Why shouldn't they charge? people keep crying to be able to change their looks, and all that, if you can't pick your character correctly from the get go then i guess you'll have to pay the price to change it. alot of people ask for things to make their characters look unique, i see charging this like people buying the TCG, and tons of people will use it because they love to change their characters.
as for the SC2 game, they are making each one into its own game, each game is its own unique game, i don't see anything wrong with this, they wanted to add more content to SC2 so this is the best way they could do it, if they had all the races in one game they would have to cut out a lot of stuff.
I can see an uproar if they were selling actuall weapons and armor and stuff but this is just for looks it sounds like so i don't see a big deal, Or we can panick just like we normally do on this website.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." - Lewis Thomas
In case you didn't know there is a cash shop button in Wrath,blizz says it will just be for cosmetic items but once the cash starts to flow it won't take them long to put items with stats in there, maybe even buy premade max lvl chars. I lost all my respect for blizz since they anounced that sc2 will actually be 3 games, sounds great more contend, but actually it just means 3*50$ not just 50$ for the game. Since the merger with Activision blizz is doing the most stupid things to get more $$, i know games are all about the devs making $$, but that does not mean you have to screw over the people that gave you cash to start with, and i don't mean people that only heard about blizz form wow i mean wc 1+2, sc, diablo1, old school stuff.
independent devs did it for the love of the game, big companies have always been about money.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." - Lewis Thomas
Why shouldn't they charge? people keep crying to be able to change their looks, and all that, if you can't pick your character correctly from the get go then i guess you'll have to pay the price to change it. alot of people ask for things to make their characters look unique, i see charging this like people buying the TCG, and tons of people will use it because they love to change their characters. as for the SC2 game, they are making each one into its own game, each game is its own unique game, i don't see anything wrong with this, they wanted to add more content to SC2 so this is the best way they could do it, if they had all the races in one game they would have to cut out a lot of stuff. I can see an uproar if they were selling actuall weapons and armor and stuff but this is just for looks it sounds like so i don't see a big deal, Or we can panick just like we normally do on this website.
That is the problem is right there and most people just do not see it, because it gets introduced in some harmless looking little thing. People think, well It doesn't affect me so I don't mind and that is how it starts. That is the moment you, I and the rest of the MMO community lose in the long run.
The problem is and always will be, where do you draw that line at? I am positive that your view and the next 100 people asked will all have differing opinions of when is to much. Hairstyles, swords, stat buffs, xp potions, etc.
Furthermore it creates a conflict of interest for the game developer. Right now Blizzards incentive to making content is to make it challenging to players, figuring out strats, earn reputations or any other number of in game PLAYER based activities that keep people playing month to month. Once they start putting a price tag on items it can and most likely will start to influence game designs. It becomes more profitable to nudge players into buying items to complete content, or not make that ultra rare vanity mount drop from a well executed Zul'Aman that people quest after and instead sell them for some extra bucks.
The incentive to design engaging, challenging and rewarding game content changes once cash purchasing is introduced into a game. It doesn't matter how benign it looks at first appearance, because somewhere within the company some money counting executive is going to push the limit. Just look at that money grubbing asshole John Smedley and what he has done to SOE. He is totally drunk on real money transaction gameplay and look what has happened over there.
You ask why shouldn't they charge, but I ask why should they? They can put a price tag on anything right now, but will that somehow make the game better for you and me?
As the saying goes, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Some of you don't realize that cash shops are the future. I am almost certain that MMORPGS in the next decade will be a combination of P2P + cash shop. I *don't* think there will be XP boosters or stat based items in NA/European games however, but rather there will be novelty items, like a faster ride (horse/motorcycle depending on setting), costumes, potions perhaps, that aid you in battle or pvp. Things that you would find generally useful besides for cosmetics purposes.
I am not really a pro-cash shop person but I see the positives of it, both for the gamer and for the companies. For the gamers, we have more choices, we can pay a bit more to look different or enjoy a little bit of advantage over everyone else. And for the devs of course they increase their profits much more. So I think in the future, the cost of monthly subscriptions will go down slightly because of this.
This is bull shit if i want to play a cash shop game i'll just play a f2p one and buy stuff from the shop i'm not going to play a p2p game and get cash shop crap, that is the whole purpose of p2p you pay like everyone else and you are equal.only the time you invest in that game should matter not the size of your pay check.
