then go work for a huge company for free or run a big company like theirs and dont take any profits ever while still paying employees. You refuse out of hate not for the love of the game.
lol, you guys think it would be impossible to revert back to a pre-cu classic server? they did it with eq1 and that game came before swg. NO I think it is impossible for YOU guys to give anything but hate. Someone give these guys a few beers and you guys would love to tell us all about it huh.
I never said it was impossible. In fact I believe SOE has the original code to do it. EQ1 is an SOE IP. SWG is based on a LA IP. My opinions are based on LA launching a new SW MMO. I don't believe LA will let SOE continue a competing SW MMO. If they did, it would get lost to station pass. They could implement pre-cu, but if there is a private server legally operating at the time for free, it won't be worth it. All the people that play legacy EQ1, would they pay $15 a month if they can get it for free. Some would, but many wouldn't.
And yes I would like a beer and would tell you all about it.
"Suddenly, thousands of Trekies whose heads are full of facts of things like the stardate when the Cardassians farted on Deep Space nine are irrlelevant." - hardcoremoviecritic
Hastor, I agree with all your points made in response to my post, save one. SOE will never magically find pre-cu code. If LA allows SOE to continue to operate SWG after a new SW MMO comes out, it won't be pre-cu. They will stick SWG in Station Pass permanently and let it rot. It will become like MXO and PS. Just filler for marketing purposes. I seriously doubt SOE will spend one dime reinstating pre-cu. They know many of the players they alienated won't return anyways because they don't trust SOE. They won't risk losing the current players. They aren't going to shut down an existing SWG server to host a legacy server. IMHO if they did shut down servers, it would be to just not maintain operation costs on the existing "dead" servers. This of course would only happen if LA allows SOE to compete with a new SW MMO.
While what you say does make sense and certainly fits SE's corporate personality - an equal mix of arrogance, obstinacy and stupidity. However, bearing in mind its past record, what is likely to happen is the following;
Bioware and LA introduce their new MMO.
On that day that happens, SOE announces that now, only now, has it 'listened to our loyal player base' and will relaunch Classic SWG Servers.
These will run alongside the NGE servers.
Neither versions of the game will have any Developers or CSRs assigned to them. Only when people have finally ground all 36 professions again will SOE reveal that it also did not implement Jedi in the newly restored Classic Servers.
Poor service, huge bugs, really poor financial administration of subs will soon cause the final exodus from both types of server.
Then, in one final last mad throw of the dice, when there are less than 1000 players in total, ie. less than Matrix Online, will SOE announce a merge of both different games into one server. They will poll the remaining players and ask whether the remaining server should be 'Classic' or 'NGE'. The players will overwhelmingly vote for 'Classic'. SOE will then announce that the server will be 'NGE'. Three months later, the whole game will be closed down.
UNTIL THE - REMEMBER, WHILE THE NGE IS MAKING $1 PROFIT A YEAR, IE. TWICE AS MUCH AS THE MATRIX ONLINE MAKES NOW, SOE WILL NEVER PULL THE PLUG, IF ONLY OUT OF SPITE.
soe still has copyrights to the game all they would need is positive fan mail for a server such as that one and the original code would be submitted to la devs. Lucas Arts would then implement an added server, all of this hate tho will get you nowhere.
Hastor, I agree with all your points made in response to my post, save one. SOE will never magically find pre-cu code. If LA allows SOE to continue to operate SWG after a new SW MMO comes out, it won't be pre-cu. They will stick SWG in Station Pass permanently and let it rot. It will become like MXO and PS. Just filler for marketing purposes. I seriously doubt SOE will spend one dime reinstating pre-cu. They know many of the players they alienated won't return anyways because they don't trust SOE. They won't risk losing the current players. They aren't going to shut down an existing SWG server to host a legacy server. IMHO if they did shut down servers, it would be to just not maintain operation costs on the existing "dead" servers. This of course would only happen if LA allows SOE to compete with a new SW MMO.
