I've been clean since 3 months after the launch TBC. I am looking forward to Warhammer and if the games turns out bad I'm looking toward Aion and Chronicles of Spellborn, maybe even WoTLK.
It was directed at WoW. If I wanted better PvE I could have gone to EverQuest, if I wanted better PvP I could have just gone to DAoC, all the same systems. Only reason WoW really took off was because of how easy it was, sadly.
WAR will be easy to level also.....they want it that way because the most content is at 40
There's a difference between a game being easy to level and the game being easy across the board. Blizzard does a good job of holding your hand and herding you through the whole game, god forbid there is ever a penalty to your character for screwing up. That might make you quit. <sneeze> Oh hey I leveled up!
WAR on the other hand has an excuse for easy leveling, cause thats not all the game is. The game is RvR, the most successful form of PvP (and fun) to date. They want you in that action. Its real end game.
WAR will be easy to level also.....they want it that way because the most content is at 40
My understanding is that this is wrong.
When you rush through, you cheat yourself of all the stuff that you won't be able to go back to. Which is a problem that I had with AoC, the linear experience of the world. The only stuff waiting at the end are the capital city sieges- everything else is available all along and you are supposed to build on it as you get there.
___________________ Sadly, I see storm clouds on the horizon. A faint stench of Vanguard is in the air.-Kien
WAR will be easy to level also.....they want it that way because the most content is at 40
My understanding is that this is wrong.
When you rush through, you cheat yourself of all the stuff that you won't be able to go back to. Which is a problem that I had with AoC, the linear experience of the world. The only stuff waiting at the end are the capital city sieges- everything else is available all along and you are supposed to build on it as you get there.
I just wanna PvP, so levelling is incidental. If the PvP levelling is efficient enough I will probably use that route.
Well I wont be quiting WoW unless I can get my cousins to jump to another game with me. But I will try open beta for WAR and now that I built a new computer Im going to be playing Vanguard.
Quit just when they're releasing WotLK? What are you, drunk? and miss out on some good promising content, for a game that, from what I hear they're going to actually cut down professions/classes? (this confirmed by the WAR Beta testers, as well as the developers themselves.)
Quit just when they're releasing WotLK? What are you, drunk? and miss out on some good promising content, for a game that, from what I hear they're going to actually cut down professions/classes? (this confirmed by the WAR Beta testers, as well as the developers themselves.) No thank you, I'm doing fine with WoW.
Thats fine that you are excited for WotLK. (worldofraids.com is a great site to get all the tidbits and info on it).
I would like to add that they did not cut out any profession. Yes, they did cut out 4 classes that they deemed weren't up to par to their expectations. That leaves 20 classes left in the game. WoW only has 9 classes (10 if you count the deathknight). They did also cut out 4 of the 6 major cities. But, they did this in Beta, and they also mentioned that they will eventually add the cut content once it undergoes more polish. Im just saying that its not like they broke or even crippled their game in anyway. If they had announced only 2 cities throughout the beta and 20 classes, would that change your opinion?
Not me I'll wait. I did that when AoC came out, but what a mistake that was.
Yeah a lot more people are being cautious after the AoC fiasco and they should be. Waiting a bit to see how the game does and whether it fulfuls all its promises may be the way to go.
In both war beta and wotlk beta(thanks to a friends account). All i can say is that being an avid pvper ican see absolutely no point in getting wotlk. WAR pvp is FUN(pve side ain't bad either), wotlk has me practically ripping my hair out in frustration... it is not a fun experience. Class balance is utterly fubar, even worse than it is in tbc. Yes i realise that it is still in beta but if it's anything like tbc beta then bar some minor changes and the rare last minute talent/ability drops we have at this stage got a pretty good view of what's to come.
WAR = fun. WotLK so far is frustrating at best in pvp and pve looks set to be as much of a grind as tbc (complete with the same 'lfm instance x - no class x or y' that we see with mgt now... thou this time it's not the dps shaman being cock blocked it's the magic user tanks).
Perhaps if i'd got myself a rogue i'd be gushing with praise over wotlk...
I'll probably never quit WoW unless Blizzard releases a better MMO. Even then, I'm sure I'd try to play both.
I've never understood people with countless alts. I've trouble enough focusing on 2 characters, and that's after 3.5 years of playing. One of them is exalted with just about everything except raid-only factions like Scales of Sands and Ashtongue.
