Nothing. I was just stating that they are the only 2 "allowed" to talk about it. Never mind all the beta testers that are not allowed to talk about it but do anyways.
Well everything have its time. Im also abit frustrated that i cant get even more info on game and enter the beta.
They started it on the 10:th and we will be able to play it hopefully all very soon. Few beta leaks is something i applaud.
DarkFall is definetly better than LoTR, Chars and eviroment. DarkFall has better Enviroments than AoC but I still think AoC has better Char models. The ground, the sky, the tree's every piece of terrain in DarkFall just looks leaps and bounds better than any other MMO. The Char models aren't the best but they are decent. You can definetly tell most of the time and resources went into the enviroment. All in all I would say it is on Par with AoC because one has awsome enviroments and the other has awsome char models. The DarkFall char models look on par with AoC enviroment and the AoC Char models look on par with DarkFall eviroments.
graphics without looking at lag: AoC decks the floor
graphics looking at lag: DFO decks the floor
overall: AoC
I mean DFO does not have a PATHETIC graphics system, the effects and textures REALLY good for an mmo, the only problem is (and its a gigantic problem) are animations, and particle effects (like fire) but these are forgivable b/c you don't see them as much as ANIMATIONS. I mean the animations are outright HORRIBLE.
IF the animations were good, then DFO would have a fighting chance in the category of "graphics without looking at lag" and would definately win "overall," but they don't. Conan has some amazing stuff, as of now the difference b/w Conan graphics and DF graphics is GIGANTIC... but Conan will lag the Sh1t out of your pc and has utter sh!t of gameplay, so DF is definately a better game (lol even in its forum form: forumfall) but I didn't want people to make fun of Conan on its one and only forte, its a really good looking game they spent a lot of time on that sh1t.
Originally posted by twhint I dunno. Based on the preview that I saw earlier this year, I would put Darkfalls graphics comparable to AC or something. They simply look outdated, as has been stated. I wouldn't put them up as an example of cutting edge by any means.
-Edited: Fixed the game I mentioned. I didn't mean Anarchy Online, I meant Asheron's Call.
If you said Asheron's Call 2 this would be easy to ignore but AC1?
Is this post a joke or are you fanboys really that blind? Ive seen all the recent videos(in high res) and screenshots from Darkfall and also play AOC, Darkfall comes no were close to having as nice graphics as AOC in ANY catagory whatsoever. To say otherwise is pure lunacy. Any idiot can look at the two and pick AOC if you say otherwise either your legally blind or must be paid by Adventurine. Im not saying Darkfall is a worse game as its not released yet that would be impossible to tell but no way does it compare in graphics to AOC.
Is this post a joke or are you fanboys really that blind? Ive seen all the recent videos(in high res) and screenshots from Darkfall and also play AOC, Darkfall comes no were close to having as nice graphics as AOC in ANY catagory whatsoever. To say otherwise is pure lunacy. Any idiot can look at the two and pick AOC if you say otherwise either your legally blind or must be paid by Adventurine. Im not saying Darkfall is a worse game as its not released yet that would be impossible to tell but no way does it compare in graphics to AOC.
lol i agree, me and some friends watched the 1005 in game video yesterday for DF in high res and OMG we couldnt watch it all through the laughter.
most of us have played mmos for years and alot of mmos at that and DF looks like it should have been released 6 years ago not been being made for 6 years. i dont think its really comparable to any new mmo or recent mmo it seems to lack alot of animatings, character differences, skill animation and overall gfx seem very outdated. and well people will moan about this post i dont care. have you guys even seen Aventurine SA's website? it all seems very low budget. i hope that the people who are REALLY waiting for this game are not expecting too much.
maybe it will prove me wrong, but watching the recent videos has put me and many people off this game.
Someone actually said Darkfall graphics are better than AoC or Lotro? The graphics are not pathetic. It's the animations that are. But the graphics aren't even EQ2 quality.
The environments for Darkfall look pretty good, however, the character models are not something to write home about.
Even if some one has played it they can't tell you that they have. Again. Don't even bother trying to say that it looks better than AoC or Lotro because you'll be dissapointed. Again. It looks great but not better.
Now, the screenshots of AoC and LOTRO are in the highest settings.
The screenshots of DFO are from the beta, and on ''default'' settings. So lets say if you have low - medium - high settings these are on medium, MEDIUM! And still the art style is nicer. ( imo )
We might even have a ''ultra high'' setting but I doubt it.
The world of DFO is probably bigger then LOTRO + AoC , ( not sure ) one of the beta quotes : “I walked from Chopping Necks (westernmost Ork starter town) to the coast to the east over 2 or 3 hours and NOT ONCE was I bored with repetitive landscape. There is almost always a settlement of goblins, freaky bird-men, hivekin, or something going on, and it's on all sides of you. I swam to an island off the coast, then to a second island. In total, the trip took about 4-5 hours one-way. I explored what looked like ~3% of the total map. Do the math! The world is gigantic!”
lets say... 2.5 hours + 4.5 hours = 7 hours.