__________________________________ Remember the good old days when devs made games just for the sake of making a great game? They are forever gone now all they care is about how much they can earn from them, if they can't make millions they won't make that game.
REMEMBER THE OLD DAYS AND REGRET THEY HAVE PASSED.
Well thats the whole thing.They will add one little thing in.Wait and see how it goes.Than add something else in.wait and see how it goes.Then the agreement will change and no body will read it before you know it.They have you by your balls.And or they will add allot of stuff in the next expansion pack,so when you play you wont have any room in your inventory.So lets goto the Item mall and get a expansion for your inventory.Oh what the hell it might cost you 10 dollars for it.But it dose not include your other characters.They will dollar you and five you to death.The game mechanics will change; they will figure a way to get you in the item mall shops.
Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"
Bliztard rolling for greed over and over again in the big dungeon of greedy companies. It used to make nice games now it's making products. I'm just disgusted at their blatant greed, figurines, mouses, mouse rugs, guild tee-shirts, keyboards, cards, mp3 mobile rings, paid PVE-PVP transfer (they said first they never would) to counter competition and make bucks, am I forgetting something? Oh right, cosmetic changes, as if we shouldn't have them included in our sub fare... In World of Whorecraft you must pay for any service (wtf can't you grant us ONE free character transfer if we subscribed for years?), can't you just reduce by ONE euro the sub price for faithful subscribers as you are richer than rich already?
And wtf fanbois and forum wannabee capitalists who don't know shit anyway and think it's even smart to act as Bliztard does, saying that it's ok for a company to make money as much as they can any way they can (the way Microsoft is acting eg with their OEM Windows only usable on a certain PC configuration as if they weren't billionaires already), of course it's good for them if it doesn't turn to a greed vile run as Bliztard is doing, if they deserved that and if money is reinvested in a better game or better service.
In WoW's case they just want more bucks for shareholders, they delayed expansions not to polish them, blatant lie, but to make their other SC and Diablo games and take a lot of more fresh bucks, knowing that WoW addicts would still wait sheepishly. Ok business you might think, but the trouble is you've got this Bliztard dude saying expansions are not coming as frequently as they promised because they are "polishing"* them: it's a blatant lie, but fanbois will still see them as the most decent and caring company around
* polish = Bliztard's neologism for stealing concepts from other devs who had the idea and guts to test and implement them from scratch (considered smart, as greed, and justified by fanbois).
A Mmog to me is a method of social entertainment and expression of the individuals who play.
Why do we play?
To communicate with other people for who they are regardless of where they are from and there culture. To have an equal opportunity to rival others who have the unfair advantage in reality. To mentally escape the environment that one is surrounded with. Perhaps to entertain oneself when there is nothing productive to accomplish. Whatever the reason maybe, it is associated with experiencing a different environment than the one you live in on a day to day basis.
What does this mean?
The online gaming market is open to many different methods of business. Many ways to profit and provide the best experience for their players. Introducing foreign methods such as "cash shops/ item malls" to provide a different alternative to playing. This model of payment however destroys the gaming environment in many ways. Implementing such a model plagues the game with corruption. This is the one element that makes a games environment different from the one experienced on a daily basis.
Regardless of who killed you with total pwnage or who stole ur loot or "needed" for the epic item in party. You know that player had every opportunity you had. You know that player pays the same monthly fee. You know that, you could have made that same decision. You know that was pwnage earned where it was deserved.
The gamers or the people who play these games, come from many different environments. But what makes an mmog unique is having the ability participate in an environment that you can share with others with very little barriers.
Cash shops bring the real world environment to the game world. Destroying the immersion and the escape. When witnessing earned items from another player you are instantly thinking of monetary value and what you need to do to experience what the other has. If people wanted that experience, then I'm sure most people would spend more time with other activities.
Best analogy for this situation is trading cards. This is closesly related to mmogs. You purchase a random set of cards for a price. That individual has equal chance to find a rare card. Sure the guy that buys 12 packs gets more. But that doesn't mean the individual could get a card valued more than all the 12 packs combined.
It sure is a great business model and it will make the development companies money. However developers have a responsibilty to maintain. The type of experience they would like to provide the people. Developers need to have pride in the product or experience they deliver to the people, to the gamers.
I only hope that developers are upfront and explain the reason for accepting this method of play. We gamers deserve the explanation and reasoning behind such decision.
Blizzard is milking each and every player because those guys will pay. I mean, even if people hate it, I'm sure they will still buy the tri-CD starcraft 2. They're just making money off the masses.
