So, I don't mean to be stupid...but explain this part:
"The European release date for Darkfall is January 22nd, 2009.
The game is not available for general download or purchase."
Does that mean the game won't be available for general download or purchase on Jan. 22nd or just that it's not available until Jan. 22nd? I guess I'll believe it when it happens, too.
I write things for the Examiner as the MMO Examiner.
forums.darkfallonline.com/announcement.php So, I don't mean to be stupid...but explain this part: "The European release date for Darkfall is January 22nd, 2009. The game is not available for general download or purchase."
Does that mean the game won't be available for general download or purchase on Jan. 22nd or just that it's not available until Jan. 22nd? I guess I'll believe it when it happens, too.
You seem me not a stupid one so i can help you and point out for you how you could read that quote...
Imagine a Q&A and imagine those letters in red be the questions
"
Q: When will DarkFall release ?
A : The European release date for Darkfall is January 22nd, 2009.
Q: Couldn't find a download link or a button to preorder . Where can i download or purchase the game ?
A: The game is not available for general download or purchase.
"
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I'm kinda confused too though - because they said that the Euro launch is Jan. 22, and the game is not available for DL or general purchase, yet "NA players are welcome to participate" (or something very close to that, sorry don't have time to find the exact quote).
So, what? NA players can play if they have a friend in Euro who wants to buy and mail them a copy of the game? As for my situation, I'm from NA, currently living in South Korea. So I'm tryna figure out exactly how I'm getting a copy of this game, and when.
I too am mystified by the ambiguous release plans for Darkfall.
It will apparently be released on Jan. 22nd in Europe only. They say NA players are welcome to participate, even though there's no digital distribution planned and there won't be physical copies in game stores Stateside?
This all seems highly suspicious to me. Making your game difficult for people to purchase seems like a terrible business plan, but I guess we'll see what happens comes Jan. 22.
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don't call it vaporware until it comes out. Its like shouting surprise if you were anne frank. Everyones just going to shoot you down. Including me, you dumb fuck.
don't call it vaporware until it comes out. Its like shouting surprise if you were anne frank. Everyones just going to shoot you down. Including me, you dumb fuck.
Uh, what the hell are you crackheads going on about? There will be a digital distribution for this game, that is sort of the entire point of allowing the NA players access to the EU servers. There isn't a pre-order purchace for the game because they feel such business models are unethical, and they've consistently stated their opposition to expecting customers to pay for a product that isn't even finished or available yet. They also have said they will allow an extensive free trial for everyone to use (no stupid buddy pass system) upon release, so nobody is expected to 'take a chance' with this game, and will have the opprotunity to know precisely what they are spending their money on.
What would you vapor trolls say if I told you I know with 100% certaintly that there are people currently playing beta as we type? For their sake and out of respect for Aventurine I'm not going to say anything more about that, but I'll enjoy coming back here to tease you idiots who had nothing better to do than pretend the whole game was some elaborate prank after it releases.
"Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come."
DnL released too and promised great and wonderful things also, I'll hold judgement on DF until it releases.
I want Darkfall to take away the horrible WoW taste MMORPGs got, but I also want to have Salma Hayek as my sexual friend.
--When you resubscribe to SWG, an 18 yearold Stripper finds Jesus, gives up stripping, and moves with a rolex reverend to Hawaii. --In MMORPG's l007 is the opiate of the masses. --The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence! --CCP could cut off an Eve player's fun bits, and that player would say that it was good CCP did that.
If you call it vaporware when it does come out then you will be tagged as a troll....
And if you call it vaporware when its not out, you will be tagged a troll anyway....
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product. The term implies unwarranted optimism, an as yet unannounced abandonment of a project, or sometimes even deception; that is, it may imply that the announcer knows that product development is in too early a stage to support responsible statements about its completion date, feature set, or even feasibility. However, most vaporware would not be considered a hoax since the makers have a genuine intention to create their product, even if it ultimately never materializes. Products with unspecified release dates or long development times that outwardly demonstrate regular, verifiable progress in production are not normally labelled vaporware.