3% of the map in 7 hours. that's fucking huge. and everything in the world is handcrafted.
AND the developer team is much smaller then other companies, stop bulshitting about the 8 year development shit, because they had to start over building the game again.
Even if some one has played it they can't tell you that they have. Again. Don't even bother trying to say that it looks better than AoC or Lotro because you'll be dissapointed. Again. It looks great but not better.
Now, the screenshots of AoC and LOTRO are in the highest settings.
The screenshots of DFO are from the beta, and on ''default'' settings. So lets say if you have low - medium - high settings these are on medium, MEDIUM! And still the art style is nicer. ( imo )
We might even have a ''ultra high'' setting but I doubt it.
The world of DFO is probably bigger then LOTRO + AoC , ( not sure ) one of the beta quotes : “I walked from Chopping Necks (westernmost Ork starter town) to the coast to the east over 2 or 3 hours and NOT ONCE was I bored with repetitive landscape. There is almost always a settlement of goblins, freaky bird-men, hivekin, or something going on, and it's on all sides of you. I swam to an island off the coast, then to a second island. In total, the trip took about 4-5 hours one-way. I explored what looked like ~3% of the total map. Do the math! The world is gigantic!”
lets say... 2.5 hours + 4.5 hours = 7 hours.
3% of the map in 7 hours. that's fucking huge. and everything in the world is handcrafted.
AND the developer team is much smaller then other companies, stop bulshitting about the 8 year development shit, because they had to start over building the game again.
Conclusion : DFO pwns > all
Going to have to call BS on the high-lighted portion above.
Those pics above of the LoTRo character are barely at lowest setting maybe. Here's a couple links that might give a different perspective... a bit of a difference.
It's not that hard to tell the truth about games. If you like one better than another, it's not a big deal to say so. There is really no need to lie about them though.
Even if some one has played it they can't tell you that they have. Again. Don't even bother trying to say that it looks better than AoC or Lotro because you'll be dissapointed. Again. It looks great but not better.
Now, the screenshots of AoC and LOTRO are in the highest settings.
The screenshots of DFO are from the beta, and on ''default'' settings. So lets say if you have low - medium - high settings these are on medium, MEDIUM! And still the art style is nicer. ( imo )
We might even have a ''ultra high'' setting but I doubt it.
The world of DFO is probably bigger then LOTRO + AoC , ( not sure ) one of the beta quotes : “I walked from Chopping Necks (westernmost Ork starter town) to the coast to the east over 2 or 3 hours and NOT ONCE was I bored with repetitive landscape. There is almost always a settlement of goblins, freaky bird-men, hivekin, or something going on, and it's on all sides of you. I swam to an island off the coast, then to a second island. In total, the trip took about 4-5 hours one-way. I explored what looked like ~3% of the total map. Do the math! The world is gigantic!”
lets say... 2.5 hours + 4.5 hours = 7 hours.
3% of the map in 7 hours. that's fucking huge. and everything in the world is handcrafted.
AND the developer team is much smaller then other companies, stop bulshitting about the 8 year development shit, because they had to start over building the game again.
Conclusion : DFO pwns > all
Going to have to call BS on the high-lighted portion above.
Those pics above of the LoTRo character are barely at lowest setting maybe. Here's a couple links that might give a different perspective... a bit of a difference.
It's not that hard to tell the truth about games. If you like one better than another, it's not a big deal to say so. There is really no need to lie about them though.
Yeah AoC did a good job with the char models, I just wish there enviroments didn't look so bad. I mean with the ammount of gameplay that was sacrificed for the graphics you'd imagine that AoC would have steller char models and enviroments. DFO's enviroments are beautiful in comparison, there char models aren't the greatest though. LoTRO is ok it fails in comparison graphics wise to both but beats AoC gameplay wise, the reason I say it beats AoC gameplay wise is because AoC is like a sandbox, themepark hybrid that just couldn't get either aspect right. To linear for a decent sandbox and to open for a decent themepark, bad enviroments but very good char models. DFO > LoTRO gameplay and graphics wise though.
In my opinion Darkfall graphics are mediocre at best
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Now in MY opinion...Darkfall graphics are only beaten by AoC in the fantasy mmo genre. The animations need work. The environments however I feel beat anything out there in the genre.
Also, in the opinions of a lot of people playing the game, and the people who wrote the review after playing it today (depending on time zone) also feel that it is the best in the industry right now.
Opinions are fun. And it seems like a lot of opinions of people actually playing the game seem to be that the graphics are way above industry standards of games like WAR, WoW, LOTRO etc on the market right now.
Graphics are subjective; thus everyone is right and wrong.
Couldn't agree more.
But there are exceptions. When someone says something like DF graphics are the same as eq1 or 1990s wolfenstein or ac1 then it becomes more clear that the opinions are just a smoke screen to give excuses for trolling.