Warhammer Online has been a letdown throughout my beta testing experiences, and I've been doing that for a year. Age of Conan was a big letdown. LotRO wasn't even that good.
well i just quit after about 3 years of play got 2 70s a lv 50 and lv 40- 70 lock 50 hunter 40 druid and another 70 rouge so who is gonna quit and who is gonna stay
A rhetorical and presumptuous question because, ONE, you can't know you're going to switch to war because you haven't tried it yet. TWO, like me and a lot of people, you got tired of wow for a minute but you'll be back. So many people will try war and be like omg and get more into wow seeing how much a game can suck.
well i just quit after about 3 years of play got 2 70s a lv 50 and lv 40- 70 lock 50 hunter 40 druid and another 70 rouge so who is gonna quit and who is gonna stay
A rhetorical and presumptuous question because, ONE, you can't know you're going to switch to war because you haven't tried it yet. TWO, like me and a lot of people, you got tired of wow for a minute but you'll be back. So many people will try war and be like omg and get more into wow seeing how much a game can suck.
You're being presumptuous by saying he will come back. I know I won't even if WAR is bad I'm done with WoW.
How do you know his situation?
He just said he was quitting WoW not that he would stay in WAR.
well i just quit after about 3 years of play got 2 70s a lv 50 and lv 40- 70 lock 50 hunter 40 druid and another 70 rouge so who is gonna quit and who is gonna stay
A rhetorical and presumptuous question because, ONE, you can't know you're going to switch to war because you haven't tried it yet. TWO, like me and a lot of people, you got tired of wow for a minute but you'll be back. So many people will try war and be like omg and get more into wow seeing how much a game can suck.
You're being presumptuous by saying he will come back. I know I won't even if WAR is bad I'm done with WoW.
How do you know his situation?
He just said he was quitting WoW not that he would stay in WAR.
well i just quit after about 3 years of play got 2 70s a lv 50 and lv 40- 70 lock 50 hunter 40 druid and another 70 rouge so who is gonna quit and who is gonna stay
A rhetorical and presumptuous question because, ONE, you can't know you're going to switch to war because you haven't tried it yet. TWO, like me and a lot of people, you got tired of wow for a minute but you'll be back. So many people will try war and be like omg and get more into wow seeing how much a game can suck.
You're being presumptuous by saying he will come back. I know I won't even if WAR is bad I'm done with WoW.
How do you know his situation?
He just said he was quitting WoW not that he would stay in WAR.
Did you even read the subject line?
Subject line: Who is gonna quit wow for another game like warhammer online
Did you?
He never said he would STAY in WAR he may leave wow for it but not like WAR and quit it. You presumed switching meant staying in WAR. The act of switching merely means he would try it.
You presumed he would come back to WoW as well which he didn't say.
I already quit WoW for second time before 6 months. I think never will come back if WotLK do not offer nice world PvP, what WoW was promised on his release. Now WAR is what WoW was supposed to be...
Where themepark games try to hide that they are copying WOW, games like Mortal Online and Darkfall make no attempt to hide their inspiration ______\m/_____ LordOfDarkDesire
I quit WoW 5 months ago have no intention of playing it again just had my taste of the game and do not want anymore. Personally i like it better before the expansion.
I quit a couple months after TBC came out. That really ruined the game for me. Playing a Horde on a RP server was a riot and then TBC came out and the horde chat was ruined by horde-wannabe wankers.
Switched to LoTRO and been playing that happily for the last year+ but I am going to try War:) Love faction vs. faction action.
well i just quit after about 3 years of play got 2 70s a lv 50 and lv 40- 70 lock 50 hunter 40 druid and another 70 rouge so who is gonna quit and who is gonna stay
A rhetorical and presumptuous question because, ONE, you can't know you're going to switch to war because you haven't tried it yet. TWO, like me and a lot of people, you got tired of wow for a minute but you'll be back. So many people will try war and be like omg and get more into wow seeing how much a game can suck.
You're being presumptuous by saying he will come back. I know I won't even if WAR is bad I'm done with WoW.
How do you know his situation?
He just said he was quitting WoW not that he would stay in WAR.
Did you even read the subject line?