Uh, what the hell are you crackheads going on about? There will be a digital distribution for this game, that is sort of the entire point of allowing the NA players access to the EU servers. There isn't a pre-order purchace for the game because they feel such business models are unethical, and they've consistently stated their opposition to expecting customers to pay for a product that isn't even finished or available yet. They also have said they will allow an extensive free trial for everyone to use (no stupid buddy pass system) upon release, so nobody is expected to 'take a chance' with this game, and will have the opprotunity to know precisely what they are spending their money on. What would you vapor trolls say if I told you I know with 100% certaintly that there are people currently playing beta as we type? For their sake and out of respect for Aventurine I'm not going to say anything more about that, but I'll enjoy coming back here to tease you idiots who had nothing better to do than pretend the whole game was some elaborate prank after it releases.
If you say you know 100% its being played right now...then i dont know you and have no reason to doubt you, so ill take your word for it.
of all the things posted on these forums all us 50 - 50s want to hear is things like that. yes people could lie, but so what? they know they are lying too so theres no point they would just be proving all the skeptics right. If honest people say it's being played then ill take thier word for it.
With my beleifs everyone starts out with respect..some gain more some lose it. i am no god and dont put myself on a pedestal, so no one ever has to earn respect to me.
I know one thing, the white border was launched at the main web site.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
I love this game,but... have any of you actually played it?NO? So how do you all know its ready for release? I don't think they even have the box designed yet, you can't even preorder it
They likely aren't doing pre orders, as pre orders are just a big market scam you've been buying into for years.
Also, plenty of people have played the game... in fact a great number of people.
First my apologies in advance if I'm necro'ing this thread. it is only alittle over a month old but I think it well shows The Fans reaction to the Jan 22nd DF launch date anouncement. If you take the time to read through the whole thing you see the "In your face trolls DF's coming out on the 22nd!"" No Pre-orders", etc etc etc hype that fans bought into, and now just alittle over 1 month later were proven incorrecrt. You'll notice many so call trolls in this thread, warned the game wasn't released yet. Had anyone stated then that DF would not even have a open beta going, and would be taking pre-orders come the 22nd. These same fans IMHO would have gone balistic.
While I hope i don't get banned for this. (and at the very least expect to be flamed) I do think its a interesting read considering the facts we currently have and sheds some light perhaps on the fans willingness to accept the Devs word at face value.
I love this game,but... have any of you actually played it?NO? So how do you all know its ready for release? I don't think they even have the box designed yet, you can't even preorder it
They likely aren't doing pre orders, as pre orders are just a big market scam you've been buying into for years.
Also, plenty of people have played the game... in fact a great number of people.
First my apologies in advance if I'm necro'ing this thread. it is only alittle over a month old but I think it well shows The Fans reaction to the Jan 22nd DF launch date anouncement. If you take the time to read through the whole thing you see the "In your face trolls DF's coming out on the 22nd!"" No Pre-orders", etc etc etc hype that fans bought into, and now just alittle over 1 month later were proven incorrecrt. You'll notice many so call trolls in this thread, warned the game wasn't released yet. Had anyone stated then that DF would not even have a open beta going, and would be taking pre-orders come the 22nd. These same fans IMHO would have gone balistic.
While I hope i don't get banned for this. (and at the very least expect to be flamed) I do think its a interesting read considering the facts we currently have and sheds some light perhaps on the fans willingness to accept the Devs word at face value.
Are there really and fans left though? The only one I can think of ist he gu ywho types lik ethis.
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forums.darkfallonline.com/announcement.php
So, I don't mean to be stupid...but explain this part:
"The European release date for Darkfall is January 22nd, 2009.
The game is not available for general download or purchase."
Does that mean the game won't be available for general download or purchase on Jan. 22nd or just that it's not available until Jan. 22nd? I guess I'll believe it when it happens, too.
I write things for the Examiner as the MMO Examiner.
You seem me not a stupid one so i can help you and point out for you how you could read that quote...
Imagine a Q&A and imagine those letters in red be the questions
"
Q: When will DarkFall release ?
A : The European release date for Darkfall is January 22nd, 2009.
Q: Couldn't find a download link or a button to preorder . Where can i download or purchase the game ?
A: The game is not available for general download or purchase.
"
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Is this the launch of the beta or the actual full game
I can't imagine a Box of DarkFall at my local Store. Sorry. I'm european and i won't see that DF anywhere, but I'll check it out at Jan, 22.
It is a question of fangs.
I'm kinda confused too though - because they said that the Euro launch is Jan. 22, and the game is not available for DL or general purchase, yet "NA players are welcome to participate" (or something very close to that, sorry don't have time to find the exact quote).
