hmm yeh i did read that but kind of hoped that even in skill based system you can be a 'class' - but yeh, looks like its going to be classes, quests and levels and no sandbox heres hoping theres no frackin instances at least
Instances are something I'd definitely bet on . The whole story oriented formula screams zones and instances to me , I could be wrong ,I hope I'm wrong , However I doubt I am.
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Yeah but KOTOR 3 is not the name of the game. thats a sp game.
I posted this in reply to sinjin, who seems to believe that a KOTOR 3 is in the works instead of the KOTOR MMO which people are currently more leaning towards.
The official post that BioWare is NOT working on KOTOR 3 should clear that theory up right away.
Out of all the star wars games ive played, the list of the ones worth playing was very short.
1 - kotor
2- kotor 2
3 - jedi academy
4 - jedi oucast
A kotor with online elements made by bioware will sitll be better tehn any current star wars game out to date. Actually i think the force unleashed will do teh series justice but lets face it, as vast and as promising as the star wars IP is, a bunch of inept monkies have been charged with the task of turning it into a decent game, and they have failed repeatidly.
Out of all the games that shouldve been great mmos, Star wars, dungeons and dragons and lord of the rings should be the 3 IP running the packs, but they have 3 of the worst mmos to date. Its time to let bioware have its shot without trying to cut the companies legs off before they even get started.
Kotor 3 = single player
Star wars - the old repbublic = the mmo
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Yeah but KOTOR 3 is not the name of the game. thats a sp game.
I posted this in reply to sinjin, who seems to believe that a KOTOR 3 is in the works instead of the KOTOR MMO which people are currently more leaning towards.
The official post that BioWare is NOT working on KOTOR 3 should clear that theory up right away.
You're wrong. It is called Kotor Online, it will be a Kotor with a few multiplayer element's. Co-op play etc...
Also it is Bioware, their games are super linear and suck. NWN, wtf is that shit about, I'd rather play Ultima Online.
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Yeah but KOTOR 3 is not the name of the game. thats a sp game.
I posted this in reply to sinjin, who seems to believe that a KOTOR 3 is in the works instead of the KOTOR MMO which people are currently more leaning towards.
The official post that BioWare is NOT working on KOTOR 3 should clear that theory up right away.
You're wrong. It is called Kotor Online, it will be a Kotor with a few multiplayer element's. Co-op play etc...
Also it is Bioware, their games are super linear and suck. NWN, wtf is that shit about, I'd rather play Ultima Online.
You are not the end all and be all of games mate. Many people have a very different opinion on BioWare's games, but if you don#t like them, then that is your prerogative and I hope you enjoy other games. Leave us to enjoy the ones we like, mh?
And since BioWare say they are not working on a new KOTOR, your alleged insider info is still rather untrustworthy. The name LucasFilm trademarked is Star Wars: The Old Republic.
Sinjin with your garbage topic thread and the comment you just made. You are the second person to be blocked by me.
Hope you feel special. You have contributed nothing and only tried to start a flame war. If you wanted us to have any reason to think what you said is true. Then you need to provide evidence. And you have miserably failed at that and have only flamed a company and their games.
So enjoy being blocked i love blocking scrubs like your self.
Sinjin with your garbage topic thread and the comment you just made. You are the second person to be blocked by me.
Hope you feel special. You have contributed nothing and only tried to start a flame war. If you wanted us to have any reason to think what you said is true. Then you need to provide evidence. And you have miserably failed at that and have only flamed a company and their games.
So enjoy being blocked i love blocking scrubs like your self.
Im not here to make anyone believe nore force this upon the masses. Just remember this name in the near future.
Then why post at all? This is just a way to draw attention and add fuel to a different rumor. If the rumor were true, I wouldn't really mind. I'd love to see a MMO in the Clone War Era. But that's not the point.
It's not going to be SWG and it's not going to be clone wars, it's going to be Old Republic.
