 14 days ran out. At the time all the drivers and such were up to date and had no issues with any other games. So I figured maybe it was just this being an old game having issues with newer software and hardware. Is the game stable for everyone or is crashing fairly common?
I have had 2 crashes since returning to retry this game . So far they have not been too bothersome,I have had alot less trouble with the rubberbanding issue this time around although my friend who lives in California has had alot of trouble with the rubberbanding bug. So far this game is just ok and somthing to do in the mean time as I too wait for Ryzom to return. The interface to me is the real CORE problem with swg. It my opinion now after a week into the game that if they ever really want this game to have a chance to fully recover from the damage they did is to rethink the combat interface its by far the worts I have ever encountered in any mmo. I do not understand why they just do not use the same Interface that EQ2 has its a 100 times better,with that being said the game is still entertaining me for now,although I find myself wanting to play EQ2 more we will see. I will make a post about my in game experience in detail after my 1 month subscription ends.
"bad guys" because they made a change that you don't like to game? I don't really think you can class someone as "bad" based on that.
Bad guys because they sold an expansion and advertised items that they knew were going to be useless in that expansion. But they also refunded those expansions.
Bad guys because they continued to accept quarterly and yearly renewals knowing that they were making huge changes to the game. Can't blame a company for how it's customers spend their money.
Bad guys because it took reports to the BBB and states AG offices to get them to offer refunds for the expansion. Really and you got this information how?
Bad guys because they just banned people instead of answering questions about the NGE on the forums. If that's the case every mmo is run by "bad guys" because this happens in everyone of them.
Bad guys because they continue to lie to current players about how bad the population is.
They don't announce their number of players in the first place.
SWG is no longer a good game , I can't really argue that point . However , evil has nothing to do with it . Maybe you could characterize them as morons or idiots , But evil or bad is a long shot . In the end it boils down to capitalism and the ideas that come along with it . They thought they could make more money , They were wrong .There's not much more to it .
Willfully and knowingly misleading people is wrong. Doing so makes you a bad guy.
Offering a refund doesn't make the good guys, it proves in fact that they were bad guys and they knew it.
The NGE was in production for 2-3 months, during that time, they knowingly misled their customers by telling them that Ranger was going to be revamped. They stated this all the time knowing the class was going to be removed.
That's not capitalism, that's fraud.
Ranger was revamped , Revamped to spy
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
"bad guys" because they made a change that you don't like to game? I don't really think you can class someone as "bad" based on that.
Bad guys because they sold an expansion and advertised items that they knew were going to be useless in that expansion.
Bad guys because they continued to accept quarterly and yearly renewals knowing that they were making huge changes to the game.
Bad guys because it took reports to the BBB and states AG offices to get them to offer refunds for the expansion.
Bad guys because they just banned people instead of answering questions about the NGE on the forums.
Bad guys because they continue to lie to current players about how bad the population is.
Can we get back to the posts topic and that is trying to make an opinion of what I am seeing in game right now? This thread is not here to bash SOE or any other gamers its simply here to express my right to an opinion of the experience I am having with swg as I wait for Ryzom:) Please if you want to make a reply or post stick with the topic. I would love to hear some opinions from other players who ar now trying the game out or who are currently playing it:P
"bad guys" because they made a change that you don't like to game? I don't really think you can class someone as "bad" based on that.
Bad guys because they sold an expansion and advertised items that they knew were going to be useless in that expansion.
Bad guys because they continued to accept quarterly and yearly renewals knowing that they were making huge changes to the game.
Bad guys because it took reports to the BBB and states AG offices to get them to offer refunds for the expansion.
Bad guys because they just banned people instead of answering questions about the NGE on the forums.
Bad guys because they continue to lie to current players about how bad the population is.
Can we get back to the posts topic and that is trying to make an opinion of what I am seeing in game right now? This thread is not here to bash SOE or any other gamers its simply here to express my right to an opinion of the experience I am having with swg as I wait for Ryzom:) Please if you want to make a reply or post stick with the topic. I would love to hear some opinions from other players who ar now trying the game out or who are currently playing it:P
the game is broken the devs them self have said it them self several times that they cant fix it either so why would anyone have a good experience playing this game?
Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by Fishermage
Originally posted by Malickiebloo
Originally posted by trueswgvet
Originally posted by Obraik"bad guys" because they made a change that you don't like to game? I don't really think you can class someone as "bad" based on that.
Bad guys because they sold an expansion and advertised items that they knew were going to be useless in that expansion. But they also refunded those expansions. Bad guys because they continued to accept quarterly and yearly renewals knowing that they were making huge changes to the game. Can't blame a company for how it's customers spend their money. Bad guys because it took reports to the BBB and states AG offices to get them to offer refunds for the expansion. Really and you got this information how? Bad guys because they just banned people instead of answering questions about the NGE on the forums. If that's the case every mmo is run by "bad guys" because this happens in everyone of them. Bad guys because they continue to lie to current players about how bad the population is. They don't announce their number of players in the first place. SWG is no longer a good game , I can't really argue that point . However , evil has nothing to do with it . Maybe you could characterize them as morons or idiots , But evil or bad is a long shot . In the end it boils down to capitalism and the ideas that come along with it . They thought they could make more money , They were wrong .There's not much more to it .
Willfully and knowingly misleading people is wrong. Doing so makes you a bad guy. Offering a refund doesn't make the good guys, it proves in fact that they were bad guys and they knew it. The NGE was in production for 2-3 months, during that time, they knowingly misled their customers by telling them that Ranger was going to be revamped. They stated this all the time knowing the class was going to be removed. That's not capitalism, that's fraud. Ranger was revamped , Revamped to spy Yes, which makes them bad guys who did a bad thing. Why do you feel the need to obfuscate that fact? That is even more odd than Obraik's defense of it. At least he LIKES the game. Unless of course you are just trollin. Of course you are.
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ROFL made my day! thanks!
/tinfoilhat
I doubt he is paid, but the dude is the biggest fanboi since Wepps. SOE can do no wrong in his book. It's almost as sad as that one guy in Austin who still swears Brad is going to turn Vanguard around. You just watch.
Umm this post was my opinion and it was about my 3 days back into swg,NOT about Obraik or if hes a paid SOE employee or not. I will be glad to post some screenies of the players I am seeing in the game give me a couple days to gather some up. This post was not to give praise to SOE it was for the players out there that are sick of wow or any other mmo that might be thinking about trying or returning to the game. Like I said the interface still sucks ,but the over all game is not bad at all right now and the combat looks pretty good and with melee animations back in place its fun to see in combat. I am currently playing this and EQ2 in the process of deciding on my next game to play until Ryzom or Warhammer releases:P
ROFL made my day! thanks!
/tinfoilhat
I doubt he is paid, but the dude is the biggest fanboi since Wepps. SOE can do no wrong in his book. It's almost as sad as that one guy in Austin who still swears Brad is going to turn Vanguard around. You just watch.
Umm this post was my opinion and it was about my 3 days back into swg,NOT about Obraik or if hes a paid SOE employee or not. I will be glad to post some screenies of the players I am seeing in the game give me a couple days to gather some up. This post was not to give praise to SOE it was for the players out there that are sick of wow or any other mmo that might be thinking about trying or returning to the game. Like I said the interface still sucks ,but the over all game is not bad at all right now and the combat looks pretty good and with melee animations back in place its fun to see in combat. I am currently playing this and EQ2 in the process of deciding on my next game to play until Ryzom or Warhammer releases:P
Personally, I am going back to Ryzom. I am sick of Tabula rasa after a month, I mean not disgusted, just tired of it. More socialization and it would be a great game.
Warhammer is going to suck. Play WoW, move on to LoTRO and then play AoC, and you will know exactly what to expect from war. Anyone stating differently is pulling your chain.
And to sum it up, like wepps, Obraik is an unpaid tool (unlike tuel).
I am glad you are having fun in SWG. Let me know how long it takes you to grind out those 58 buffs you need for effective PvP.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
I tried the trial about a year ago, made a jedi.
