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Ellingsen claims AoC currently have 400.000+ players

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  • jaxsundanejaxsundane Member Posts: 2,776
    Originally posted by MoLoK_


    "We now have over 400.000 active players"

     
     
    Said 4th of september 2008 by Erling Ellingsen.
     
    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/191/view/videos/play/1288
     
    About 1:20 in the interview.
     
    Can this be true?



     

    I did hear that but believe somewhere right before or after he snuck in a comment about at launch I'm certainly going to check again though.

    but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....

  • jaxsundanejaxsundane Member Posts: 2,776

    "i love the anti fc reactions, its obvious all who left aoc now arent playing anything"

    How is that so obvious? You seem to like the game and you found the time to post right?

    " so they get bored and organise themselves on forums, beating the crap out of the game who crushed their dreams that they would play something nice again since every mmo supposedly sucks nowadays :)"

    Maybe it's really that some people are angry and feel burned by Funcom what they did in most industries is illegal and I believe the nature of technologies and laws governing it are the only reason that companies like SOE and FC get away with it. And so far in this entire thread and many anti and pro aoc forums I've read the onlyperson I can remember with certainty saying every mmo sucks nowadays is you :)

    but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384
    Originally posted by 3on1


    i love the anti fc reactions, its obvious all who left aoc now arent playing anything so they get bored and organise themselves on forums, beating the crap out of the game who crushed their dreams that they would play something nice again since every mmo supposedly sucks nowadays :)

    it doesnt take having to live in a dumpster to tell you a dumpster is a pretty dirty place to eat out of.

     

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • MoLoK_MoLoK_ Member UncommonPosts: 307

    The thing is Ellingsen isnt saying:

     

    "We had 400k+ active players Q2" or "Last time I checked our active players there where 400k+ of them"

     

    he says

    "We now have over 400.000 active players"

     

    Now as on that very day. Not 2 or 3 months ago. Lets not debate what "now" means. The only question here is what "active players" mean.

    Is it an active account? (meaning the owner of that account COULD possibly log in this very moment and play)

    Is an "active player" just a toon on an "active account"? If every active account have, say 5 toons created on them does that mean that the paying subs for AoC is about 80.000? Didnt LOTRO do that trick sometime?

  • Lobbyboy69Lobbyboy69 Member Posts: 201

    There is probably about 150k Active subscribers left at a guess. When War and WOTLK are released this will drop to about 80k.

    Would anyone reading this like to dispute it....fanboys/community reps/ Famine?

     

    Bet you dont =]

  • serpentisserpentis Member Posts: 17

    They unfortunetly got a couple months of my subscription money.  I gotta say, the graphics were nice, but other than that...  it was pretty much garbage. 

     

  • AntaranAntaran Member Posts: 579

    sorry if it's been stated before as i skipped some posts with being tired (1:34am now).

    I have to say that 400,000 could be a correct figure, they'll take into account ALL regions, not just one region (EU/US etc)

    I pre ordered the game and levelled a Conqueror upto 52 before cancelling my sub due to boredom, the only real difference in the game is the background story/theme and the combat system..  really bummed out that i wasted £35 on buying the game and paying for a months sub to see non of the original ideas/content that i was looking forward to implimented.

  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726
    Originally posted by MoLoK_


    "We now have over 400.000 active players"

     
     
    Said 4th of september 2008 by Erling Ellingsen.
     
    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/191/view/videos/play/1288
     
    About 1:20 in the interview.
     
    Can this be true?



     

    Flat out lie is all it is.  Look at any of the sites that track numbers, they all have AoC at around 200k now.  Go play the game the servers are empty.  You think 3/4 of the playerbase is suscribing and not playing?  Yeah, I don't think that either.   It is a shame, I thought better of Funcom, but the lies they have resorted to with this game is just unforgivable.

  • valkyrieUKvalkyrieUK Member Posts: 39

    In my opinion this is the simple truth of dealing with the Idiot Erling - You know he is lying because his lips are moving.

  • MalthrosMalthros Member Posts: 239
    Originally posted by 3on1


    i love the anti fc reactions, its obvious all who left aoc now arent playing anything so they get bored and organise themselves on forums, beating the crap out of the game who crushed their dreams that they would play something nice again since every mmo supposedly sucks nowadays :)

     

    I'm playing unhealthy amounts of TF2 and currently replacing the old DOS AD&D games on and off with Blue Dragon when I have free time, AoC was fun until about level 25-30, ok until the mid 40s, meh until the mid 50s, was wondering why I was still playing while I did the armor quests when I hit 60, crafted a blue plate set for my guardian, and got to 62 before I decided they could keep the remaining month of game time since I'd forgot to cancel before it auto charged me.