Subject line: Who is gonna quit wow for another game like warhammer online
Did you?
He never said he would STAY in WAR he may leave wow for it but not like WAR and quit it. You presumed switching meant staying in WAR. The act of switching merely means he would try it.
You presumed he would come back to WoW as well which he didn't say.
What's this STAYING have to do with anything? I never said he'd stay anywhere just that he's prematurely making the call that he's going to quit wow for war. I've said it myself and although the plan looks great on paper all that all changes once you try the new game. Then there's nothing left but going back to the latest game that impressed you. It'll happen en masse.
well i just quit after about 3 years of play got 2 70s a lv 50 and lv 40- 70 lock 50 hunter 40 druid and another 70 rouge so who is gonna quit and who is gonna stay
A rhetorical and presumptuous question because, ONE, you can't know you're going to switch to war because you haven't tried it yet. TWO, like me and a lot of people, you got tired of wow for a minute but you'll be back. So many people will try war and be like omg and get more into wow seeing how much a game can suck.
You're being presumptuous by saying he will come back. I know I won't even if WAR is bad I'm done with WoW.
How do you know his situation?
He just said he was quitting WoW not that he would stay in WAR.
Did you even read the subject line?
Subject line: Who is gonna quit wow for another game like warhammer online
Did you?
He never said he would STAY in WAR he may leave wow for it but not like WAR and quit it. You presumed switching meant staying in WAR. The act of switching merely means he would try it.
You presumed he would come back to WoW as well which he didn't say.
What's this STAYING have to do with anything? I never said he'd stay anywhere just that he's prematurely making the call that he's going to quit wow for war. I've said it myself and although the plan looks great on paper all that all changes once you try the new game. Then there's nothing left but going back to the latest game that impressed you. It'll happen en masse.
Subject line: Who is gonna quit wow for another game like warhammer online
"you can't know you're going to switch to war because you haven't tried it yet"
This line means is asking who is going to try WAR and quit WOW, nothing more.
This line means who is switching to war and quitting WOW. Switching to WAR can be done when it comes out and pre-emtively thought about. So when it comes out, he tries WAR. By saying someone can't decide to switch because he hasn't tried it yet doesn't make sense because all switching entails is to stop playing WoW and buy WAR and try it when it comes out.
If you switch jobs and quit your job for another, you can be at the new job for any duration of time, you still switched jobs.
"Then there's nothing left but going back to the latest game that impressed you. It'll happen en masse. "
You don't have to go back to the latest game that impressed you especially if you're bored or don't like it anymore. I know lots of friends who tried AOC and never went back to WoW after. That again is a presumption. There's lots of things left to do like not playing MMORPGs, playing other console games/PC games etc.
I learned my lesson with AoC. I will not cancel my WoW subscription until a better game comes out or until the next Blizzard MMO releases. It will probably be the latter because I doubt Warhammer will be that great.
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I've been clean since 3 months after the launch TBC. I am looking forward to Warhammer and if the games turns out bad I'm looking toward Aion and Chronicles of Spellborn, maybe even WoTLK.
WAR will be easy to level also.....they want it that way because the most content is at 40
There's a difference between a game being easy to level and the game being easy across the board. Blizzard does a good job of holding your hand and herding you through the whole game, god forbid there is ever a penalty to your character for screwing up. That might make you quit. <sneeze> Oh hey I leveled up!
WAR on the other hand has an excuse for easy leveling, cause thats not all the game is. The game is RvR, the most successful form of PvP (and fun) to date. They want you in that action. Its real end game.
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Quit after playing already after about 2 years. Fun ride, but then got bored with WoW.
Waiting for WarHammer now.
When you rush through, you cheat yourself of all the stuff that you won't be able to go back to. Which is a problem that I had with AoC, the linear experience of the world. The only stuff waiting at the end are the capital city sieges- everything else is available all along and you are supposed to build on it as you get there.
___________________
Sadly, I see storm clouds on the horizon. A faint stench of Vanguard is in the air.-Kien
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/12/13/
When you rush through, you cheat yourself of all the stuff that you won't be able to go back to. Which is a problem that I had with AoC, the linear experience of the world. The only stuff waiting at the end are the capital city sieges- everything else is available all along and you are supposed to build on it as you get there.