Now my only problem was the fact that game would crash about every 30-40mins. I tried to get tech help but no one from SOE got back to me before the 14 days ran out. At the time all the drivers and such were up to date and had no issues with any other games. So I figured maybe it was just this being an old game having issues with newer software and hardware.
Is the game stable for everyone or is crashing fairly common?
Bloodfin stats from last Friday for GCW officers, remember that the vast majority of players on a server are not ranked GCW officers, and if you don't log in at least every 14 days you fall off the chart as well (think vacation time). So 18,505 pvp kills during the week, it would seem to me that there are people in good numbers playing on Bloodfin.
_________________________________________________________________________________
667 of 8436 Officers shown (7.9%).
The Officers shown have all in all 1606186 PvP Kills (2408 average).
Last week the Officers shown gained all in all 18505 PvP Kills (27 average).
There were 74 promotions, 44 demotions and 23 respecs (Full Respec-Stats).
Of the Officers shown there are
89 Bounty Hunter (13.34%), 109 Commando (16.34%), 9 Entertainer (1.34%), 230 Jedi (34.48%), 101 Medic (15.14%), 60 Officer (8.99%), 20 Smuggler (2.99%), 44 Spy (6.59%), 5 Trader (0.74%),
356 Imperial (53.37%), 311 Rebel (46.62%),
101 Captain (15.14%), 71 Colonel (10.64%), 136 General (20.38%), 218 Lieutenant (32.68%), 71 Lt Colonel / Commander (10.64%), 70 Major (10.49%),
667 Bloodfin (100%),
Gutboy, it's 2008. SOE doesn't need an office in New Zealand to employ Obraik. How do you know he isn't a paid employee? How does anyone know that? He sure acts like one. He blindly ignores any fault in SWG, and there's a lot of fault.
You don't know anymore about Obraik than anyone else. SOE could very easily offer him free game time to viral market on their behalf. Read his posts, they are worded like PR statements and only post this game and SOE in a positive manner.
I really could care less who he works for, all I ask from the OP is to offer up some proof of the "tons" of players on Bloodfin... He wants all of us to go out and subscribe and spend money on this game, so offer up some evidence, if not proof, of his accuracy.
Because I was on Bloodfin last month and it was nearly impossible to find ANYONE outside of the 60 or so in Mos Eisley. So I know for a fact he is lying.
So what do we call you then? Since I supposedly work for SOE because I support the game, who should I assume you get paid by since you constantly bash the game?
The difference is that yo defend people and actions that are and were unethical -- he attacks people and actions that are and were unethical -- therefore it is far more more likely that YOU get paid to defend bad guys, because it boggles the mind that someone would DEFEND bad guys and bad actions for free. Your position, whereas I do believe it is honestly yours, completely astounds me. I haven't a clue as to how a human being could do what you do and NOT get paid. It does seem that is the case -- however bizarre it may be.
It is far more likely that someone would bash bad guys and bad actions for free. That's what people do when they feel they or others have been wronged, they try and fight it.
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Gutboy, it's 2008. SOE doesn't need an office in New Zealand to employ Obraik. How do you know he isn't a paid employee? How does anyone know that? He sure acts like one. He blindly ignores any fault in SWG, and there's a lot of fault.
You don't know anymore about Obraik than anyone else. SOE could very easily offer him free game time to viral market on their behalf. Read his posts, they are worded like PR statements and only post this game and SOE in a positive manner.
I really could care less who he works for, all I ask from the OP is to offer up some proof of the "tons" of players on Bloodfin... He wants all of us to go out and subscribe and spend money on this game, so offer up some evidence, if not proof, of his accuracy.
Because I was on Bloodfin last month and it was nearly impossible to find ANYONE outside of the 60 or so in Mos Eisley. So I know for a fact he is lying.
So what do we call you then? Since I supposedly work for SOE because I support the game, who should I assume you get paid by since you constantly bash the game?