     

    Oh, and someone needs to teach Funcom the difference between Plate Mail armor and Full Plate Mail armor.  Metal shorts/skirts and armbands are not Full Plate armor.  If you can see skin, it's not full plate.

  • lumachelumache Member Posts: 314
    Originally posted by Lobbyboy69


    There is probably about 150k Active subscribers left at a guess. When War and WOTLK are released this will drop to about 80k.
    Would anyone reading this like to dispute it....fanboys/community reps/ Famine?
     
    Bet you dont =]



     

    I dspute this post!

     

     

     

    150k is WAY TOO HIGH and I havent logged on since I was banned from the forums about 1 month ago. This estimate is WAY OVER true numbers! I have no evidence, AT ALL, to back this up other than chat was dead and I couldnt find a group to save my life! Maybe it was my server, maybe it was the time of day I played, maybe it was that I live an alternatew universe called THE REAL FRIKKING WORLD! Maybe it was cause the stars of the pleadies constellation were not aligned correctly..... OR:

    Maybe after playing MMO's for almost 10 years, I know when a sever is dead, regardless of what fanbois want to tell me while their busy verbally fellating whatever game company they happen to be in love with on any given day.  Case in point about FANBOIS - Protus-AOC - hes gotta be a paid poster!  Or perhaps hes just the dumbest person ever to have enough free time to claim he plays game all the while making 50+ posts per day in FUNCOMS favor every single day!  Either way I cant take this oxygen thief seriously.

    -Lum

  • ethionethion Member UncommonPosts: 2,888

    wow 400K active users all enjoying the steak of MMOs....

    Wonder what else he will say next!!

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    Ethion

  • UnfinishedUnfinished Member Posts: 881

    I am waiting for him to tell us he  weighs 165 lbs.

  • afoaaafoaa Member UncommonPosts: 578

    The 415k number was the officual subscriber number on June 30 in their financial report to their shareholders.

    Its the latest official sub number and they will keep on using it until their next financial report is released on November 15 where they are forced to make their september 30 subscriber numbers official.

    "You are the hero our legends have foretold will save our tribe, therefore please go kill 10 pigs."

  • Jefferson81Jefferson81 Member Posts: 730
    Originally posted by MoLoK_


    "We now have over 400.000 active players"

     
     
    Said 4th of september 2008 by Erling Ellingsen.
     
    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/191/view/videos/play/1288
     
    About 1:20 in the interview.
     
    Can this be true?



     

    No, it's not true.

    I would guesstimate 200k active subs at the most.

  • AlexanderTDAlexanderTD Member Posts: 97

    Well, AOC sure isn't perfect, but i'm still playing it till some expansion, because i see no alternative.

    I won't play any MMORPG with less complex combat system or worse graphics than AOC has. I believe AOC's quality of interaction/animation/graphics is as close to offline game as it gets today and i  simply ignore everything with "clicking" combat, without directional attacks/combos/stances and stuff.

    Warhammer is just warcraft clone with graphics/animation/physics just as ugly. Combat system suck - i'd get bored in hour. Cartoonish graphics. No economy.

    AION - ugly graphics, simple combat system (more clicking), poor animation. Flying is nice, but it's a toy for couple of hours.

    I'd appriciate if anyone could point some "quality" game coming out this/next year or AOC is probably the last MMO i played for now.

    The only MMO that pushes it's genre ahead is EVE online- at least for space simulation it has a lot. All other genres look like games of 90-s' at most. If AOC gets "banned" from MMO industry then quality it's bringing will die too, leaving only childish "clickers" with poor graphics.

  • altair4altair4 Member Posts: 158
    Originally posted by AlexanderTD


    Well, AOC sure isn't perfect, but i'm still playing it till some expansion, because i see no alternative.
    I won't play any MMORPG with less complex combat system or worse graphics than AOC has. I believe AOC's quality of interaction/animation/graphics is as close to offline game as it gets today and i  simply ignore everything with "clicking" combat, without directional attacks/combos/stances and stuff.
    Warhammer is just warcraft clone with graphics/animation/physics just as ugly. Combat system suck - i'd get bored in hour. Cartoonish graphics. No economy.
    AION - ugly graphics, simple combat system (more clicking), poor animation. Flying is nice, but it's a toy for couple of hours.
    I'd appriciate if anyone could point some "quality" game coming out this/next year or AOC is probably the last MMO i played for now.
    The only MMO that pushes it's genre ahead is EVE online- at least for space simulation it has a lot. All other genres look like games of 90-s' at most. If AOC gets "banned" from MMO industry then quality it's bringing will die too, leaving only childish "clickers" with poor graphics.