While what you say does make sense and certainly fits SE's corporate personality - an equal mix of arrogance, obstinacy and stupidity. However, bearing in mind its past record, what is likely to happen is the following;
Bioware and LA introduce their new MMO.
On that day that happens, SOE announces that now, only now, has it 'listened to our loyal player base' and will relaunch Classic SWG Servers.
These will run alongside the NGE servers.
Neither versions of the game will have any Developers or CSRs assigned to them. Only when people have finally ground all 36 professions again will SOE reveal that it also did not implement Jedi in the newly restored Classic Servers.
Poor service, huge bugs, really poor financial administration of subs will soon cause the final exodus from both types of server.
Then, in one final last mad throw of the dice, when there are less than 1000 players in total, ie. less than Matrix Online, will SOE announce a merge of both different games into one server. They will poll the remaining players and ask whether the remaining server should be 'Classic' or 'NGE'. The players will overwhelmingly vote for 'Classic'. SOE will then announce that the server will be 'NGE'. Three months later, the whole game will be closed down.
UNTIL THE - REMEMBER, WHILE THE NGE IS MAKING $1 PROFIT A YEAR, IE. TWICE AS MUCH AS THE MATRIX ONLINE MAKES NOW, SOE WILL NEVER PULL THE PLUG, IF ONLY OUT OF SPITE.
I conceed every thing you said is as plausible as what I've said. Good post.
The two biggest factors I think will influence this is what LA wants and any competing private servers that may exist at that time.
"Suddenly, thousands of Trekies whose heads are full of facts of things like the stardate when the Cardassians farted on Deep Space nine are irrlelevant." - hardcoremoviecritic
Hmm it's true SOE has done quite a mess of SWG without ever really caring about their players(CU came with barely a weeks notice if I remember correctly and there were never any questions whether it should be implemented or not and NGE...well...nuff said) nor communicating with them on a regular basis.
I have to agree with the no-voters on the fact that yes I don't trust SOE any more than I trust my ten-year old computer running on windows 3.2 but out the love for the game I'd still probably join. Pre-cu SWG was, for me at least, one of the few exceptionally good MMO's out there with an actually functional community. I was a part of many different PA's in there and only once met with a group of people who, after being asked a question, went on the typical rampage of "haha n00b, go **** yourself!" I'm not saying the community has changed nowadays, I've played and still found quite a lot of friendly people, but I kinda really miss the huge crowd of people sitting in front of Theed, just hangin' around, chatting and doing friendly duels.
So all-in-all Yeah, I'd definitely go back as long as I'd see an official statement that while SOE might continue to tweak the pre-cu server(s) with smaller updates(multi-passenger vehicles, Kashyyyk, new spaceships etc) they would NOT introduce massive changes such as were the CU and NGE. I don't trust those guys but I did(and still do) like SWG in its pre-cu form. True, it has its bugs and errors but heck, what game doesn't? It's only human to make mistakes.
soe still has copyrights to the game all they would need is positive fan mail for a server such as that one and the original code would be submitted to la devs. Lucas Arts would then implement an added server, all of this hate tho will get you nowhere.
Absolutly a posibility. Do I think positive fan mail will make a difference. Probably not, but it may. I think LA and SOE have their plans set and will not take the actual fans into consideration. After all this is what has already happened several times already.
As far as hate is concerned. I don't hate SOE, I dislike and don't trust them to deliver the product they promise. Til SOE does something to make me like or trust them again I'm not going too. That choice is theirs and I don't have to give them money for their oppertunity to do so.
"Suddenly, thousands of Trekies whose heads are full of facts of things like the stardate when the Cardassians farted on Deep Space nine are irrlelevant." - hardcoremoviecritic
UNTIL THE - REMEMBER, WHILE THE NGE IS MAKING $1 PROFIT A YEAR, IE. TWICE AS MUCH AS THE MATRIX ONLINE MAKES NOW, SOE WILL NEVER PULL THE PLUG, IF ONLY OUT OF SPITE.
