I laugh when someone tries to justify that his opinion of a game in a post should trump everyone else's.
That's why polls are there, so that the mean is reached and you get the opinion of a large number of people rather than the vocal minority trying to shove their opinion down people's throat as fact.
Fact is i fine the game tons of fun. Just because you have a different opinion doesn't mean you need to post that the user rating is wrong. If so there will be thousands of these posts each with a different rating.
Agreed. The sound is absolutely sub-par and so is the community. Anyone who ever talked when I played was talking smack to someone. Also, the graphics remind me of Lineage 2, except the character models look worse. This game is a HUGE disappointment.
"Agreed. The sound is absolutely sub-par and so is the community. Anyone who ever talked when I played was talking smack to someone. Also, the graphics remind me of Lineage 2, except the character models look worse. This game is a HUGE disappointment.
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Thats your opinion and mine is the reverse, so what, all that means is I'm pleased and you disappointed! Sound of the game to me supports the games atmosphere although to gig a came on sounds seems rather petty to me. The games community seems rather freindly to me but I guess thats a rather personal evaluation and probably differs from server to server. Maybe your expectations were way out of line as the game lives up to what it promised, no more or no less.
This games have shitty optimization, I can run friggin' hellgate and crysis well but not WAR? Come on, and even on systems where it does run well it still look no better than a 5 year old game like WoW. The world is sloppily put together and the animations are akward.
FUN - My Rating - 1
This game was decent until I hit lvl 15 or so, from that point on it was just a mindless grind in poorly designed BG's with people that generally don't talk much. I'd have more fun playing bejeweled with IRC running in the background. Oyea, I'm sure it changes once you reach the endgame. Yea, that altdorf place better be pretty damn hillarious.
SOUND - My Rating - 4
Ok, I wouldn't say that EVE has better sound but the sound effects in WAR are nothing special and akward at best, games like Diablo 2 have done a better job at this.
COMMUNITY - My Rating - 1
What community? Everyone just shuts the hell up because the chat sucks, you better join a guild if you don't wanna become a total shut-in. Public quests do absolutely NOTHING to help with this. Most people are fairly stupid aswell, but at least they aren't bitching about profanity.
ROLE PLAYING - My Rating - 2
This games pounds the Warhammer lore in the ass with a 10 feet jagged wooden pole with friggin' splinters in it. How is anyone s'posed to roleplay in this steaming pile of shit? That being said, orcs and dwarves are cool so one point each for those two being relatively well done (except that warhammer dwarves don't fucking build steam trains, this isn't WoW you dumb fucks! AND WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THE GYROCOPTER ON MY BACK?).
PERFORMANCE / LAG - My Rating - 4
Like already said, it runs like shit on my system for no reason whatsoever, however, It doesn't crash that often and has no major stability issues considering that it's a freshly launched game. Too bad is sucks donkeyballs.
VALUE - My Rating 1
Well, if you have a computer then it's relatively pointless since there's an abundance of other things that you could be doing that are free and far more entertaining (the internet is for...) and certainly can't be any less productive than playing WAR. If you don't have a computer then the discs may serve well as frisbees, or you could possibly use the package as table support.
SERVICE - My Rating - 5
OP makes a good point, but out of sheer spite for the fact that they put the servers down for a good while just to copy (my lvl 12 or something char) to a (probably dead and forsaken) server for no valid reason whatsoever. If people don't want lagg and queues, they effin' reroll. Oh noes I lost the time invested in my lvl 10-20 character *cry*. You know what you lost Mythic? My subscription.
Now I consider myself a mature gamer who is fair when reviewing a game and I certainly don't bash for no reason. However seeing a user rating of 8.87 for WAR it really makes me mad as its so unrealistic and either we have a bunch of gamers who have only played one MMO aka WOW or they are desperately trying to attract more people by blatantly lying about the quality of the game. RATINGS AS FOLLOWS: USER RATING MY RATING GRAPHICS - 8.7 My Rating - 7 Considering the game has graphics that is not up to date, not bad but certainly not 8.7! Initially it was the key let down for me. FUN - 9.4 My Rating - 7 Ok who am I to say if people think the game is fun or but 9.4 Are you freaking kidding me? Is this seriously the most fun in an MMO that you have ever had? GET OUT MORE! SOUND - 8.8 My Rating - 4 8.8 for sound? Ok now this rating has donkey crap all over it. The sound in WAR is borderline pathetic compared to most MMO's out there. AoC has movie quality ambience, EVE even Tabula Rasa crap all over WAR. All I seem to hear are dull drums going off and an odd screech. 8.8 rating? I must be playing a different game. COMMUNITY - 8.6 My Rating - 4 Community may differ on each server but this game has the worst community I have ever come across. Is it the players fault? No. Its the set up of the game. There is no default global chat and unless you are in a guild there is no way of knowing what the hell is going on. Met some nice people but the game does not have an overall community feel. ROLE PLAYING - 8.5 My Rating - 2 Now this is funny. Role Playing 8.5? Based on a 1000 votes as well. Come one people are you seriously giving this game 8.5 for RP? PERFORMANCE / LAG - 8.8 My Rating - 7 I give this game 7 which is pretty good for a new release but once again 8.8 is so overinflated its funny. What about the lag? The 60 second lock ups? The graphic glitches? The reboots? VALUE - 9.2 My Rating 7 If WAR was free then I would give it 9.2 but unless you have mummy and dadddy paying for the sub then there is no way in hell this game gets 9.2 Value rating. If this was true I would cancel my 2 EVE subs and my AoC sub because I am yet to see a game get close to 9! SERVICE - 8.8 My Rating - 6 I have not needed to contact service in-game yet but I give it a 6 purely for the pain of registering and trying to work out how to log in. No instructions and for the first time I even had to call a mate to find out why it wasn't working. He had spent 2 hours working it out as well. Is this a WAR bash thread? Not really but the concept of WAR having 8.87 rating is laughable and anyone that voted stupidly should be tied at a stake and have tomatoes thrown at them. For the record I played table top Warhammer for almost 15 years so if there ever was a fan I should have been it. Unfortunately they have gone to the mass market and dumbed down the game...IMO
I'm not sure what game you're playing... Oh wait.. AoC. I get why you're complaining about this.
