i couldnt care either way, since i am neither for nor against darkfall, but the current "preview" of what the community is going to be like is what is going to keep me away.
What preview?
Again the people who make up these forums + the official DF forums will be <5% of the community you will see in game. If that.
Majority of MMOers dont POST consistently on the game forums.
The VAST majority of MMOers dont POST on the game forums before the game is released.
So thinking a community for a game is based off the diehards on the official forums...is pretty silly if you ask me.
This game will bring some of the nastiest people in the MMO community to it.
Full loot pvp? Gankers paradise, Go take a look at shadowbane, it has some of the most infamous people the MMORPG genre has to offer.
Youll have griefers, gankers, chest beating smack talkers etc. This wont be a pretty little teddy bear picnic, it will be filled with hate from day one, Im already looking forward to some of the hate tells Im probably going to get for repeatedly ganking people, taking screen shots, and having a jolly old laugh at the expense of people who dont know what theyre getting into. Thats why I still play Shadowbane, nothing is more fun than making people QQ and having it be built into the way the game plays.
Trust me when I say that a lot of the nastiest MMO players in existence will be leaving Shadowbane to play Darkfall, your forums will be filled with tears, and people will eat it up.
In fact, Ill even throw a few phrases out there that you will likely hear, after you kill someone
"Man, attacking me while I was fighting mobs is lame, youre an a**hole."
"3v1? wheres your honor, scared to fight me fair?"
"F**k you noobie, only noobies kill lowbies"
I cant wait, the tears will flow.
except shadowbane had levels huge diffrence
its goign ot be funny when that new players kicks and older players arse
The point is makingg is the darkfall and VG are both backed by HUGE promises of what a great game they are. And, up until release, everyone thought VG would be this huge awesome game with all these features and great story.. but it turned out.. .. not so awesome. The 'Vision" was missing.
Vanguard was buggy as hell in beta and bugs werent beign fixed veryf ast as soon as soe took it over i knew it was going to fail.
i couldnt care either way, since i am neither for nor against darkfall, but the current "preview" of what the community is going to be like is what is going to keep me away.
What preview?
Again the people who make up these forums + the official DF forums will be <5% of the community you will see in game. If that.
Majority of MMOers dont POST consistently on the game forums.
The VAST majority of MMOers dont POST on the game forums before the game is released.
So thinking a community for a game is based off the diehards on the official forums...is pretty silly if you ask me.
This game will bring some of the nastiest people in the MMO community to it.
Full loot pvp? Gankers paradise, Go take a look at shadowbane, it has some of the most infamous people the MMORPG genre has to offer.
Youll have griefers, gankers, chest beating smack talkers etc. This wont be a pretty little teddy bear picnic, it will be filled with hate from day one, Im already looking forward to some of the hate tells Im probably going to get for repeatedly ganking people, taking screen shots, and having a jolly old laugh at the expense of people who dont know what theyre getting into. Thats why I still play Shadowbane, nothing is more fun than making people QQ and having it be built into the way the game plays.
Trust me when I say that a lot of the nastiest MMO players in existence will be leaving Shadowbane to play Darkfall, your forums will be filled with tears, and people will eat it up.
In fact, Ill even throw a few phrases out there that you will likely hear, after you kill someone
"Man, attacking me while I was fighting mobs is lame, youre an a**hole."
"3v1? wheres your honor, scared to fight me fair?"
"F**k you noobie, only noobies kill lowbies"
I cant wait, the tears will flow.
except shadowbane had levels huge diffrence
Explain that to me, explain to me how not having levels is going to save you from being repeatedly ganked by power gamers who will only play the game to revel in the games design when it comes to taking YOUR gear, and laughing in your face?
Doesnt matter that its not level based, it wont save you from the exact same fate, or dealing with the exact same bloodthirsty people.
You are kidding yourself if you think you will get anywhere in this game without a large guild boasting large numbers.
If you run your mouth to a larger guild in shadowbane, they take your city, all your gold, and time invested, goes down the drain, and Darkfall wont be any different.
I think a lot of the fans dont even know what theyre going to be getting into, It will be NASTY.
Is it just me or does this whole darkfall thing feel like a rerun of the fiasco that was vanguard? I'm not committing myself to this or any other game until I've played it myself no matter how many run around saying this is going to be awesome but I'm sure the diehard darkfallers are all very happy in there +3 blinkers of blind faith.
if its sucks i just shrug my shoulders and dont play mmos any more : /. but i havent even been biten by the hype bug yet. even tho i do defend darkfall but i just do that because i can and its pisses the trolls off: )
i couldnt care either way, since i am neither for nor against darkfall, but the current "preview" of what the community is going to be like is what is going to keep me away.
What preview?
Again the people who make up these forums + the official DF forums will be <5% of the community you will see in game. If that.
Majority of MMOers dont POST consistently on the game forums.
The VAST majority of MMOers dont POST on the game forums before the game is released.
So thinking a community for a game is based off the diehards on the official forums...is pretty silly if you ask me.
This game will bring some of the nastiest people in the MMO community to it.
Full loot pvp? Gankers paradise, Go take a look at shadowbane, it has some of the most infamous people the MMORPG genre has to offer.
Youll have griefers, gankers, chest beating smack talkers etc. This wont be a pretty little teddy bear picnic, it will be filled with hate from day one, Im already looking forward to some of the hate tells Im probably going to get for repeatedly ganking people, taking screen shots, and having a jolly old laugh at the expense of people who dont know what theyre getting into. Thats why I still play Shadowbane, nothing is more fun than making people QQ and having it be built into the way the game plays.
Trust me when I say that a lot of the nastiest MMO players in existence will be leaving Shadowbane to play Darkfall, your forums will be filled with tears, and people will eat it up.
In fact, Ill even throw a few phrases out there that you will likely hear, after you kill someone
"Man, attacking me while I was fighting mobs is lame, youre an a**hole."