Imo what they are initially offering is of little consequence in the game but it's about the motivation of the other gamers who decide not to use it.
One of the things WoW has always had going for it is, if you see someone with a unique or rare mount/item etc then you know they worked for it and if you want the same and you are willing to put in the effort then you can get it too. Now? Maybe they just bought it, so whats the point.
Things that are not earned have no value and can only add to cheapen the experience.
----- The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
Imo what they are initially offering is of little consequence in the game but it's about the motivation of the other gamers who decide not to use it. One of the things WoW has always had going for it is, if you see someone with a unique or rare mount/item etc then you know they worked for it and if you want the same and you are willing to put in the effort then you can get it too. Now? Maybe they just bought it, so whats the point. Things that are not earned have no value and can only add to cheapen the experience.
Well put.
A cash shop can very easily go bad, Wow will lose a lot of hardcore player if cool stuff can be bought for real world money. If they start to sell good gear and mounts, then they are destroying the game.
Blizzard is milking each and every player because those guys will pay. I mean, even if people hate it, I'm sure they will still buy the tri-CD starcraft 2. They're just making money off the masses.
Yes... buy... "Minimizes a few suspicious looking websites"
But seriously 3 independent dvd releases of the same game?
So i don't know if this has already been put up but since so many people here haven't seems to get one quite valid reason, as to other than profit, blizzard was doing this (1 & page 2), i'll just skip in.
First of all, WoW is a social hub, what do we know about social hubs?
They are huge
attract many people
It's about standing out
Just looking (good) is feeling good
There are both boys/men and girls/women, let me underline the last part, a lot of women and girls! Compared to other mmos.
There are more to add but to make my point clear i only need these, so here we go. WoW actually has a lot of women playing it, since it's a social hub, it's not only about raiding but those who hate wow so much never got the clue to figure it out.
Blizzard don't to put anything but cosmetic stuff in that "cash shop", why? Because that shop is all about "standing out", like getting a tux, which looks like the one from Casino Royal, or a special dress for the females from sex and the city, a special haircut like no other, again from either a sitcom or movie. This is all about bragging through "looking good" and standing out.
They won't ever need to put in stat items in that shop, there are people out there who don't want to go through a lot of quests or raiding to look like some kind of power ranger, so with this option, when they wander off in the cities doing something else than questing/instances/raids, they have there special cosmetic stuff to impress, and impress it will, even if people try to deny it.
A new way of making extra money? Yeah, a good one too, as with the real money applied it's not about "how much you play" but only those whose actually interested will buy it, thus they won't have to think, "yet another cool feature for those who got the time for it....".
Will it sell? Who knows, if it's very appealing and very popular cosmetic stuff, it sure will.
If anyone else pointed this one out, then i'm sorry and just take this post as support. But this site being the number 1 wow hating site has been proven many times, and in this thread it was proven once again.
So i don't know if this has already been put up but since so many people here haven't seems to get one quite valid reason, as to other than profit, blizzard was doing this (1 & page 2), i'll just skip in.
First of all, WoW is a social hub, what do we know about social hubs? They are huge attract many people It's about standing out Just looking (good) is feeling good There are both boys/men and girls/women, let me underline the last part, a lot of women and girls! Compared to other mmos.
There are more to add but to make my point clear i only need these, so here we go. WoW actually has a lot of women playing it, since it's a social hub, it's not only about raiding but those who hate wow so much never got the clue to figure it out. Blizzard don't to put anything but cosmetic stuff in that "cash shop", why? Because that shop is all about "standing out", like getting a tux, which looks like the one from Casino Royal, or a special dress for the females from sex and the city, a special haircut like no other, again from either a sitcom or movie. This is all about bragging through "looking good" and standing out.
They won't ever need to put in stat items in that shop, there are people out there who don't want to go through a lot of quests or raiding to look like some kind of power ranger, so with this option, when they wander off in the cities doing something else than questing/instances/raids, they have there special cosmetic stuff to impress, and impress it will, even if people try to deny it.
A new way of making extra money? Yeah, a good one too, as with the real money applied it's not about "how much you play" but only those whose actually interested will buy it, thus they won't have to think, "yet another cool feature for those who got the time for it....".
Will it sell? Who knows, if it's very appealing and very popular cosmetic stuff, it sure will.
