Originally posted by Annekynn PvE, simply because on the PvE servers you can pvp all you want, but if you dont want to pvp you dont have to worry about being ganked while you are questing etc.--------------------Played: Asheron's Call 1, Dark Age of Camelot, Earth & Beyond, Star Wars Galaxies Tested: Asheron's Call 1, Asheron's Call 2, Dark Age of Camelot, Eve Online, Lineage 2, Risk Your Life, Saga of Ryzom, World of Warcraft Uninstalled ASAP: MU Online, Knight Online, Rubies of Eventide, Priston Tales, Star Sonata, DarkSpace
i think that thats the holle idea...the fact that it will be dangerous werever you go...to show us that the war between orc and man is still there and never leave...it really adds to the warcraft ambiance wich is great....so i say pvp all the way!
At the moment, the poll keeps wavering at 50/50. If you can't see how your comments were a direct insult to any one of those people planning to play PvE.....then you, my friend, are a moron. (and for the record, that was a personal insult)
You could have stated your reasons for not liking PvE without calling it a "carebear hug and smooches bs fest" or saying "Don't be sceeerrred. Suck it up." Some posters in this thread have mentioned that they don't like PvE because it's not true to a world that has been at war for thousands of years. Now...that's a non-insulting way of stating an opinion about PvE.
Originally posted by moukin Some posters in this thread have mentioned that they don't like PvE because it's not true to a world that has been at war for thousands of years. Now...that's a non-insulting way of stating an opinion about PvE.
Ok so you are saying instead of posting my thoughts the way I did. I shouldve just posted that all none-pvp servers are essentially "fake" due to the lore(not true to the world = fake). Which overall is saying people who play on a non-pvp server are fake. And that isn't insulting in the least. Somone telling you you are fake.
Jeez starting to beleive what everyone is saying about how Blizzard fans are little kids. I have to type like I'm writing a freakin children's book and sugar coat everything I say so the children won't have to put on their "earmuffs". If you get insulted about what someone writes in a forum, than that sounds more like a personal problem to me.
Ok so you are saying instead of posting my thoughts the way I did. I shouldve just posted that all none-pvp servers are essentially "fake" due to the lore(not true to the world = fake). Which overall is saying people who play on a non-pvp server are fake. And that isn't insulting in the least. Somone telling you you are fake.
Jeez starting to beleive what everyone is saying about how Blizzard fans are little kids. I have type like I'm writing a freakin children's book and sugar coat everything I say so the children won't have to put on their "earmuffs". If you get insulted about what someone writes in a forum, than that sounds more like a personal problem to me.
*chuckle* you are ranting about people getting upset over posts in a post of your own . Welcome to hypocracy, enjoy your stay!
Actually what you could have said was; Personally I don't like semi pvp servers as to me they have no point...then stated your arguement. Well you have your point of view and others have theirs but I can see that I touched a nerve before so maybe you should think why others respond in a similar fashion to your posts.
Originally posted by Innferno In answer to the original poster I think possibly PVE to start with and then take a view on another char on a PVP server later. I've played a lot of open PVP games and invariably it ends in a gank fest. For those that don't play 24/7 it can be more than just a bit of a nuisance. It all depends on how blizz finally sets up the rules for each. Maybe, as mentioned, the PVP honour system will prevent the gankers but we'll have to wait and see.
Interestingly, I'm seeing posts on the beta boards that say the honor system ruined PvP. They say before, if you stumbled across a player of the opposing faction, there was always a bit of tension and sort of sizing each other up moment. Is he going to attack me? Maybe it's not worth his time. Should I attack him? If he's not going to bother me, maybe we'll just go our separate ways....etc.
Now, it's highly unlikely that you won't be attacked, simply because players are out to get their honor points.
The previous way seemed to be a little more realistic as far as the world goes. You come across someone of the opposing faction and you can't understand a word they say, so you both sort of pause to wonder what the other person is going to do and if you should do something about it first.
Other people in that thread seem to think that is a small loss and that it's nicer now that people aren't attacking really low level characters anymore. Perhaps the honor rewards are good enough that the honor system will work. Maybe it just needs a little more tweaking.
Certainly food for thought. I'm wondering though if the people complaining are actually the ones that enjoyed the newbie ganking but dress up their complaint in another manner. I have seen it ruin games for new players only a few months after launch. It also hits 'casual' gamers harder than the rest.
Personally I feel that you should be rewarded for fighting with some honour and like real life all wars have rules. It is rare to find someone honoured for walking into a town and killing indiscriminately but you would be expected, as a soldier in a war, to attack your enemy on sight (unless of course there is a greater goal that requires stealth).