Even if some one has played it they can't tell you that they have. Again. Don't even bother trying to say that it looks better than AoC or Lotro because you'll be dissapointed. Again. It looks great but not better.
Now, the screenshots of AoC and LOTRO are in the highest settings.
The screenshots of DFO are from the beta, and on ''default'' settings. So lets say if you have low - medium - high settings these are on medium, MEDIUM! And still the art style is nicer. ( imo )
We might even have a ''ultra high'' setting but I doubt it.
The world of DFO is probably bigger then LOTRO + AoC , ( not sure ) one of the beta quotes : “I walked from Chopping Necks (westernmost Ork starter town) to the coast to the east over 2 or 3 hours and NOT ONCE was I bored with repetitive landscape. There is almost always a settlement of goblins, freaky bird-men, hivekin, or something going on, and it's on all sides of you. I swam to an island off the coast, then to a second island. In total, the trip took about 4-5 hours one-way. I explored what looked like ~3% of the total map. Do the math! The world is gigantic!”
lets say... 2.5 hours + 4.5 hours = 7 hours.
3% of the map in 7 hours. that's fucking huge. and everything in the world is handcrafted.
AND the developer team is much smaller then other companies, stop bulshitting about the 8 year development shit, because they had to start over building the game again.
Conclusion : DFO pwns > all
Going to have to call BS on the high-lighted portion above.
Those pics above of the LoTRo character are barely at lowest setting maybe. Here's a couple links that might give a different perspective... a bit of a difference.
It's not that hard to tell the truth about games. If you like one better than another, it's not a big deal to say so. There is really no need to lie about them though.
Yeah AoC did a good job with the char models, I just wish there enviroments didn't look so bad. I mean with the ammount of gameplay that was sacrificed for the graphics you'd imagine that AoC would have steller char models and enviroments. DFO's enviroments are beautiful in comparison, there char models aren't the greatest though. LoTRO is ok it fails in comparison graphics wise to both but beats AoC gameplay wise, the reason I say it beats AoC gameplay wise is because AoC is like a sandbox, themepark hybrid that just couldn't get either aspect right. To linear for a decent sandbox and to open for a decent themepark, bad enviroments but very good char models. DFO > LoTRO gameplay and graphics wise though.
Yeah, graphics are going to be very subjective for every person.
I would have had no beef with Master25 saying he THINKS the graphics for DF are better than LoTRo and AoC. No problem there, that's his opinion.
It's when he posts screenshots for LoTRo and AoC, and then says they are "in the highest setting"; when anyone who is honest at all can clearly see that they are not. That's when it's a problem.
Just take the one screenshot of the character he posted for LoTRo... "in the highest setting". Just from the shoes alone it's very obvious that the texture setting is at one of, if not the lowest possible setting.
It's not a big deal to like another game over another... just be honest about it.
There is a thread opened on Darkfall main website where the Italian guys describe Darkfall graphics from playing the game and it seems they is just blown away by it. They inform us that Darkfall have the so far best graphic seen in a MMORPG game so far. Better then Lotro and Age of Conan. Just amazing. Its a matter of taste i guess but it seems that Darkfall really shine when you have it onscreen. Here is the thread and some poor google translation- http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=83029 Here is the quote from Mizaar where he points out what these Italians think of Darkfall onscreen graphics "Btw the most underlined aspect is that graphic kicks ass. They say it's the best they've seen in MMORPGS so far. So I guess all the people complaining about it are fooled by jpg quality "
Here is another quote from same thread about the overall preview thought on Dakfall from Navimel (page2) - "to be short the review on darkfall is extremely positive and confirm everything has been said on the beta report " Seems we have a winner here. Darkfall deliver and the larger companies games Warhammer and Age of Conan failed. Nice to see we might have a rebirth of good MMORPG games.
You know I wasn't gonna question the honesty / trustworthyness of the 2 guys Tasos's hand picked to open beta the game till this. Really you have to be F*cking kidding me. They are completely shoveling BS saying DF graphics look better then AoC in DX10. I mean really if this is the kind of objecticity we can expect from these guys then everything they say is very questionable / outright BS. At least its good to see even most of the Df fans here can see they are just blowing smoke now.
I honestly believe with this overbaord Hype/BS I think they did DF or at least its fans a major disservise. Whats gonna happen when players try fighting their 100x100 battles expecting AoC graphics and find out they been lied too? Yes theres gonna be alot of disappointed unhappy players griping when DF finally arrives (assuming its not put off another 3-4 years to try and bring it up to thier present hype level)
Sad thing is most Df fans seemed ok with the graphics not being cutting edge as long as the game was good, but Aventurine had to resort to what is obviously BS hype, just makes one wonder what other of their promises are now BS hype as well.
Even if some one has played it they can't tell you that they have. Again. Don't even bother trying to say that it looks better than AoC or Lotro because you'll be dissapointed. Again. It looks great but not better.
Now, the screenshots of AoC and LOTRO are in the highest settings.