The game beats out the other "cartoony" game in graphics. It uses polygons for detail instead of painted on images to flat surface (cough cough wow cough).
It's far more fun than most games out there. The last game I enjoyed was AoC until I got to the end game. They did pvp perfect, except no death penalty . WoW's pvp feels one sided. In low lvl bgs you can get killed almost instantly by all the twinks; in high lvl arena whoever has the best armor (has played longer) will be far superior to anyone else. I could easily overtake someone higher than me in WAR as long as I'm better at the game than them.
Sound? Really? Doesn't matter.. I don't listen to any game's sound really. I usually have vent or music playing in the background so I turn in game sound off. But hey, some people like it and this game might not have the best.
It does community well where it's needed. There may not be communication, but there's a connection usually. PQs consist of many people coming together for a common goal. Many many random people. I only saw that in wow for PUG instances and I wouldn't say a PUG is people connecting. It was usually me getting aggrevated. I get the same kind of grouping in RvR and scenarios. Random tanks/dps/healers get into small groups and fight together as a unit instead of alone. Global chat doesn't mean community. I turn it off in WoW because most of them are filled with chuck norris or anal -spell- jokes.
I dunno where the roleplaying score came from, I didn't see many people doing it. Haven't seen anyone do it on anygame though, and I play RPPVP on WoW.
I got perfect performance on my laptop and desktop. Dunno what you're complaining about. If you play AoC on a regular basis, you shouldn't have problems either. Check your drivers..
Ah, value... 50 bucks then 15 a month for this? How does it compare to others? The cheapest out there is probably WoW.. 20 bucks for the original disk and then 15 after that.. Not bad. As long as I'm paying something, I don't care much if it's an extra 30. I'm saving money as it is compared to buying a new console game every 2 weeks to a month. I think it's worth what I pay. I haven't seen any problems with it yet.
I don't really get what you're talking about with making your account. If the average 3rd graders could make an account in 10-15 minutes, you may want to get yourself checked out. It's a pretty simple process. Step by step instructions? Really? Have you used the internet before? Have you signed up for AoC and 2 EVE accounts? It's all the same. You should be able to figure it out.
I think all we have here is another sad AoC sub that's whining cause WAR isn't failing completely yet.
This website is full of PvP/RvR fans, of EvE fans and of Mythic fanbois.
Add the novelty, and the rating is where it is now. I won't rate the game myself, but atm, peoples who care and have multiples accounts did. As the time passbye, the rating will drop dramatically. As peoples unhappy with the game will see the high scores and rate it lower than they would have normally.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
I believe the 8.87 is very appropiate even though this is a very new game they did a good job at the start. It deserves every bit of that score if not more for simply not following the curse of failure MMOs. Developers have to know they cannot put out crap, WAR and WoW successfully did not follow that. Speaking of developers you guys totally took a pitch-fork towards that one in this thread. Not being mean (seeing how it's my first time actually posting and signing up) but should you guys really be "dissing" these people? Sounds like the majority of you either have some jealousy and/or are just depressed in games in general. Get a hobby? Contribute to society?
though i do think 8.87 is too high the game is good. i would give it an 8. anyway that system is so crap its almost as bad as the political polls. grab 1000 random people off the street, ask them who they vote for and then use it as THE nations opinion. same thing goes for this site...thats why i stopped using that stupid ratings system.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds -Solid non level based game -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Graphics are bad, thought the sound was good enough..
I felt the community was made up of people taking a break from WoW in my opinion... I hated how so many conversations were about Wow and comparing stuff to wow like it was the only other mmo ever made...there is absolutely zero RP... the only time someone ever said anything was in guild chat.
A very honest and accurate review. What you have to realize is people tend to turn into fanboys when they really like a game and look at it very biased. Sound being anything above a 7 is definetly a fanboy rating as well as RP..... sorry how many people really RP in this game??? Those two scores shod be below a 3 which alone would bring this game down below a 9.
and lets face it it is NOT a 10 in any department, so I'd say an overall score closer to 6 would be more accurate, then fanbois wont admit the games flaws though or pass it off as something else its just how fanbois think.
