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LOL @ BadgerSmaker

TeknoBugTeknoBug Member UncommonPosts: 2,156

Taken from the thread "very low population on half the servers", Badgers' defense is "don't look at almost no one playing, look at how many are in the GCW!"...



Judging server population by the load indicator on the character selection screen gives you almost no real information. The best statistics we as players have is the GCW server stats.

While these stats are obviously not accurate due to only reporting players that are lieutenant rank or above, they do seem to reflect what players see on these servers in terms of population.

As for free transfers, SoE is focusing on helping players build and maintain their communities in game with tools such as the enhanced player search and looking at other ways to bring players together such as cross server instances.

At the same time, the character transfer is being improved with support for the unlocked character slot and no doubt more enhancements to come.

I don't see that free transfers will be something that SoE will provide, as this would further compound the problems on low population servers when what we need to do is keep and increase the people playing there.

On a personal note, I've levelled characters to CL90 on Infinity and TC-Prime, both would be classified as "low population" servers, but I was able to find people to play with and have a great time.

On a server like Kauri population is at a more critical point, I have suggested some form of incentives like double experience and GCW gain weekends but didn't hear back on those ideas.


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  • KazaraKazara Member UncommonPosts: 1,086

    BadgerSmaker has been banging the anti-transfer/anti-merger drum relentlessly. Before he was unceremoniously dismissed as GP Senator at the end of his term, he started a 'focus'  thread about the population imbalance issue where he continued to bang his drum over the vast majority wanting transfers or merges,  Of course, he thought his cool, new LFG tool would be the salvation of the ghost servers but those pathetic servers are as dead as ever.  I can't understand why he is so bent on preventing players from getting the free transfers and/or merges they want....what difference is it to him if other players get the opportunity to enjoy a server that actually has a healthy population? 

    He seems to believe his ideas and views of the game are superior to all others and warrants the immediate attention and action by the devs.  Believing that the dead servers have a viable playerbase does not make it reality, nor do the GCW numbers accurately reflect population numbers.

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  • TeknoBugTeknoBug Member UncommonPosts: 2,156

    I've seen Badgers for years on the SWG forums (since before when he was a pistoleer correspondent) and today he's an entirely different person than he was 2+ years ago, it's almost convincing that he's being PAID to be like this.

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  • ValeranValeran Member Posts: 925

    He still believes that the holy search tool is a population fix and fails to realize the problem is that there are NO PLAYERS.

    Worse now that the vet trials are done.

    Hell...I bet there is another vet trial within the next month or 2.

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  • ArcAngel3ArcAngel3 Member Posts: 2,931

    Re. the server populations.  I still remember reading the summit notes over a year ago now, where Mr. Smedley himself asked players what they really thought the game needed.  The majority of the players at the summit said, "server mergers!"  Smed's answer?  Yes the game badly needs server mergers, and we're going to fast track them.

    Some people, though I'm not sure why at this point, no doubt believed him, rejoiced, and paid for more subscription time in light of the "good news."

    Well I'm pretty sure a year has passed, or more, at this point.  What's SOE saying now?  It seems to me they're saying, "nope no server mergers, in fact the players don't actually want them."  I guess they mean Badgersmacker.   I also guess that Smed's word to all those in attendance at the summits didn't mean shinola. 

  • MathosMathos Member Posts: 897
    Originally posted by ArcAngel3


    Re. the server populations.  I still remember reading the summit notes over a year ago now, where Mr. Smedley himself asked players what they really thought the game needed.  The majority of the players at the summit said, "server mergers!"  Smed's answer?  Yes the game badly needs server mergers, and we're going to fast track them.
    Some people, though I'm not sure why at this point, no doubt believed him, rejoiced, and paid for more subscription time in light of the "good news."
    Well I'm pretty sure a year has passed, or more, at this point.  What's SOE saying now?  It seems to me they're saying, "nope no server mergers, in fact the players don't actually want them."  I guess they mean Badgersmacker.   I also guess that Smed's word to all those in attendance at the summits didn't mean shinola. 

     

    Smeds word lol thats funny.

     

  • Esquire1980Esquire1980 Member UncommonPosts: 568

    Badgetool thinks he's a dev, or thought so.  Quite a while ago, Badger took whatever the devs said to be his personal opinion.

    That blew up in his face when he talked devs into nerfing the spawn rate.  He made a big post of

    "I have more to do",  " I did this this for......". and several other "I's" in the post.  Fisher and I called him on it and the community picked it up rather fast.  Even tho he had his little "mod" friends delete posts as fast as they could push a button.