This is just something I heard from 'some random guy who knows a guy, whose uncle's dog's dentist's third cousin's former roommate who knows a guy', so take it with a truckload of salt. Supposedly, SWG is being funded by LEC, and SOE doesn't even really think of it as one of their games anymore (which is part of the reason SOE forgot to set up any tables for SWG at their last fanfair). SOE was ready to walk away from the game at the beginning of last year, but LEC wants the game live because they think it will be a major boost for their next MMO (they are afraid closing it before a replacement is ready will taint the new MMO, part of the same reasoning keeping them from allowing server merges, which the developers are pushing for). The recent shift in development to smaller scale updates (revamping the professions again)and smaller scale publishes (one new instance and a couple collections per publish, as opposed to several instance per) is due to LEC reducing costs (part of the same cost cuts that cut all those jobs recently). Basically, SOE makes the same amount whether the game has a million subs or ten subs.
Anyway, I think it could be possible, but not very likely.
You've got to be kidding right? With all the crap SOE has pulled? With Smedley still in charge? I find it hard to believe that anyone would ask such a question. A long time ago in a galaxie called Naritus I had 4 wonderful accounts that I couldn't wait to get home from work to log into. Then in the blink of an eye SOE ripped it all apart.
In the last few years I have saerched for a game that I could become as involved in as much as SWG and I have found nothing. Sure I play WOW and it's fun. But it's no SWG. Even at that one can not forget what SOE did. One day Mustafar was great and the next day the game sucked so bad that I want to believe every rumor of a new Star Wars MMO or rollback or classic servers. But it's still SOE and everyone hates them don't they? So how could I even think of answering yes?
Simple there is nothing out there now nor do I see anything coming in the next 10 years that will compare.
Give me my mellon, 250 credits, a cdef pistol and drop me off on Rori. I miss the nightspiders and the spinflaps. Anything pre-cu and I'm in for day one.
...but I kinda really miss the huge crowd of people sitting in front of Theed, just hangin' around, chatting and doing friendly duels.
You bring up a good point.
I used to say that SWG was the only game where I could sit down in the starport for my entire night's play session, and never feel like I was wasting my time.
MMOs these days (including today's SWG) are pointless if you aren't hurrying up and doing something every second. To me, that's just too unfulfilling for the amount of tedium I'd have to put up with.
Even in action games, you get cutscenes to "cool your jets." Otherwise it would just be tedious and pointless after awhile. See, action game designers like Hideo Kojima understand drama, and what needs to be done to sustain the attention of a player.
Every good drama, like every good game, has points of low activity and points of high activity. SWG understood this better than any MMO I've known. Even though the combat activity wasn't all "fast action" like the NGE, it just played better because the periods in between the combat were simply done so well.
__________________________ "Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it." --Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints." --Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls." --Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
But it's still SOE and everyone hates them don't they? So how could I even think of answering yes?
No. I don't trust anything whatsoever that SOE says about SWG, but I don't hate them. Currently I having a fun time on EverQuest II, dividing my time about equally between combat and crafting. (I always heard that EQ2's engine was based on SWG, so I wanted to see what had been done with it, and GameStop had EQ2 Classic boxes dirt cheap, so...)
...but I kinda really miss the huge crowd of people sitting in front of Theed, just hangin' around, chatting and doing friendly duels.
You bring up a good point.
I used to say that SWG was the only game where I could sit down in the starport for my entire night's play session, and never feel like I was wasting my time.
MMOs these days (including today's SWG) are pointless if you aren't hurrying up and doing something every second. To me, that's just too unfulfilling for the amount of tedium I'd have to put up with.
Even in action games, you get cutscenes to "cool your jets." Otherwise it would just be tedious and pointless after awhile. See, action game designers like Hideo Kojima understand drama, and what needs to be done to sustain the attention of a player.
Every good drama, like every good game, has points of low activity and points of high activity. SWG understood this better than any MMO I've known. Even though the combat activity wasn't all "fast action" like the NGE, it just played better because the periods in between the combat were simply done so well.