Bioware wants to create a game that renders some monthly profit. You guys are idiots if you think that they will label their KOTOR Online an "MMO" merely because it has online capabilities. Do you think people are going to pay 15 bucks per month for an online component like Jedi Academy?
i kind of believe sinjin you know why? Because lucasarts and bioware are going to make bank with a single player and mmo coming out whether together or not e wont know until it happens but i would be willing to be that it happens and that they also keep SWG afloat and online during all of this. lol its so messed up it has to be true....
Evan Van Zelfden in Los Angeles warns, watch out World of Warcraft. In an interview at E3 this week, Electronic Arts chief executive John Riccitiello said that EA is working on the next version of Star Wars game Knights of the Old Republic, and it will most certainly have a massively multiplayer online component to it.
"We've got two of the most compelling MMOs in the industry in development," said Riccitiello. The first title, based on the Warhammer property, will launch soon. "And the one that people are dying for us to talk to them about -- in partnership with Lucas, coming out of BioWare, which is, I think, quite possibly the most anticipated game, full stop, for the industry at the point when we get closer to telling you about it."
Does Riccitiello mean the oft rumored Knights of the Old Republic Online? "Yes," he said.
Moving into MMOs is an essential component for any gaming company, and it's a big part of the reason Vivendi merged with Activision, for that company's World of Warcraft MMO.
Riccitiello told Portfolio.com that he was interested in owning World of Warcraft, and that he did discuss it, but it wasn't in the cards. "Because [Vivendi] couldn't afford control of EA, and I wasn't giving it up."
But EA is firmly on that path now, with a KOTOR MMO, which would sidestep the consoles owned by Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo. "Increasingly, people are going to be talking about direct-to-customer in our business," said Riccitiello. "I think we'll be talking about it louder than most."
Today, two-thirds of the game industry is console systems and dedicated handhelds. "We expect in 2011 for it to be fifty-percent," Riccitiello said.
MMOs will also be useful as a way to expand into foreign territories.
"China's a growth market for us," he said. "We're launching some mid-session games on a micro-transaction model." In May of last year, the company announced an equity investment in a leading Chinese online game operator, The9, Ltd. "And there's a bunch more coming that we haven't announced. "
The company has stated that M&A is part of the strategy, and EA is looking for core game companies "only when they bring great [intellectual property] and great teams," he said. The company is also interested in businesses that "help us build our platform in the area of Asia, online, and direct-to-consumer."
"One is strategic and new, one is core and profitable -- and we're looking at both," explained Riccitiello.
Future games aside, Riccitiello is most proud of EA's revenues, its console-business growth, and what's currently on display to the army of reviewers and game journalists in Los Angeles this week.
"We added almost a billion dollars to the revenue last year," he notes. "This year, we've told the street that we're going to add a billion to a billion-three."
And console games are a market that's doing well. "It's grown 30 percent year-to-date," says Riccitiello. "All three of the consoles are way up. The PC business in terms of it's aggregate of subscriptions/micro-transactions is also way up. "
But at the end of the day, it's about the games themselves.
"I think, hands down, there's not a publisher or a platform that's got what we've got," he says. In his own life, he sees how EA's games are making an impact: "I've got twenty-two nephews and nieces. A couple years there, I couldn't buy everything I wanted for them at the holidays. I can do the entire holiday -- and capture my mother for the first time -- at the EA store. That's never been the case before."
Evan Van Zelfden in Los Angeles warns, watch out World of Warcraft. In an interview at E3 this week, Electronic Arts chief executive John Riccitiello said that EA is working on the next version of Star Wars game Knights of the Old Republic, and it will most certainly have a massively multiplayer online component to it.
LOL!! I smell POWNT. Trust someone's "word" or trust a link quoting an official employee
Originally posted by sinjin Serious, it is not an MMO. It is the same as Kotor but with some multiplayer action, I know this and do not need to divulge my sources. The real SW MMO is being developed along side this game but will be Clone Wars era based and not a Kotor MMO. The new SW MMO will be announced soon and will be released in 2009, it will run along side the tv series starting up in 2009.
People who use anonymous sources usually establish their credibility over time. I'm not familiar with you. Have you made many other statements gathered from anonymous sources that establish your credibility?