If anyone else pointed this one out, then i'm sorry and just take this post as support. But this site being the number 1 wow hating site has been proven many times, and in this thread it was proven once again.
Regards.
The day that WoW becomes sitcom cosplay zone is the day i won't be playing anymore.
Nobody has linked anything official yet. Why get all spun up over something that might never happen? If it did? I would probably quit. Its takes away from the fun otherwise.
Nobody has linked anything official yet. Why get all spun up over something that might never happen? If it did? I would probably quit. Its takes away from the fun otherwise. ~H
Becasuse it's a shame to miss an oportunity to point at eminent downfall of WoW.
Nobody has linked anything official yet. Why get all spun up over something that might never happen? If it did? I would probably quit. Its takes away from the fun otherwise. ~H
Oh its offical..WoW paid character customization button discovered, Brack confirms.
So whats next? Better looking weapons,bigger inventory,reset stat skills,better and faster mounts etc etc?Do some of you really think its just for customization and thats it??
Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"
heh these trolls remind me of Obama supporters who know nothing about the candidate and just blindlessly support whatever Obama/OP says. Ignorance must truly be bliss
Its amazing what 1 ignorant troll and a lot of misinformed people can do. Blizzard has not said what this "Paid Character Customizarion" is, what it will do or when it will be implemented or how. This whole "WoW is getting a cash shop" crap is nothing more than stupid trolling.
I am simply against the principle of the idea. The details do not matter much, because the precident it will set is far more important.
I don't even like the idea that Blizzard is even thinking about it to be honest.
First off brining politics into this complaint thread is idiotic. Second off micropayments in a Pay to Play game especially of this scope is unacceptable. For those of you who say we should not be upset that a company is trying to make money, you are missing the point. The goal of a compnay is to make money while pleasing its customers. I cant imagine that micropayments of any kind would appeal to the majority of their fan base, and it may actually repulse enough of them away that it will cost them money. I know that many people with jobs can throw 60 dollars out the window to get an epic epic epic flyer, and it will be worth it to them because they 60 dollars to them is worth less than the hours it will take to farm for something of equal value in gold. The problem is most players, myself included, think that this is like slipping a 50 dollar bill to the Monoply banker so he will give you free access to the orange 500 bills. So is it smart? They've probably done the math, and probably assume those who dont want it wont care and those who do will be thrilled. I think it is a move of arrogance, especially with Aion and Darkfall sneaking up around the corner. I have not played WoW in about a year, but acknowledge it can be very fun. If i had just farmed for 50 hours to get my epic flyer, then saw somone right next to me turn level 70 pull out their credit card and fly off at the same time, i would probably be too pissed to continue playing that week. Life isnt fair, but MMORPGs are, or at least should be. If a pay to play game wants me to pay more to stay competative, or even just to look cool as they currently are claiming, ill just find a new game. They may be counting on their reliable customers, but they are reliable because they have been treated better than most MMORPG customers have. If you start putting in micropayments, and offering benefits to players who offer more money (pve>pvp transfers) they will soon realise that those other crappy customer services are pristine in comparison.
First off brining politics into this complaint thread is idiotic. Second off micropayments in a Pay to Play game especially of this scope is unacceptable. For those of you who say we should not be upset that a company is trying to make money, you are missing the point. The goal of a compnay is to make money while pleasing its customers. I cant imagine that micropayments of any kind would appeal to the majority of their fan base, and it may actually repulse enough of them away that it will cost them money. I know that many people with jobs can throw 60 dollars out the window to get an epic epic epic flyer, and it will be worth it to them because they 60 dollars to them is worth less than the hours it will take to farm for something of equal value in gold. The problem is most players, myself included, think that this is like slipping a 50 dollar bill to the Monoply banker so he will give you free access to the orange 500 bills. So is it smart? They've probably done the math, and probably assume those who dont want it wont care and those who do will be thrilled. I think it is a move of arrogance, especially with Aion and Darkfall sneaking up around the corner. I have not played WoW in about a year, but acknowledge it can be very fun. If i had just farmed for 50 hours to get my epic flyer, then saw somone right next to me turn level 70 pull out their credit card and fly off at the same time, i would probably be too pissed to continue playing that week. Life isnt fair, but MMORPGs are, or at least should be. If a pay to play game wants me to pay more to stay competative, or even just to look cool as they currently are claiming, ill just find a new game. They may be counting on their reliable customers, but they are reliable because they have been treated better than most MMORPG customers have. If you start putting in micropayments, and offering benefits to players who offer more money (pve>pvp transfers) they will soon realise that those other crappy customer services are pristine in comparison.