The screenshots of DFO are from the beta, and on ''default'' settings. So lets say if you have low - medium - high settings these are on medium, MEDIUM! And still the art style is nicer. ( imo )
We might even have a ''ultra high'' setting but I doubt it.
The world of DFO is probably bigger then LOTRO + AoC , ( not sure ) one of the beta quotes : “I walked from Chopping Necks (westernmost Ork starter town) to the coast to the east over 2 or 3 hours and NOT ONCE was I bored with repetitive landscape. There is almost always a settlement of goblins, freaky bird-men, hivekin, or something going on, and it's on all sides of you. I swam to an island off the coast, then to a second island. In total, the trip took about 4-5 hours one-way. I explored what looked like ~3% of the total map. Do the math! The world is gigantic!”
lets say... 2.5 hours + 4.5 hours = 7 hours.
3% of the map in 7 hours. that's fucking huge. and everything in the world is handcrafted.
AND the developer team is much smaller then other companies, stop bulshitting about the 8 year development shit, because they had to start over building the game again.
Conclusion : DFO pwns > all
HAHAH you just lose all credibility for me. You put some low setting screen of LOTRO and AOC and pretend this is at highest settings. Geez man why a Fanboi like yourself have to do this and lie? Do you think you will convince people like that?
I dont know if DF have better graphic i will judge it if i can play the game myself.
its probably on par with lotro online, maybe no quite as good. as for aoc well when i played aoc the graphics were great so im pretty sure aoc beats darkfall hands down
Agreed, the italian guys just in my book proved they are full of or on the take.
There is a thread opened on Darkfall main website where the Italian guys describe Darkfall graphics from playing the game and it seems they is just blown away by it. They inform us that Darkfall have the so far best graphic seen in a MMORPG game so far. Better then Lotro and Age of Conan. Just amazing. Its a matter of taste i guess but it seems that Darkfall really shine when you have it onscreen. Here is the thread and some poor google translation- http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=83029 Here is the quote from Mizaar where he points out what these Italians think of Darkfall onscreen graphics "Btw the most underlined aspect is that graphic kicks ass. They say it's the best they've seen in MMORPGS so far. So I guess all the people complaining about it are fooled by jpg quality "
Here is another quote from same thread about the overall preview thought on Dakfall from Navimel (page2) - "to be short the review on darkfall is extremely positive and confirm everything has been said on the beta report " Seems we have a winner here. Darkfall deliver and the larger companies games Warhammer and Age of Conan failed. Nice to see we might have a rebirth of good MMORPG games.
You know I wasn't gonna question the honesty / trustworthyness of the 2 guys Tasos's hand picked to open beta the game till this. Really you have to be F*cking kidding me. They are completely shoveling BS saying DF graphics look better then AoC in DX10. I mean really if this is the kind of objecticity we can expect from these guys then everything they say is very questionable / outright BS. At least its good to see even most of the Df fans here can see they are just blowing smoke now.
I honestly believe with this overbaord Hype/BS I think they did DF or at least its fans a major disservise. Whats gonna happen when players try fighting their 100x100 battles expecting AoC graphics and find out they been lied too? Yes theres gonna be alot of disappointed unhappy players griping when DF finally arrives (assuming its not put off another 3-4 years to try and bring it up to thier present hype level)
Sad thing is most Df fans seemed ok with the graphics not being cutting edge as long as the game was good, but Aventurine had to resort to what is obviously BS hype, just makes one wonder what other of their promises are now BS hype as well.
The graphics are not going to be the make or break for DarkFall. That's fine if some think they are the best graphics to date out there in any MMO. Graphics are going to be subjective, so to each their own.
I say let the graphics speak for themselves. We judge the graphics of other MMOs by their screenshots... right? The screenshots of DarkFall speak well enough for what we should expect to see when it releases. Some think they are the best, some think they are fine, some think they are below average... all are to be expected.
I just find it very tacky when posters try to deliberately lie and deceive what the graphics are for other MMOs... as if we can't verify them from other sources I guess. Let the screenshots of DarkFall speak for themselves, just like any other MMO.
Both Lotr online and Aoc have better graphics even if you compare those recently released screens of DF, and those screens do neither LOTR or AOC any justice.
Someone actually said Darkfall graphics are better than AoC or Lotro? The graphics are not pathetic. It's the animations that are. But the graphics aren't even EQ2 quality.
I've played eq2 for the last 3 years, and these Darkfall screenshots blow me away. Eq2 doesn't have fog. Eq2's rain's a joke. Eq2's night's nothing unless it happens to be raining, then your whole screen just gets a grey-wash.
These 25 new darkfall screenshots are fucking killer.
Even if some one has played it they can't tell you that they have. Again. Don't even bother trying to say that it looks better than AoC or Lotro because you'll be dissapointed. Again. It looks great but not better.
Um except for the people who have played it and are allowed to tell us....