Serious, it is not an MMO. It is the same as Kotor but with some multiplayer action, I know this and do not need to divulge my sources. The real SW MMO is being developed along side this game but will be Clone Wars era based and not a Kotor MMO.
The new SW MMO will be announced soon and will be released in 2009, it will run along side the tv series starting up in 2009.
People who use anonymous sources usually establish their credibility over time. I'm not familiar with you. Have you made many other statements gathered from anonymous sources that establish your credibility?
Good point Fisher. Really all of this seems to come from the wording of the EA guy during his interview. Something about it being a KOTR with an "MMO component" if I remember correctly. What does an MMO component mean? Beats the hell outa me lol. I guess we'll see in time.
Either way, I'm looking forward to it--full out MMO or MMO component.
Never thought it was Kotor Online anyway iot was always going to be its own entity only thing from Kotor you could take to a MMO is early timeline and the name you couldnt use any of the game mechanic's in a mmo setting they just wouldnt work.
Serious, it is not an MMO. It is the same as Kotor but with some multiplayer action, I know this and do not need to divulge my sources. The real SW MMO is being developed along side this game but will be Clone Wars era based and not a Kotor MMO.
If this is true and it behaves like Bioware's Neverwinter Nights multiplayer ability, only with the graphics of Knights of the Old Republic AND game play; I will be over joyed!
It would mean persistant worlds, like what exists for the multi community for NWN and NWN2, will finally become a reality and it will be supported.
Lot of modders have come up with extra content...and the content that was released by BW was pretty tasty IMO. Kind of liking NWN2 better for their modules thus far....but that is neither here nor there.
But that isnt what I was getting from the various quotes.
My interpretation was a linear/content laden game with defined roles.
So far away from the sandbox concept, that some vets are gonna be screaming "bloody murder".
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
You brought no links, no proofs, and when being refuted you just say someone's wrong and goes on without bringing proof to anything... Sure, that's the right way to win an argument...
Anyway, only time will tell, and you sir will not be remember as anything really...
Besides they said "MMO" in this announcement and use SWG and LOTOR as examples of how this MMO is going to have more content. Or at least content Bioware feels they don't have. They also mention how some nay sayers said they should have just done KOTOR 3 and they said there was enough content here for a KOTOR 3-9.
Until we get more details sure maybe it's not but at this point I believe it is a full blown MMO based on what they have said; literaly.
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Either way, I look forward to trying it.
I like Clone Wars - I think it has a lot of potential.
Instances are something I'd definitely bet on . The whole story oriented formula screams zones and instances to me , I could be wrong ,I hope I'm wrong , However I doubt I am.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I posted this in reply to sinjin, who seems to believe that a KOTOR 3 is in the works instead of the KOTOR MMO which people are currently more leaning towards.
The official post that BioWare is NOT working on KOTOR 3 should clear that theory up right away.
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Final Fantasy 7
Out of all the star wars games ive played, the list of the ones worth playing was very short.
1 - kotor
2- kotor 2
3 - jedi academy
4 - jedi oucast
A kotor with online elements made by bioware will sitll be better tehn any current star wars game out to date. Actually i think the force unleashed will do teh series justice but lets face it, as vast and as promising as the star wars IP is, a bunch of inept monkies have been charged with the task of turning it into a decent game, and they have failed repeatidly.
Out of all the games that shouldve been great mmos, Star wars, dungeons and dragons and lord of the rings should be the 3 IP running the packs, but they have 3 of the worst mmos to date. Its time to let bioware have its shot without trying to cut the companies legs off before they even get started.
Kotor 3 = single player
Star wars - the old repbublic = the mmo
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Life... is the shit that happens while you wait for moments that never come - Lester Freeman
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I posted this in reply to sinjin, who seems to believe that a KOTOR 3 is in the works instead of the KOTOR MMO which people are currently more leaning towards.
The official post that BioWare is NOT working on KOTOR 3 should clear that theory up right away.
You're wrong. It is called Kotor Online, it will be a Kotor with a few multiplayer element's. Co-op play etc...