I just wanna PvP, so levelling is incidental. If the PvP levelling is efficient enough I will probably use that route.
IM going with WAR and possibly GW2
You guys will be back. The end.
Well I wont be quiting WoW unless I can get my cousins to jump to another game with me. But I will try open beta for WAR and now that I built a new computer Im going to be playing Vanguard.
Quit just when they're releasing WotLK? What are you, drunk? and miss out on some good promising content, for a game that, from what I hear they're going to actually cut down professions/classes? (this confirmed by the WAR Beta testers, as well as the developers themselves.)
No thank you, I'm doing fine with WoW.
I won't. The end.
Thats fine that you are excited for WotLK. (worldofraids.com is a great site to get all the tidbits and info on it).
I would like to add that they did not cut out any profession. Yes, they did cut out 4 classes that they deemed weren't up to par to their expectations. That leaves 20 classes left in the game. WoW only has 9 classes (10 if you count the deathknight). They did also cut out 4 of the 6 major cities. But, they did this in Beta, and they also mentioned that they will eventually add the cut content once it undergoes more polish. Im just saying that its not like they broke or even crippled their game in anyway. If they had announced only 2 cities throughout the beta and 20 classes, would that change your opinion?
Not me I'll wait. I did that when AoC came out, but what a mistake that was.
Yeah a lot more people are being cautious after the AoC fiasco and they should be. Waiting a bit to see how the game does and whether it fulfuls all its promises may be the way to go.
In both war beta and wotlk beta(thanks to a friends account). All i can say is that being an avid pvper ican see absolutely no point in getting wotlk. WAR pvp is FUN(pve side ain't bad either), wotlk has me practically ripping my hair out in frustration... it is not a fun experience. Class balance is utterly fubar, even worse than it is in tbc. Yes i realise that it is still in beta but if it's anything like tbc beta then bar some minor changes and the rare last minute talent/ability drops we have at this stage got a pretty good view of what's to come.
WAR = fun. WotLK so far is frustrating at best in pvp and pve looks set to be as much of a grind as tbc (complete with the same 'lfm instance x - no class x or y' that we see with mgt now... thou this time it's not the dps shaman being cock blocked it's the magic user tanks).
Perhaps if i'd got myself a rogue i'd be gushing with praise over wotlk...
I'll probably never quit WoW unless Blizzard releases a better MMO. Even then, I'm sure I'd try to play both.
I've never understood people with countless alts. I've trouble enough focusing on 2 characters, and that's after 3.5 years of playing. One of them is exalted with just about everything except raid-only factions like Scales of Sands and Ashtongue.
Warhammer Online has been a letdown throughout my beta testing experiences, and I've been doing that for a year. Age of Conan was a big letdown. LotRO wasn't even that good.
Gamer by nature,
poet by heart.
A rhetorical and presumptuous question because, ONE, you can't know you're going to switch to war because you haven't tried it yet. TWO, like me and a lot of people, you got tired of wow for a minute but you'll be back. So many people will try war and be like omg and get more into wow seeing how much a game can suck.
A rhetorical and presumptuous question because, ONE, you can't know you're going to switch to war because you haven't tried it yet. TWO, like me and a lot of people, you got tired of wow for a minute but you'll be back. So many people will try war and be like omg and get more into wow seeing how much a game can suck.
You're being presumptuous by saying he will come back. I know I won't even if WAR is bad I'm done with WoW.
How do you know his situation?
He just said he was quitting WoW not that he would stay in WAR.
A rhetorical and presumptuous question because, ONE, you can't know you're going to switch to war because you haven't tried it yet. TWO, like me and a lot of people, you got tired of wow for a minute but you'll be back. So many people will try war and be like omg and get more into wow seeing how much a game can suck.
You're being presumptuous by saying he will come back. I know I won't even if WAR is bad I'm done with WoW.
How do you know his situation?
He just said he was quitting WoW not that he would stay in WAR.
Did you even read the subject line?
A rhetorical and presumptuous question because, ONE, you can't know you're going to switch to war because you haven't tried it yet. TWO, like me and a lot of people, you got tired of wow for a minute but you'll be back. So many people will try war and be like omg and get more into wow seeing how much a game can suck.
You're being presumptuous by saying he will come back. I know I won't even if WAR is bad I'm done with WoW.
How do you know his situation?