I couldn't agree more, this is the first game have ever played where i have felt like I didn't have to be doing something every single minute. Just the interactions with thousands of people were great. I didn't have to worry about getting to level Leet to take on some super gigantic beastie. even starting out with a cdef pistol, and a fruit you could still join a group, and go along for the ride grab some exp points, and hides, and forage point, along with a million other things.
I Really miss the old SWG. I played up till the NGE and my favorite time was pre holo days. I was a ch they took my pets from me - i hunted for and nearly obtained all the rare pets at that time.
Still today I wish the old game would return. How ever I know truly that game is gone forever. It wasn't just the system that made the game what it was . It was us as well. And to re-capture that crowd wont happen. SoE didn't just burn the bridge as they went they blew up a crater the size of the moon. No one trust them and for good reasons.
i would, simply because i liked that itteration of the game more then i currently do however i do still like the game
some people dont like SOE anymore, period, so they wont come back...
finally, it wont happen until SOE grows some balls, if they release pre-cu and they get a ton more subs then someone is gonna have to answer to LA or Smed about why they decided to release the nge.
It's 3 years too late. The game is outdated with both the graphics and engine being sub par now. SoE missed their chance to have their "New Coke" vs "Classic Coca-Cola".
Plus, they wouldn't add the expansions cause they would have to redo all of that content to make it happen, and who, after all the hell those bastards put us through, would actually want to pay them a monthly sub?
Well everyone can state how "they" feel. I don't know overall what numbers they could get back.
*I* personally would reactivate most of my accounts for Pre-CU.
Why?
Quite simply there is nothing else out.. and nothing coming out. Any NON level based game that is skill based coming up... is by small underfunded companies and I've already taken that ride. (they may have the best of intentions but they just don't have the capital to pull it off long term).
So while the market is just full of EQ/WoW clones... it will never be to late for *me*.
Its really a wonder that the people at LEC and SOE can be this brain dead... Then again I don't think even to this day...
They have figured out:
1) Warcraft = computer game series
2) Star Wars = Movie IP
1) may translate into a very hyped MMO that does well on name brand.
2) Was mostly made up of a fan base that probably didn't play video games or even own a gaming computer (my uncles etc watched all the star wars movies.. they are all in their late 60's and early 70's and don't play.. computer games).
Oh well.
Personally wish that since Sir Howard has made the gaming division a priority.. that someone would wake him up to this abortion... Smedley may be able to make snide comments to us.. I'd like to see him in a discussion with Sir Howard about..
"there will be no rollback.. losing money is good"
i would, simply because i liked that itteration of the game more then i currently do however i do still like the game
some people dont like SOE anymore, period, so they wont come back...
finally, it wont happen until SOE grows some balls, if they release pre-cu and they get a ton more subs then someone is gonna have to answer to LA or Smed about why they decided to release the nge.
It was the Smed and the folks from LEC that made the decision to go ahead with the NGE. All of the developers involved, along with most of the LEC folks are no longer at either company. The only person who could potentially be harmed by classic servers is the Smed himself.
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then go work for a huge company for free or run a big company like theirs and dont take any profits ever while still paying employees. You refuse out of hate not for the love of the game.
I never said it was impossible. In fact I believe SOE has the original code to do it. EQ1 is an SOE IP. SWG is based on a LA IP. My opinions are based on LA launching a new SW MMO. I don't believe LA will let SOE continue a competing SW MMO. If they did, it would get lost to station pass. They could implement pre-cu, but if there is a private server legally operating at the time for free, it won't be worth it. All the people that play legacy EQ1, would they pay $15 a month if they can get it for free. Some would, but many wouldn't.
And yes I would like a beer and would tell you all about it.
"Suddenly, thousands of Trekies whose heads are full of facts of things like the stardate when the Cardassians farted on Deep Space nine are irrlelevant." - hardcoremoviecritic
Exactly. Why would a sane person trust SOE after they lied and deceived us multiple times.