Certainly food for thought. I'm wondering though if the people complaining are actually the ones that enjoyed the newbie ganking but dress up their complaint in another manner. I have seen it ruin games for new players only a few months after launch. It also hits 'casual' gamers harder than the rest. Personally I feel that you should be rewarded for fighting with some honour and like real life all wars have rules. It is rare to find someone honoured for walking into a town and killing indiscriminately but you would be expected, as a soldier in a war, to attack your enemy on sight (unless of course there is a greater goal that requires stealth).
Very good points. Blizz is trying hard to provide a way to make it fun for everyone and not ruin the game experience for those players who can't powerlevel to the top. That's a hard balance to strike to make it realistically war-like but make it fair to all the players as well.
People can think of me whatever they want. You are a prime example of ignorance and fit the phrase" Don't judge a book by it's cover". Saying I'm a jerk because of my sig and name is like saying someone worships satan because they have an eyebrow ring and listen to metal. Just shows that you obviously don't have the mental capacity to think any different. It's sad.
Don't like my statement, great. Don't post a discussion thread on something if you don't want it to be discussed good or bad.Like omg someone disagrees with my ideas, he's like obviously a jerk like omg! If my statements in a forum really get you worked up than you should sit by yourself in a closet. That way you never take the risk of someone criticizing your ideas.
p.s. do you evan know what a personal insult is? lets break it down for mr. NoFrontalLobe guy personal- relating to a person Insult- too effect damigingly. I discussed my views on why I like pvp and dislike pve only, the end. Has the Clue Train made it's stop at you yet? Don't worry just play on the tracks and hope to jesus you get hit.
Actually i based my opinion on the name, the sig AND what you write in your posts. Seeing as how it is all I have to base my opinions on, as does anyone else here, i think you'll find you're wrong.
I also like a good discussion, but I feel I don't need to be aggressive to get my point across. If you disagree that is your perogative, i never asked you to stop posting *shrug*.
Dont know how the Daoc servers in the USA is on PvP. But the European PvP server, Camlan is a text book on how a PvP server should not be 24/7 powergamers jumping all and everybody for their presious "RP" or just because they hate their lifes . No reason too belive the 24/7 powergamers will not do the same in WoW, only this time is "Valour" instead of "RP".
Originally posted by Fjoffe Dont know how the Daoc servers in the USA is on PvP. But the European PvP server, Camlan is a text book on how a PvP server should not be 24/7 powergamers jumping all and everybody for their presious "RP" or just because they hate their lifes . No reason too belive the 24/7 powergamers will not do the same in WoW, only this time is "Valour" instead of "RP".
I think you misunderstand the system. In DAOC you are rewarded for any kill, regardless of the level gap. In WoW if you kill someone too many levels below you actually lose....
Originally posted by Fjoffe Dont know how the Daoc servers in the USA is on PvP. But the European PvP server, Camlan is a text book on how a PvP server should not be 24/7 powergamers jumping all and everybody for their presious "RP" or just because they hate their lifes . No reason too belive the 24/7 powergamers will not do the same in WoW, only this time is "Valour" instead of "RP".
I think you misunderstand the system. In DAOC you are rewarded for any kill, regardless of the level gap. In WoW if you kill someone too many levels below you actually lose....
Ahhh nice then this could actually work. Much more opptimistic abt PvP server now.
I would personally go with with PVP. Between huge city raids and grouping with your buddies in the Hills to give the alliance some owange, PVP will be very fun. I like the concept on how you dont talk or level with the opposite faction but there will be enough people on your faction itself just to group and do quests.
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Originally posted by dmitri84 you should play on PvP server, PvE for pussies. ∙name: EViLD0G ∙clan: [EXE] ∙playing: WoW, EQ, SIMS, AC, AC2, DAoC, FFXI, AW, RS ∙planning: WoW, EQ2, GW, DnL
Hi. You're a little late in the conversation for flaming and trolling, but thanks for your oh-so-constructive input.
Originally posted by Narco28 Yes. Cause you really know what my true tone is through me typing on a computer in a forum. Oh, maybe I shoulda thrown some faces in there so they can truely show my expressions in real life and you'll absolutely know what my tone is all about... Or, maybe relax and calm yourself. You're in a forum. No need to foam at that mouth. You don't like PVP. Awesome. From what I know about wow it's horde vs alliance. Basically meaning horde and alliance battle eachother. Not call eachother names and maybe a /duel slap fight once in a while if the carebear fest go's sour. But that's just how I think. But i'm sorry, didnt mean to get your panties bunched.
there does that fully clarify my tone?
"Better to be thought a fool then to speak and remove all doubt." There does that clear up my tone?
Your 'She-Ra' attitude isn't impressing anyone so I suggest stop worring about her panties and stop crunching up yours.