That's the whole point, isn't it, and even if you could, would it really matter now that you are oficially comited to an opinion.
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Why shouldn't they charge? people keep crying to be able to change their looks, and all that, if you can't pick your character correctly from the get go then i guess you'll have to pay the price to change it. alot of people ask for things to make their characters look unique, i see charging this like people buying the TCG, and tons of people will use it because they love to change their characters.
as for the SC2 game, they are making each one into its own game, each game is its own unique game, i don't see anything wrong with this, they wanted to add more content to SC2 so this is the best way they could do it, if they had all the races in one game they would have to cut out a lot of stuff.
I can see an uproar if they were selling actuall weapons and armor and stuff but this is just for looks it sounds like so i don't see a big deal, Or we can panick just like we normally do on this website.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
independent devs did it for the love of the game, big companies have always been about money.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
That is the problem is right there and most people just do not see it, because it gets introduced in some harmless looking little thing. People think, well It doesn't affect me so I don't mind and that is how it starts. That is the moment you, I and the rest of the MMO community lose in the long run.
The problem is and always will be, where do you draw that line at? I am positive that your view and the next 100 people asked will all have differing opinions of when is to much. Hairstyles, swords, stat buffs, xp potions, etc.
Furthermore it creates a conflict of interest for the game developer. Right now Blizzards incentive to making content is to make it challenging to players, figuring out strats, earn reputations or any other number of in game PLAYER based activities that keep people playing month to month. Once they start putting a price tag on items it can and most likely will start to influence game designs. It becomes more profitable to nudge players into buying items to complete content, or not make that ultra rare vanity mount drop from a well executed Zul'Aman that people quest after and instead sell them for some extra bucks.
The incentive to design engaging, challenging and rewarding game content changes once cash purchasing is introduced into a game. It doesn't matter how benign it looks at first appearance, because somewhere within the company some money counting executive is going to push the limit. Just look at that money grubbing asshole John Smedley and what he has done to SOE. He is totally drunk on real money transaction gameplay and look what has happened over there.
You ask why shouldn't they charge, but I ask why should they? They can put a price tag on anything right now, but will that somehow make the game better for you and me?
As the saying goes, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Some of you don't realize that cash shops are the future. I am almost certain that MMORPGS in the next decade will be a combination of P2P + cash shop. I *don't* think there will be XP boosters or stat based items in NA/European games however, but rather there will be novelty items, like a faster ride (horse/motorcycle depending on setting), costumes, potions perhaps, that aid you in battle or pvp. Things that you would find generally useful besides for cosmetics purposes.
I am not really a pro-cash shop person but I see the positives of it, both for the gamer and for the companies. For the gamers, we have more choices, we can pay a bit more to look different or enjoy a little bit of advantage over everyone else. And for the devs of course they increase their profits much more. So I think in the future, the cost of monthly subscriptions will go down slightly because of this.
This is bull shit if i want to play a cash shop game i'll just play a f2p one and buy stuff from the shop i'm not going to play a p2p game and get cash shop crap, that is the whole purpose of p2p you pay like everyone else and you are equal.only the time you invest in that game should matter not the size of your pay check.
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Remember the good old days when devs made games just for the sake of making a great game?
They are forever gone now all they care is about how much they can earn from them, if they can't make millions they won't make that game.
REMEMBER THE OLD DAYS AND REGRET THEY HAVE PASSED.
Well thats the whole thing.They will add one little thing in.Wait and see how it goes.Than add something else in.wait and see how it goes.Then the agreement will change and no body will read it before you know it.They have you by your balls.And or they will add allot of stuff in the next expansion pack,so when you play you wont have any room in your inventory.So lets goto the Item mall and get a expansion for your inventory.Oh what the hell it might cost you 10 dollars for it.But it dose not include your other characters.They will dollar you and five you to death.The game mechanics will change; they will figure a way to get you in the item mall shops.
Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"
Bliztard rolling for greed over and over again in the big dungeon of greedy companies. It used to make nice games now it's making products. I'm just disgusted at their blatant greed, figurines, mouses, mouse rugs, guild tee-shirts, keyboards, cards, mp3 mobile rings, paid PVE-PVP transfer (they said first they never would) to counter competition and make bucks, am I forgetting something? Oh right, cosmetic changes, as if we shouldn't have them included in our sub fare... In World of Whorecraft you must pay for any service (wtf can't you grant us ONE free character transfer if we subscribed for years?), can't you just reduce by ONE euro the sub price for faithful subscribers as you are richer than rich already?