"3v1? wheres your honor, scared to fight me fair?"
"F**k you noobie, only noobies kill lowbies"
I cant wait, the tears will flow.
except shadowbane had levels huge diffrence
Explain that to me, explain to me how not having levels is going to save you from being repeatedly ganked by power gamers who will only play the game to revel in the games design when it comes to taking YOUR gear, and laughing in your face?
Doesnt matter that its not level based, it wont save you from the exact same fate, or dealing with the exact same bloodthirsty people.
You are kidding yourself if you think you will get anywhere in this game without a large guild boasting large numbers.
If you run your mouth to a larger guild in shadowbane, they take your city, all your gold, and time invested, goes down the drain, and Darkfall wont be any different.
I think a lot of the fans dont even know what theyre going to be getting into, It will be NASTY.
LOL ok you think that i dont think shadowbane had npc gaurds you can hire to help protect the city.
and if you cant afford enough of them. maybe you should allie with a bigger clan or not own a town yet >.>
btw i played uo on aprivate server pre trammel guess what i got killed quit a bit it didnt bother me and that has a worse ratio than darkfall i think.
if your so worrid why dont you just stop coming her and QQ because the fans arent going to listen anyways
i couldnt care either way, since i am neither for nor against darkfall, but the current "preview" of what the community is going to be like is what is going to keep me away.
What preview?
Again the people who make up these forums + the official DF forums will be <5% of the community you will see in game. If that.
Majority of MMOers dont POST consistently on the game forums.
The VAST majority of MMOers dont POST on the game forums before the game is released.
So thinking a community for a game is based off the diehards on the official forums...is pretty silly if you ask me.
This game will bring some of the nastiest people in the MMO community to it.
Full loot pvp? Gankers paradise, Go take a look at shadowbane, it has some of the most infamous people the MMORPG genre has to offer.
Youll have griefers, gankers, chest beating smack talkers etc. This wont be a pretty little teddy bear picnic, it will be filled with hate from day one, Im already looking forward to some of the hate tells Im probably going to get for repeatedly ganking people, taking screen shots, and having a jolly old laugh at the expense of people who dont know what theyre getting into. Thats why I still play Shadowbane, nothing is more fun than making people QQ and having it be built into the way the game plays.
Trust me when I say that a lot of the nastiest MMO players in existence will be leaving Shadowbane to play Darkfall, your forums will be filled with tears, and people will eat it up.
In fact, Ill even throw a few phrases out there that you will likely hear, after you kill someone
"Man, attacking me while I was fighting mobs is lame, youre an a**hole."
"3v1? wheres your honor, scared to fight me fair?"
"F**k you noobie, only noobies kill lowbies"
I cant wait, the tears will flow.
except shadowbane had levels huge diffrence
Explain that to me, explain to me how not having levels is going to save you from being repeatedly ganked by power gamers who will only play the game to revel in the games design when it comes to taking YOUR gear, and laughing in your face?
Doesnt matter that its not level based, it wont save you from the exact same fate, or dealing with the exact same bloodthirsty people.
You are kidding yourself if you think you will get anywhere in this game without a large guild boasting large numbers.
If you run your mouth to a larger guild in shadowbane, they take your city, all your gold, and time invested, goes down the drain, and Darkfall wont be any different.
I think a lot of the fans dont even know what theyre going to be getting into, It will be NASTY.
LOL ok you think that i dont think shadowbane had npc gaurds you can hire to help protect the city.
and if you cant afford enough of them. maybe you should allie with a bigger clan or not own a town yet >.>
btw i played uo on aprivate server pre trammel guess what i got killed quit a bit it didnt bother me and that has a worse ratio than darkfall i think.
if your so worrid why dont you just stop coming her and QQ because the fans arent going to listen anyways
the npc guards are easy to kill, and even easier because they dont see GM stealth.
They cant protect you, not from theft or death.
Trust me son, Im not QQing, Ive played Shadowbane for years, and am in one of the largest most well established guilds in existence.
Mad Mercs, go look em up on the Shadowbane forums, better yet, go take a look at the number of cities we control on our server.
My point is, Id be willing to bet that 90% of the fans have no idea what kind of game this is going to be when it comes to the community.
Hardcore doesnt even come close to defining the type of people that will make this game a headache for you day in and day out.
To be honest Arken I think that you have just scupperd your own trolling game by your description of Darkfall pvp as being nasty. That is what the game is about, using the description "nasty" to describe it shows more about your attitude to gaming than it does about Darkfall itself.
It is now obvious to me that you are the kind of person who doesn't want no "nasty PKers" (read other people playing the game) ruining his day as he romps through happy pixie & fairy land on his way to a big adventure at the magic castle, and maybe even stealing his magic beans whilst they are at it! The fiends!!.
i couldnt care either way, since i am neither for nor against darkfall, but the current "preview" of what the community is going to be like is what is going to keep me away.
What preview?
Again the people who make up these forums + the official DF forums will be <5% of the community you will see in game. If that.
Majority of MMOers dont POST consistently on the game forums.
The VAST majority of MMOers dont POST on the game forums before the game is released.
So thinking a community for a game is based off the diehards on the official forums...is pretty silly if you ask me.
This game will bring some of the nastiest people in the MMO community to it.
Full loot pvp? Gankers paradise, Go take a look at shadowbane, it has some of the most infamous people the MMORPG genre has to offer.
Youll have griefers, gankers, chest beating smack talkers etc. This wont be a pretty little teddy bear picnic, it will be filled with hate from day one, Im already looking forward to some of the hate tells Im probably going to get for repeatedly ganking people, taking screen shots, and having a jolly old laugh at the expense of people who dont know what theyre getting into. Thats why I still play Shadowbane, nothing is more fun than making people QQ and having it be built into the way the game plays.
Trust me when I say that a lot of the nastiest MMO players in existence will be leaving Shadowbane to play Darkfall, your forums will be filled with tears, and people will eat it up.