Lets face it, this game is not even close to a 9 and anyone who thinks it is rather is being a fanboi or has little experience with good mmo's
Just for the record I don't want WAR to fail and I am not going to scream about how it should die a horrible death either. I just felt the rating is unjust. It may be that I am on a low pop server and this game needs a lot of players to work as its not much fun running past dozens of PQs and not being able to finish any because no one is around. Fundamentally I don't think the games mechanics are for me, which is a real shame because, The Tome of Knowledge, PQs, Scenarios etc are all great ideas which I would like to see reused in the future.
If they address the pop issue and spice up combat it may change how I feel about the game, regardless its going to be around for a very long time because it will have wide appeal.
Just for the record I don't want WAR to fail and I am not going to scream about how it should die a horrible death either. I just felt the rating is unjust. It may be that I am on a low pop server and this game needs a lot of players to work as its not much fun running past dozens of PQs and not being able to finish any because no one is around. Fundamentally I don't think the games mechanics are for me, which is a real shame because, The Tome of Knowledge, PQs, Scenarios etc are all great ideas which I would like to see reused in the future. If they address the pop issue and spice up combat it may change how I feel about the game, regardless its going to be around for a very long time because it will have wide appeal.
War will not fail - Im not a fanboy but I have played MMOs for long long time now and I see the diffrence between good and bad when it comes to games like this.
I think we will see this game focus more on PVE later on with increased AI and better tuned public quests. MG is sooo much fun to go to even with a random group. Problems with PQs atm is that they are to hard considering they are SOOO many of them. I would like to see a one very hard PQ in every chapter but others more easier for like 2-3 ppl of any spec and class. More of like a farming PQs. Ofc the rewards would not be as good as for the harder one witch would be faster to play but is harder with more focus on bigger group and of right classes.
I can see PVE be huge is WAR. The RVR is pretty much perfect atm in many sence and will only become larger and bigger when you move from one tier to the next - not to mention the endbattles.
Alot of ppl dont realise how deep the game really is. The guild system is amaizing. You can actually claim your own fortresses and defend them to death - making the guild stronger and stronger.
There are still few things that I think can be improved alot. Crafting system is one. I really dont like the current one. Its pointless - time consuming and you get your inventory filled up with crappy seeds all the time. Graphics will improve even tho I find them perfectly acceptable in current state. Overall performance will also improve. I still have a bit high latency for my liking but then - Im pretty far away from the servers.
I agree War wont fail, but not because its a good game but because the playerbase is WOW fanbois. War is not a good game, but history has proven an MMO doesnt have to be good to be a success, just has to be 3 year old friendly where my cat can get to max level and own you... which WAR is
Now I consider myself a mature gamer who is fair when reviewing a game and I certainly don't bash for no reason. However seeing a user rating of 8.87 for WAR it really makes me mad as its so unrealistic and either we have a bunch of gamers who have only played one MMO aka WOW or they are desperately trying to attract more people by blatantly lying about the quality of the game. RATINGS AS FOLLOWS: USER RATING MY RATING GRAPHICS - 8.7 My Rating - 7 Considering the game has graphics that is not up to date, not bad but certainly not 8.7! Initially it was the key let down for me. FUN - 9.4 My Rating - 7 Ok who am I to say if people think the game is fun or but 9.4 Are you freaking kidding me? Is this seriously the most fun in an MMO that you have ever had? GET OUT MORE! SOUND - 8.8 My Rating - 4 8.8 for sound? Ok now this rating has donkey crap all over it. The sound in WAR is borderline pathetic compared to most MMO's out there. AoC has movie quality ambience, EVE even Tabula Rasa crap all over WAR. All I seem to hear are dull drums going off and an odd screech. 8.8 rating? I must be playing a different game. COMMUNITY - 8.6 My Rating - 4 Community may differ on each server but this game has the worst community I have ever come across. Is it the players fault? No. Its the set up of the game. There is no default global chat and unless you are in a guild there is no way of knowing what the hell is going on. Met some nice people but the game does not have an overall community feel. ROLE PLAYING - 8.5 My Rating - 2 Now this is funny. Role Playing 8.5? Based on a 1000 votes as well. Come one people are you seriously giving this game 8.5 for RP? PERFORMANCE / LAG - 8.8 My Rating - 7 I give this game 7 which is pretty good for a new release but once again 8.8 is so overinflated its funny. What about the lag? The 60 second lock ups? The graphic glitches? The reboots? VALUE - 9.2 My Rating 7 If WAR was free then I would give it 9.2 but unless you have mummy and dadddy paying for the sub then there is no way in hell this game gets 9.2 Value rating. If this was true I would cancel my 2 EVE subs and my AoC sub because I am yet to see a game get close to 9! SERVICE - 8.8 My Rating - 6 I have not needed to contact service in-game yet but I give it a 6 purely for the pain of registering and trying to work out how to log in. No instructions and for the first time I even had to call a mate to find out why it wasn't working. He had spent 2 hours working it out as well. Is this a WAR bash thread? Not really but the concept of WAR having 8.87 rating is laughable and anyone that voted stupidly should be tied at a stake and have tomatoes thrown at them. For the record I played table top Warhammer for almost 15 years so if there ever was a fan I should have been it. Unfortunately they have gone to the mass market and dumbed down the game...IMO
I agree War wont fail, but not because its a good game but because the playerbase is WOW fanbois. War is not a good game, but history has proven an MMO doesnt have to be good to be a success, just has to be 3 year old friendly where my cat can get to max level and own you... which WAR is
There are alot of diffrent lvls in WAR. Ranks, renown, guild. Im pretty sure your cat wont get high in guild rank. War and WOW are two totally diffrent games. Those that can't see this are either playing the game totally wrong way or just playing the game like it is WOW 2. There is a WOW lvl of this game - but its only a small minor part of it.