He just said he was quitting WoW not that he would stay in WAR.
Did you even read the subject line?
Subject line: Who is gonna quit wow for another game like warhammer online
Did you?
He never said he would STAY in WAR he may leave wow for it but not like WAR and quit it. You presumed switching meant staying in WAR. The act of switching merely means he would try it.
You presumed he would come back to WoW as well which he didn't say.
I already quit WoW for second time before 6 months. I think never will come back if WotLK do not offer nice world PvP, what WoW was promised on his release. Now WAR is what WoW was supposed to be...
Where themepark games try to hide that they are copying WOW, games like Mortal Online and Darkfall make no attempt to hide their inspiration
______\m/_____
LordOfDarkDesire
I quit WoW 5 months ago have no intention of playing it again just had my taste of the game and do not want anymore. Personally i like it better before the expansion.
I quit a couple months after TBC came out. That really ruined the game for me. Playing a Horde on a RP server was a riot and then TBC came out and the horde chat was ruined by horde-wannabe wankers.
Switched to LoTRO and been playing that happily for the last year+ but I am going to try War:) Love faction vs. faction action.
A rhetorical and presumptuous question because, ONE, you can't know you're going to switch to war because you haven't tried it yet. TWO, like me and a lot of people, you got tired of wow for a minute but you'll be back. So many people will try war and be like omg and get more into wow seeing how much a game can suck.
You're being presumptuous by saying he will come back. I know I won't even if WAR is bad I'm done with WoW.
How do you know his situation?
He just said he was quitting WoW not that he would stay in WAR.
Did you even read the subject line?
Subject line: Who is gonna quit wow for another game like warhammer online
Did you?
He never said he would STAY in WAR he may leave wow for it but not like WAR and quit it. You presumed switching meant staying in WAR. The act of switching merely means he would try it.
You presumed he would come back to WoW as well which he didn't say.
What's this STAYING have to do with anything? I never said he'd stay anywhere just that he's prematurely making the call that he's going to quit wow for war. I've said it myself and although the plan looks great on paper all that all changes once you try the new game. Then there's nothing left but going back to the latest game that impressed you. It'll happen en masse.
A rhetorical and presumptuous question because, ONE, you can't know you're going to switch to war because you haven't tried it yet. TWO, like me and a lot of people, you got tired of wow for a minute but you'll be back. So many people will try war and be like omg and get more into wow seeing how much a game can suck.
You're being presumptuous by saying he will come back. I know I won't even if WAR is bad I'm done with WoW.
How do you know his situation?
He just said he was quitting WoW not that he would stay in WAR.
Did you even read the subject line?
Subject line: Who is gonna quit wow for another game like warhammer online
Did you?
He never said he would STAY in WAR he may leave wow for it but not like WAR and quit it. You presumed switching meant staying in WAR. The act of switching merely means he would try it.
You presumed he would come back to WoW as well which he didn't say.
What's this STAYING have to do with anything? I never said he'd stay anywhere just that he's prematurely making the call that he's going to quit wow for war. I've said it myself and although the plan looks great on paper all that all changes once you try the new game. Then there's nothing left but going back to the latest game that impressed you. It'll happen en masse.
Subject line: Who is gonna quit wow for another game like warhammer online
"you can't know you're going to switch to war because you haven't tried it yet"
This line means is asking who is going to try WAR and quit WOW, nothing more.
This line means who is switching to war and quitting WOW. Switching to WAR can be done when it comes out and pre-emtively thought about. So when it comes out, he tries WAR. By saying someone can't decide to switch because he hasn't tried it yet doesn't make sense because all switching entails is to stop playing WoW and buy WAR and try it when it comes out.
If you switch jobs and quit your job for another, you can be at the new job for any duration of time, you still switched jobs.
"Then there's nothing left but going back to the latest game that impressed you. It'll happen en masse. "
You don't have to go back to the latest game that impressed you especially if you're bored or don't like it anymore. I know lots of friends who tried AOC and never went back to WoW after. That again is a presumption. There's lots of things left to do like not playing MMORPGs, playing other console games/PC games etc.
I learned my lesson with AoC. I will not cancel my WoW subscription until a better game comes out or until the next Blizzard MMO releases. It will probably be the latter because I doubt Warhammer will be that great.
Do you know for certain?