And wtf fanbois and forum wannabee capitalists who don't know shit anyway and think it's even smart to act as Bliztard does, saying that it's ok for a company to make money as much as they can any way they can (the way Microsoft is acting eg with their OEM Windows only usable on a certain PC configuration as if they weren't billionaires already), of course it's good for them if it doesn't turn to a greed vile run as Bliztard is doing, if they deserved that and if money is reinvested in a better game or better service.
In WoW's case they just want more bucks for shareholders, they delayed expansions not to polish them, blatant lie, but to make their other SC and Diablo games and take a lot of more fresh bucks, knowing that WoW addicts would still wait sheepishly. Ok business you might think, but the trouble is you've got this Bliztard dude saying expansions are not coming as frequently as they promised because they are "polishing"* them: it's a blatant lie, but fanbois will still see them as the most decent and caring company around
* polish = Bliztard's neologism for stealing concepts from other devs who had the idea and guts to test and implement them from scratch (considered smart, as greed, and justified by fanbois).
A Mmog to me is a method of social entertainment and expression of the individuals who play.
Why do we play?
To communicate with other people for who they are regardless of where they are from and there culture. To have an equal opportunity to rival others who have the unfair advantage in reality. To mentally escape the environment that one is surrounded with. Perhaps to entertain oneself when there is nothing productive to accomplish. Whatever the reason maybe, it is associated with experiencing a different environment than the one you live in on a day to day basis.
What does this mean?
The online gaming market is open to many different methods of business. Many ways to profit and provide the best experience for their players. Introducing foreign methods such as "cash shops/ item malls" to provide a different alternative to playing. This model of payment however destroys the gaming environment in many ways. Implementing such a model plagues the game with corruption. This is the one element that makes a games environment different from the one experienced on a daily basis.
Regardless of who killed you with total pwnage or who stole ur loot or "needed" for the epic item in party. You know that player had every opportunity you had. You know that player pays the same monthly fee. You know that, you could have made that same decision. You know that was pwnage earned where it was deserved.
The gamers or the people who play these games, come from many different environments. But what makes an mmog unique is having the ability participate in an environment that you can share with others with very little barriers.
Cash shops bring the real world environment to the game world. Destroying the immersion and the escape. When witnessing earned items from another player you are instantly thinking of monetary value and what you need to do to experience what the other has. If people wanted that experience, then I'm sure most people would spend more time with other activities.
Best analogy for this situation is trading cards. This is closesly related to mmogs. You purchase a random set of cards for a price. That individual has equal chance to find a rare card. Sure the guy that buys 12 packs gets more. But that doesn't mean the individual could get a card valued more than all the 12 packs combined.
It sure is a great business model and it will make the development companies money. However developers have a responsibilty to maintain. The type of experience they would like to provide the people. Developers need to have pride in the product or experience they deliver to the people, to the gamers.
I only hope that developers are upfront and explain the reason for accepting this method of play. We gamers deserve the explanation and reasoning behind such decision.
Working on it
Blizzard is milking each and every player because those guys will pay. I mean, even if people hate it, I'm sure they will still buy the tri-CD starcraft 2. They're just making money off the masses.
Imo what they are initially offering is of little consequence in the game but it's about the motivation of the other gamers who decide not to use it.
One of the things WoW has always had going for it is, if you see someone with a unique or rare mount/item etc then you know they worked for it and if you want the same and you are willing to put in the effort then you can get it too. Now? Maybe they just bought it, so whats the point.
Things that are not earned have no value and can only add to cheapen the experience.
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The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
Just like most have said.. Nothing will kill wow but wow, atleast we know they are consistantly moving in the right direction for that.
Well put.
A cash shop can very easily go bad, Wow will lose a lot of hardcore player if cool stuff can be bought for real world money. If they start to sell good gear and mounts, then they are destroying the game.
Yes... buy... "Minimizes a few suspicious looking websites"
But seriously 3 independent dvd releases of the same game?
So i don't know if this has already been put up but since so many people here haven't seems to get one quite valid reason, as to other than profit, blizzard was doing this (1 & page 2), i'll just skip in.
First of all, WoW is a social hub, what do we know about social hubs?