In fact, Ill even throw a few phrases out there that you will likely hear, after you kill someone
"Man, attacking me while I was fighting mobs is lame, youre an a**hole."
"3v1? wheres your honor, scared to fight me fair?"
"F**k you noobie, only noobies kill lowbies"
I cant wait, the tears will flow.
except shadowbane had levels huge diffrence
Explain that to me, explain to me how not having levels is going to save you from being repeatedly ganked by power gamers who will only play the game to revel in the games design when it comes to taking YOUR gear, and laughing in your face?
Doesnt matter that its not level based, it wont save you from the exact same fate, or dealing with the exact same bloodthirsty people.
You are kidding yourself if you think you will get anywhere in this game without a large guild boasting large numbers.
If you run your mouth to a larger guild in shadowbane, they take your city, all your gold, and time invested, goes down the drain, and Darkfall wont be any different.
I think a lot of the fans dont even know what theyre going to be getting into, It will be NASTY.
LOL ok you think that i dont think shadowbane had npc gaurds you can hire to help protect the city.
and if you cant afford enough of them. maybe you should allie with a bigger clan or not own a town yet >.>
btw i played uo on aprivate server pre trammel guess what i got killed quit a bit it didnt bother me and that has a worse ratio than darkfall i think.
if your so worrid why dont you just stop coming her and QQ because the fans arent going to listen anyways
the npc guards are easy to kill, and even easier because they dont see GM stealth.
They cant protect you, not from theft or death.
Trust me son, Im not QQing, Ive played Shadowbane for years, and am in one of the largest most well established guilds in existence.
Mad Mercs, go look em up on the Shadowbane forums, better yet, go take a look at the number of cities we control on our server.
My point is, Id be willing to bet that 90% of the fans have no idea what kind of game this is going to be when it comes to the community.
Hardcore doesnt even come close to defining the type of people that will make this game a headache for you day in and day out.
there is no stealth guess what darkfall npcs are hard ot killdepending how much money you spend on them
To be honest Arken I think that you have just scupperd your own trolling game by your description of Darkfall pvp as being nasty. That is what the game is about, using the description "nasty" to describe it shows more about your attitude to gaming than it does about Darkfall itself. It is now obvious to me that you are the kind of person who doesn't want no "nasty PKers" (read other people playing the game) ruining his day as he romps through happy pixie & fairy land on his way to a big adventure at the magic castle, and maybe even stealing his magic beans whilst they are at it! The fiends!!.
Actually sir, read my above post, I love ffa pvp with no rules, and thats why I still play Shadowbane. I cant get enough of actual risk when you leave your guilds city. Google Manshoon, hes the guild leader of my longtime guild Zhentil Keep. He along with Zhentil Keep are one of the most infamous guilds out there, weve stirred up trouble in Shadowbane, AoC, and currently WAR.
I mainly only play stealth gank builds in shadowbane, and am constantly looking for people silly enough to be out there alone trying to farm, theyre farming, but its going to be MY money shortly, thats how I farm.
Go read the Shadowbane forums, get a taste of the attitude there, and how many people QQ about how "mean" my guild is.
Ill tell ya what, when Darkfall goes live, Ill post my characters name on here, and you come find me in game, and see just how well you do against me and my guild, lets see if you can do the same.
To be honest Arken I think that you have just scupperd your own trolling game by your description of Darkfall pvp as being nasty. That is what the game is about, using the description "nasty" to describe it shows more about your attitude to gaming than it does about Darkfall itself. It is now obvious to me that you are the kind of person who doesn't want no "nasty PKers" (read other people playing the game) ruining his day as he romps through happy pixie & fairy land on his way to a big adventure at the magic castle, and maybe even stealing his magic beans whilst they are at it! The fiends!!.
Actually sir, read my above post, I love ffa pvp with no rules, and thats why I still play Shadowbane. I cant get enough of actual risk when you leave your guilds city. Google Manshoon, hes the guild leader of my longtime guild Zhentil Keep. He along with Zhentil Keep are one of the most infamous guilds out there, weve stirred up trouble in Shadowbane, AoC, and currently WAR.
I mainly only play stealth gank builds in shadowbane, and am constantly looking for people silly enough to be out there alone trying to farm, theyre farming, but its going to be MY money shortly, thats how I farm.
Go read the Shadowbane forums, get a taste of the attitude there, and how many people QQ about how "mean" my guild is.
Ill tell ya what, when Darkfall goes live, Ill post my characters name on here, and you come find me in game, and see just how well you do against me and my guild, lets see if you can do the same.
Originally posted by Arcken Actually sir, read my above post, I love ffa pvp with no rules, and thats why I still play Shadowbane. I cant get enough of actual risk when you leave your guilds city. Google Manshoon, hes the guild leader of my longtime guild Zhentil Keep. He along with Zhentil Keep are one of the most infamous guilds out there, weve stirred up trouble in Shadowbane, AoC, and currently WAR. I mainly only play stealth gank builds in shadowbane, and am constantly looking for people silly enough to be out there alone trying to farm, theyre farming, but its going to be MY money shortly, thats how I farm. Go read the Shadowbane forums, get a taste of the attitude there, and how many people QQ about how "mean" my guild is. Ill tell ya what, when Darkfall goes live, Ill post my characters name on here, and you come find me in game, and see just how well you do against me and my guild, lets see if you can do the same.
I have read your post above and my opinion is unchanged and likely to remain impervious to any attempts to alter it.
However, I will gladly except your offer to post your ingame name on this forum.
Im on the fence about this game. Not on either side. I just enjoy coming to the Darkfall forums to see the sniping being done on both sides by the fanbois and the naysayers.
I'm waiting to see if it ever gets released. If it does I'd be more than happy to try it out.
