I play LotRO still. Very nice MMO, but it has some nasty grind all over the place. Traits, Virtues, Legendaries, and when you get to the higher Lv40s.
The grind in WAR is nowhere even in the same realm.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
Unlike SOME recent games we could mention, we're not going to be seeing Mark Jacobs removed from his posittion in the company anytime soon. But then, he's not a nutjob taking DNA into space either.
Ahh, Lord British. How far have you fallen...
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
sad you haven't experienced the game yet. the game is the best game i have ever played, t3 keep sieges are amazing, i just made a post on how we fought for a keep for an hour. best thing i have ever experienced in a game. and that only tier 3.
Your issue is the Low population server. And I do agree with what's been said, to counteract the postlaunch surge of players, they really need to merge some of the lower population servers together. RvR is pretty nonexsistant on the lower pop servers. My reccommendation - switch to a higher pop server. I'm currently playing on Phoenix Throne (Core-RP) and both Scenarios AND Open World are really active. There are -at least- 2 keep seiges a night (in T3 at least), and Scenarios pop every 5-6 minutes.
Thank you.
Here is another, ironrock, my server is high/full during prime hours, not sure what you play but T2 is extremely active scenario wise and RVR in t2/3 keeps change hands daily and sometimes several times a night, specially in those 2 tiers. cant say much for tier 4 as its not active as of yet, I have to agree with most, the main issues are low pop servers.
oh and T2 mourkain temple alone never has more then a 3 minute queue and often I get in less then 1 minute after queue'n. phoenix gate is dead in t2 and stonetroll is active though not as much as mourkain. T3 ive only been in 2 scenarios and the queues on them were less then 5 minutes.
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Unlike SOME recent games we could mention, we're not going to be seeing Mark Jacobs removed from his posittion in the company anytime soon. But then, he's not a nutjob taking DNA into space either.
That had me laughing for a while at least Colbert's DNA is going up, that is some comfort.
We should just put all these threads into the 'I should have waited 6 months after release before I tried it" category......A big part of being successful is being able to adapt and change.....You have to give the game a little time.....2 weeks is hardly a good judge of whether or not to fire the guy in charge.....The game isnt a total disaster and the majority seem to like it so thats good enough for now......They wioll make changes to the game and will probably even bring in the missing classes and cities eventually.
Mark is one of the reasons this game is such a massive success. Firing him would be quite silly
Massive success???? -20% drop in xfire in just the last week does not match with your statement. Read man, read what people write. 50% of the servers are already at low or very little activity. People are already screaming merge. That is not successfull in my book.
The posts on this site have started loosing all semblance of sanity.
The game has a user rating of 8.84, rock solid. Full one point above any other game.
I love the game. And so do all the people I actually know who are playing it.
It's getting glowing reviews both from users and professional reviewers.
... and yet if you take one look at the thread headings in mmorpg.com you'd think the sky is falling and that WAR is the greatest POS ever released.
There is something seriously wrong here. This is utterly crazy. To the OP: are you insane?
There is simply no point trying to counter-argument anything you've written because you cannot sensibly argue with someone who is so completely and utterly wrong and yet absolutely convinced of his infalability.
FYI:
the mail CD is 5 seconds now, 1 sec for guildies and alts in the next patch. I think it is obvious even to the dogs and cats why there was a 20 sec CD at release.
the game is less than a month old - maybe that has some impact on population distribution sherlock?
in the next patch lower pop factions and servers will be getting xp and renown boosts and there has already been silent increases to T3 quest xp.
... and all that in LESS THAN ONE FREAKING MONTH!!!!! I have NEVER EVER SEEN A MMO COMPANY REACT THAT FAST TO PLAYER CONCERNS! NEVER EVER!!!!
AND YOU WANT TO FIRE ITS CEO!?!??!
FYI I'm playing on a low pop server as well but I'm aware of it and I'm taking my time leveling. In addition I've formed a guild and we roam the PvE and RvR zones as an open warband and we've NEVER EVER had any of those problems you've mentioned with grouping, completing PQs getting XP or finding open RvR action. In fact we had and still are having a total blast. L2P!
Ha it may have failed in your book but the game is actually a huge seuccess. Its 2nd place on the MMO market and shows no signs of relenting. I usually a que on my server and I have never ever had trouble doing a PQ and The longest ive ever had to wait for a scenario is about a minute or two. And this ia all late at night.