Let someone else create a new real Star Wars MMOG and I will play it.
While what you say does make sense and certainly fits SE's corporate personality - an equal mix of arrogance, obstinacy and stupidity. However, bearing in mind its past record, what is likely to happen is the following;
Bioware and LA introduce their new MMO.
On that day that happens, SOE announces that now, only now, has it 'listened to our loyal player base' and will relaunch Classic SWG Servers.
These will run alongside the NGE servers.
Neither versions of the game will have any Developers or CSRs assigned to them. Only when people have finally ground all 36 professions again will SOE reveal that it also did not implement Jedi in the newly restored Classic Servers.
Poor service, huge bugs, really poor financial administration of subs will soon cause the final exodus from both types of server.
Then, in one final last mad throw of the dice, when there are less than 1000 players in total, ie. less than Matrix Online, will SOE announce a merge of both different games into one server. They will poll the remaining players and ask whether the remaining server should be 'Classic' or 'NGE'. The players will overwhelmingly vote for 'Classic'. SOE will then announce that the server will be 'NGE'. Three months later, the whole game will be closed down.
UNTIL THE - REMEMBER, WHILE THE NGE IS MAKING $1 PROFIT A YEAR, IE. TWICE AS MUCH AS THE MATRIX ONLINE MAKES NOW, SOE WILL NEVER PULL THE PLUG, IF ONLY OUT OF SPITE.
soe still has copyrights to the game all they would need is positive fan mail for a server such as that one and the original code would be submitted to la devs. Lucas Arts would then implement an added server, all of this hate tho will get you nowhere.
While what you say does make sense and certainly fits SE's corporate personality - an equal mix of arrogance, obstinacy and stupidity. However, bearing in mind its past record, what is likely to happen is the following;
Bioware and LA introduce their new MMO.
On that day that happens, SOE announces that now, only now, has it 'listened to our loyal player base' and will relaunch Classic SWG Servers.
These will run alongside the NGE servers.
Neither versions of the game will have any Developers or CSRs assigned to them. Only when people have finally ground all 36 professions again will SOE reveal that it also did not implement Jedi in the newly restored Classic Servers.
Poor service, huge bugs, really poor financial administration of subs will soon cause the final exodus from both types of server.
Then, in one final last mad throw of the dice, when there are less than 1000 players in total, ie. less than Matrix Online, will SOE announce a merge of both different games into one server. They will poll the remaining players and ask whether the remaining server should be 'Classic' or 'NGE'. The players will overwhelmingly vote for 'Classic'. SOE will then announce that the server will be 'NGE'. Three months later, the whole game will be closed down.
UNTIL THE - REMEMBER, WHILE THE NGE IS MAKING $1 PROFIT A YEAR, IE. TWICE AS MUCH AS THE MATRIX ONLINE MAKES NOW, SOE WILL NEVER PULL THE PLUG, IF ONLY OUT OF SPITE.
I conceed every thing you said is as plausible as what I've said. Good post.
The two biggest factors I think will influence this is what LA wants and any competing private servers that may exist at that time.
"Suddenly, thousands of Trekies whose heads are full of facts of things like the stardate when the Cardassians farted on Deep Space nine are irrlelevant." - hardcoremoviecritic
Hmm it's true SOE has done quite a mess of SWG without ever really caring about their players(CU came with barely a weeks notice if I remember correctly and there were never any questions whether it should be implemented or not and NGE...well...nuff said) nor communicating with them on a regular basis.
I have to agree with the no-voters on the fact that yes I don't trust SOE any more than I trust my ten-year old computer running on windows 3.2 but out the love for the game I'd still probably join. Pre-cu SWG was, for me at least, one of the few exceptionally good MMO's out there with an actually functional community. I was a part of many different PA's in there and only once met with a group of people who, after being asked a question, went on the typical rampage of "haha n00b, go **** yourself!" I'm not saying the community has changed nowadays, I've played and still found quite a lot of friendly people, but I kinda really miss the huge crowd of people sitting in front of Theed, just hangin' around, chatting and doing friendly duels.