Played : WOW, LOTRO, COH/COV, EQ2, SWG, and WAR. Playing EVE Online and AOC. Wtg for SW:TOR and WOD
Darkfall will be a very harsh game.. And this post is completely off topic.. But, I predict when you log in, you'll get ganked. Then, you'll get a tell saying "Welcome to Darkfall, thanks for the stuff".
And back to ontopic..
I've noticed this everywhere..
If you aren't overly praising the game.. you think it must suck.. which.. I don't, nor have I ever said. I think the game is be awesome.. and if it's as large as the devs said.. It'll be RAD.. but since I don't trust anything the devs say as far as release goes.. I must be a troll?
I pretty much agree with everything you have said. I've always been one of the naysayers, so to speak, but It appears like Darkfall will finally be coming out after all these years, but when is still anyone's guess. Still have my doubts though. Here's what I believe will happen. Darkfall will not release by end of 2008. The fans will immediately begin the mantra of "1st Quarter 2009!", and we will still be having the same argument that has been going on for many years. There will be a ton of excuses thrown at us, and most fanbois will hammer us with... "It will take as long as it takes to get the game PERFECT!" AND... "Have patience!" I also don't think the open beta will come off this year either. I know the 10th of Novemeber has been eluded to, but somehow I don't believe they will pull that off. Remember when the "main" video was released in August? At that time the fans were POSITIVE that open beta would begin in early October. That didn't happen either. However... I'm not a troll. I believe the game will eventually release this time. None of this would make any sense to me otherwise. I mean, if it never releases, how on earth could you explain the last 8 years away? So. I think it will. But when and in what shape? That's the question.
thats was the fans guessing tasos said nothing about beta
That's true. I said nothing about Tasos eluding to beta. Point is, the fans were beating everyone over the head with "facts", and of course, were incorrect as we now know.
I pretty much agree with everything you have said. I've always been one of the naysayers, so to speak, but It appears like Darkfall will finally be coming out after all these years, but when is still anyone's guess. Still have my doubts though. Here's what I believe will happen. Darkfall will not release by end of 2008. The fans will immediately begin the mantra of "1st Quarter 2009!", and we will still be having the same argument that has been going on for many years. There will be a ton of excuses thrown at us, and most fanbois will hammer us with... "It will take as long as it takes to get the game PERFECT!" AND... "Have patience!" I also don't think the open beta will come off this year either. I know the 10th of Novemeber has been eluded to, but somehow I don't believe they will pull that off. Remember when the "main" video was released in August? At that time the fans were POSITIVE that open beta would begin in early October. That didn't happen either. However... I'm not a troll. I believe the game will eventually release this time. None of this would make any sense to me otherwise. I mean, if it never releases, how on earth could you explain the last 8 years away? So. I think it will. But when and in what shape? That's the question.
thats was the fans guessing tasos said nothing about beta
That's true. I said nothing about Tasos eluding to beta. Point is, the fans were beating everyone over the head with "facts", and of course, were incorrect as we now know.
Funny that if you are a fan, you are working with facts, if you are a troll, you arent.
My point was that ironically, the fans throw out their own brand of "facts". If theyve labeled you as a troll, nothing you say will ever hold as much weight as one of their "facts". Even though neither side has actually played the game.
i couldnt care either way, since i am neither for nor against darkfall, but the current "preview" of what the community is going to be like is what is going to keep me away.
What preview?
Again the people who make up these forums + the official DF forums will be <5% of the community you will see in game. If that.
Majority of MMOers dont POST consistently on the game forums.
The VAST majority of MMOers dont POST on the game forums before the game is released.
So thinking a community for a game is based off the diehards on the official forums...is pretty silly if you ask me.
This game will bring some of the nastiest people in the MMO community to it.
Full loot pvp? Gankers paradise, Go take a look at shadowbane, it has some of the most infamous people the MMORPG genre has to offer.
Youll have griefers, gankers, chest beating smack talkers etc. This wont be a pretty little teddy bear picnic, it will be filled with hate from day one, Im already looking forward to some of the hate tells Im probably going to get for repeatedly ganking people, taking screen shots, and having a jolly old laugh at the expense of people who dont know what theyre getting into. Thats why I still play Shadowbane, nothing is more fun than making people QQ and having it be built into the way the game plays.
Trust me when I say that a lot of the nastiest MMO players in existence will be leaving Shadowbane to play Darkfall, your forums will be filled with tears, and people will eat it up.
In fact, Ill even throw a few phrases out there that you will likely hear, after you kill someone
"Man, attacking me while I was fighting mobs is lame, youre an a**hole."
"3v1? wheres your honor, scared to fight me fair?"
"F**k you noobie, only noobies kill lowbies"
I cant wait, the tears will flow.
This is why the game will never succeed. It will not be a niche game, and it will never have a chance. That is if it actually gets released.
While I will agree with anyone stating the "carebear" mentality of todays games, fact is that the "carebear" gaming is what sells. Sad but true. Full loot PvP games will never be self-sustaining.
i couldnt care either way, since i am neither for nor against darkfall, but the current "preview" of what the community is going to be like is what is going to keep me away.
What preview?
Again the people who make up these forums + the official DF forums will be <5% of the community you will see in game. If that.
Majority of MMOers dont POST consistently on the game forums.
The VAST majority of MMOers dont POST on the game forums before the game is released.
So thinking a community for a game is based off the diehards on the official forums...is pretty silly if you ask me.
This game will bring some of the nastiest people in the MMO community to it.
Full loot pvp? Gankers paradise, Go take a look at shadowbane, it has some of the most infamous people the MMORPG genre has to offer.
Youll have griefers, gankers, chest beating smack talkers etc. This wont be a pretty little teddy bear picnic, it will be filled with hate from day one, Im already looking forward to some of the hate tells Im probably going to get for repeatedly ganking people, taking screen shots, and having a jolly old laugh at the expense of people who dont know what theyre getting into. Thats why I still play Shadowbane, nothing is more fun than making people QQ and having it be built into the way the game plays.