Originally posted by Rhevin I'm having a hard time finding "omg" in the dictionary.... I hope the chat screen isn't going to be covered in those phrases. Reading "LFG", "WTB", "WTS", "lol", and "wtf" and the countless others doesn't appeal to me. But that's just me. I mean, I can have an opinion right? ________________________
Yeah prob is that most people will NOT roleplay and I REALLY got tired of getting poked at because I want to. So with that and the difficulty of staying in char while not being allowed to speak as I wanted I just gave up trying to RP.
In the end, I think I've decided to try a little PvP server action during open beta. When the game goes retail, I'm going to go with my original plan to play on the PvE servers until such time as boredom may set in. Then I'll see what the PvP experience has to offer me.
Originally posted by dmitri84 you should play on PvP server, PvE for pussies. ∙name: EViLD0G ∙clan: [EXE] ∙playing: WoW, EQ, SIMS, AC, AC2, DAoC, FFXI, AW, RS ∙planning: WoW, EQ2, GW, DnL
Your gene pool is equivilant to that of a rain drop isn't it?
Originally posted by Narco28 none-pvp you can't raid alliance towns and throw people beatings. that's not fun. plus what's the point of getting really good gear if you can only use it on the same boss mobs you got it from,boring. Definetly gotta be able to smash someone's face in the dirt if they cross me the wrong way. I'm not into all that carebear hug and smooches bs fest. Just thinking about that might make me projectile vomit. Getting you're A$$ handed to you is a part of life. I can't wait till someone throws me a beating. And from what I've heard about wow anyway, dyeing is only a "10 second inconvenience". As apposed to when I played eq and getting hammered sometimes meant 4 hour C.R.Don't be sceeerrred. Suck it up. edit: in pve only don't you have to like /duel if you want to wrastle with someone? oh man don't get into a heated argument with someone. They might /duel YOU!
Originally posted by Realmreaver Originally posted by dmitri84 you should play on PvP server, PvE for pussies. ∙name: EViLD0G ∙clan: [EXE]∙playing: WoW, EQ, SIMS, AC, AC2, DAoC, FFXI, AW, RS∙planning: WoW, EQ2, GW, DnLYour gene pool is equivilant to that of a rain drop isn't it?Former Stress Tester of the guild Stress Tester.
thats funny:
"Eventually, swimbots get better at pursuing each other, competing for food, and becoming babes to other swimbots. Local gene pools emerge which compete for sex and food (for energy to have more sex). Eventually a dominant sub-population takes over. "
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Originally posted by moukin Originally posted by dmitri84 you should play on PvP server, PvE for pussies. ∙name: EViLD0G ∙clan: [EXE]∙playing: WoW, EQ, SIMS, AC, AC2, DAoC, FFXI, AW, RS∙planning: WoW, EQ2, GW, DnLHi. You're a little late in the conversation for flaming and trolling, but thanks for your oh-so-constructive input.
I bet you will play on PvE server couse PvP is not for everyone. What I mean is why would someone want to play on PvE server when PvP server has all the futures of PvE server. I got only one answer for this either you are complete moron who dont understand anything in mmorpgs or just scared of been killed (pussies). ))
Originally posted by dmitri84 Originally posted by moukin Originally posted by dmitri84 you should play on PvP server, PvE for pussies. ∙name: EViLD0G ∙clan: [EXE]∙playing: WoW, EQ, SIMS, AC, AC2, DAoC, FFXI, AW, RS∙planning: WoW, EQ2, GW, DnLHi. You're a little late in the conversation for flaming and trolling, but thanks for your oh-so-constructive input.
I bet you will play on PvE server couse PvP is not for everyone. What I mean is why would someone want to play on PvE server when PvP server has all the futures of PvE server. I got only one answer for this either you are complete moron who dont understand anything in mmorpgs or just scared of been killed (pussies). ))
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i think that thats the holle idea...the fact that it will be dangerous werever you go...to show us that the war between orc and man is still there and never leave...it really adds to the warcraft ambiance wich is great....so i say pvp all the way!
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You could have stated your reasons for not liking PvE without calling it a "carebear hug and smooches bs fest" or saying "Don't be sceeerrred. Suck it up." Some posters in this thread have mentioned that they don't like PvE because it's not true to a world that has been at war for thousands of years. Now...that's a non-insulting way of stating an opinion about PvE.
Jeez starting to beleive what everyone is saying about how Blizzard fans are little kids. I have to type like I'm writing a freakin children's book and sugar coat everything I say so the children won't have to put on their "earmuffs". If you get insulted about what someone writes in a forum, than that sounds more like a personal problem to me.
Jeez starting to beleive what everyone is saying about how Blizzard fans are little kids. I have type like I'm writing a freakin children's book and sugar coat everything I say so the children won't have to put on their "earmuffs". If you get insulted about what someone writes in a forum, than that sounds more like a personal problem to me.