The difference is that yo defend people and actions that are and were unethical -- he attacks people and actions that are and were unethical -- therefore it is far more more likely that YOU get paid to defend bad guys, because it boggles the mind that someone would DEFEND bad guys and bad actions for free. Your position, whereas I do believe it is honestly yours, completely astounds me. I haven't a clue as to how a human being could do what you do and NOT get paid. It does seem that is the case -- however bizarre it may be.
It is far more likely that someone would bash bad guys and bad actions for free. That's what people do when they feel they or others have been wronged, they try and fight it.
"bad guys" because they made a change that you don't like to game? I don't really think you can class someone as "bad" based on that.
I support the game because I enjoy it and provides fun to myself and my friends. If I enjoy/like something then I generally like to share that experience. Good experiences with anything are under-represented IMO. Heh, maybe that's why the NGE happened in the end
Wow those numbers are pathetic. I can't believe you'd post them as proof of how well the game is doing.
What is "bad" about those numbers?
Gutboy, it's 2008. SOE doesn't need an office in New Zealand to employ Obraik. How do you know he isn't a paid employee? How does anyone know that? He sure acts like one. He blindly ignores any fault in SWG, and there's a lot of fault.
You don't know anymore about Obraik than anyone else. SOE could very easily offer him free game time to viral market on their behalf. Read his posts, they are worded like PR statements and only post this game and SOE in a positive manner.
I really could care less who he works for, all I ask from the OP is to offer up some proof of the "tons" of players on Bloodfin... He wants all of us to go out and subscribe and spend money on this game, so offer up some evidence, if not proof, of his accuracy.
Because I was on Bloodfin last month and it was nearly impossible to find ANYONE outside of the 60 or so in Mos Eisley. So I know for a fact he is lying.
So what do we call you then? Since I supposedly work for SOE because I support the game, who should I assume you get paid by since you constantly bash the game?
The difference is that yo defend people and actions that are and were unethical -- he attacks people and actions that are and were unethical -- therefore it is far more more likely that YOU get paid to defend bad guys, because it boggles the mind that someone would DEFEND bad guys and bad actions for free. Your position, whereas I do believe it is honestly yours, completely astounds me. I haven't a clue as to how a human being could do what you do and NOT get paid. It does seem that is the case -- however bizarre it may be.
It is far more likely that someone would bash bad guys and bad actions for free. That's what people do when they feel they or others have been wronged, they try and fight it.
"bad guys" because they made a change that you don't like to game? I don't really think you can class someone as "bad" based on that.
I support the game because I enjoy it and provides fun to myself and my friends. If I enjoy/like something then I generally like to share that experience. Good experiences with anything are under-represented IMO. Heh, maybe that's why the NGE happened in the end
No, bad guys because they knowingly lied to their customers. The NGE was under development WHILE they were discussing upcoming features that they KNEW they were never going to deliver on. That certainly makes them bad guys.
Your response pretty much provs my point. You KNOW the issue, know why they are bad guys, know why what they did was wrong, and yet you chose to willfully mischaracterize the issue in your response, Why someone would willingly do so without being paid for it is truly bizarre.
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Star Wars still have more entertaining RPG's then anyone else. I mean yea SWG kinda went downhill after the Combat Update (When I stopped playing) but I have been quite entertained by other games. NGE did a bad thing to a great thing by releasing that patch I bet thy would take it back if they could. Although I hear that the guys at BioWare are in productiong of KoToR III (Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic III) and that this is gonna span out to an MMO atmosphere. I'd buy it whether it was such or not because KoTor is the top notch of RPG's next to the Elder Scrolls series.
Bad guys because they sold an expansion and advertised items that they knew were going to be useless in that expansion.
Bad guys because they continued to accept quarterly and yearly renewals knowing that they were making huge changes to the game.
Bad guys because it took reports to the BBB and states AG offices to get them to offer refunds for the expansion.
Bad guys because they just banned people instead of answering questions about the NGE on the forums.
Bad guys because they continue to lie to current players about how bad the population is.
Bad guys because they sold an expansion and advertised items that they knew were going to be useless in that expansion. But they also refunded those expansions.