Please, then what server are you on? Mine is DEAD.
my server has a good healthy population. yes there are empty PQ's (especially in the Dwarf zone) but i attribute that to the retards who only play in the Empire/Chaos area and the fact that there is so many PQ's. BG's are the same. i played on an alt on a different server (to play Destruction) and after 40 minutes of god damn Nordenwatch i (finally) managed to see the Dwarf/orc instance. does that mean there is too low pop for that stuff? no it means people just dont join the right queues.
i'd say you rolled on the wrong server
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds -Solid non level based game -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Roll a Character on Dark Craig or Volkmar either side has very short queues, I wait about 2 mins on average and even in the middle of the night I have never waited more than 15 mins.
Mark is one of the reasons this game is such a massive success. Firing him would be quite silly
Massive success???? -20% drop in xfire in just the last week does not match with your statement. Read man, read what people write. 50% of the servers are already at low or very little activity. People are already screaming merge. That is not successfull in my book.
What? I take it you've never experienced an MMO launch before. MMOs always work like this - you get a big influx of players (in WAR's case a truly massive influx greater than any seen before), and then you've got some people dropping out. 20% is a rather low drop rate for a newly-released MMO, which is not surprising giving WAR's smooth, and (for an MMOG) polished launch. The retention rate is what matters in the long run. I don't know about the US servers, but of the EU servers only a small percentage are low population, although this is hardly a surprise. With such a massive amount of servers as the influx of customers have required, it's not odd that there's a few that go back to Low during the game's early life cycle. And then again, you need Low pop servers to handle new customers coming into the game. World of WarCraft has a few low-pop servers too - you don't see Blizzard complaining. Just let the population settle instead of going around screaming lunacy before the game's even getting started.
Ignore the trolls. They somehow got it into their heads that if you don't like Warhammer, you automatically are a troll. It's the same on all the game threads on mmorpg. You soon learn to filter them out, heh.
What Mythic fails with is that they do copy high population realms but they don't accept transfer from low pop to med/high pop, causing people to get the wrong impression about the game and by that, cancel their account. It's quite fun if you join a server with atleast med/med or higher population.
I can perfectly understand to not be willing to reroll on another server as you probably put in untold hours into the toon you already made and the thought of starting all over again, is daunting and disheartening to say the least.
To put it in short, Mythic haven't got a clue how to balance the realms as of yet. Low pop get lower all the time, causing dead servers and high pop get even higher, causing even longer queues.
I can que up for my server in less than 30 seconds. Dark Crag, level 23 engineer. But this is besides the point. You apparently think MMORPG's should grant you a no grind game, which will never happen. RPG's that are level based atleast will have to have some grind to them. Do you just expect to be granted levels because you look cool? Or because you did some special emote? If you don't want a grind game, dont play rpgs. I bet you can't name one MMORPG that doesn't have grind. If you can, i will download it and prove you wrong.
Im a level 40 Sorc on Dark Crag and you will change your mind once you get a little higher. I can count on one hand how many times I have gottena teir 3 que. Let me not digress though, becuase what im really pissed about and find unacceptable is the Client to Server issue. They need to fix thier packet lose which causes a slew of issue's. GHOSTING!!!!! However, I shouldn't had expected anything less from Mythic. In the 6-7 years DAoC has been around they still haven't solved the issue between the client to server and I see the exact same thing here in WAR. Just a terrible engine they created. Chat window dragging anyone?
PS. Almost forgot to add that it is a minimum 45 minute wait if you log on in the evening to get on the server. Sometimes it just says it's full and won't even let you que up. This has stopped me from logging in as it ruins my enjoyment of gaming. Im back to COD4 till World at War comes. Peace fruitloops.
It's getting glowing reviews both from users and professional reviewers. ... and yet if you take one look at the thread headings in mmorpg.com you'd think the sky is falling and that WAR is the greatest POS ever released. There is something seriously wrong here. This is utterly crazy. To the OP: are you insane? There is simply no point trying to counter-argument anything you've written because you cannot sensibly argue with someone who is so completely and utterly wrong and yet absolutely convinced of his infalability. FYI: the mail CD is 5 seconds now, 1 sec for guildies and alts in the next patch. I think it is obvious even to the dogs and cats why there was a 20 sec CD at release. the game is less than a month old - maybe that has some impact on population distribution sherlock? in the next patch lower pop factions and servers will be getting xp and renown boosts and there has already been silent increases to T3 quest xp. ... and all that in LESS THAN ONE FREAKING MONTH!!!!! I have NEVER EVER SEEN A MMO COMPANY REACT THAT FAST TO PLAYER CONCERNS! NEVER EVER!!!! AND YOU WANT TO FIRE ITS CEO!?!??!