So all-in-all Yeah, I'd definitely go back as long as I'd see an official statement that while SOE might continue to tweak the pre-cu server(s) with smaller updates(multi-passenger vehicles, Kashyyyk, new spaceships etc) they would NOT introduce massive changes such as were the CU and NGE. I don't trust those guys but I did(and still do) like SWG in its pre-cu form. True, it has its bugs and errors but heck, what game doesn't? It's only human to make mistakes.
Absolutly a posibility. Do I think positive fan mail will make a difference. Probably not, but it may. I think LA and SOE have their plans set and will not take the actual fans into consideration. After all this is what has already happened several times already.
As far as hate is concerned. I don't hate SOE, I dislike and don't trust them to deliver the product they promise. Til SOE does something to make me like or trust them again I'm not going too. That choice is theirs and I don't have to give them money for their oppertunity to do so.
"Suddenly, thousands of Trekies whose heads are full of facts of things like the stardate when the Cardassians farted on Deep Space nine are irrlelevant." - hardcoremoviecritic
This is just something I heard from 'some random guy who knows a guy, whose uncle's dog's dentist's third cousin's former roommate who knows a guy', so take it with a truckload of salt. Supposedly, SWG is being funded by LEC, and SOE doesn't even really think of it as one of their games anymore (which is part of the reason SOE forgot to set up any tables for SWG at their last fanfair). SOE was ready to walk away from the game at the beginning of last year, but LEC wants the game live because they think it will be a major boost for their next MMO (they are afraid closing it before a replacement is ready will taint the new MMO, part of the same reasoning keeping them from allowing server merges, which the developers are pushing for). The recent shift in development to smaller scale updates (revamping the professions again)and smaller scale publishes (one new instance and a couple collections per publish, as opposed to several instance per) is due to LEC reducing costs (part of the same cost cuts that cut all those jobs recently). Basically, SOE makes the same amount whether the game has a million subs or ten subs.
Anyway, I think it could be possible, but not very likely.
You've got to be kidding right? With all the crap SOE has pulled? With Smedley still in charge? I find it hard to believe that anyone would ask such a question. A long time ago in a galaxie called Naritus I had 4 wonderful accounts that I couldn't wait to get home from work to log into. Then in the blink of an eye SOE ripped it all apart.
In the last few years I have saerched for a game that I could become as involved in as much as SWG and I have found nothing. Sure I play WOW and it's fun. But it's no SWG. Even at that one can not forget what SOE did. One day Mustafar was great and the next day the game sucked so bad that I want to believe every rumor of a new Star Wars MMO or rollback or classic servers. But it's still SOE and everyone hates them don't they? So how could I even think of answering yes?
Simple there is nothing out there now nor do I see anything coming in the next 10 years that will compare.
Give me my mellon, 250 credits, a cdef pistol and drop me off on Rori. I miss the nightspiders and the spinflaps. Anything pre-cu and I'm in for day one.
I don't claim to be right, I'm just posting.
You bring up a good point.
I used to say that SWG was the only game where I could sit down in the starport for my entire night's play session, and never feel like I was wasting my time.
MMOs these days (including today's SWG) are pointless if you aren't hurrying up and doing something every second. To me, that's just too unfulfilling for the amount of tedium I'd have to put up with.
Even in action games, you get cutscenes to "cool your jets." Otherwise it would just be tedious and pointless after awhile. See, action game designers like Hideo Kojima understand drama, and what needs to be done to sustain the attention of a player.
Every good drama, like every good game, has points of low activity and points of high activity. SWG understood this better than any MMO I've known. Even though the combat activity wasn't all "fast action" like the NGE, it just played better because the periods in between the combat were simply done so well.
__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
No. I don't trust anything whatsoever that SOE says about SWG, but I don't hate them. Currently I having a fun time on EverQuest II, dividing my time about equally between combat and crafting. (I always heard that EQ2's engine was based on SWG, so I wanted to see what had been done with it, and GameStop had EQ2 Classic boxes dirt cheap, so...)