Bad guys because they continued to accept quarterly and yearly renewals knowing that they were making huge changes to the game. Can't blame a company for how it's customers spend their money.
Bad guys because it took reports to the BBB and states AG offices to get them to offer refunds for the expansion. Really and you got this information how?
Bad guys because they just banned people instead of answering questions about the NGE on the forums. If that's the case every mmo is run by "bad guys" because this happens in everyone of them.
Bad guys because they continue to lie to current players about how bad the population is.
They don't announce their number of players in the first place.
SWG is no longer a good game , I can't really argue that point . However , evil has nothing to do with it . Maybe you could characterize them as morons or idiots , But evil or bad is a long shot . In the end it boils down to capitalism and the ideas that come along with it . They thought they could make more money , They were wrong .There's not much more to it .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I edited your post for clarity. Not much more needs to be said.
Bad guys because they continued to accept quarterly and yearly renewals knowing that they were making huge changes to the game. Can't blame a company for how it's customers spend their money.
Bad guys because it took reports to the BBB and states AG offices to get them to offer refunds for the expansion. Really and you got this information how?
Bad guys because they just banned people instead of answering questions about the NGE on the forums. If that's the case every mmo is run by "bad guys" because this happens in everyone of them.
Bad guys because they continue to lie to current players about how bad the population is.
They don't announce their number of players in the first place.
SWG is no longer a good game , I can't really argue that point . However , evil has nothing to do with it . Maybe you could characterize them as morons or idiots , But evil or bad is a long shot . In the end it boils down to capitalism and the ideas that come along with it . They thought they could make more money , They were wrong .There's not much more to it .
Willfully and knowingly misleading people is wrong. Doing so makes you a bad guy.
Offering a refund doesn't make the good guys, it proves in fact that they were bad guys and they knew it.
The NGE was in production for 2-3 months, during that time, they knowingly misled their customers by telling them that Ranger was going to be revamped. They stated this all the time knowing the class was going to be removed.
That's not capitalism, that's fraud.
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Wow those numbers are pathetic. I can't believe you'd post them as proof of how well the game is doing.
What he doesnt mention is that the overall number of officers is down by over 500 from last month. Maybe they all went on vacation.
OP, serious..... lol.
OP ... lol ,im pretty sure all the players you saw were tumbleweeds or holograms.
Wow those numbers are pathetic. I can't believe you'd post them as proof of how well the game is doing.
What he doesnt mention is that the overall number of officers is down by over 500 from last month. Maybe they all went on vacation.
He also forgot to mention that 90% of those kills were done by people with multiple accounts killing alts in their house. I hope nobody looks at those stats and thinks pvp is actually flourishing in SWG.
Lmao. this is a pretty funny thread. Somebody played a serious Jedi Mindtrick on the OP. He still hasn't offered up any screenshots to support his claim...
Gotta love viral marketing.
I have had 2 crashes since returning to retry this game . So far they have not been too bothersome,I have had alot less trouble with the rubberbanding issue this time around although my friend who lives in California has had alot of trouble with the rubberbanding bug. So far this game is just ok and somthing to do in the mean time as I too wait for Ryzom to return. The interface to me is the real CORE problem with swg. It my opinion now after a week into the game that if they ever really want this game to have a chance to fully recover from the damage they did is to rethink the combat interface its by far the worts I have ever encountered in any mmo. I do not understand why they just do not use the same Interface that EQ2 has its a 100 times better,with that being said the game is still entertaining me for now,although I find myself wanting to play EQ2 more we will see. I will make a post about my in game experience in detail after my 1 month subscription ends.
Bad guys because they continued to accept quarterly and yearly renewals knowing that they were making huge changes to the game. Can't blame a company for how it's customers spend their money.
Bad guys because it took reports to the BBB and states AG offices to get them to offer refunds for the expansion. Really and you got this information how?
Bad guys because they just banned people instead of answering questions about the NGE on the forums. If that's the case every mmo is run by "bad guys" because this happens in everyone of them.