Come come now can you say BS hype? I'm sure even you can agree DF won't have 100x100 battles with graphics better then AoC. Not saying AoC has 100x100 battles but its graphics are better. Actaully I'd like to know what super computer these guys are playing with that they can have 100x100 battles with the graphics turned up so high they surpass Lotro/AoC's.
Such posts from the hand picked italian guys iof anything prove any doubters opinions that they just aren't honest/objective.
Wtf are u people smoking...... Both Lotr online and Aoc have better graphics even if you compare those recently released screens of DF, and those screens do neither LOTR or AOC any justice.
Wtf are u people smoking...... Both Lotr online and Aoc have better graphics even if you compare those recently released screens of DF, and those screens do neither LOTR or AOC any justice.
Heh... didn't you know those screens of LotRo and AoC were "in the highest setting".
We have all seen enough sreenshots of DarkFall, LoTRo, and AoC to have already made up our minds how the graphics will fare. DarkFall will most likely improve over time, just like the other MMOs have.
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Well everything have its time. Im also abit frustrated that i cant get even more info on game and enter the beta.
They started it on the 10:th and we will be able to play it hopefully all very soon. Few beta leaks is something i applaud.
I agree.
graphics without looking at lag: AoC decks the floor
graphics looking at lag: DFO decks the floor
overall: AoC
I mean DFO does not have a PATHETIC graphics system, the effects and textures REALLY good for an mmo, the only problem is (and its a gigantic problem) are animations, and particle effects (like fire) but these are forgivable b/c you don't see them as much as ANIMATIONS. I mean the animations are outright HORRIBLE.
IF the animations were good, then DFO would have a fighting chance in the category of "graphics without looking at lag" and would definately win "overall," but they don't. Conan has some amazing stuff, as of now the difference b/w Conan graphics and DF graphics is GIGANTIC... but Conan will lag the Sh1t out of your pc and has utter sh!t of gameplay, so DF is definately a better game (lol even in its forum form: forumfall) but I didn't want people to make fun of Conan on its one and only forte, its a really good looking game they spent a lot of time on that sh1t.
When I'm energetic I'm:
the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
When I'm at default I'm:
WHITE/BLUE
Lol according to this I'm bipolar :O
If you said Asheron's Call 2 this would be easy to ignore but AC1?
Try harder
Is this post a joke or are you fanboys really that blind? Ive seen all the recent videos(in high res) and screenshots from Darkfall and also play AOC, Darkfall comes no were close to having as nice graphics as AOC in ANY catagory whatsoever. To say otherwise is pure lunacy. Any idiot can look at the two and pick AOC if you say otherwise either your legally blind or must be paid by Adventurine. Im not saying Darkfall is a worse game as its not released yet that would be impossible to tell but no way does it compare in graphics to AOC.
lol i agree, me and some friends watched the 1005 in game video yesterday for DF in high res and OMG we couldnt watch it all through the laughter.
most of us have played mmos for years and alot of mmos at that and DF looks like it should have been released 6 years ago not been being made for 6 years. i dont think its really comparable to any new mmo or recent mmo it seems to lack alot of animatings, character differences, skill animation and overall gfx seem very outdated. and well people will moan about this post i dont care. have you guys even seen Aventurine SA's website? it all seems very low budget. i hope that the people who are REALLY waiting for this game are not expecting too much.
maybe it will prove me wrong, but watching the recent videos has put me and many people off this game.
The environments for Darkfall look pretty good, however, the character models are not something to write home about.
My thoughts exactly.
Mmmh, really.
Characters.
Lotro : click
AoC : click
DFO : click
Environments.
LOTRO: another click
AoC : another click
DFO : and another click
Now, the screenshots of AoC and LOTRO are in the highest settings.
The screenshots of DFO are from the beta, and on ''default'' settings. So lets say if you have low - medium - high settings these are on medium, MEDIUM! And still the art style is nicer. ( imo )
We might even have a ''ultra high'' setting but I doubt it.
The world of DFO is probably bigger then LOTRO + AoC , ( not sure ) one of the beta quotes : “I walked from Chopping Necks (westernmost Ork starter town) to the coast to the east over 2 or 3 hours and NOT ONCE was I bored with repetitive landscape. There is almost always a settlement of goblins, freaky bird-men, hivekin, or something going on, and it's on all sides of you. I swam to an island off the coast, then to a second island. In total, the trip took about 4-5 hours one-way. I explored what looked like ~3% of the total map. Do the math! The world is gigantic!”
lets say... 2.5 hours + 4.5 hours = 7 hours.
3% of the map in 7 hours. that's fucking huge. and everything in the world is handcrafted.
AND the developer team is much smaller then other companies, stop bulshitting about the 8 year development shit, because they had to start over building the game again.
Conclusion : DFO pwns > all
lol nice fix. I love watching them still try and act like they have a valid arguement.
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Mmmh, really.
Characters.
Lotro : click
AoC : click
DFO : click
Environments.
LOTRO: another click
AoC : another click
DFO : and another click
Now, the screenshots of AoC and LOTRO are in the highest settings.