     

    There is a simple reason why most MMO games dont have top of the line graphics. namely because its an MMO game where you want to have alot of people at same place at same time. That's the whole idea with it and obviously you wont have a big procent of players with top of the line computers that can manage that gfx in a crowded environment. And there is not a single game, mmo or singleplayer that is good just cause it has good graphics.

    And saying WoW and Warhammer is same thing cause they use similar graphics is just dumb. It's like saying every single game that uses the Unreal engine is same game as Unreal. You are doing game companies a big service by buying games cause of graphics. Then they can just focus on that and ignore gameplay and rest of the things. Show some fancy screenshots, hype the game, then sell alot of copies, eventhough its pure crap.

    First time i played WoW I absolutely hated the graphics. Cant say I like em very much now either, but they are pretty straightforward at least and high detail objects in ie. EQ2 can look alot shittier. Now I rather they release games with yesterdays graphics and that the engine itself works flawless on just about every computer that is from maybe 3 years old, except the lowest budged crap gfx cards and such.

  • AzrileAzrile Member Posts: 2,582
    Originally posted by afoaa


    The 415k number was the officual subscriber number on June 30 in their financial report to their shareholders.
    Its the latest official sub number and they will keep on using it until their next financial report is released on November 15 where they are forced to make their september 30 subscriber numbers official.

     

    You are half-right.   The 415k number is the only official number ever given from June 30.  They will continue to quote that number the same way Blizzard quotes the 10.9M number they released in May.    Until a new number is official given, the 415k will keep being used.

    However, you are wrong about the second part.   Funcom has already announced that they will NOT be releasing subscription numbers at the end of the 3Q.   Subscription numbers are not a number that is required by the SEC.

    And finally, use the word Customers instead of subscribers.   Funcom has NEVER released their subscriber numbers, all they released was their 'customers' which included a lot of people that other companies would never include.

  • Litigator_ABLitigator_AB Member Posts: 311
    Originally posted by Azrile

    Originally posted by afoaa


    The 415k number was the officual subscriber number on June 30 in their financial report to their shareholders.
    Its the latest official sub number and they will keep on using it until their next financial report is released on November 15 where they are forced to make their september 30 subscriber numbers official.

     

    You are half-right.   The 415k number is the only official number ever given from June 30.  They will continue to quote that number the same way Blizzard quotes the 10.9M number they released in May.    Until a new number is official given, the 415k will keep being used.

    However, you are wrong about the second part.   Funcom has already announced that they will NOT be releasing subscription numbers at the end of the 3Q.   Subscription numbers are not a number that is required by the SEC.

    And finally, use the word Customers instead of subscribers.   Funcom has NEVER released their subscriber numbers, all they released was their 'customers' which included a lot of people that other companies would never include.

    Although Azrile and I disagree on the 415k customer date (he believes it is June 30th I believe it is August 14th) I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of the post.  Funcom's customer number is fuzzy and they must think their customer base is a bunch of fools if they believe we can't parse the numbers from Funcom's Q3 revenue report. 

    They are equally foolish if they don't think it will be even easier with the Q4 report.  Q3 will be tricky as you are dealing with July subscriptions.  July subscription numbers could have been quite solid and will create the illusion that the situation is not bad.  They will not be able to hide the loss of revenue in Q4...which is why they also said they would not offer revenue guidance again either.

    Lit

  • ed515ed515 Member Posts: 67
    Originally posted by Deto123


    . As much as it pains me to say anything on this game anymore, because frankly i m bored on anything AOC. I ll say this, how many times had EE lied before, i think that sums it up.

     

    pretty much.

  • AlexanderTDAlexanderTD Member Posts: 97
    Originally posted by altair4


    1.There is a simple reason why most MMO games dont have top of the line graphics. namely because its an MMO game where you want to have alot of people at same place at same time.
    ...
    2. And saying WoW and Warhammer is same thing cause they use similar graphics is just dumb. It's like saying every single game that uses the Unreal engine is same game as Unreal. You are doing game companies a big service by buying games cause of graphics. Then they can just focus on that and ignore gameplay and rest of the things.
    ...
    3.First time i played WoW I absolutely hated the graphics. Cant say I like em very much now either, but they are pretty straightforward at least and high detail objects in ie. EQ2 can look alot shittier. Now I rather they release games with yesterdays graphics and that the engine itself works flawless on just about every computer that is from maybe 3 years old, except the lowest budged crap gfx cards and such.