"Are you insane?"
Of course he is insane. He wants to fire the CEO of a company because they took launch month precautions by adding a ton of servers to the list. They over reacted, yes.
Then he thinks the game is bad because he is on a low population server and not experiencing everything and he blames it all on EA and Mark Jacob.
He thinks people are leaving the game in droves because his guild removed over 60 players from their list, not realiving those 60 players were not leaving the game, they were leaving the server to join a higher population server.
I spent 2 days, 2 DAYS, on a low population server before I realized that, 1) This is not WoW and servers will not fill up. 2) This game requires many active players to be fun. So I rolled on Chaos Waste and Avelorn. Now I get quick scnerio times and ok RvR action.
Back to the whole firing Mark Jacobs thing. HE IS THE CEO OF MYTHIC! Even though EA owns Mythic, they can't just up and fire him. How owns shares, LOTS of shares for the company. You can him, you lose the shares and hurt Mythic/EA badly. This is the reason Funcom never got rid of Gaute. (And the fact he was the owner) In the corporate world you don't buy out a company then fire its boss after making contract deals. You would seen as the biggest scam artist in the business. In the corporate world a buyout is more like a merger. The owner of the smaller comapny now has influence over the bigger company, jsut like the big company can influence the smaller one. Kinda like how Pixar and Disney merged. The CEO of Pixar is the only reason Disney reopened their 2D studios.
War hasn't really caught my interest, however I won't deny that WAR is a success and their CEO deserves praise for helping to bring this game to fruition.
I know inpromtu polls on a forum such as this don't mean much, but I notice this poll has 73% voting no, which strangely enough closely corresponds to another poll asking players if they would be resubbing, which was around 70% positive I think.
Looks to me like most players are pretty happy with the game, so I'd say things are turning out quite well.
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Not to be captain obvious here but play on a high pop server. My WAR came with this do hickey on the side that tells you the server pop. Umm ya err pick one that says high or full and bingo no problem.
On Averhiem I have enough time between scenarios to refresh my kill/bg quests and head back into the scenario. Usually have to use the give me a minute feature to have time to refresh all of them.
Leveling is silly simple in WAR... turn on auto queue, play PvE/PQ while in queue, rinse repeat. You want to cap out in rank and renown so that means running BGs to tier 4. I also do all three pairings PvE content, PQ not so much, to see the world but the fast leveling is in BGs.
ROFL, this game will be second only to WoW in how successful it will be, any MMO gamer with half a brain cell can see that.
The game has just launched and it is already this good, imagine what it will be like when they add the remaining classes and cities? Not to mention further expansions.
Nearly 75% of votes say no, on MMORPG.com that is the clearest message of endorsement you can get as people on this forums are the most fussy, hard to please group of gamers that have ever come under one umbrella!
ROFL, this game will be second only to WoW in how successful it will be, any MMO gamer with half a brain cell can see that. The game has just launched and it is already this good, imagine what it will be like when they add the remaining classes and cities? Not to mention further expansions.
You mean spreading further the population? Better take care of that half a brain cell
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I agree 100%, what the hell drives someone to post such ridiculous bullshit?
STOP WHINING!
How can you say WAR has a grind like LotRO?
I play LotRO still. Very nice MMO, but it has some nasty grind all over the place. Traits, Virtues, Legendaries, and when you get to the higher Lv40s.
The grind in WAR is nowhere even in the same realm.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
Unlike SOME recent games we could mention, we're not going to be seeing Mark Jacobs removed from his posittion in the company anytime soon.
But then, he's not a nutjob taking DNA into space either.
Ahh, Lord British. How far have you fallen...
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
seriously, what grind?
You can pvp all you want and never have to touch a mob if you so desire. or very little in order to get the PQ items.
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sad you haven't experienced the game yet. the game is the best game i have ever played, t3 keep sieges are amazing, i just made a post on how we fought for a keep for an hour. best thing i have ever experienced in a game. and that only tier 3.
Thank you.
