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Hypothesis: Aion & PS3
Ok before everyone gets in an all out uproar, this is just my guess and I have no proof to back it up.
With the extreme lack of information being released for the supposedly highly polished Aion, I am starting to think they are working on a PS3 version. If you have followed NCSoft, they struck a deal with Sony to make MMO's for the PS3( that is fact). So in the coming months I would not be surprised at all to hear an announcement that Aion will be ported to the PS3 maybe not at PC release date but sometime after. There is no doubt that the PS3 could run it, as these next gen consoles are not as weak as PC "fanboys" think.
I see nothing but good things to come by bringing in consoles to MMO's. I wouldn’t main play on a console, because my gaming computer would play it on higher settings, but it would be nice to be able to have 2 accounts w/o the need for 2 good computers. That is if the game is good enough.
Furthermore I do not understand why the main PC “Fanboys” care if an MMO is ported to consoles or not. If you have a high end PC well, you will have an advantage over the console so advantage you. PS3 can use KB/mouse so I don’t see the UI being dumbed down for a console controller.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
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no, im pretty sure the deal was for blade and soul
http://bns.plaync.co.kr/
also if you want allot of info on the game go to aionsource.
problem with game being produced in korea is that info filters in a little slowly ^^ but there is allot of it out there.
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BnS might be one but the deal between NCSoft and Sony states several games.
"Home wasn't the only online integration on Sony's plate, however. During the conference, the megapublisher also announced an exclusive partnership with South Korea-based massively multiplayer online aficionados NCsoft to create several online games for the PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Portable. "
above quote from:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6174269.html
of course the PsP is not applicable and it says online game which I intrepret MMO's as a form of online game. I might be wrong but that does not close the door on a PS3 version of Aion imo.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
b@s will be ported to console, but i do not think aion will be one of them. Alot of the dev's post over at aionsource and not one of them has mention a port of Aion. Sorry but its just not in the cards.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
You might possibly be right but Devs know more than what they lead on, and that you can take to the bank. Either way I will be glad when Aion is out PS3 version or not, but its fun to think what if.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
no worries, NCSoft has some big plans for console games. blade and soul is just the start.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
I'll bite.
Consoles aren't nearly as powerful as computers so when a game is designed with both platforms in mind the developer must make a choice. Either there must be 2 versions of the game or they must build to the weaker standard.
Console users don't really notice this since they are the weaker link but PC "fanboys" as you call us notice the difference and are upset that the products we buy are becoming lower quality in order to satisfy the demands of another market.
I'll bite.
Consoles aren't nearly as powerful as computers so when a game is designed with both platforms in mind the developer must make a choice. Either there must be 2 versions of the game or they must build to the weaker standard.
Console users don't really notice this since they are the weaker link but PC "fanboys" as you call us notice the difference and are upset that the products we buy are becoming lower quality in order to satisfy the demands of another market.
Fair enough, I respect your opinion and even agree with you on games that are not MMO's. However lets take a look at AoC. IMO it has the best graphics in any MMO out and IMO it looks beeter than Aion. AoC is being ported to the 360 if funcom stays above water. I dont know how anyone could say that AoC was being held back on by the Devs. I could find over 100,000 people who could tell you that AoC self imploded with the problem not being 360 related.
Ok now back to PS3 and Aion. I would be willing to bet the farm that the PS3 could run Aion on medium settings. As its not as weak as some of you guys think. However if PC players were forced to play on medium settings then you have an argument and I agree with you 100%. But if you can maximize your settings then I still see no problem.
Lets do a scale of 1-100, 100 being the top notch computer money can buy and 1 being the bottom end. Now lets throw the PS3 in that scale. I figure the ps3 to be in around the 55 to 60 mark thats a decent computer. The 360 which is irrelevent to the main thread but I will throw it in since I used it in an example in the first paragragh, the 360 falls into about the 50-55 range. Both systems capable of running any MMO out there or in development. These are just my opinions as I have read alot about the consoles.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
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changed my mind.
I'll bite.
Consoles aren't nearly as powerful as computers so when a game is designed with both platforms in mind the developer must make a choice. Either there must be 2 versions of the game or they must build to the weaker standard.
Console users don't really notice this since they are the weaker link but PC "fanboys" as you call us notice the difference and are upset that the products we buy are becoming lower quality in order to satisfy the demands of another market.
Fair enough, I respect your opinion and even agree with you on games that are not MMO's. However lets take a look at AoC. IMO it has the best graphics in any MMO out and IMO it looks beeter than Aion. AoC is being ported to the 360 if funcom stays above water. I dont know how anyone could say that AoC was being held back on by the Devs. I could find over 100,000 people who could tell you that AoC self imploded with the problem not being 360 related.