Trust me when I say that a lot of the nastiest MMO players in existence will be leaving Shadowbane to play Darkfall, your forums will be filled with tears, and people will eat it up.
In fact, Ill even throw a few phrases out there that you will likely hear, after you kill someone
"Man, attacking me while I was fighting mobs is lame, youre an a**hole."
"3v1? wheres your honor, scared to fight me fair?"
"F**k you noobie, only noobies kill lowbies"
I cant wait, the tears will flow.
This is why the game will never succeed. It will not be a niche game, and it will never have a chance. That is if it actually gets released.
While I will agree with anyone stating the "carebear" mentality of todays games, fact is that the "carebear" gaming is what sells. Sad but true. Full loot PvP games will never be self-sustaining.
maybe yous houlkd count how many pre trammel private servers theres is an add up all the users
As a fan of Darkfall I have to agree with what Random_mage has been trying to say here. It can annoy the hell out of me to see some well-founded criticism being totally bashed, not even answered to in any other way than calling the poster a troll and making some "witty" comments back.
It gets even worse when you realize that the opposite side from these the blindest of fans are actually worse. While I can have some understanding why some fan can be so wound up in the game that he cant accept any criticism, I don't understand how people can have so much against it that they act the same blind way. If you don't like it, don't spend time on its forums? Why bother wasting your time on it then? I think Battle For Middle-Earth II is a poor excuse of a game, but I won't skip playing it just to spend the same amount of time whining about it in a BFME2 forum.
The fanatism of one side feeds the other, so its a neverending circle that just gets worse. Anyone with half a brain should realise there is still lots of question marks about Darkfall. Of course there is, it's a game that is not yet released or in an open beta. There is so much we don't know. Name one feature and all we can say is that they have the right idea, but we don't know how well it is implemented. Anyone with half a brain should also realise that just because this is not directed at the same crowd as the massive theme-park MMOs and there is a niche for it, and as long as it is implemented well it could establish in that niche and be very successful for its type of game (200k subs).
My suggestion to all of you is to stop wasting your time on these forums until the game is actually released into open beta and you can see if you love it, hate it or just have a healthy interest.
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What preview?
Again the people who make up these forums + the official DF forums will be <5% of the community you will see in game. If that.
Majority of MMOers dont POST consistently on the game forums.
The VAST majority of MMOers dont POST on the game forums before the game is released.
So thinking a community for a game is based off the diehards on the official forums...is pretty silly if you ask me.
This game will bring some of the nastiest people in the MMO community to it.
Full loot pvp? Gankers paradise, Go take a look at shadowbane, it has some of the most infamous people the MMORPG genre has to offer.
Youll have griefers, gankers, chest beating smack talkers etc. This wont be a pretty little teddy bear picnic, it will be filled with hate from day one, Im already looking forward to some of the hate tells Im probably going to get for repeatedly ganking people, taking screen shots, and having a jolly old laugh at the expense of people who dont know what theyre getting into. Thats why I still play Shadowbane, nothing is more fun than making people QQ and having it be built into the way the game plays.
Trust me when I say that a lot of the nastiest MMO players in existence will be leaving Shadowbane to play Darkfall, your forums will be filled with tears, and people will eat it up.
In fact, Ill even throw a few phrases out there that you will likely hear, after you kill someone
"Man, attacking me while I was fighting mobs is lame, youre an a**hole."
"3v1? wheres your honor, scared to fight me fair?"
"F**k you noobie, only noobies kill lowbies"
I cant wait, the tears will flow.
except shadowbane had levels huge diffrence
its goign ot be funny when that new players kicks and older players arse
Vanguard was buggy as hell in beta and bugs werent beign fixed veryf ast as soon as soe took it over i knew it was going to fail.
I don't quite understand how killing in way shape or form can be considered nasty in a FFAPVP game.
Would you also say that COD4 attracts the nastiest people in the gaming world because of it's propensity to encourage player killing?
What preview?
Again the people who make up these forums + the official DF forums will be <5% of the community you will see in game. If that.
Majority of MMOers dont POST consistently on the game forums.
The VAST majority of MMOers dont POST on the game forums before the game is released.
So thinking a community for a game is based off the diehards on the official forums...is pretty silly if you ask me.
This game will bring some of the nastiest people in the MMO community to it.
Full loot pvp? Gankers paradise, Go take a look at shadowbane, it has some of the most infamous people the MMORPG genre has to offer.
Youll have griefers, gankers, chest beating smack talkers etc. This wont be a pretty little teddy bear picnic, it will be filled with hate from day one, Im already looking forward to some of the hate tells Im probably going to get for repeatedly ganking people, taking screen shots, and having a jolly old laugh at the expense of people who dont know what theyre getting into. Thats why I still play Shadowbane, nothing is more fun than making people QQ and having it be built into the way the game plays.
Trust me when I say that a lot of the nastiest MMO players in existence will be leaving Shadowbane to play Darkfall, your forums will be filled with tears, and people will eat it up.
In fact, Ill even throw a few phrases out there that you will likely hear, after you kill someone
"Man, attacking me while I was fighting mobs is lame, youre an a**hole."
"3v1? wheres your honor, scared to fight me fair?"
"F**k you noobie, only noobies kill lowbies"
I cant wait, the tears will flow.
except shadowbane had levels huge diffrence
Explain that to me, explain to me how not having levels is going to save you from being repeatedly ganked by power gamers who will only play the game to revel in the games design when it comes to taking YOUR gear, and laughing in your face?
Doesnt matter that its not level based, it wont save you from the exact same fate, or dealing with the exact same bloodthirsty people.
You are kidding yourself if you think you will get anywhere in this game without a large guild boasting large numbers.
If you run your mouth to a larger guild in shadowbane, they take your city, all your gold, and time invested, goes down the drain, and Darkfall wont be any different.