Here is another, ironrock, my server is high/full during prime hours, not sure what you play but T2 is extremely active scenario wise and RVR in t2/3 keeps change hands daily and sometimes several times a night, specially in those 2 tiers. cant say much for tier 4 as its not active as of yet, I have to agree with most, the main issues are low pop servers.
oh and T2 mourkain temple alone never has more then a 3 minute queue and often I get in less then 1 minute after queue'n. phoenix gate is dead in t2 and stonetroll is active though not as much as mourkain. T3 ive only been in 2 scenarios and the queues on them were less then 5 minutes.
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That had me laughing for a while at least Colbert's DNA is going up, that is some comfort.
Mark is one of the reasons this game is such a massive success. Firing him would be quite silly
We should just put all these threads into the 'I should have waited 6 months after release before I tried it" category......A big part of being successful is being able to adapt and change.....You have to give the game a little time.....2 weeks is hardly a good judge of whether or not to fire the guy in charge.....The game isnt a total disaster and the majority seem to like it so thats good enough for now......They wioll make changes to the game and will probably even bring in the missing classes and cities eventually.
Massive success???? -20% drop in xfire in just the last week does not match with your statement. Read man, read what people write. 50% of the servers are already at low or very little activity. People are already screaming merge. That is not successfull in my book.
Oh my god...
The posts on this site have started loosing all semblance of sanity.
The game has a user rating of 8.84, rock solid. Full one point above any other game.
I love the game. And so do all the people I actually know who are playing it.
It's getting glowing reviews both from users and professional reviewers.
... and yet if you take one look at the thread headings in mmorpg.com you'd think the sky is falling and that WAR is the greatest POS ever released.
There is something seriously wrong here. This is utterly crazy. To the OP: are you insane?
There is simply no point trying to counter-argument anything you've written because you cannot sensibly argue with someone who is so completely and utterly wrong and yet absolutely convinced of his infalability.
FYI:
the mail CD is 5 seconds now, 1 sec for guildies and alts in the next patch. I think it is obvious even to the dogs and cats why there was a 20 sec CD at release.
the game is less than a month old - maybe that has some impact on population distribution sherlock?
in the next patch lower pop factions and servers will be getting xp and renown boosts and there has already been silent increases to T3 quest xp.
... and all that in LESS THAN ONE FREAKING MONTH!!!!! I have NEVER EVER SEEN A MMO COMPANY REACT THAT FAST TO PLAYER CONCERNS! NEVER EVER!!!!
AND YOU WANT TO FIRE ITS CEO!?!??!
FYI I'm playing on a low pop server as well but I'm aware of it and I'm taking my time leveling. In addition I've formed a guild and we roam the PvE and RvR zones as an open warband and we've NEVER EVER had any of those problems you've mentioned with grouping, completing PQs getting XP or finding open RvR action. In fact we had and still are having a total blast. L2P!
Please, then what server are you on? Mine is DEAD.
my server has a good healthy population. yes there are empty PQ's (especially in the Dwarf zone) but i attribute that to the retards who only play in the Empire/Chaos area and the fact that there is so many PQ's. BG's are the same. i played on an alt on a different server (to play Destruction) and after 40 minutes of god damn Nordenwatch i (finally) managed to see the Dwarf/orc instance. does that mean there is too low pop for that stuff? no it means people just dont join the right queues.
i'd say you rolled on the wrong server
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Roll a Character on Dark Craig or Volkmar either side has very short queues, I wait about 2 mins on average and even in the middle of the night I have never waited more than 15 mins.
Massive success???? -20% drop in xfire in just the last week does not match with your statement. Read man, read what people write. 50% of the servers are already at low or very little activity. People are already screaming merge. That is not successfull in my book.
What? I take it you've never experienced an MMO launch before. MMOs always work like this - you get a big influx of players (in WAR's case a truly massive influx greater than any seen before), and then you've got some people dropping out. 20% is a rather low drop rate for a newly-released MMO, which is not surprising giving WAR's smooth, and (for an MMOG) polished launch. The retention rate is what matters in the long run. I don't know about the US servers, but of the EU servers only a small percentage are low population, although this is hardly a surprise. With such a massive amount of servers as the influx of customers have required, it's not odd that there's a few that go back to Low during the game's early life cycle. And then again, you need Low pop servers to handle new customers coming into the game. World of WarCraft has a few low-pop servers too - you don't see Blizzard complaining. Just let the population settle instead of going around screaming lunacy before the game's even getting started.
Ignore the trolls. They somehow got it into their heads that if you don't like Warhammer, you automatically are a troll. It's the same on all the game threads on mmorpg. You soon learn to filter them out, heh.