The screenshots of DFO are from the beta, and on ''default'' settings. So lets say if you have low - medium - high settings these are on medium, MEDIUM! And still the art style is nicer. ( imo )
We might even have a ''ultra high'' setting but I doubt it.
The world of DFO is probably bigger then LOTRO + AoC , ( not sure ) one of the beta quotes : “I walked from Chopping Necks (westernmost Ork starter town) to the coast to the east over 2 or 3 hours and NOT ONCE was I bored with repetitive landscape. There is almost always a settlement of goblins, freaky bird-men, hivekin, or something going on, and it's on all sides of you. I swam to an island off the coast, then to a second island. In total, the trip took about 4-5 hours one-way. I explored what looked like ~3% of the total map. Do the math! The world is gigantic!”
lets say... 2.5 hours + 4.5 hours = 7 hours.
3% of the map in 7 hours. that's fucking huge. and everything in the world is handcrafted.
AND the developer team is much smaller then other companies, stop bulshitting about the 8 year development shit, because they had to start over building the game again.
Conclusion : DFO pwns > all
Going to have to call BS on the high-lighted portion above.
Those pics above of the LoTRo character are barely at lowest setting maybe. Here's a couple links that might give a different perspective... a bit of a difference.
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img217.imageshack.us/img217/4013/screenshot00011hw8.jpg
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a628.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/42/l_fa0e83bc07aca7ae7dcdae0ef5ddd34b.jpg
www.imagecoast.com/images/simba107/screenshot00033.jpg
www.massively.com/photos/one-shots/759942/full/
Now here are some of AoC characters. Again... quite a bit of difference for the "highest settings" that the OP says.
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www.computerandvideogames.com/viewer.php
www.massively.com/photos/one-shots/914850/full
It's not that hard to tell the truth about games. If you like one better than another, it's not a big deal to say so. There is really no need to lie about them though.
Darkfall graphics are mediocre at best
Mmmh, really.
Characters.
Lotro : click
AoC : click
DFO : click
Environments.
LOTRO: another click
AoC : another click
DFO : and another click
Now, the screenshots of AoC and LOTRO are in the highest settings.
The screenshots of DFO are from the beta, and on ''default'' settings. So lets say if you have low - medium - high settings these are on medium, MEDIUM! And still the art style is nicer. ( imo )
We might even have a ''ultra high'' setting but I doubt it.
The world of DFO is probably bigger then LOTRO + AoC , ( not sure ) one of the beta quotes : “I walked from Chopping Necks (westernmost Ork starter town) to the coast to the east over 2 or 3 hours and NOT ONCE was I bored with repetitive landscape. There is almost always a settlement of goblins, freaky bird-men, hivekin, or something going on, and it's on all sides of you. I swam to an island off the coast, then to a second island. In total, the trip took about 4-5 hours one-way. I explored what looked like ~3% of the total map. Do the math! The world is gigantic!”
lets say... 2.5 hours + 4.5 hours = 7 hours.
3% of the map in 7 hours. that's fucking huge. and everything in the world is handcrafted.
AND the developer team is much smaller then other companies, stop bulshitting about the 8 year development shit, because they had to start over building the game again.
Conclusion : DFO pwns > all
Going to have to call BS on the high-lighted portion above.
Those pics above of the LoTRo character are barely at lowest setting maybe. Here's a couple links that might give a different perspective... a bit of a difference.
img256.imageshack.us/img256/6923/screenshot00012ng9.jpg
img217.imageshack.us/img217/4013/screenshot00011hw8.jpg
i73.photobucket.com/albums/i219/LoTekGhost/ScreenShot00214.jpg
a628.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/42/l_fa0e83bc07aca7ae7dcdae0ef5ddd34b.jpg
www.imagecoast.com/images/simba107/screenshot00033.jpg
www.massively.com/photos/one-shots/759942/full/
Now here are some of AoC characters. Again... quite a bit of difference for the "highest settings" that the OP says.
mnetcs.com/thumb/storage/b4781494.PNG
bp2.blogger.com/_xyLI9dJj3lw/SHrfm-o7IdI/AAAAAAAAAU4/1hWjF_5R2wM/s1600-h/Sedjet_picture803.png
www.computerandvideogames.com/viewer.php
www.massively.com/photos/one-shots/914850/full
It's not that hard to tell the truth about games. If you like one better than another, it's not a big deal to say so. There is really no need to lie about them though.
Yeah AoC did a good job with the char models, I just wish there enviroments didn't look so bad. I mean with the ammount of gameplay that was sacrificed for the graphics you'd imagine that AoC would have steller char models and enviroments. DFO's enviroments are beautiful in comparison, there char models aren't the greatest though. LoTRO is ok it fails in comparison graphics wise to both but beats AoC gameplay wise, the reason I say it beats AoC gameplay wise is because AoC is like a sandbox, themepark hybrid that just couldn't get either aspect right. To linear for a decent sandbox and to open for a decent themepark, bad enviroments but very good char models. DFO > LoTRO gameplay and graphics wise though.