I think a lot of the fans dont even know what theyre going to be getting into, It will be NASTY.
if its sucks i just shrug my shoulders and dont play mmos any more : /. but i havent even been biten by the hype bug yet. even tho i do defend darkfall but i just do that because i can and its pisses the trolls off: )
What preview?
Again the people who make up these forums + the official DF forums will be <5% of the community you will see in game. If that.
Majority of MMOers dont POST consistently on the game forums.
The VAST majority of MMOers dont POST on the game forums before the game is released.
So thinking a community for a game is based off the diehards on the official forums...is pretty silly if you ask me.
This game will bring some of the nastiest people in the MMO community to it.
Full loot pvp? Gankers paradise, Go take a look at shadowbane, it has some of the most infamous people the MMORPG genre has to offer.
Youll have griefers, gankers, chest beating smack talkers etc. This wont be a pretty little teddy bear picnic, it will be filled with hate from day one, Im already looking forward to some of the hate tells Im probably going to get for repeatedly ganking people, taking screen shots, and having a jolly old laugh at the expense of people who dont know what theyre getting into. Thats why I still play Shadowbane, nothing is more fun than making people QQ and having it be built into the way the game plays.
Trust me when I say that a lot of the nastiest MMO players in existence will be leaving Shadowbane to play Darkfall, your forums will be filled with tears, and people will eat it up.
In fact, Ill even throw a few phrases out there that you will likely hear, after you kill someone
"Man, attacking me while I was fighting mobs is lame, youre an a**hole."
"3v1? wheres your honor, scared to fight me fair?"
"F**k you noobie, only noobies kill lowbies"
I cant wait, the tears will flow.
except shadowbane had levels huge diffrence
Explain that to me, explain to me how not having levels is going to save you from being repeatedly ganked by power gamers who will only play the game to revel in the games design when it comes to taking YOUR gear, and laughing in your face?
Doesnt matter that its not level based, it wont save you from the exact same fate, or dealing with the exact same bloodthirsty people.
You are kidding yourself if you think you will get anywhere in this game without a large guild boasting large numbers.
If you run your mouth to a larger guild in shadowbane, they take your city, all your gold, and time invested, goes down the drain, and Darkfall wont be any different.
I think a lot of the fans dont even know what theyre going to be getting into, It will be NASTY.
LOL ok you think that i dont think shadowbane had npc gaurds you can hire to help protect the city.
and if you cant afford enough of them. maybe you should allie with a bigger clan or not own a town yet >.>
btw i played uo on aprivate server pre trammel guess what i got killed quit a bit it didnt bother me and that has a worse ratio than darkfall i think.
if your so worrid why dont you just stop coming her and QQ because the fans arent going to listen anyways
What preview?
Again the people who make up these forums + the official DF forums will be <5% of the community you will see in game. If that.
Majority of MMOers dont POST consistently on the game forums.
The VAST majority of MMOers dont POST on the game forums before the game is released.
So thinking a community for a game is based off the diehards on the official forums...is pretty silly if you ask me.
This game will bring some of the nastiest people in the MMO community to it.
Full loot pvp? Gankers paradise, Go take a look at shadowbane, it has some of the most infamous people the MMORPG genre has to offer.
Youll have griefers, gankers, chest beating smack talkers etc. This wont be a pretty little teddy bear picnic, it will be filled with hate from day one, Im already looking forward to some of the hate tells Im probably going to get for repeatedly ganking people, taking screen shots, and having a jolly old laugh at the expense of people who dont know what theyre getting into. Thats why I still play Shadowbane, nothing is more fun than making people QQ and having it be built into the way the game plays.
Trust me when I say that a lot of the nastiest MMO players in existence will be leaving Shadowbane to play Darkfall, your forums will be filled with tears, and people will eat it up.
In fact, Ill even throw a few phrases out there that you will likely hear, after you kill someone
"Man, attacking me while I was fighting mobs is lame, youre an a**hole."
"3v1? wheres your honor, scared to fight me fair?"
"F**k you noobie, only noobies kill lowbies"
I cant wait, the tears will flow.
except shadowbane had levels huge diffrence
Explain that to me, explain to me how not having levels is going to save you from being repeatedly ganked by power gamers who will only play the game to revel in the games design when it comes to taking YOUR gear, and laughing in your face?
Doesnt matter that its not level based, it wont save you from the exact same fate, or dealing with the exact same bloodthirsty people.
You are kidding yourself if you think you will get anywhere in this game without a large guild boasting large numbers.
If you run your mouth to a larger guild in shadowbane, they take your city, all your gold, and time invested, goes down the drain, and Darkfall wont be any different.
I think a lot of the fans dont even know what theyre going to be getting into, It will be NASTY.
LOL ok you think that i dont think shadowbane had npc gaurds you can hire to help protect the city.
and if you cant afford enough of them. maybe you should allie with a bigger clan or not own a town yet >.>
btw i played uo on aprivate server pre trammel guess what i got killed quit a bit it didnt bother me and that has a worse ratio than darkfall i think.
if your so worrid why dont you just stop coming her and QQ because the fans arent going to listen anyways
the npc guards are easy to kill, and even easier because they dont see GM stealth.
They cant protect you, not from theft or death.
Trust me son, Im not QQing, Ive played Shadowbane for years, and am in one of the largest most well established guilds in existence.
Mad Mercs, go look em up on the Shadowbane forums, better yet, go take a look at the number of cities we control on our server.
My point is, Id be willing to bet that 90% of the fans have no idea what kind of game this is going to be when it comes to the community.
Hardcore doesnt even come close to defining the type of people that will make this game a headache for you day in and day out.
To be honest Arken I think that you have just scupperd your own trolling game by your description of Darkfall pvp as being nasty. That is what the game is about, using the description "nasty" to describe it shows more about your attitude to gaming than it does about Darkfall itself.
It is now obvious to me that you are the kind of person who doesn't want no "nasty PKers" (read other people playing the game) ruining his day as he romps through happy pixie & fairy land on his way to a big adventure at the magic castle, and maybe even stealing his magic beans whilst they are at it! The fiends!!.