Ok now back to PS3 and Aion. I would be willing to bet the farm that the PS3 could run Aion on medium settings. As its not as weak as some of you guys think. However if PC players were forced to play on medium settings then you have an argument and I agree with you 100%. But if you can maximize your settings then I still see no problem.
Lets do a scale of 1-100, 100 being the top notch computer money can buy and 1 being the bottom end. Now lets throw the PS3 in that scale. I figure the ps3 to be in around the 55 to 60 mark thats a decent computer. The 360 which is irrelevent to the main thread but I will throw it in since I used it in an example in the first paragragh, the 360 falls into about the 50-55 range. Both systems capable of running any MMO out there or in development. These are just my opinions as I have read alot about the consoles.
AoC is channeled and zoned with heavy instanced content.
Aion isn't.
My god I can just think of so many problems people playing aion on ps3 would have to deal with while playing the game.
Firstly - how the hell are players on console going to be quick firing off masses of skills without either A some stupid skill menue that takes about 10 seconds to find and select your skill or B a magical way to tripple the number of buttons avaliable on the ps3 controller.
Furthermore, I seriously doubt that it would be possible for ncsoft to create a ps3 version of Aion without it having originally being deisgned to do so before Aion sequal # 4962 has been released on pc.
If you'd like to see it released on both platforms at the same time then I storngly disagree with you because I personally would like to play Aion BEFORE I die from chronic boredom.
Generally, it would take too long to implement and seeing as PS3 players would have to play with pc users they would be at such a huge disadvantage theres really no point in playing it on ps3 at all.
Not to knock mmos on consoles that is - it would be quite fun really if you think about it. However, its just too unfair to pit two groups of players against each other when everybody knows which group is going to win before the whole thing starts.
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Pffft, I've been saying for almost 3 years that it's inevitable that MMOs do come to the console. I'm sorry for all the PC onrly peeps out there jealousy guarding their right to play MMOs and no one else, but you cannot deny the advantage of exposure and more money coming in with a larger audience. There are enough people out there who game solely on consoles and won't really consider a PC as their main gaming platform, I know it's hard to understand for us savvy computer nerds...
I'm not entirely convinced the PS3 is the right console for that simply because the thing has missed it's mark already, the 360 is more widely spread and is a great console for existing MMOs to be ported if it's even worth to bother. However it would come to no surprise to me at all that the next batch of consoles are just computers built for gaming making it possible for MMOs to be developped for all platforms. As for the gamepad phobia or the fear that console players won't be fast enough in controlling their characters crap... Puh lease, go to your local computer store and realize they are more then enough types of keyboards, mouses, joysticks to fix that whether you're on a console or PC.. That is a thing of the past get used to it.
I feel increasingly frustrated any time this topic comes up and people deny this will ever happen or attack the console community in much the same way they attack the WoW community. Yes the argument that the quality of the community will go down if the console market is brought in, however I also think that is rather egotistical and small minded to think that our community is THAT much better. And if we were, we wouldn't let something so small stop us from the bigger picture. If you put your foot down and don't accept the retarded way some people have of interacting, then it will change over time, over a score of a few years. Unless we keep attacking them and telling how retarded they are, giving them ammunition to retaliate and thus creating the atmosphere we didn't want to begin with... Often our fears are exactly what creates the things we hate. A self fulfilling prophecy if you will.
So, I refuse to look at this as a bad thing and think of the good that will come out of it. Like the fact that maybe games will last longer, maybe smaller companies will have a better chance at making games and surviving instead of folding over.... And maybe devs will make more games that are great too look at but not so demanding on specs, I guess some people love to buy a new rig or upgrade it every few years, but not everyone can do that. As long as devs continue to ignore this, unlike Blizzard and NCsoft, they won't be able to expand the market any more. The latest engine does not equal the best graphics, take Vanguard, oh sure you've got the latest shaders and everything but your models and textures look like crap, or at least not as good as they could.
All of that said, I don't think Aion will be on the Ps3 for some time if ever. I'd see older games like CoX and Guild Wars maybe Guild Wars 2 going to the Ps3 before that.
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Making this reply short: There are currently no plans for porting Aion to the PS3.
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* In order to cover my back, things I write are of course subject to change.
Just a litle note to Neyon preaching is useless
since if you play games or even write forums like this
you might aswell know one fact that there is keyboards and mouses to ps3 so wheres the disadvantage then? ps3 player sitting on the sofa with console having no troubles to upgrade a crappy pc ? maybe one look in the mirror would do a good. this is just a console hatered from you.