They are huge
attract many people
It's about standing out
Just looking (good) is feeling good
There are both boys/men and girls/women, let me underline the last part, a lot of women and girls! Compared to other mmos.
There are more to add but to make my point clear i only need these, so here we go. WoW actually has a lot of women playing it, since it's a social hub, it's not only about raiding but those who hate wow so much never got the clue to figure it out.
Blizzard don't to put anything but cosmetic stuff in that "cash shop", why? Because that shop is all about "standing out", like getting a tux, which looks like the one from Casino Royal, or a special dress for the females from sex and the city, a special haircut like no other, again from either a sitcom or movie. This is all about bragging through "looking good" and standing out.
They won't ever need to put in stat items in that shop, there are people out there who don't want to go through a lot of quests or raiding to look like some kind of power ranger, so with this option, when they wander off in the cities doing something else than questing/instances/raids, they have there special cosmetic stuff to impress, and impress it will, even if people try to deny it.
A new way of making extra money? Yeah, a good one too, as with the real money applied it's not about "how much you play" but only those whose actually interested will buy it, thus they won't have to think, "yet another cool feature for those who got the time for it....".
Will it sell? Who knows, if it's very appealing and very popular cosmetic stuff, it sure will.
If anyone else pointed this one out, then i'm sorry and just take this post as support. But this site being the number 1 wow hating site has been proven many times, and in this thread it was proven once again.
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The day that WoW becomes sitcom cosplay zone is the day i won't be playing anymore.
Nobody has linked anything official yet. Why get all spun up over something that might never happen? If it did? I would probably quit. Its takes away from the fun otherwise.
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Becasuse it's a shame to miss an oportunity to point at eminent downfall of WoW.
Oh its offical..WoW paid character customization button discovered, Brack confirms.
Here the link. http://www.massively.com/2008/10/13/wow-paid-character-customization-button-discovered-brack-confir/
So whats next? Better looking weapons,bigger inventory,reset stat skills,better and faster mounts etc etc?Do some of you really think its just for customization and thats it??
Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"
Its amazing what 1 ignorant troll and a lot of misinformed people can do.
Blizzard has not said what this "Paid Character Customizarion" is, what it will do or when it will be implemented or how.
This whole "WoW is getting a cash shop" crap is nothing more than stupid trolling.
ITT: people who look for any chance to rip on blizzard.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
heh these trolls remind me of Obama supporters who know nothing about the candidate and just blindlessly support whatever Obama/OP says. Ignorance must truly be bliss
I am simply against the principle of the idea. The details do not matter much, because the precident it will set is far more important.
I don't even like the idea that Blizzard is even thinking about it to be honest.
First off brining politics into this complaint thread is idiotic. Second off micropayments in a Pay to Play game especially of this scope is unacceptable. For those of you who say we should not be upset that a company is trying to make money, you are missing the point. The goal of a compnay is to make money while pleasing its customers. I cant imagine that micropayments of any kind would appeal to the majority of their fan base, and it may actually repulse enough of them away that it will cost them money. I know that many people with jobs can throw 60 dollars out the window to get an epic epic epic flyer, and it will be worth it to them because they 60 dollars to them is worth less than the hours it will take to farm for something of equal value in gold. The problem is most players, myself included, think that this is like slipping a 50 dollar bill to the Monoply banker so he will give you free access to the orange 500 bills. So is it smart? They've probably done the math, and probably assume those who dont want it wont care and those who do will be thrilled. I think it is a move of arrogance, especially with Aion and Darkfall sneaking up around the corner. I have not played WoW in about a year, but acknowledge it can be very fun. If i had just farmed for 50 hours to get my epic flyer, then saw somone right next to me turn level 70 pull out their credit card and fly off at the same time, i would probably be too pissed to continue playing that week. Life isnt fair, but MMORPGs are, or at least should be. If a pay to play game wants me to pay more to stay competative, or even just to look cool as they currently are claiming, ill just find a new game. They may be counting on their reliable customers, but they are reliable because they have been treated better than most MMORPG customers have. If you start putting in micropayments, and offering benefits to players who offer more money (pve>pvp transfers) they will soon realise that those other crappy customer services are pristine in comparison.
That's the whole point, isn't it, and even if you could, would it really matter now that you are oficially comited to an opinion.
Its just cosmetic items, the OP overreacted... Gotta love the people who make something out of nothing...
Also trying to start a conspiracy theory by the look of it as well...
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