    Even SOE Austin had to figure this was just laughable and canned him.

  • firefly2003firefly2003 Member UncommonPosts: 2,527

    If you remember also he started insulting the fraction of the playerbase that AFK grinds thier toons and grind for junk, collections etc, all credit farmers and started this little crusade about anti-afk threads along with some other followers which lasted about a week and was squashed by the community cause they was tired of hearing the whole AFK issue.. then Badgerbanger brought up the whole nerfing spawn rates cause of credit farmers.. which in reality its just easier to identify a credit farmer and thier behaviors and slap the banstick and remove them from the game than just nerfing spawns rates crippling the powerbit business driving prices skyhigh once again...

     

    Im quite glad BadgerBanger has been removed from the Senate, it seemed he was just a tool to the devs and tried to force his vison of the game and his playstyle onto others and it didnt work.......


  • ValeranValeran Member Posts: 925
    Originally posted by firefly2003



    Im quite glad BadgerBanger has been removed from the Senate, it seemed he was just a tool to the devs and tried to force his vison of the game and his playstyle onto others and it didnt work.......

     

    That is exactly his MO.

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  • SuvrocSuvroc Member Posts: 2,383

    Anyone know how long he's been a correspondent/senator, and when exactly he left the senate?

  • WhiskeyRiverWhiskeyRiver Member Posts: 41

    Let's not forget how he got Smuggler turned into Pistoleer when the expertise came out screwing over Smugglers who didn't use pistols.  Pretty much changed the Smuggler community at that point from a group focused on getting smuggling into the game to a group of Pistoleers focused on Smuggler combat abilities that continues to this day.

  • KazaraKazara Member UncommonPosts: 1,086
    Originally posted by firefly2003


    If you remember also he started insulting the fraction of the playerbase that AFK grinds thier toons and grind for junk, collections etc, all credit farmers and started this little crusade about anti-afk threads along with some other followers which lasted about a week and was squashed by the community cause they was tired of hearing the whole AFK issue.. then Badgerbanger brought up the whole nerfing spawn rates cause of credit farmers.. which in reality its just easier to identify a credit farmer and thier behaviors and slap the banstick and remove them from the game than just nerfing spawns rates crippling the powerbit business driving prices skyhigh once again...
     
    Im quite glad BadgerBanger has been removed from the Senate, it seemed he was just a tool to the devs and tried to force his vison of the game and his playstyle onto others and it didnt work.......



     

    Ah yes, we mustn't over look his anti-AFK Declartion thread that ended up locked. He and a few others were insulting and flaming posters voicing any pro-AFK opinions, which resulted in the first lock. He obviously must have cried to the mods to unlock his topic, because after the deletion of several posts, it was up again. Needless to say, the post went south again....he went as far as to tell players how to grief AFK players in detail and he would enlist the aid of GMs if needed.  The thread ended up soundly locked for good. He then started to cut and paste his anti-AFK declaration iinto every thead he could hi-jack. He then just posted  a topic with part of his 'declaration' regarding on how to 'fix' issues that lead to AFK game play . It seems to be a dead thread, as most are sick and tired of his 'badgering'.

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  • Osprey22Osprey22 Member UncommonPosts: 42

    Screw Badger and the horse he rode in on. Reminds me of Smed. Just go fucking play WoW Obraik and Badger  and let this PoS game die now, :)

  • MathosMathos Member Posts: 897

    hes no longer in the senate rofl wow really wow i may resub lol nah just kidding about the resub

  • TeknoBugTeknoBug Member UncommonPosts: 2,156


    Originally posted by WhiskeyRiver
    Let's not forget how he got Smuggler turned into Pistoleer when the expertise came out screwing over Smugglers who didn't use pistols. Pretty much changed the Smuggler community at that point from a group focused on getting smuggling into the game to a group of Pistoleers focused on Smuggler combat abilities that continues to this day.
    Yeah and he even once said "pistols is better than ever!" after the smuggler revamp a few months ago, omg the current smuggler pistol abilities don't even compare to pre-CU/CU pistoleer/smuggler/BH pistol abilities, back then I was able to do as much damage as a rifleman could thanks to pistoleer higher damage modifier (pistoleer was 5x while rifleman was like 2.5x) but now it takes too long to kill something with a pistol! How I so miss my old Krayted 700 dmg sliced DE-10, the P-8 is the best gun now and is still a joke.