Given the price difference between a current-generation and a gaming PC (typically around an order of magnitude), it's inevitable that as consoles become more capable more and more genres will migrate to the platform.
Indeed, if you look back at the history of big-selling games on PC and big-selling games on consoles of that period, you'll see this shift has been going on for a long, long time. Since the NES days.
Right now the big games for PCs are MMOs, RTS, and TBS games, with FPS games still being strong but greatly diminished now that consoles can play them online (which was always the genre's biggest draw).
The one thing these games have in common is they have control schemes that can not be replicated on a controller - it's just not complex enough. And even though I'm no Wii fan, I think the controller design it has points the way forward, since it can replicate pretty much everything you can do control-wise with a mouse and keyboard (it's not directly analagous, but it has the abilty to do just as much just as quickly). Can't type, but voice chat is becoming more and more common and I think that in a generation or two nobody will type anymore in any game to talk to other people.
So yes, I think we'll eventually see good console MMOs. Just not this generation.
I am sorry to say that no MMORPG to date are fit enough for the PC's, as it should be on the consoles instead due to they're pathetic cheap programming by using up useless data's upon data's when it could've easily be written in pure low level machine code. For instant, the PC's can do much better than any MMORPG like WoW almost seamless world can easily become fully seamless world where consoles cannot even match the PC's and yet there is'nt any. With superior graphics and marvalous playability had yet to be evolved. In the old days programmer knows best without wasting any useless data's under C++ high level pathetic programming language that sit between basic and low level machine code's.
It like making a MMORPG under AMOS MMORPG construction kit.
Actually m0lly, what I said was entirely true and it is not console hatred - especially since I have my very own ps3 that I have had since release date and still play every single day. So Infact you just seem to be the console fanboy rather than me the console hater as you have obviously ignored everything I actually said.
Sure, you can hook up a keyboard and mouse into your ps3 - but wait hang on - thats not the point. Console gaming is so successful because it targets a different audiance to pc gaming. It is much easier and simpeler to do. You don't have to worry about compatability problems with your system as you know it will work and it is all already setup for you.
So, the idea of PS3 users having to buy extra add-ons and generally change the way they play on the ps3 just to stand a chance against pc players is stupid as it clashes with the entire aim of console gaming.
As I said, sure ps3 mmos would be great but imo in their current state, they would only be truely successful if they were not cross-platform yet to keep it fair. MMOs on ps3 and other consoles would be great, but imo only if you were playing against other console gamers.
So please, actually read what I say - both posotive and negative point I make before you start flaming me over the forums about something which is completely untrue.
My final point is, that it is most likely that if ncsoft does decide to release an mmo onto both console and pc don't you guys think that would be a main selling point rather than a last moment suprise?
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Way to rain on my parade...... But there is a good conversation going on about ps3 and pc MMO. So heres my 2 cents
Cross platform mmo has been done succesfully before but with PC and PS2, and later the 360 the game is called FFXI. Sure its dated now but, its like 7 years old, and 7 years ago the graphics were good. There is absolutly no reason it cant be done again but on the ps3 platform. I played FFXI for 4 years on ps2. If ps2 can handel a large world no instances with 100+ people in a small area and i mean small, cramped area camping Nidhoog, or king behemoth, then it can be done again. I even got claim several times on some HNM's in those cramped areas. So I never felt I was at to big of a disadvantage on the ps2.
So either 1 of 2 things are going on here. Option 1: Square Enix has godly devs that can figure out a great UI for computer and a great UI for a console controller. and can make it all go smoothly, Or Option 2: Other company devs cant figure out how to do it at all. But I kinow a ps3 could run any MMO out there and even any MMO in development that we know of.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
Way to rain on my parade...... But there is a good conversation going on about ps3 and pc MMO. So heres my 2 cents
Cross platform mmo has been done succesfully before but with PC and PS2, and later the 360 the game is called FFXI. Sure its dated now but, its like 7 years old, and 7 years ago the graphics were good. There is absolutly no reason it cant be done again but on the ps3 platform. I played FFXI for 4 years on ps2. If ps2 can handel seamless world no instances with 100+ people in a small area and i mean small, cramped area camping Nidhoog, or king behemoth, then it can be done again. I even got claim several times on some HNM's in those cramped areas. So I never felt I was at to big of a disadvantage on the ps2.
So either 1 of 2 things are going on here. Option 1: Square Enix has godly devs that can figure out a great UI for computer and a great UI for a console controller. and can make it all go smoothly, Or Option 2: Other company devs cant figure out how to do it at all. But I kinow a ps3 could run any MMO out there and even any MMO in development that we know of.
They cannot, at least not at high settings. Consoles are severely limited in memory, especially video memory, and this just happens to be the area that MMO games are most demanding in.