You bring up a good point.
I used to say that SWG was the only game where I could sit down in the starport for my entire night's play session, and never feel like I was wasting my time.
MMOs these days (including today's SWG) are pointless if you aren't hurrying up and doing something every second. To me, that's just too unfulfilling for the amount of tedium I'd have to put up with.
Even in action games, you get cutscenes to "cool your jets." Otherwise it would just be tedious and pointless after awhile. See, action game designers like Hideo Kojima understand drama, and what needs to be done to sustain the attention of a player.
Every good drama, like every good game, has points of low activity and points of high activity. SWG understood this better than any MMO I've known. Even though the combat activity wasn't all "fast action" like the NGE, it just played better because the periods in between the combat were simply done so well.
I couldn't agree more, this is the first game have ever played where i have felt like I didn't have to be doing something every single minute. Just the interactions with thousands of people were great. I didn't have to worry about getting to level Leet to take on some super gigantic beastie. even starting out with a cdef pistol, and a fruit you could still join a group, and go along for the ride grab some exp points, and hides, and forage point, along with a million other things.
After once being a loyal EQ and SWG customer for many years, after quitting SWG, SOE will not get a dime from me as long as I live.
Too many lies.
I Really miss the old SWG. I played up till the NGE and my favorite time was pre holo days. I was a ch they took my pets from me - i hunted for and nearly obtained all the rare pets at that time.
Still today I wish the old game would return. How ever I know truly that game is gone forever. It wasn't just the system that made the game what it was . It was us as well. And to re-capture that crowd wont happen. SoE didn't just burn the bridge as they went they blew up a crater the size of the moon. No one trust them and for good reasons.
So my answer is no I would not rejoin.
i would, simply because i liked that itteration of the game more then i currently do however i do still like the game
some people dont like SOE anymore, period, so they wont come back...
finally, it wont happen until SOE grows some balls, if they release pre-cu and they get a ton more subs then someone is gonna have to answer to LA or Smed about why they decided to release the nge.
It's 3 years too late. The game is outdated with both the graphics and engine being sub par now. SoE missed their chance to have their "New Coke" vs "Classic Coca-Cola".
Plus, they wouldn't add the expansions cause they would have to redo all of that content to make it happen, and who, after all the hell those bastards put us through, would actually want to pay them a monthly sub?
Well everyone can state how "they" feel. I don't know overall what numbers they could get back.
*I* personally would reactivate most of my accounts for Pre-CU.
Why?
Quite simply there is nothing else out.. and nothing coming out. Any NON level based game that is skill based coming up... is by small underfunded companies and I've already taken that ride. (they may have the best of intentions but they just don't have the capital to pull it off long term).
So while the market is just full of EQ/WoW clones... it will never be to late for *me*.
Its really a wonder that the people at LEC and SOE can be this brain dead... Then again I don't think even to this day...
They have figured out:
1) Warcraft = computer game series
2) Star Wars = Movie IP
1) may translate into a very hyped MMO that does well on name brand.
2) Was mostly made up of a fan base that probably didn't play video games or even own a gaming computer (my uncles etc watched all the star wars movies.. they are all in their late 60's and early 70's and don't play.. computer games).
Oh well.
Personally wish that since Sir Howard has made the gaming division a priority.. that someone would wake him up to this abortion... Smedley may be able to make snide comments to us.. I'd like to see him in a discussion with Sir Howard about..
"there will be no rollback.. losing money is good"
I mean I'd pay to see it on pay-per-view...
I would in a heart beat.
I just feel sorry for my friends, girlfriend and family. They wouldnt see me for months! I would once again become a recluse LOL
It was the Smed and the folks from LEC that made the decision to go ahead with the NGE. All of the developers involved, along with most of the LEC folks are no longer at either company. The only person who could potentially be harmed by classic servers is the Smed himself.