BUt again - Im not a fanboy. Im just very happy with so much about the game. There are alot of things that need work on - but the basics are here for great adventures.
Nop, 8.87 sounds about right I would give this game a 9 personally, YOU dont define the taste of a whole group of people if you dont like it fine, just dont tell me how I should like the game. have a nice day.
get real sound card. play some other games.. sound in warhammer is poor ..
Agreed sound in warhammer is not the best ive seen, but personally no other sound is gonna satisfy me after Lineage 2 the soundtrack is just amazing and the best in my book, but on the other hand that wouldnt stop me from giving it a 9 overall, better sound would make it better but doesnt break it for me as it is.
That means out of all major, professional, gaming reviewers the combined, aggregate(averaged) score is 89%. So obviously your summation that only people who have never played another MMO besides WAR, or people that are lying to get others to play the game is way off base.
Your opinion is only that, your opinion. And everyone has one. But judging by the meta-score, a lot more people like the game and think it is a good, quality game then don't.
I agree War wont fail, but not because its a good game but because the playerbase is WOW fanbois. War is not a good game, but history has proven an MMO doesnt have to be good to be a success, just has to be 3 year old friendly where my cat can get to max level and own you... which WAR is
There are alot of diffrent lvls in WAR. Ranks, renown, guild. Im pretty sure your cat wont get high in guild rank. War and WOW are two totally diffrent games. Those that can't see this are either playing the game totally wrong way or just playing the game like it is WOW 2. There is a WOW lvl of this game - but its only a small minor part of it.
BUt again - Im not a fanboy. Im just very happy with so much about the game. There are alot of things that need work on - but the basics are here for great adventures.
I agree Wow and War are different games, yet related like cousins. They are not THAT different and if you cant see Wow's influence in War then you rather are a fanboy or not very observant.
My cat would lvl renown rank alnd all that just like my 6 year old nephew obtained all epic gear in WOW and owns people without trying.
Also im tired of the "Playing the game wrong" excuse. If War was ment to be played one way then that right there is a suck game and limited game. Any game with such a limited amount of ways to play it will taper off and prolly settle around 200k subs if it's lucky.
I agree War wont fail, but not because its a good game but because the playerbase is WOW fanbois. War is not a good game, but history has proven an MMO doesnt have to be good to be a success, just has to be 3 year old friendly where my cat can get to max level and own you... which WAR is
There are alot of diffrent lvls in WAR. Ranks, renown, guild. Im pretty sure your cat wont get high in guild rank. War and WOW are two totally diffrent games. Those that can't see this are either playing the game totally wrong way or just playing the game like it is WOW 2. There is a WOW lvl of this game - but its only a small minor part of it.
BUt again - Im not a fanboy. Im just very happy with so much about the game. There are alot of things that need work on - but the basics are here for great adventures.
I agree Wow and War are different games, yet related like cousins. They are not THAT different and if you cant see Wow's influence in War then you rather are a fanboy or not very observant.
My cat would lvl renown rank alnd all that just like my 6 year old nephew obtained all epic gear in WOW and owns people without trying.
Also im tired of the "Playing the game wrong" excuse. If War was ment to be played one way then that right there is a suck game and limited game. Any game with such a limited amount of ways to play it will taper off and prolly settle around 200k subs if it's lucky.
i must be a fanboi then....
wow wasnt the first mmo to create what most classify as wow clones.
if you want to get technical war was influenced more by everquest and DAoC.
all wow did was make what was before, a complex genere, into an easy game that all could enjoy. For better or worse wow did change how game are made, but it did not invent anything new or groudbreaking. Sorry thats the truth.
Even the lore that warcraft uses is based heavily on the warhammer lore invented like 30 years earlyer, which has some bases on the tolkien books.
i think the saddest thing that wow brought to the industry is the millions of kids who think that wow invented the mmo and that all other games are ripping it of if it uses things such as skill quick slots, hp/mp bars, exp bars, mini maps, orcs/elves ect, the concept of cast times and how you fight mobs, or the quest system. All of these things where done years before wow and will be done in years to come, they are what define a mmo to some extent.
I also agree 100% that you can play a game wrong. You where born and raised playing a game where its 1vs1 fighting, you go on solo pvp killing sprees, the game is about how good you and your gear is....you then move on to a game that requires teamwork and team strategy, and communication. Can you see how playing warhammer like a solo pvp game would en up in a crappy gaming experience?
If you have all the best gear and your a badass at 1v1 solo killing, your going to have a very very small impact on the end result of RvR if your fellow faction doesnt work together.
thats what i like about warhammer, it takes the uber leet, badass pker and puts him in his place.
if you dont like the team based gameplay then i would say that warhammer isnt going to be a game that your going to get along with.