Way to rain on my parade...... But there is a good conversation going on about ps3 and pc MMO. So heres my 2 cents
Cross platform mmo has been done succesfully before but with PC and PS2, and later the 360 the game is called FFXI. Sure its dated now but, its like 7 years old, and 7 years ago the graphics were good. There is absolutly no reason it cant be done again but on the ps3 platform. I played FFXI for 4 years on ps2. If ps2 can handel seamless world no instances with 100+ people in a small area and i mean small, cramped area camping Nidhoog, or king behemoth, then it can be done again. I even got claim several times on some HNM's in those cramped areas. So I never felt I was at to big of a disadvantage on the ps2.
So either 1 of 2 things are going on here. Option 1: Square Enix has godly devs that can figure out a great UI for computer and a great UI for a console controller. and can make it all go smoothly, Or Option 2: Other company devs cant figure out how to do it at all. But I kinow a ps3 could run any MMO out there and even any MMO in development that we know of.
They cannot, at least not at high settings. Consoles are severely limited in memory, especially video memory, and this just happens to be the area that MMO games are most demanding in.
ya your right about the high settings, I should have said the ps3 can run any MMO at medium settings.
Edit: I need to fix my post before someone calls me out on it. I called FFXI a seamless world, Its not, there were short loading screens (2 seconds)
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
I just found this article about Blizzards next MMO is coming to consoles.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=26633203&tag=latestheadlines;title;2
Now with Blizzard, Ncsoft and SOE both announcing that there future MMO's will be on consoles does not look good for the main stream PC fans. THis is just more proof that were not playing on a classic Nintendo anymore. The future of MMO's appear to be on consoles to. Like it or not here they come!!!!!!!!
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
There are many problems when porting a game from PC to the console. If the servers are not multiplatform you risk cutting your nose off to spite your face. Meaning some will prefer one platform over another actualy killing the player base of one platform. If they are multiplatform servers the game has to be dumbed down for consoles and hurts the PC players. When I say dumbed down don't take it the wrong way. The controllers for the systems are limited on buttons and controls this is why the games get dummed down. Computer players have basicaly a very large configurable controller when you think about the keyboard and the mouse not to mention the countless other hardware you can buy such as the Nos pad which I love http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B0000DC643/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=172282&s=electronics
Combine that with this stuff like this http://www.alphagrips.com/store/shopping.html and http://www.xoxide.com/gaming-keyboards.html now that we've established that PC's have a variety of better controllers (Meaning you can do way more actions with 1 button press on a keyboard or gaming pad than you can on a console controller due to the limited number of buttons on a console controller) There is also the issue of upgrades. Consoles have the bad luck of not being upgradable or being very limited on upgrading with out having to buy a whole new system. This was fine back in the day but with a new console reaching around 500 dollars now days and computers getting cheaper and cheaper this makes less and less sense. Now back to upgrading, FFXI is a good example. The computer version can not live up to it's potential and the devs can't add alot of what they want because atleast half of there player base plays on PS2 and the PS2 can not handle what the computers can. In 4 to 5 years time the console version on a PS3 will suffer the same problem. While computers have changed and upgraded a lot the console can not.
All in all Consoles limit you a lot when it comes to MMO's while computers tend to set you free because you can set it up in so many different ways that any console gamer walking into your house to play a game will walk out flusterd and confused about how you manage to even log in while you find it natural. This is why many console players are shy about jumping the fence for PC gaming. It gets confusing because there is a ton more you can do. It isn't as limited. But thats just my take on it I am of course a PC Gamer. I have a PS3, Wii, 360 and several other systems and I will not play an MMO on them I have my PC's for that lol.
Ok if you say so.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Everything in my post avtually supports what you said and I agree. For now.
This is why I pointed out that we won't see MMOs majorly on the console until the nest generation of consoles as right now they are still not quite powerful enough, even though many advances have been made and today's consoles are more like mini computers then the last generation.
Also to bloster my belief is the post right above mine, SOE and NCsoft and probably Microsoft WANT MMOs to go to consoles as well as PC. That is well known now and isn't something we just wish would happen. It's in the works... Now I do agree that an MMO to be played on the console works best if you design it that way from the ground up, kinda like the only PvP games worth mentioning are built for PvP from the ground up..
And yes I so personally still prefer my PC over any console simply because I like control, I like to tweak my settings and consoles are limited that way.
edit: Also by MMOs we're not really talking about RTS and twitch based are we? Most MMOs are slower paced then that and have targeting and a million button to click on, which is actually really easy to do with FFXI's macro system...
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console mmo's are marketed for the very casual gamer.
There was nothing casual about FFXI