What Mythic fails with is that they do copy high population realms but they don't accept transfer from low pop to med/high pop, causing people to get the wrong impression about the game and by that, cancel their account. It's quite fun if you join a server with atleast med/med or higher population.
I can perfectly understand to not be willing to reroll on another server as you probably put in untold hours into the toon you already made and the thought of starting all over again, is daunting and disheartening to say the least.
To put it in short, Mythic haven't got a clue how to balance the realms as of yet. Low pop get lower all the time, causing dead servers and high pop get even higher, causing even longer queues.
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Not a bad lauch in my book ..as for unfinished games u didnt play vanguard from the start then lol...
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Im a level 40 Sorc on Dark Crag and you will change your mind once you get a little higher. I can count on one hand how many times I have gottena teir 3 que. Let me not digress though, becuase what im really pissed about and find unacceptable is the Client to Server issue. They need to fix thier packet lose which causes a slew of issue's. GHOSTING!!!!! However, I shouldn't had expected anything less from Mythic. In the 6-7 years DAoC has been around they still haven't solved the issue between the client to server and I see the exact same thing here in WAR. Just a terrible engine they created. Chat window dragging anyone?
PS. Almost forgot to add that it is a minimum 45 minute wait if you log on in the evening to get on the server. Sometimes it just says it's full and won't even let you que up. This has stopped me from logging in as it ruins my enjoyment of gaming. Im back to COD4 till World at War comes. Peace fruitloops.
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"Are you insane?"
Of course he is insane. He wants to fire the CEO of a company because they took launch month precautions by adding a ton of servers to the list. They over reacted, yes.
Then he thinks the game is bad because he is on a low population server and not experiencing everything and he blames it all on EA and Mark Jacob.
He thinks people are leaving the game in droves because his guild removed over 60 players from their list, not realiving those 60 players were not leaving the game, they were leaving the server to join a higher population server.
I spent 2 days, 2 DAYS, on a low population server before I realized that, 1) This is not WoW and servers will not fill up. 2) This game requires many active players to be fun. So I rolled on Chaos Waste and Avelorn. Now I get quick scnerio times and ok RvR action.
Back to the whole firing Mark Jacobs thing. HE IS THE CEO OF MYTHIC! Even though EA owns Mythic, they can't just up and fire him. How owns shares, LOTS of shares for the company. You can him, you lose the shares and hurt Mythic/EA badly. This is the reason Funcom never got rid of Gaute. (And the fact he was the owner) In the corporate world you don't buy out a company then fire its boss after making contract deals. You would seen as the biggest scam artist in the business. In the corporate world a buyout is more like a merger. The owner of the smaller comapny now has influence over the bigger company, jsut like the big company can influence the smaller one. Kinda like how Pixar and Disney merged. The CEO of Pixar is the only reason Disney reopened their 2D studios.
War hasn't really caught my interest, however I won't deny that WAR is a success and their CEO deserves praise for helping to bring this game to fruition.
I know inpromtu polls on a forum such as this don't mean much, but I notice this poll has 73% voting no, which strangely enough closely corresponds to another poll asking players if they would be resubbing, which was around 70% positive I think.
Looks to me like most players are pretty happy with the game, so I'd say things are turning out quite well.
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Not to be captain obvious here but play on a high pop server. My WAR came with this do hickey on the side that tells you the server pop. Umm ya err pick one that says high or full and bingo no problem.
On Averhiem I have enough time between scenarios to refresh my kill/bg quests and head back into the scenario. Usually have to use the give me a minute feature to have time to refresh all of them.
Leveling is silly simple in WAR... turn on auto queue, play PvE/PQ while in queue, rinse repeat. You want to cap out in rank and renown so that means running BGs to tier 4. I also do all three pairings PvE content, PQ not so much, to see the world but the fast leveling is in BGs.
Compared to AoC this game is a huge success. And I blame any problems with the game on EA not Mythic.
ROFL, this game will be second only to WoW in how successful it will be, any MMO gamer with half a brain cell can see that.
The game has just launched and it is already this good, imagine what it will be like when they add the remaining classes and cities? Not to mention further expansions.
Nearly 75% of votes say no, on MMORPG.com that is the clearest message of endorsement you can get as people on this forums are the most fussy, hard to please group of gamers that have ever come under one umbrella!
You mean spreading further the population? Better take care of that half a brain cell