I will say that it would take a decent learning curve to adapt from the wow type gameplay to the war type, i just see a lot of people refusing to really give it a try, perhaps all their complaining about playing a game that wasnt like wow was kind of a mistake, perhaps all they really want is an easy pve grind game, followed by 1v1 pvp and raids as the endgame.
every single WAR developer is being told to come to this sight and give there game a 10/10 rating or they lose there job...some are even being forced to create multible accounts to rate it even more!!!
havnt u heard? every single WAR developer is being told to come to this sight and give there game a 10/10 rating or they lose there job...some are even being forced to create multible accounts to rate it even more!!! yea...its kinda sad
no offense, but are you retarded?
every p2p game that gets released gets popped up to 1st place. The user ranked hype has always been, and will always be a joke.
its nice to see your so naieve as to think that this is just mythic whos doing this.
ever wonder why some games, after release appear at the top for a while, and why some appear at the bottom?
whatever, you go make 50 accounts and rate it 1, see how much that drops it, no one cares.
you really think mystic cares that much to force their employees to rate the game on a mmorpg site when they can just pay for 10k 10.0 votes? Hate to break it to you but every games does this if they can afford it...its called marketing.
i wouldnt give war a 10 but i sure would give it an 8.0.
just because you think this is a crappy game doesnt mean that 750k or even 500k other people might not agree with you.
so poast your 1.0 vote and move on if it matters that much, 99% of the world and mabey 95% of the mmo community could give a rats ass about user ratings on a website used to hate every game that comes out.
How does one really rate a game? Do you compare it to the last megahit, or do you compare it to the times?
So, my guess is that people will rate a game based on how much they like it. I realise how moronically appearant that fact is, but let me explain. Their rating will be swayed one way or another depending on whether they like the game overall. We all do this - rate just a little higher on graphics or sound to get that Overall Rating score up, because we think it's more deserving than the original score we came out with.
For instance, we originally thought that the game's graphics were a 7, but after the final score came out to be a 7.8, we felt that the game was good enough for an 8. So, we change a few scores here and there, until eventually it becomes an 8 or 8.5.
Also, add to the fact that if you really enjoy a game, you naturally rate higher than an unbiased opinion. Maybe WAR doesn't have really great graphics - but in the score, it has a 9 because we find the overall appeal of the game to be quite satisfying. Keep in mind, I'm speaking in rhetoric here.
Personally, I could say with almost 100% certainty that that 8.87 rating is fluffed to no end and back. If the truth were known, it's probably about as good as a 7.5 at the most. Which, if you think about what the ratings should mean, a 7.5 is a good bet for anyone who is interested in the genre.
As far as I can see... there is nothing in WAR that hasn't already been done in some other game. For this purpose, I would have to say that people need to learn how to rate a game based on how well a game does something that's already been attempted, and how well a game does something that tries to advance the genre, and tries something new. Again, because this game has no innovative features, the highest it would ever get from me would be a 7.9. 8.0 and higher is reserved for games that actually try to add something to the genre - not make money off of what's already working.
hmm instead of breaking it down in all these categories, most being subjective anyway, im just goin gto give it one rating, for fun factor, since to me thats all that really matters
so for fun factor i would give it a 9
because im having a lot of fun.
i could care leass about all the little crap if im entertained, if i was standing around bored in game, looking for a chatroom, then i might start to notice all the piddly crap some people seem to be focused on, but im not, im having a blast.
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I laugh when someone tries to justify that his opinion of a game in a post should trump everyone else's.
That's why polls are there, so that the mean is reached and you get the opinion of a large number of people rather than the vocal minority trying to shove their opinion down people's throat as fact.
Fact is i fine the game tons of fun. Just because you have a different opinion doesn't mean you need to post that the user rating is wrong. If so there will be thousands of these posts each with a different rating.
Agreed. The sound is absolutely sub-par and so is the community. Anyone who ever talked when I played was talking smack to someone. Also, the graphics remind me of Lineage 2, except the character models look worse. This game is a HUGE disappointment.
"Agreed. The sound is absolutely sub-par and so is the community. Anyone who ever talked when I played was talking smack to someone. Also, the graphics remind me of Lineage 2, except the character models look worse. This game is a HUGE disappointment.
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Thats your opinion and mine is the reverse, so what, all that means is I'm pleased and you disappointed! Sound of the game to me supports the games atmosphere although to gig a came on sounds seems rather petty to me. The games community seems rather freindly to me but I guess thats a rather personal evaluation and probably differs from server to server. Maybe your expectations were way out of line as the game lives up to what it promised, no more or no less.
GRAPHICS - My Rating 5
This games have shitty optimization, I can run friggin' hellgate and crysis well but not WAR? Come on, and even on systems where it does run well it still look no better than a 5 year old game like WoW. The world is sloppily put together and the animations are akward.
FUN - My Rating - 1
This game was decent until I hit lvl 15 or so, from that point on it was just a mindless grind in poorly designed BG's with people that generally don't talk much. I'd have more fun playing bejeweled with IRC running in the background. Oyea, I'm sure it changes once you reach the endgame. Yea, that altdorf place better be pretty damn hillarious.
SOUND - My Rating - 4
Ok, I wouldn't say that EVE has better sound but the sound effects in WAR are nothing special and akward at best, games like Diablo 2 have done a better job at this.
COMMUNITY - My Rating - 1
What community? Everyone just shuts the hell up because the chat sucks, you better join a guild if you don't wanna become a total shut-in. Public quests do absolutely NOTHING to help with this. Most people are fairly stupid aswell, but at least they aren't bitching about profanity.
