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Why are people saying that graphics matter?
Look at Runescape. It may still be a browser game but it just recently broke the world record for most popular free MMORPG of all time. Hell it even has over 200k active subscriptions. It brings in millions a month. I don't know why people say graphics matter so much.
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there alot of gfx whores out there
Because for every person that likes Runescape, there's probably 10 that don't because of it's graphics.
Edit: Darkfall will be a niche game anyways and the people who play it are the type of gamers who don't care as much about graphics, that's fine.
and the gameplay is ultimate #$%^
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its not the low polygon count that bugs me. its just that the models,animation and sound are just ugly.
thats why i cant stand vanguard
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Would have played it had the graphics been nicer.
You think they wouldve had time to make em a bit better in 7 years or however long.
and the gameplay is ultimate #$%^
Not for young kids who use it as their first MMO. Well, actually, it's not that bad of a first MMO for anyone back in the day, though they're targetting kids now. There was always something to do (even if it was a grind - when you play your first MMO you really don't know what a "grind" is, you just see it as working for something worthwhile). And combat was crappy, sure, but until I left for DAoC I had no idea what else was out there.
There IS a reason it has so many accounts!
Let's get real here. There is NO WAY that Darkfall could function with large battles and static seige events with AoC-type graphics. I think after 7 years this development team, which obviously has talent, could have come up with better graphics if they chose to.
I will gladly sacrifice from incredible graphics to decent graphics if the game runs smoothly and fairly lag-free.
But there is no way this game can do all they want it to do with top of the line graphics, no way. It's amazing enough that it is 100% skill-based and has such a large world map. I'm glad the graphics are as good as they are. They aren't much below Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, and those were just fine for me.
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With the increase in technology, gamers are seeking titles with more of an aesthetic appeal. Its always been that way. People want the next big thing; if not just to look at it for curiositys sake. If the game plays to the persons liking then they end up sticking around. Its not that graphics matter; but, they have a certain allure to gamers looking for something new and up to date.
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo Galilei
Graphics matter. That doesn't mean we want lots and lots of polygons. It's just that, graphics do matter. I liked much more the 2d graphics for Runescape. And the models before Luclin in EQ. It's not the complexity, it's a well designed graphic style that matters.
and its only medium settings
Who knows what rez they are using and if the graphic settings are on high or not, its only the beta client and a lot of games dont have all the animations on. I remember the AoC betta didnt have the blood splatter on till retail and WoW didnt have the water animations on till they went into beta, so I think wait and see what they will be once we get our hands on it.
because its the same people in this thread and forum fans of Darkfall who come over to games like WAR and say the graphics suck even though they are on low and keep touting it? can't have your cake and eat it too :P
graphics do matter to an extent you want to enjoy looking at what you play too. I've seen better free to play game graphics than what was shown on the df video.
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Graphics to me have never really mattered. What really matters of course is gameplay. But here's the thing. When I play games like DaoC or even some of the older f2p titles like Runescape, the graphics fit the game and the time it was issued in. Now as for Darkfall, the gameplay looks decent. The graphics on the other hand don't fit with a game that should be debuting in 2008/2009. Regardless of gameplay, the graphics should fit the era. Making them resemble less, not only makes investors cringe, but also shows a lack in your game engine. With todays standerds, a game should be able to be marketed as not only a nice looking game, but with great gameplay. But things that SHOULD happen never usually do. If we lived in a world were computers were cheaper than rent, then maybe we would see games that fit both roles. But with a huge gap in lower to higher end machine, we get what we get basically. I say in 5-10 years, when more people have computers that are higher quality, we may see better looking and playing games. But by then they will be dated also. What we are stuck in is a cycle and we probably won't ever ketch up.
so have I but there not for massive battles either in a fps setting and there ussly high settings not medium like the vid was. theny ou have fraps and compression degration to account for
There is a certain minimum for graphics where it makes a difference, I bet Darkfall hits that minimum but the graphics in the trailer probably did not. They are only slightly better than EQ/SB and that is just sad in this day and age. I bet the reality is better than that with full graphics enabled etc.
from what i understand the game has a huge settings diffrence to make sure most systems can play it with decent frames. guess we will have to see.
im afraid of what low will look like
this game is suppose to be vaporware... in other words.. nothing, they just push in this video to hype a bit more and keep the vapor away from dissipating
lol at saying the graphics in DF are even close to EQ....you really are just baffling people if you really mean that. Trolling maybe? Maybe you meant eq2?
Here is a rando google image i found of EQ:
And here is a random google image of DF:
Spare me the "oh those are different situations". Sorry but your arguement is so far off base i cant be bothered to find similar screenshots of characters in similar actions or similar landscapes, just googled and pasted cause it was easy.
darkfall graphics are fine. PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE by today's standards. I didnt realize that we went through a major graphic change in the industry in last 2 years, so im not sure why people are saying this would have been impressive if it released in 2006. If you dont like the graphics fine, dont play. If you need a reason to bash this game to satisfy yourself, there are far more convincing arguements you could make.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
self ownage is always fun to watch. (not talkin about DF since you probably need some clarification).
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals/javaw_2006_11_27_20_52_02_91
http://internetgames.about.com/library/screen/nshadbanescr06.htm
Sure maybe the EQ was a bit extreme but the basic graphics are not that much more advanced than say SB and certainly doesn't compare to lesser graphical new games like WAR.
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/screenshots/Chaos-ZE_MA_andMR-01.jpg
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could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
yea we dont know what settings that is
defently isnt high. well character models are way better than sb and the gfx all around are a tad better
Ive been playing games pretty much my whole life and I believe graphics are just as important as gameplay. If I wanted to play some game with shitty graphics I might as well play an older game instead of a new one.
Yes im a graphics whore, eye candy is a wonderful thing, it brings more imersion into a game. So if a game that has great game play but shitty graphics. The game play will make the graphics more barable. Just as a game that has great graphics but the gameplay is a bit lacking the graphics will make the gameplay a bit more barable.
Now to make a really good game you need a balance of both. Like for example WoW, its not the best graphics its not the worst, its not the best game play but its not the worst either. Its an all around game and thats why its so sucsessful. I actually prefer WoWs graphics over Darkfall's. IDK DF graphics are funky to me, character models are just weird looking to me. Its kinda hard to explain but something just isn't right.