     

    1. MMOs as genre have nothing to do with bad graphics. Characters/ships etc - consist of quite few polygons/details compared to overal picture (world). I played EVE online almost since the release - most of it's graphics are ships themselves and even siting with 200 ppl on POS i never experienced slowdown BECAUSE of graphics (even on older gfx)- it all lagged because of server.

    Poor graphics is result of hunger for $. Because there are lot of ppl who have (for reasons unknown) bad computers and still play WOW 24/7 - high system requirements would scare them away.

    Unless you're casual player - you have good enough hardware to run thing you dedicating a good deal of your life to.If you don't - i don't know why you bother with games at all. Ppl who spend hours every day playing, pay for subscription cannot afford 500$ computer? 200$ videocard that can run WOW, WO, L2, AIONE at the same time?

    2. Why not? Name those differences, maybe i'm wrong, but gameplay/combat looks pretty much same to me. Also graphics is very cartoonish too, no blood and stuff... ideas about PVP makes it better than WOW though.

    3. Nope. Graphics is just my requirement. Then i look into gameplay. Gameplay is essential. Graphics may vary, but not very far. I won't play something that's a lot worse than offline games i play.

    Graphics is also depends on designers heavily. Lineage 2 character design is still a lot better/stylish than ugly stuff of AION or Darkfall and good graphics won't help here. But AOC design is good. It's just not fantasy style, more like antiq.

    I don't understand all this mutter about "broken promises", "funcom lied to us...". it's not like president elections here. I don't care - all i need is game, Like every other company stays true to their words - they just stay silent. If FC wouldn't talk too much - ppl would have less reasons to whine.

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945

    A single player game can control how much graphics will be on one screen at a time.  MMOs do not have that luxury and need to be programmed accordingly.  There are very few ways to keep hundreds of people from being in the same area which must be taken into account. 

     

    EQ2 has high res graphics and performs like shit

    Vanguard has high res graphics and performs like shit

    Conan... you be the judge.

     

    Single player games have much more resources to draw from and less overhead to deal with (networking, anti-hacking, etc).  I'm not trying to tell you what should be your own personal standards, but your comparison isn't very reasonable. 

     

     

     

     

  • AlexanderTDAlexanderTD Member Posts: 97
    Originally posted by Daffid011


    1. A single player game can control how much graphics will be on one screen at a time.  MMOs do not have that luxury and need to be programmed accordingly.  There are very few ways to keep hundreds of people from being in the same area which must be taken into account. 
    2. Conan... you be the judge.
    3. Single player games have much more resources to draw from and less overhead to deal with (networking, anti-hacking, etc).  I'm not trying to tell you what should be your own personal standards, but your comparison isn't very reasonable. 
     
     
     
     



     

    1. There's no difference. MMO considered even easier among developers, because...maybe you forgot about AI? To display someone's avatar you just take coordinates server sends you and that's it. A single AI controlled character in your average shooter is about at least 10 times more "expensive" when it comes to CPU load.

    2. Well, i run it maxed at 24" monitor 1920x1200, core2duo+ATI4870 = 80FPS, 35 - is absolute worst only in few graphics rich areas + my insane settings.

    3. Quite the contrary - offline games consume more resources. AI, animation and stuff - average single-player game frame requires about 3-5 more processing power. MMOs is almost static content. The only thing that moves is NPCs (very simple scripted AI) and players (almost no processing needed - you get coordinates from server). networking, anti-hacking....even calculator can handle those, it's like 0,5% of cpu load maybe.

  • MorothMoroth Member Posts: 99

    Who cares about any of this?  I thought games are about playing.  I have a bunch of shitty games that were shelved after an hour of playing them... Should we talk about those to death too?  Why do you keep talking about games you don't like? Are you bored?  Who cares what the number of subscribers is or whether you agree or disagree with what someone says.  Does it pain you to see something you don't like do well or make you feel that good to see someone else do bad?  This has to be about the worst of society, you actually get off on seeing others fail (in your eyes at least) Do you think they all want to see you fail in life?  There will always be video games and some will always be better than others and some will like some you don't like and vice versa.  Maybe you're a bunch of game maker wannabe's pretending to know so much?  If you know so much go make a game for us all to play.  Go do something productive..... All this negativity isn't good for you...  Being this upset about a game you don't play will likely lead to an early stroke and I'd hate to see that :(

  • bluberryhazebluberryhaze Member Posts: 1,702

     LOL.

    how long are the lot of you going to keep this up?

    let it grow or die in peace.

    -I will subtlety invade your psyche-

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