    Also yeah I LOL about Badgers no longer being a GPD senate, good for him.

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  • RazotRazot Member Posts: 81
    Originally posted by Osprey22


    Screw Badger and the horse he rode in on. Reminds me of Smed. Just go fucking play WoW Obraik and Badger  and let this PoS game die now, :)



     

    look man i dont like WoW either but it keeps all the kiddies out of a few other games i wont mention atm :), and to push Badger and Obraik (Aka Matt N_Z i think) on them hell they might even corrupt some little kids who could just be lost and confused like most teenagers and  they might start looking up to them and when those kids grow up they will bring massive amounts of Death and Misery to the free thinking people of the world.......

    Nah man the world needs SWG NGE version.. its like an online roach motel.

     

  • GutboyGutboy Member Posts: 630
    Originally posted by sookster54


     

    Originally posted by WhiskeyRiver

    Let's not forget how he got Smuggler turned into Pistoleer when the expertise came out screwing over Smugglers who didn't use pistols. Pretty much changed the Smuggler community at that point from a group focused on getting smuggling into the game to a group of Pistoleers focused on Smuggler combat abilities that continues to this day.
    Yeah and he even once said "pistols is better than ever!" after the smuggler revamp a few months ago, omg the current smuggler pistol abilities don't even compare to pre-CU/CU pistoleer/smuggler/BH pistol abilities, back then I was able to do as much damage as a rifleman could thanks to pistoleer higher damage modifier (pistoleer was 5x while rifleman was like 2.5x) but now it takes too long to kill something with a pistol! How I so miss my old Krayted 700 dmg sliced DE-10, the P-8 is the best gun now and is still a joke.

     



    Also yeah I LOL about Badgers no longer being a GPD senate, good for him.

    ROFL, you have zero concept of the smuggler in the game today. A smuggler today can destroy another player in 4 to 5 seconds. With a pistol. And that was before GU5 which made all player crafted weapons so far superior to any looted weapon.

     

    We have a smuggler in my guild who "hunts" bounty hunters. He has a large bounty on himself and he waits at different starports for a bounty hunter to shuttle in, does a bounty check on himself to see if that bounty hunter has his mission. If the BH does have his mission he uses the new shoot first expertise and within a few seconds the BH is dead.

    Smuggler is now like spy a alpha strike machine, huge spike damage.

  • KazaraKazara Member UncommonPosts: 1,086
    Originally posted by Suvroc


    Anyone know how long he's been a correspondent/senator, and when exactly he left the senate?



     

    He was replaced a couple of weeks back by the old Commando Senator, MasterCosmos. Badger's term was up and the powers-that-be chose not to let him continue with another term, although he explicitly made it clear that he wanted to. While the position of Senator is made up mostly of Yes-Men eager to spout the company line, Badger's position as senator was essentially self-serving and allowed him to push his own agenda over all others. $OE was wise to dump this chump.

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  • TeknoBugTeknoBug Member UncommonPosts: 2,156


    Originally posted by Gutboy
    Originally posted by sookster54

    Originally posted by WhiskeyRiver
    Let's not forget how he got Smuggler turned into Pistoleer when the expertise came out screwing over Smugglers who didn't use pistols. Pretty much changed the Smuggler community at that point from a group focused on getting smuggling into the game to a group of Pistoleers focused on Smuggler combat abilities that continues to this day.
    Yeah and he even once said "pistols is better than ever!" after the smuggler revamp a few months ago, omg the current smuggler pistol abilities don't even compare to pre-CU/CU pistoleer/smuggler/BH pistol abilities, back then I was able to do as much damage as a rifleman could thanks to pistoleer higher damage modifier (pistoleer was 5x while rifleman was like 2.5x) but now it takes too long to kill something with a pistol! How I so miss my old Krayted 700 dmg sliced DE-10, the P-8 is the best gun now and is still a joke.

    Also yeah I LOL about Badgers no longer being a GPD senate, good for him.



    ROFL, you have zero concept of the smuggler in the game today. A smuggler today can destroy another player in 4 to 5 seconds. With a pistol. And that was before GU5 which made all player crafted weapons so far superior to any looted weapon.

    We have a smuggler in my guild who "hunts" bounty hunters. He has a large bounty on himself and he waits at different starports for a bounty hunter to shuttle in, does a bounty check on himself to see if that bounty hunter has his mission. If the BH does have his mission he uses the new shoot first expertise and within a few seconds the BH is dead.
    Smuggler is now like spy a alpha strike machine, huge spike damage.