Also it is Bioware, their games are super linear and suck. NWN, wtf is that shit about, I'd rather play Ultima Online.
I posted this in reply to sinjin, who seems to believe that a KOTOR 3 is in the works instead of the KOTOR MMO which people are currently more leaning towards.
The official post that BioWare is NOT working on KOTOR 3 should clear that theory up right away.
You're wrong. It is called Kotor Online, it will be a Kotor with a few multiplayer element's. Co-op play etc...
Also it is Bioware, their games are super linear and suck. NWN, wtf is that shit about, I'd rather play Ultima Online.
You are not the end all and be all of games mate. Many people have a very different opinion on BioWare's games, but if you don#t like them, then that is your prerogative and I hope you enjoy other games. Leave us to enjoy the ones we like, mh?
And since BioWare say they are not working on a new KOTOR, your alleged insider info is still rather untrustworthy. The name LucasFilm trademarked is Star Wars: The Old Republic.
Anyway. Havve fun in Ultima!!!
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Sinjin with your garbage topic thread and the comment you just made. You are the second person to be blocked by me.
Hope you feel special. You have contributed nothing and only tried to start a flame war. If you wanted us to have any reason to think what you said is true. Then you need to provide evidence. And you have miserably failed at that and have only flamed a company and their games.
So enjoy being blocked i love blocking scrubs like your self.
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Then why post at all? This is just a way to draw attention and add fuel to a different rumor. If the rumor were true, I wouldn't really mind. I'd love to see a MMO in the Clone War Era. But that's not the point.
It's not going to be SWG and it's not going to be clone wars, it's going to be Old Republic.
http://gamezig.com/mmorpg/should-kotor-resemble-swg
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Bioware wants to create a game that renders some monthly profit. You guys are idiots if you think that they will label their KOTOR Online an "MMO" merely because it has online capabilities. Do you think people are going to pay 15 bucks per month for an online component like Jedi Academy?
i kind of believe sinjin you know why? Because lucasarts and bioware are going to make bank with a single player and mmo coming out whether together or not e wont know until it happens but i would be willing to be that it happens and that they also keep SWG afloat and online during all of this. lol its so messed up it has to be true....
http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/the-tech-observer/2008/07/17/ea-to-play-in-knights-of-the-old-republic
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Jul 17 2008 12:44PM EDT
EA to Play in Knights of the Old Republic
Evan Van Zelfden in Los Angeles warns, watch out World of Warcraft. In an interview at E3 this week, Electronic Arts chief executive John Riccitiello said that EA is working on the next version of Star Wars game Knights of the Old Republic, and it will most certainly have a massively multiplayer online component to it.
"We've got two of the most compelling MMOs in the industry in development," said Riccitiello. The first title, based on the Warhammer property, will launch soon. "And the one that people are dying for us to talk to them about -- in partnership with Lucas, coming out of BioWare, which is, I think, quite possibly the most anticipated game, full stop, for the industry at the point when we get closer to telling you about it."
Does Riccitiello mean the oft rumored Knights of the Old Republic Online? "Yes," he said.
Moving into MMOs is an essential component for any gaming company, and it's a big part of the reason Vivendi merged with Activision, for that company's World of Warcraft MMO.
Riccitiello told Portfolio.com that he was interested in owning World of Warcraft, and that he did discuss it, but it wasn't in the cards. "Because [Vivendi] couldn't afford control of EA, and I wasn't giving it up."
But EA is firmly on that path now, with a KOTOR MMO, which would sidestep the consoles owned by Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo. "Increasingly, people are going to be talking about direct-to-customer in our business," said Riccitiello. "I think we'll be talking about it louder than most."
Today, two-thirds of the game industry is console systems and dedicated handhelds. "We expect in 2011 for it to be fifty-percent," Riccitiello said.
MMOs will also be useful as a way to expand into foreign territories.