ROLE PLAYING - My Rating - 2
This games pounds the Warhammer lore in the ass with a 10 feet jagged wooden pole with friggin' splinters in it. How is anyone s'posed to roleplay in this steaming pile of shit? That being said, orcs and dwarves are cool so one point each for those two being relatively well done (except that warhammer dwarves don't fucking build steam trains, this isn't WoW you dumb fucks! AND WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THE GYROCOPTER ON MY BACK?).
PERFORMANCE / LAG - My Rating - 4
Like already said, it runs like shit on my system for no reason whatsoever, however, It doesn't crash that often and has no major stability issues considering that it's a freshly launched game. Too bad is sucks donkeyballs.
VALUE - My Rating 1
Well, if you have a computer then it's relatively pointless since there's an abundance of other things that you could be doing that are free and far more entertaining (the internet is for...) and certainly can't be any less productive than playing WAR. If you don't have a computer then the discs may serve well as frisbees, or you could possibly use the package as table support.
SERVICE - My Rating - 5
OP makes a good point, but out of sheer spite for the fact that they put the servers down for a good while just to copy (my lvl 12 or something char) to a (probably dead and forsaken) server for no valid reason whatsoever. If people don't want lagg and queues, they effin' reroll. Oh noes I lost the time invested in my lvl 10-20 character *cry*. You know what you lost Mythic? My subscription.
I'm not sure what game you're playing... Oh wait.. AoC. I get why you're complaining about this.
The game beats out the other "cartoony" game in graphics. It uses polygons for detail instead of painted on images to flat surface (cough cough wow cough).
It's far more fun than most games out there. The last game I enjoyed was AoC until I got to the end game. They did pvp perfect, except no death penalty
. WoW's pvp feels one sided. In low lvl bgs you can get killed almost instantly by all the twinks; in high lvl arena whoever has the best armor (has played longer) will be far superior to anyone else. I could easily overtake someone higher than me in WAR as long as I'm better at the game than them.
Sound? Really? Doesn't matter.. I don't listen to any game's sound really. I usually have vent or music playing in the background so I turn in game sound off. But hey, some people like it and this game might not have the best.
It does community well where it's needed. There may not be communication, but there's a connection usually. PQs consist of many people coming together for a common goal. Many many random people. I only saw that in wow for PUG instances and I wouldn't say a PUG is people connecting. It was usually me getting aggrevated. I get the same kind of grouping in RvR and scenarios. Random tanks/dps/healers get into small groups and fight together as a unit instead of alone. Global chat doesn't mean community. I turn it off in WoW because most of them are filled with chuck norris or anal -spell- jokes.
I dunno where the roleplaying score came from, I didn't see many people doing it. Haven't seen anyone do it on anygame though, and I play RPPVP on WoW.
I got perfect performance on my laptop and desktop. Dunno what you're complaining about. If you play AoC on a regular basis, you shouldn't have problems either. Check your drivers..
Ah, value... 50 bucks then 15 a month for this? How does it compare to others? The cheapest out there is probably WoW.. 20 bucks for the original disk and then 15 after that.. Not bad. As long as I'm paying something, I don't care much if it's an extra 30. I'm saving money as it is compared to buying a new console game every 2 weeks to a month. I think it's worth what I pay. I haven't seen any problems with it yet.
I don't really get what you're talking about with making your account. If the average 3rd graders could make an account in 10-15 minutes, you may want to get yourself checked out. It's a pretty simple process. Step by step instructions? Really? Have you used the internet before? Have you signed up for AoC and 2 EVE accounts? It's all the same. You should be able to figure it out.
I think all we have here is another sad AoC sub that's whining cause WAR isn't failing completely yet.
This website is full of PvP/RvR fans, of EvE fans and of Mythic fanbois.
Add the novelty, and the rating is where it is now. I won't rate the game myself, but atm, peoples who care and have multiples accounts did. As the time passbye, the rating will drop dramatically. As peoples unhappy with the game will see the high scores and rate it lower than they would have normally.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
I believe the 8.87 is very appropiate even though this is a very new game they did a good job at the start. It deserves every bit of that score if not more for simply not following the curse of failure MMOs. Developers have to know they cannot put out crap, WAR and WoW successfully did not follow that. Speaking of developers you guys totally took a pitch-fork towards that one in this thread. Not being mean (seeing how it's my first time actually posting and signing up) but should you guys really be "dissing" these people? Sounds like the majority of you either have some jealousy and/or are just depressed in games in general. Get a hobby? Contribute to society?
though i do think 8.87 is too high the game is good. i would give it an 8. anyway that system is so crap its almost as bad as the political polls. grab 1000 random people off the street, ask them who they vote for and then use it as THE nations opinion. same thing goes for this site...thats why i stopped using that stupid ratings system.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Graphics are bad, thought the sound was good enough..
I felt the community was made up of people taking a break from WoW in my opinion... I hated how so many conversations were about Wow and comparing stuff to wow like it was the only other mmo ever made...there is absolutely zero RP... the only time someone ever said anything was in guild chat.