*chuckle* you are ranting about people getting upset over posts in a post of your own
Actually what you could have said was; Personally I don't like semi pvp servers as to me they have no point...then stated your arguement. Well you have your point of view and others have theirs but I can see that I touched a nerve before so maybe you should think why others respond in a similar fashion to your posts.
Interestingly, I'm seeing posts on the beta boards that say the honor system ruined PvP. They say before, if you stumbled across a player of the opposing faction, there was always a bit of tension and sort of sizing each other up moment. Is he going to attack me? Maybe it's not worth his time. Should I attack him? If he's not going to bother me, maybe we'll just go our separate ways....etc.
Now, it's highly unlikely that you won't be attacked, simply because players are out to get their honor points.
The previous way seemed to be a little more realistic as far as the world goes. You come across someone of the opposing faction and you can't understand a word they say, so you both sort of pause to wonder what the other person is going to do and if you should do something about it first.
Other people in that thread seem to think that is a small loss and that it's nicer now that people aren't attacking really low level characters anymore. Perhaps the honor rewards are good enough that the honor system will work. Maybe it just needs a little more tweaking.
note: these are not my opinions as I haven't experienced the game enough on either server type, here's the thread if you're interested in reading what they have to say about it : http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=422976&p=1#post422976
Certainly food for thought. I'm wondering though if the people complaining are actually the ones that enjoyed the newbie ganking but dress up their complaint in another manner. I have seen it ruin games for new players only a few months after launch. It also hits 'casual' gamers harder than the rest.
Personally I feel that you should be rewarded for fighting with some honour and like real life all wars have rules. It is rare to find someone honoured for walking into a town and killing indiscriminately but you would be expected, as a soldier in a war, to attack your enemy on sight (unless of course there is a greater goal that requires stealth).
Don't like my statement, great. Don't post a discussion thread on something if you don't want it to be discussed good or bad.Like omg someone disagrees with my ideas, he's like obviously a jerk like omg! If my statements in a forum really get you worked up than you should sit by yourself in a closet. That way you never take the risk of someone criticizing your ideas.
p.s. do you evan know what a personal insult is? lets break it down for mr. NoFrontalLobe guy
personal- relating to a person
Insult- too effect damigingly.
I discussed my views on why I like pvp and dislike pve only, the end. Has the Clue Train made it's stop at you yet? Don't worry just play on the tracks and hope to jesus you get hit.
Actually i based my opinion on the name, the sig AND what you write in your posts. Seeing as how it is all I have to base my opinions on, as does anyone else here, i think you'll find you're wrong.
I also like a good discussion, but I feel I don't need to be aggressive to get my point across. If you disagree that is your perogative, i never asked you to stop posting *shrug*.
Dont know how the Daoc servers in the USA is on PvP. But the European PvP server, Camlan is a text book on how a PvP server should not be
24/7 powergamers jumping all and everybody for their presious "RP" or just because they hate their lifes 
. No reason too belive the 24/7 powergamers will not do the same in WoW, only this time is "Valour" instead of "RP".
Ahhh nice
you should play on PvP server, PvE for pussies.
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Former Stress Tester of the guild Stress Tester.
Realmreaver formally of EQ, SWG, FFXI and WoW.
Malis/Pirotess of PSO.
Some named of Diablo 1 and 2
Grendel Kinguard of GW.
Former Stress Tester of the guild Stress Tester.
Realmreaver formally of EQ, SWG, FFXI and WoW.
Malis/Pirotess of PSO.
Some named of Diablo 1 and 2
Grendel Kinguard of GW.
PvP is the true end game. All PvE does is help you get the best gear in order to succeed in PvP
thats funny:
"Eventually, swimbots get better at pursuing each other, competing for food, and becoming babes to other swimbots. Local gene pools emerge which compete for sex and food (for energy to have more sex). Eventually a dominant sub-population takes over. "
gene pools rule no matter what size they are
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Personally, I think the gene pool is stagnant, and I'm the minster of chlorine.
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I bet you will play on PvE server couse PvP is not for everyone. What I mean is why would someone want to play on PvE server when PvP server has all the futures of PvE server. I got only one answer for this either you are complete moron who dont understand anything in mmorpgs or just scared of been killed (pussies).
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I bet you will play on PvE server couse PvP is not for everyone. What I mean is why would someone want to play on PvE server when PvP server has all the futures of PvE server. I got only one answer for this either you are complete moron who dont understand anything in mmorpgs or just scared of been killed (pussies).
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agreed. but whatever less cry babies and sore losers to deal with if they all play non-pvp
like kids who want to play dodge-ball but don't like the idea of somone throwing a ball at them cause they might get hit