What preview?
Again the people who make up these forums + the official DF forums will be <5% of the community you will see in game. If that.
Majority of MMOers dont POST consistently on the game forums.
The VAST majority of MMOers dont POST on the game forums before the game is released.
So thinking a community for a game is based off the diehards on the official forums...is pretty silly if you ask me.
This game will bring some of the nastiest people in the MMO community to it.
Full loot pvp? Gankers paradise, Go take a look at shadowbane, it has some of the most infamous people the MMORPG genre has to offer.
Youll have griefers, gankers, chest beating smack talkers etc. This wont be a pretty little teddy bear picnic, it will be filled with hate from day one, Im already looking forward to some of the hate tells Im probably going to get for repeatedly ganking people, taking screen shots, and having a jolly old laugh at the expense of people who dont know what theyre getting into. Thats why I still play Shadowbane, nothing is more fun than making people QQ and having it be built into the way the game plays.
Trust me when I say that a lot of the nastiest MMO players in existence will be leaving Shadowbane to play Darkfall, your forums will be filled with tears, and people will eat it up.
In fact, Ill even throw a few phrases out there that you will likely hear, after you kill someone
"Man, attacking me while I was fighting mobs is lame, youre an a**hole."
"3v1? wheres your honor, scared to fight me fair?"
"F**k you noobie, only noobies kill lowbies"
I cant wait, the tears will flow.
except shadowbane had levels huge diffrence
Explain that to me, explain to me how not having levels is going to save you from being repeatedly ganked by power gamers who will only play the game to revel in the games design when it comes to taking YOUR gear, and laughing in your face?
Doesnt matter that its not level based, it wont save you from the exact same fate, or dealing with the exact same bloodthirsty people.
You are kidding yourself if you think you will get anywhere in this game without a large guild boasting large numbers.
If you run your mouth to a larger guild in shadowbane, they take your city, all your gold, and time invested, goes down the drain, and Darkfall wont be any different.
I think a lot of the fans dont even know what theyre going to be getting into, It will be NASTY.
LOL ok you think that i dont think shadowbane had npc gaurds you can hire to help protect the city.
and if you cant afford enough of them. maybe you should allie with a bigger clan or not own a town yet >.>
btw i played uo on aprivate server pre trammel guess what i got killed quit a bit it didnt bother me and that has a worse ratio than darkfall i think.
if your so worrid why dont you just stop coming her and QQ because the fans arent going to listen anyways
the npc guards are easy to kill, and even easier because they dont see GM stealth.
They cant protect you, not from theft or death.
Trust me son, Im not QQing, Ive played Shadowbane for years, and am in one of the largest most well established guilds in existence.
Mad Mercs, go look em up on the Shadowbane forums, better yet, go take a look at the number of cities we control on our server.
My point is, Id be willing to bet that 90% of the fans have no idea what kind of game this is going to be when it comes to the community.
Hardcore doesnt even come close to defining the type of people that will make this game a headache for you day in and day out.
there is no stealth guess what darkfall npcs are hard ot killdepending how much money you spend on them
Actually sir, read my above post, I love ffa pvp with no rules, and thats why I still play Shadowbane. I cant get enough of actual risk when you leave your guilds city. Google Manshoon, hes the guild leader of my longtime guild Zhentil Keep. He along with Zhentil Keep are one of the most infamous guilds out there, weve stirred up trouble in Shadowbane, AoC, and currently WAR.
I mainly only play stealth gank builds in shadowbane, and am constantly looking for people silly enough to be out there alone trying to farm, theyre farming, but its going to be MY money shortly, thats how I farm.
Go read the Shadowbane forums, get a taste of the attitude there, and how many people QQ about how "mean" my guild is.
Ill tell ya what, when Darkfall goes live, Ill post my characters name on here, and you come find me in game, and see just how well you do against me and my guild, lets see if you can do the same.
'just see how well you do against me and my guild'
And if that doesn't work I'll have my big brother beat you up.
Actually sir, read my above post, I love ffa pvp with no rules, and thats why I still play Shadowbane. I cant get enough of actual risk when you leave your guilds city. Google Manshoon, hes the guild leader of my longtime guild Zhentil Keep. He along with Zhentil Keep are one of the most infamous guilds out there, weve stirred up trouble in Shadowbane, AoC, and currently WAR.
I mainly only play stealth gank builds in shadowbane, and am constantly looking for people silly enough to be out there alone trying to farm, theyre farming, but its going to be MY money shortly, thats how I farm.
Go read the Shadowbane forums, get a taste of the attitude there, and how many people QQ about how "mean" my guild is.
Ill tell ya what, when Darkfall goes live, Ill post my characters name on here, and you come find me in game, and see just how well you do against me and my guild, lets see if you can do the same.
LOL ok you have fun your in for a surprise
I have read your post above and my opinion is unchanged and likely to remain impervious to any attempts to alter it.
However, I will gladly except your offer to post your ingame name on this forum.
Im on the fence about this game. Not on either side. I just enjoy coming to the Darkfall forums to see the sniping being done on both sides by the fanbois and the naysayers.
I'm waiting to see if it ever gets released. If it does I'd be more than happy to try it out.
Played : WOW, LOTRO, COH/COV, EQ2, SWG, and WAR.
Playing EVE Online and AOC.
Wtg for SW:TOR and WOD
Darkfall will be a very harsh game.. And this post is completely off topic.. But, I predict when you log in, you'll get ganked. Then, you'll get a tell saying "Welcome to Darkfall, thanks for the stuff".
And back to ontopic..
I've noticed this everywhere..
If you aren't overly praising the game.. you think it must suck.. which.. I don't, nor have I ever said. I think the game is be awesome.. and if it's as large as the devs said.. It'll be RAD.. but since I don't trust anything the devs say as far as release goes.. I must be a troll?