A very honest and accurate review. What you have to realize is people tend to turn into fanboys when they really like a game and look at it very biased. Sound being anything above a 7 is definetly a fanboy rating as well as RP..... sorry how many people really RP in this game??? Those two scores shod be below a 3 which alone would bring this game down below a 9.
and lets face it it is NOT a 10 in any department, so I'd say an overall score closer to 6 would be more accurate, then fanbois wont admit the games flaws though or pass it off as something else its just how fanbois think.
Lets face it, this game is not even close to a 9 and anyone who thinks it is rather is being a fanboi or has little experience with good mmo's
Just for the record I don't want WAR to fail and I am not going to scream about how it should die a horrible death either. I just felt the rating is unjust. It may be that I am on a low pop server and this game needs a lot of players to work as its not much fun running past dozens of PQs and not being able to finish any because no one is around. Fundamentally I don't think the games mechanics are for me, which is a real shame because, The Tome of Knowledge, PQs, Scenarios etc are all great ideas which I would like to see reused in the future.
If they address the pop issue and spice up combat it may change how I feel about the game, regardless its going to be around for a very long time because it will have wide appeal.
War will not fail - Im not a fanboy but I have played MMOs for long long time now and I see the diffrence between good and bad when it comes to games like this.
I think we will see this game focus more on PVE later on with increased AI and better tuned public quests. MG is sooo much fun to go to even with a random group. Problems with PQs atm is that they are to hard considering they are SOOO many of them. I would like to see a one very hard PQ in every chapter but others more easier for like 2-3 ppl of any spec and class. More of like a farming PQs. Ofc the rewards would not be as good as for the harder one witch would be faster to play but is harder with more focus on bigger group and of right classes.
I can see PVE be huge is WAR. The RVR is pretty much perfect atm in many sence and will only become larger and bigger when you move from one tier to the next - not to mention the endbattles.
Alot of ppl dont realise how deep the game really is. The guild system is amaizing. You can actually claim your own fortresses and defend them to death - making the guild stronger and stronger.
There are still few things that I think can be improved alot. Crafting system is one. I really dont like the current one. Its pointless - time consuming and you get your inventory filled up with crappy seeds all the time. Graphics will improve even tho I find them perfectly acceptable in current state. Overall performance will also improve. I still have a bit high latency for my liking but then - Im pretty far away from the servers.
I agree War wont fail, but not because its a good game but because the playerbase is WOW fanbois. War is not a good game, but history has proven an MMO doesnt have to be good to be a success, just has to be 3 year old friendly where my cat can get to max level and own you... which WAR is
Seems a little low to me.
There are alot of diffrent lvls in WAR. Ranks, renown, guild. Im pretty sure your cat wont get high in guild rank. War and WOW are two totally diffrent games. Those that can't see this are either playing the game totally wrong way or just playing the game like it is WOW 2. There is a WOW lvl of this game - but its only a small minor part of it.
BUt again - Im not a fanboy. Im just very happy with so much about the game. There are alot of things that need work on - but the basics are here for great adventures.
get real sound card. play some other games.. sound in warhammer is poor ..
Agreed sound in warhammer is not the best ive seen, but personally no other sound is gonna satisfy me after Lineage 2 the soundtrack is just amazing and the best in my book, but on the other hand that wouldnt stop me from giving it a 9 overall, better sound would make it better but doesnt break it for me as it is.
The meta-score for WAR is 89%.
That means out of all major, professional, gaming reviewers the combined, aggregate(averaged) score is 89%. So obviously your summation that only people who have never played another MMO besides WAR, or people that are lying to get others to play the game is way off base.
Your opinion is only that, your opinion. And everyone has one. But judging by the meta-score, a lot more people like the game and think it is a good, quality game then don't.
There are alot of diffrent lvls in WAR. Ranks, renown, guild. Im pretty sure your cat wont get high in guild rank. War and WOW are two totally diffrent games. Those that can't see this are either playing the game totally wrong way or just playing the game like it is WOW 2. There is a WOW lvl of this game - but its only a small minor part of it.
BUt again - Im not a fanboy. Im just very happy with so much about the game. There are alot of things that need work on - but the basics are here for great adventures.
I agree Wow and War are different games, yet related like cousins. They are not THAT different and if you cant see Wow's influence in War then you rather are a fanboy or not very observant.
My cat would lvl renown rank alnd all that just like my 6 year old nephew obtained all epic gear in WOW and owns people without trying.
Also im tired of the "Playing the game wrong" excuse. If War was ment to be played one way then that right there is a suck game and limited game. Any game with such a limited amount of ways to play it will taper off and prolly settle around 200k subs if it's lucky.
There are alot of diffrent lvls in WAR. Ranks, renown, guild. Im pretty sure your cat wont get high in guild rank. War and WOW are two totally diffrent games. Those that can't see this are either playing the game totally wrong way or just playing the game like it is WOW 2. There is a WOW lvl of this game - but its only a small minor part of it.
BUt again - Im not a fanboy. Im just very happy with so much about the game. There are alot of things that need work on - but the basics are here for great adventures.
I agree Wow and War are different games, yet related like cousins. They are not THAT different and if you cant see Wow's influence in War then you rather are a fanboy or not very observant.
My cat would lvl renown rank alnd all that just like my 6 year old nephew obtained all epic gear in WOW and owns people without trying.