"China's a growth market for us," he said. "We're launching some mid-session games on a micro-transaction model." In May of last year, the company announced an equity investment in a leading Chinese online game operator, The9, Ltd. "And there's a bunch more coming that we haven't announced. "
The company has stated that M&A is part of the strategy, and EA is looking for core game companies "only when they bring great [intellectual property] and great teams," he said. The company is also interested in businesses that "help us build our platform in the area of Asia, online, and direct-to-consumer."
"One is strategic and new, one is core and profitable -- and we're looking at both," explained Riccitiello.
Future games aside, Riccitiello is most proud of EA's revenues, its console-business growth, and what's currently on display to the army of reviewers and game journalists in Los Angeles this week.
"We added almost a billion dollars to the revenue last year," he notes. "This year, we've told the street that we're going to add a billion to a billion-three."
And console games are a market that's doing well. "It's grown 30 percent year-to-date," says Riccitiello. "All three of the consoles are way up. The PC business in terms of it's aggregate of subscriptions/micro-transactions is also way up. "
But at the end of the day, it's about the games themselves.
"I think, hands down, there's not a publisher or a platform that's got what we've got," he says. In his own life, he sees how EA's games are making an impact: "I've got twenty-two nephews and nieces. A couple years there, I couldn't buy everything I wanted for them at the holidays. I can do the entire holiday -- and capture my mother for the first time -- at the EA store. That's never been the case before."
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LOL!! I smell POWNT. Trust someone's "word" or trust a link quoting an official employee
HMMMMMMMMmmm
More people need to be made aware of this.
People who use anonymous sources usually establish their credibility over time. I'm not familiar with you. Have you made many other statements gathered from anonymous sources that establish your credibility?
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People who use anonymous sources usually establish their credibility over time. I'm not familiar with you. Have you made many other statements gathered from anonymous sources that establish your credibility?
Good point Fisher. Really all of this seems to come from the wording of the EA guy during his interview. Something about it being a KOTR with an "MMO component" if I remember correctly. What does an MMO component mean? Beats the hell outa me lol. I guess we'll see in time.
Either way, I'm looking forward to it--full out MMO or MMO component.
Never thought it was Kotor Online anyway iot was always going to be its own entity only thing from Kotor you could take to a MMO is early timeline and the name you couldnt use any of the game mechanic's in a mmo setting they just wouldnt work.
My source being me said so.
If this is true and it behaves like Bioware's Neverwinter Nights multiplayer ability, only with the graphics of Knights of the Old Republic AND game play; I will be over joyed!
It would mean persistant worlds, like what exists for the multi community for NWN and NWN2, will finally become a reality and it will be supported.
No doubt! And people like me can mod the hel out of it and make my own story. just like many have done with freelancer: http://www.fileplanet.com/183776/180000/fileinfo/Freelancer---Star-Wars:-Tides--of-War-mod
I am down with a SW game that is akin to NWN.
Lot of modders have come up with extra content...and the content that was released by BW was pretty tasty IMO. Kind of liking NWN2 better for their modules thus far....but that is neither here nor there.
But that isnt what I was getting from the various quotes.
My interpretation was a linear/content laden game with defined roles.
So far away from the sandbox concept, that some vets are gonna be screaming "bloody murder".
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
I'm sorry, aware of WHAT?
You brought no links, no proofs, and when being refuted you just say someone's wrong and goes on without bringing proof to anything... Sure, that's the right way to win an argument...
Anyway, only time will tell, and you sir will not be remember as anything really...
Current MMO: FFXIV:ARR
Past MMO: Way too many (P2P and F2P)
To OP: FAILED
Correction: EPIC FAILED
http://pc.ign.com/articles/922/922115p2.html
Besides they said "MMO" in this announcement and use SWG and LOTOR as examples of how this MMO is going to have more content. Or at least content Bioware feels they don't have. They also mention how some nay sayers said they should have just done KOTOR 3 and they said there was enough content here for a KOTOR 3-9.
Until we get more details sure maybe it's not but at this point I believe it is a full blown MMO based on what they have said; literaly.
"Suddenly, thousands of Trekies whose heads are full of facts of things like the stardate when the Cardassians farted on Deep Space nine are irrlelevant." - hardcoremoviecritic