FYP
Now in MY opinion...Darkfall graphics are only beaten by AoC in the fantasy mmo genre. The animations need work. The environments however I feel beat anything out there in the genre.
Also, in the opinions of a lot of people playing the game, and the people who wrote the review after playing it today (depending on time zone) also feel that it is the best in the industry right now.
Opinions are fun. And it seems like a lot of opinions of people actually playing the game seem to be that the graphics are way above industry standards of games like WAR, WoW, LOTRO etc on the market right now.
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Graphics are subjective; thus everyone is right and wrong.
Couldn't agree more.
But there are exceptions. When someone says something like DF graphics are the same as eq1 or 1990s wolfenstein or ac1 then it becomes more clear that the opinions are just a smoke screen to give excuses for trolling.
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Mmmh, really.
Characters.
Lotro : click
AoC : click
DFO : click
Environments.
LOTRO: another click
AoC : another click
DFO : and another click
Now, the screenshots of AoC and LOTRO are in the highest settings.
The screenshots of DFO are from the beta, and on ''default'' settings. So lets say if you have low - medium - high settings these are on medium, MEDIUM! And still the art style is nicer. ( imo )
We might even have a ''ultra high'' setting but I doubt it.
The world of DFO is probably bigger then LOTRO + AoC , ( not sure ) one of the beta quotes : “I walked from Chopping Necks (westernmost Ork starter town) to the coast to the east over 2 or 3 hours and NOT ONCE was I bored with repetitive landscape. There is almost always a settlement of goblins, freaky bird-men, hivekin, or something going on, and it's on all sides of you. I swam to an island off the coast, then to a second island. In total, the trip took about 4-5 hours one-way. I explored what looked like ~3% of the total map. Do the math! The world is gigantic!”
lets say... 2.5 hours + 4.5 hours = 7 hours.
3% of the map in 7 hours. that's fucking huge. and everything in the world is handcrafted.
AND the developer team is much smaller then other companies, stop bulshitting about the 8 year development shit, because they had to start over building the game again.
Conclusion : DFO pwns > all
Going to have to call BS on the high-lighted portion above.
Those pics above of the LoTRo character are barely at lowest setting maybe. Here's a couple links that might give a different perspective... a bit of a difference.
img256.imageshack.us/img256/6923/screenshot00012ng9.jpg
img217.imageshack.us/img217/4013/screenshot00011hw8.jpg
i73.photobucket.com/albums/i219/LoTekGhost/ScreenShot00214.jpg
a628.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/42/l_fa0e83bc07aca7ae7dcdae0ef5ddd34b.jpg
www.imagecoast.com/images/simba107/screenshot00033.jpg
www.massively.com/photos/one-shots/759942/full/
Now here are some of AoC characters. Again... quite a bit of difference for the "highest settings" that the OP says.
mnetcs.com/thumb/storage/b4781494.PNG
bp2.blogger.com/_xyLI9dJj3lw/SHrfm-o7IdI/AAAAAAAAAU4/1hWjF_5R2wM/s1600-h/Sedjet_picture803.png
www.computerandvideogames.com/viewer.php
www.massively.com/photos/one-shots/914850/full
It's not that hard to tell the truth about games. If you like one better than another, it's not a big deal to say so. There is really no need to lie about them though.
Yeah AoC did a good job with the char models, I just wish there enviroments didn't look so bad. I mean with the ammount of gameplay that was sacrificed for the graphics you'd imagine that AoC would have steller char models and enviroments. DFO's enviroments are beautiful in comparison, there char models aren't the greatest though. LoTRO is ok it fails in comparison graphics wise to both but beats AoC gameplay wise, the reason I say it beats AoC gameplay wise is because AoC is like a sandbox, themepark hybrid that just couldn't get either aspect right. To linear for a decent sandbox and to open for a decent themepark, bad enviroments but very good char models. DFO > LoTRO gameplay and graphics wise though.
Yeah, graphics are going to be very subjective for every person.
I would have had no beef with Master25 saying he THINKS the graphics for DF are better than LoTRo and AoC. No problem there, that's his opinion.
It's when he posts screenshots for LoTRo and AoC, and then says they are "in the highest setting"; when anyone who is honest at all can clearly see that they are not. That's when it's a problem.
Just take the one screenshot of the character he posted for LoTRo... "in the highest setting". Just from the shoes alone it's very obvious that the texture setting is at one of, if not the lowest possible setting.
It's not a big deal to like another game over another... just be honest about it.
You know I wasn't gonna question the honesty / trustworthyness of the 2 guys Tasos's hand picked to open beta the game till this. Really you have to be F*cking kidding me. They are completely shoveling BS saying DF graphics look better then AoC in DX10. I mean really if this is the kind of objecticity we can expect from these guys then everything they say is very questionable / outright BS. At least its good to see even most of the Df fans here can see they are just blowing smoke now.