Bad guys because they continue to lie to current players about how bad the population is.
They don't announce their number of players in the first place.
SWG is no longer a good game , I can't really argue that point . However , evil has nothing to do with it . Maybe you could characterize them as morons or idiots , But evil or bad is a long shot . In the end it boils down to capitalism and the ideas that come along with it . They thought they could make more money , They were wrong .There's not much more to it .
Willfully and knowingly misleading people is wrong. Doing so makes you a bad guy.
Offering a refund doesn't make the good guys, it proves in fact that they were bad guys and they knew it.
The NGE was in production for 2-3 months, during that time, they knowingly misled their customers by telling them that Ranger was going to be revamped. They stated this all the time knowing the class was going to be removed.
That's not capitalism, that's fraud.
Ranger was revamped , Revamped to spy
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Bad guys because they sold an expansion and advertised items that they knew were going to be useless in that expansion.
Bad guys because they continued to accept quarterly and yearly renewals knowing that they were making huge changes to the game.
Bad guys because it took reports to the BBB and states AG offices to get them to offer refunds for the expansion.
Bad guys because they just banned people instead of answering questions about the NGE on the forums.
Bad guys because they continue to lie to current players about how bad the population is.
Can we get back to the posts topic and that is trying to make an opinion of what I am seeing in game right now? This thread is not here to bash SOE or any other gamers its simply here to express my right to an opinion of the experience I am having with swg as I wait for Ryzom:) Please if you want to make a reply or post stick with the topic. I would love to hear some opinions from other players who ar now trying the game out or who are currently playing it:P
Bad guys because they sold an expansion and advertised items that they knew were going to be useless in that expansion.
Bad guys because they continued to accept quarterly and yearly renewals knowing that they were making huge changes to the game.
Bad guys because it took reports to the BBB and states AG offices to get them to offer refunds for the expansion.
Bad guys because they just banned people instead of answering questions about the NGE on the forums.
Bad guys because they continue to lie to current players about how bad the population is.
Can we get back to the posts topic and that is trying to make an opinion of what I am seeing in game right now? This thread is not here to bash SOE or any other gamers its simply here to express my right to an opinion of the experience I am having with swg as I wait for Ryzom:) Please if you want to make a reply or post stick with the topic. I would love to hear some opinions from other players who ar now trying the game out or who are currently playing it:P
the game is broken the devs them self have said it them self several times that they cant fix it either so why would anyone have a good experience playing this game?
Bad guys because they continued to accept quarterly and yearly renewals knowing that they were making huge changes to the game. Can't blame a company for how it's customers spend their money.
Bad guys because it took reports to the BBB and states AG offices to get them to offer refunds for the expansion. Really and you got this information how?
Bad guys because they just banned people instead of answering questions about the NGE on the forums. If that's the case every mmo is run by "bad guys" because this happens in everyone of them.
Bad guys because they continue to lie to current players about how bad the population is.
They don't announce their number of players in the first place.
SWG is no longer a good game , I can't really argue that point . However , evil has nothing to do with it . Maybe you could characterize them as morons or idiots , But evil or bad is a long shot . In the end it boils down to capitalism and the ideas that come along with it . They thought they could make more money , They were wrong .There's not much more to it .
Willfully and knowingly misleading people is wrong. Doing so makes you a bad guy.
Offering a refund doesn't make the good guys, it proves in fact that they were bad guys and they knew it.
The NGE was in production for 2-3 months, during that time, they knowingly misled their customers by telling them that Ranger was going to be revamped. They stated this all the time knowing the class was going to be removed.
That's not capitalism, that's fraud.
Ranger was revamped , Revamped to spy
Yes, which makes them bad guys who did a bad thing. Why do you feel the need to obfuscate that fact? That is even more odd than Obraik's defense of it. At least he LIKES the game. Unless of course you are just trollin. Of course you are.
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Once i loved this game... It was like "my first love"
Now i hate this game... My first MMO love is bitch now!
I hope that BioWare is doing some SW themed MMO (if not SW, atleast ScFi)... But nothing so far...