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thats was the fans guessing tasos said nothing about beta
That's true. I said nothing about Tasos eluding to beta. Point is, the fans were beating everyone over the head with "facts", and of course, were incorrect as we now know.
thats was the fans guessing tasos said nothing about beta
That's true. I said nothing about Tasos eluding to beta. Point is, the fans were beating everyone over the head with "facts", and of course, were incorrect as we now know.
Funny that if you are a fan, you are working with facts, if you are a troll, you arent.
So.. your saying that the Trolls views are entirely based off of opinion, and the fans views are entirely based off of fact?
Boy.. are you out of touch.
Here's a thought:
Fact: Devs have planned beta for 5 years.
Fact: open beta hasn't opened yet.
So.. where is the fact that most fans work off to disprove this?
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My point was that ironically, the fans throw out their own brand of "facts". If theyve labeled you as a troll, nothing you say will ever hold as much weight as one of their "facts". Even though neither side has actually played the game.
Compared to how many years of your life you've wasted on this unreleased game?
What preview?
Again the people who make up these forums + the official DF forums will be <5% of the community you will see in game. If that.
Majority of MMOers dont POST consistently on the game forums.
The VAST majority of MMOers dont POST on the game forums before the game is released.
So thinking a community for a game is based off the diehards on the official forums...is pretty silly if you ask me.
This game will bring some of the nastiest people in the MMO community to it.
Full loot pvp? Gankers paradise, Go take a look at shadowbane, it has some of the most infamous people the MMORPG genre has to offer.
Youll have griefers, gankers, chest beating smack talkers etc. This wont be a pretty little teddy bear picnic, it will be filled with hate from day one, Im already looking forward to some of the hate tells Im probably going to get for repeatedly ganking people, taking screen shots, and having a jolly old laugh at the expense of people who dont know what theyre getting into. Thats why I still play Shadowbane, nothing is more fun than making people QQ and having it be built into the way the game plays.
Trust me when I say that a lot of the nastiest MMO players in existence will be leaving Shadowbane to play Darkfall, your forums will be filled with tears, and people will eat it up.
In fact, Ill even throw a few phrases out there that you will likely hear, after you kill someone
"Man, attacking me while I was fighting mobs is lame, youre an a**hole."
"3v1? wheres your honor, scared to fight me fair?"
"F**k you noobie, only noobies kill lowbies"
I cant wait, the tears will flow.
This is why the game will never succeed. It will not be a niche game, and it will never have a chance. That is if it actually gets released.
While I will agree with anyone stating the "carebear" mentality of todays games, fact is that the "carebear" gaming is what sells. Sad but true. Full loot PvP games will never be self-sustaining.
and see just how well you do against me and my guild, lets see if you can do the same.
Guild-peen.
What preview?
Again the people who make up these forums + the official DF forums will be <5% of the community you will see in game. If that.
Majority of MMOers dont POST consistently on the game forums.
The VAST majority of MMOers dont POST on the game forums before the game is released.
So thinking a community for a game is based off the diehards on the official forums...is pretty silly if you ask me.
This game will bring some of the nastiest people in the MMO community to it.
Full loot pvp? Gankers paradise, Go take a look at shadowbane, it has some of the most infamous people the MMORPG genre has to offer.
Youll have griefers, gankers, chest beating smack talkers etc. This wont be a pretty little teddy bear picnic, it will be filled with hate from day one, Im already looking forward to some of the hate tells Im probably going to get for repeatedly ganking people, taking screen shots, and having a jolly old laugh at the expense of people who dont know what theyre getting into. Thats why I still play Shadowbane, nothing is more fun than making people QQ and having it be built into the way the game plays.
Trust me when I say that a lot of the nastiest MMO players in existence will be leaving Shadowbane to play Darkfall, your forums will be filled with tears, and people will eat it up.
In fact, Ill even throw a few phrases out there that you will likely hear, after you kill someone
"Man, attacking me while I was fighting mobs is lame, youre an a**hole."
"3v1? wheres your honor, scared to fight me fair?"
"F**k you noobie, only noobies kill lowbies"
I cant wait, the tears will flow.
This is why the game will never succeed. It will not be a niche game, and it will never have a chance. That is if it actually gets released.
While I will agree with anyone stating the "carebear" mentality of todays games, fact is that the "carebear" gaming is what sells. Sad but true. Full loot PvP games will never be self-sustaining.
maybe yous houlkd count how many pre trammel private servers theres is an add up all the users
As a fan of Darkfall I have to agree with what Random_mage has been trying to say here. It can annoy the hell out of me to see some well-founded criticism being totally bashed, not even answered to in any other way than calling the poster a troll and making some "witty" comments back.
It gets even worse when you realize that the opposite side from these the blindest of fans are actually worse. While I can have some understanding why some fan can be so wound up in the game that he cant accept any criticism, I don't understand how people can have so much against it that they act the same blind way. If you don't like it, don't spend time on its forums? Why bother wasting your time on it then? I think Battle For Middle-Earth II is a poor excuse of a game, but I won't skip playing it just to spend the same amount of time whining about it in a BFME2 forum.
The fanatism of one side feeds the other, so its a neverending circle that just gets worse. Anyone with half a brain should realise there is still lots of question marks about Darkfall. Of course there is, it's a game that is not yet released or in an open beta. There is so much we don't know. Name one feature and all we can say is that they have the right idea, but we don't know how well it is implemented. Anyone with half a brain should also realise that just because this is not directed at the same crowd as the massive theme-park MMOs and there is a niche for it, and as long as it is implemented well it could establish in that niche and be very successful for its type of game (200k subs).
My suggestion to all of you is to stop wasting your time on these forums until the game is actually released into open beta and you can see if you love it, hate it or just have a healthy interest.
and see just how well you do against me and my guild, lets see if you can do the same.
Guild-peen.
My guilds been together for over 10 years, I think deserves a modicum of respect.