Also im tired of the "Playing the game wrong" excuse. If War was ment to be played one way then that right there is a suck game and limited game. Any game with such a limited amount of ways to play it will taper off and prolly settle around 200k subs if it's lucky.
i must be a fanboi then....
wow wasnt the first mmo to create what most classify as wow clones.
if you want to get technical war was influenced more by everquest and DAoC.
all wow did was make what was before, a complex genere, into an easy game that all could enjoy. For better or worse wow did change how game are made, but it did not invent anything new or groudbreaking. Sorry thats the truth.
Even the lore that warcraft uses is based heavily on the warhammer lore invented like 30 years earlyer, which has some bases on the tolkien books.
i think the saddest thing that wow brought to the industry is the millions of kids who think that wow invented the mmo and that all other games are ripping it of if it uses things such as skill quick slots, hp/mp bars, exp bars, mini maps, orcs/elves ect, the concept of cast times and how you fight mobs, or the quest system. All of these things where done years before wow and will be done in years to come, they are what define a mmo to some extent.
I also agree 100% that you can play a game wrong. You where born and raised playing a game where its 1vs1 fighting, you go on solo pvp killing sprees, the game is about how good you and your gear is....you then move on to a game that requires teamwork and team strategy, and communication. Can you see how playing warhammer like a solo pvp game would en up in a crappy gaming experience?
If you have all the best gear and your a badass at 1v1 solo killing, your going to have a very very small impact on the end result of RvR if your fellow faction doesnt work together.
thats what i like about warhammer, it takes the uber leet, badass pker and puts him in his place.
if you dont like the team based gameplay then i would say that warhammer isnt going to be a game that your going to get along with.
I will say that it would take a decent learning curve to adapt from the wow type gameplay to the war type, i just see a lot of people refusing to really give it a try, perhaps all their complaining about playing a game that wasnt like wow was kind of a mistake, perhaps all they really want is an easy pve grind game, followed by 1v1 pvp and raids as the endgame.
havnt u heard?
every single WAR developer is being told to come to this sight and give there game a 10/10 rating or they lose there job...some are even being forced to create multible accounts to rate it even more!!!
yea...its kinda sad
no offense, but are you retarded?
every p2p game that gets released gets popped up to 1st place. The user ranked hype has always been, and will always be a joke.
its nice to see your so naieve as to think that this is just mythic whos doing this.
ever wonder why some games, after release appear at the top for a while, and why some appear at the bottom?
whatever, you go make 50 accounts and rate it 1, see how much that drops it, no one cares.
you really think mystic cares that much to force their employees to rate the game on a mmorpg site when they can just pay for 10k 10.0 votes? Hate to break it to you but every games does this if they can afford it...its called marketing.
i wouldnt give war a 10 but i sure would give it an 8.0.
just because you think this is a crappy game doesnt mean that 750k or even 500k other people might not agree with you.
so poast your 1.0 vote and move on if it matters that much, 99% of the world and mabey 95% of the mmo community could give a rats ass about user ratings on a website used to hate every game that comes out.
How does one really rate a game? Do you compare it to the last megahit, or do you compare it to the times?
So, my guess is that people will rate a game based on how much they like it. I realise how moronically appearant that fact is, but let me explain. Their rating will be swayed one way or another depending on whether they like the game overall. We all do this - rate just a little higher on graphics or sound to get that Overall Rating score up, because we think it's more deserving than the original score we came out with.
For instance, we originally thought that the game's graphics were a 7, but after the final score came out to be a 7.8, we felt that the game was good enough for an 8. So, we change a few scores here and there, until eventually it becomes an 8 or 8.5.
Also, add to the fact that if you really enjoy a game, you naturally rate higher than an unbiased opinion. Maybe WAR doesn't have really great graphics - but in the score, it has a 9 because we find the overall appeal of the game to be quite satisfying. Keep in mind, I'm speaking in rhetoric here.
Personally, I could say with almost 100% certainty that that 8.87 rating is fluffed to no end and back. If the truth were known, it's probably about as good as a 7.5 at the most. Which, if you think about what the ratings should mean, a 7.5 is a good bet for anyone who is interested in the genre.
As far as I can see... there is nothing in WAR that hasn't already been done in some other game. For this purpose, I would have to say that people need to learn how to rate a game based on how well a game does something that's already been attempted, and how well a game does something that tries to advance the genre, and tries something new. Again, because this game has no innovative features, the highest it would ever get from me would be a 7.9. 8.0 and higher is reserved for games that actually try to add something to the genre - not make money off of what's already working.
I give the graphics a 9.0 specialy with AF on.
I played alot of f2p mmogs so im use to cartoon graphics plus I perfer them for mmogs.
Cant stand games that try to do the realistic look like AoC. Spell effects make it look cheesy plus it just ends up looking like a CGI cartoon.
They went for the anime look, I like the armor and weapons. I hated the disney style items in WoW.
Animations look fine to me (running looks real good) but then again all games look fake and rigid to me. Computer graphics just dont fool my eyes.
I want my character to look cool and badass, Other than that I just dont care.
hmm instead of breaking it down in all these categories, most being subjective anyway, im just goin gto give it one rating, for fun factor, since to me thats all that really matters
so for fun factor i would give it a 9
because im having a lot of fun.
i could care leass about all the little crap if im entertained, if i was standing around bored in game, looking for a chatroom, then i might start to notice all the piddly crap some people seem to be focused on, but im not, im having a blast.