I honestly believe with this overbaord Hype/BS I think they did DF or at least its fans a major disservise. Whats gonna happen when players try fighting their 100x100 battles expecting AoC graphics and find out they been lied too? Yes theres gonna be alot of disappointed unhappy players griping when DF finally arrives (assuming its not put off another 3-4 years to try and bring it up to thier present hype level)
Sad thing is most Df fans seemed ok with the graphics not being cutting edge as long as the game was good, but Aventurine had to resort to what is obviously BS hype, just makes one wonder what other of their promises are now BS hype as well.
Mmmh, really.
Characters.
Lotro : click
AoC : click
DFO : click
Environments.
LOTRO: another click
AoC : another click
DFO : and another click
Now, the screenshots of AoC and LOTRO are in the highest settings.
The screenshots of DFO are from the beta, and on ''default'' settings. So lets say if you have low - medium - high settings these are on medium, MEDIUM! And still the art style is nicer. ( imo )
We might even have a ''ultra high'' setting but I doubt it.
The world of DFO is probably bigger then LOTRO + AoC , ( not sure ) one of the beta quotes : “I walked from Chopping Necks (westernmost Ork starter town) to the coast to the east over 2 or 3 hours and NOT ONCE was I bored with repetitive landscape. There is almost always a settlement of goblins, freaky bird-men, hivekin, or something going on, and it's on all sides of you. I swam to an island off the coast, then to a second island. In total, the trip took about 4-5 hours one-way. I explored what looked like ~3% of the total map. Do the math! The world is gigantic!”
lets say... 2.5 hours + 4.5 hours = 7 hours.
3% of the map in 7 hours. that's fucking huge. and everything in the world is handcrafted.
AND the developer team is much smaller then other companies, stop bulshitting about the 8 year development shit, because they had to start over building the game again.
Conclusion : DFO pwns > all
HAHAH
you just lose all credibility for me. You put some low setting screen of LOTRO and AOC and pretend this is at highest settings. Geez man why a Fanboi like yourself have to do this and lie? Do you think you will convince people like that?
I dont know if DF have better graphic i will judge it if i can play the game myself.
Agreed, the italian guys just in my book proved they are full of
or on the take.
You know I wasn't gonna question the honesty / trustworthyness of the 2 guys Tasos's hand picked to open beta the game till this. Really you have to be F*cking kidding me. They are completely shoveling BS saying DF graphics look better then AoC in DX10. I mean really if this is the kind of objecticity we can expect from these guys then everything they say is very questionable / outright BS. At least its good to see even most of the Df fans here can see they are just blowing smoke now.
I honestly believe with this overbaord Hype/BS I think they did DF or at least its fans a major disservise. Whats gonna happen when players try fighting their 100x100 battles expecting AoC graphics and find out they been lied too? Yes theres gonna be alot of disappointed unhappy players griping when DF finally arrives (assuming its not put off another 3-4 years to try and bring it up to thier present hype level)
Sad thing is most Df fans seemed ok with the graphics not being cutting edge as long as the game was good, but Aventurine had to resort to what is obviously BS hype, just makes one wonder what other of their promises are now BS hype as well.
The graphics are not going to be the make or break for DarkFall. That's fine if some think they are the best graphics to date out there in any MMO. Graphics are going to be subjective, so to each their own.
I say let the graphics speak for themselves. We judge the graphics of other MMOs by their screenshots... right? The screenshots of DarkFall speak well enough for what we should expect to see when it releases. Some think they are the best, some think they are fine, some think they are below average... all are to be expected.
I just find it very tacky when posters try to deliberately lie and deceive what the graphics are for other MMOs... as if we can't verify them from other sources I guess. Let the screenshots of DarkFall speak for themselves, just like any other MMO.
Wtf are u people smoking......
Both Lotr online and Aoc have better graphics even if you compare those recently released screens of DF, and those screens do neither LOTR or AOC any justice.
I've played eq2 for the last 3 years, and these Darkfall screenshots blow me away. Eq2 doesn't have fog. Eq2's rain's a joke. Eq2's night's nothing unless it happens to be raining, then your whole screen just gets a grey-wash.
These 25 new darkfall screenshots are fucking killer.
Um except for the people who have played it and are allowed to tell us....
Come come now can you say BS hype? I'm sure even you can agree DF won't have 100x100 battles with graphics better then AoC. Not saying AoC has 100x100 battles but its graphics are better. Actaully I'd like to know what super computer these guys are playing with that they can have 100x100 battles with the graphics turned up so high they surpass Lotro/AoC's.
Such posts from the hand picked italian guys iof anything prove any doubters opinions that they just aren't honest/objective.
In your eyes. Not in everyones.
Heh... didn't you know those screens of LotRo and AoC were "in the highest setting".
We have all seen enough sreenshots of DarkFall, LoTRo, and AoC to have already made up our minds how the graphics will fare. DarkFall will most likely improve over time, just like the other MMOs have.