    Nah I still think melee > pistol in smuggler, I tried both setups. Yes the shoot first is pretty sick but that's exclusive to BHs that has your bounty, and pistol whip is usable with melee too which is good against Jedi.


    Also it took longer to take down a Black Sun with pistols (unbuffed) than it did with melee, /shrug.

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  • ValeranValeran Member Posts: 925
    Originally posted by Gutboy

    Originally posted by sookster54


     

    Originally posted by WhiskeyRiver

    Let's not forget how he got Smuggler turned into Pistoleer when the expertise came out screwing over Smugglers who didn't use pistols. Pretty much changed the Smuggler community at that point from a group focused on getting smuggling into the game to a group of Pistoleers focused on Smuggler combat abilities that continues to this day.
    Yeah and he even once said "pistols is better than ever!" after the smuggler revamp a few months ago, omg the current smuggler pistol abilities don't even compare to pre-CU/CU pistoleer/smuggler/BH pistol abilities, back then I was able to do as much damage as a rifleman could thanks to pistoleer higher damage modifier (pistoleer was 5x while rifleman was like 2.5x) but now it takes too long to kill something with a pistol! How I so miss my old Krayted 700 dmg sliced DE-10, the P-8 is the best gun now and is still a joke.

     



    Also yeah I LOL about Badgers no longer being a GPD senate, good for him.

    ROFL, you have zero concept of the smuggler in the game today. A smuggler today can destroy another player in 4 to 5 seconds. With a pistol. And that was before GU5 which made all player crafted weapons so far superior to any looted weapon.

     

    We have a smuggler in my guild who "hunts" bounty hunters. He has a large bounty on himself and he waits at different starports for a bounty hunter to shuttle in, does a bounty check on himself to see if that bounty hunter has his mission. If the BH does have his mission he uses the new shoot first expertise and within a few seconds the BH is dead.

    Smuggler is now like spy a alpha strike machine, huge spike damage.

     

    Still can't actually smuggle though.  ;)

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  • efefiaefefia Member Posts: 631
    Originally posted by Valeran


     
    Still can't actually smuggle though.  ;)



     

    The ability to "wtfpwn!" is much more important to NGE players                

    ...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought.

  • GutboyGutboy Member Posts: 630
    Originally posted by efefia

    Originally posted by Valeran


     
    Still can't actually smuggle though.  ;)



     

    The ability to "wtfpwn!" is much more important to NGE players                



     

    I was responding to the poster who said that smugglers are gimped in combat. So by your statement it appears that you think pre-cu players did not think it was important to have an advantage in combat?

     

  • efefiaefefia Member Posts: 631
    Originally posted by Gutboy

    Originally posted by efefia

    Originally posted by Valeran


     
    Still can't actually smuggle though.  ;)



     

    The ability to "wtfpwn!" is much more important to NGE players                



     

    I was responding to the poster who said that smugglers are gimped in combat. So by your statement it appears that you think pre-cu players did not think it was important to have an advantage in combat?

     



     

    Funny, I don't recall drawing any comparrisons, oh wait that's because I didn't.

    ...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought.

  • TeknoBugTeknoBug Member UncommonPosts: 2,156

    Yeah pistols is awesome, when you get "crits for 21 damage (0 kinetic 21 acid)" over and over in pvp, the one trick pony shoot first in ONE situation is why you say pistols rock? :)


    Here's an old thread to why Badgers' view is a bit messed up:
    http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?&topic_id=677743

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  • TzimiscechiTzimiscechi Member Posts: 230

     

    Geez - reading the mean, antisocial responses to a simple comment makes me even happier I don't play SWG anymore.

     

  • HozloffHozloff Member Posts: 193
    Originally posted by Kazara

    Originally posted by Suvroc


    Anyone know how long he's been a correspondent/senator, and when exactly he left the senate?



     

    He was replaced a couple of weeks back by the old Commando Senator, MasterCosmos. Badger's term was up and the powers-that-be chose not to let him continue with another term, although he explicitly made it clear that he wanted to. While the position of Senator is made up mostly of Yes-Men eager to spout the company line, Badger's position as senator was essentially self-serving and allowed him to push his own agenda over all others. $OE was wise to dump this chump.



     

    I am curious why he did not even get the "blue glowie" status former senators do.

    MasterCosmo is just as bad in my opinion, he will preach SOE's lies to no end if he can. He is just not as experienced as Badgerbanger, but give him time.

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