So, what? NA players can play if they have a friend in Euro who wants to buy and mail them a copy of the game? As for my situation, I'm from NA, currently living in South Korea. So I'm tryna figure out exactly how I'm getting a copy of this game, and when.
I've never seen a game, any game, so close to launch not offer any sort of pre-order on ANY of the major video game purcashing sites.
Oh well, watching the fan boys drool over this vaporware is very enjoyable.
I too am mystified by the ambiguous release plans for Darkfall.
It will apparently be released on Jan. 22nd in Europe only. They say NA players are welcome to participate, even though there's no digital distribution planned and there won't be physical copies in game stores Stateside?
This all seems highly suspicious to me. Making your game difficult for people to purchase seems like a terrible business plan, but I guess we'll see what happens comes Jan. 22.
Currently Playing: EVE Online
Retired From: UO, FFXI, AO, SWG, Ryzom, GW, WoW, WAR
don't call it vaporware until it comes out. Its like shouting surprise if you were anne frank. Everyones just going to shoot you down. Including me, you dumb fuck.
Holocast jokes are not funny, not even a bit.
Uh, what the hell are you crackheads going on about? There will be a digital distribution for this game, that is sort of the entire point of allowing the NA players access to the EU servers. There isn't a pre-order purchace for the game because they feel such business models are unethical, and they've consistently stated their opposition to expecting customers to pay for a product that isn't even finished or available yet. They also have said they will allow an extensive free trial for everyone to use (no stupid buddy pass system) upon release, so nobody is expected to 'take a chance' with this game, and will have the opprotunity to know precisely what they are spending their money on.
What would you vapor trolls say if I told you I know with 100% certaintly that there are people currently playing beta as we type? For their sake and out of respect for Aventurine I'm not going to say anything more about that, but I'll enjoy coming back here to tease you idiots who had nothing better to do than pretend the whole game was some elaborate prank after it releases.
"Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come."
-Matt Groening
How the hell does that work?
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The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
DnL released too and promised great and wonderful things also, I'll hold judgement on DF until it releases.
I want Darkfall to take away the horrible WoW taste MMORPGs got, but I also want to have Salma Hayek as my sexual friend.
--When you resubscribe to SWG, an 18 yearold Stripper finds Jesus, gives up stripping, and moves with a rolex reverend to Hawaii.
--In MMORPG's l007 is the opiate of the masses.
--The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
--CCP could cut off an Eve player's fun bits, and that player would say that it was good CCP did that.
im geting it.. 90% chance that its going to suck but still..
How the hell does that work?
I was wondering that, too! It made me giggle.
How the hell does that work?
I was wondering that, too! It made me giggle.
If you call it vaporware when it does come out then you will be tagged as a troll....
And if you call it vaporware when its not out, you will be tagged a troll anyway....
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product. The term implies unwarranted optimism, an as yet unannounced abandonment of a project, or sometimes even deception; that is, it may imply that the announcer knows that product development is in too early a stage to support responsible statements about its completion date, feature set, or even feasibility. However, most vaporware would not be considered a hoax since the makers have a genuine intention to create their product, even if it ultimately never materializes. Products with unspecified release dates or long development times that outwardly demonstrate regular, verifiable progress in production are not normally labelled vaporware.
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Vaporware
Main Entry:
va·por·ware Listen to the pronunciation of vaporware
Pronunciation:
?v?-p?r-?wer
Function:
noun
Date:
1984
: a computer-related product that has been widely advertised but has not and may never become available
There are a lot of things that make DF vaporware to people...
-Almerel
Hello my old friend.
How the hell does that work?
I was wondering that, too! It made me giggle.
If you call it vaporware when it does come out then you will be tagged as a troll....
And if you call it vaporware when its not out, you will be tagged a troll anyway....
If there is any game that deserved to get trolled right now, DF is definitely it..
Nothing will get released on the 22nd. If something ever get released anyway, it would be Dark and Light 10x worse.
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If you say you know 100% its being played right now...then i dont know you and have no reason to doubt you, so ill take your word for it.
of all the things posted on these forums all us 50 - 50s want to hear is things like that. yes people could lie, but so what? they know they are lying too so theres no point they would just be proving all the skeptics right. If honest people say it's being played then ill take thier word for it.
With my beleifs everyone starts out with respect..some gain more some lose it. i am no god and dont put myself on a pedestal, so no one ever has to earn respect to me.
I know one thing, the white border was launched at the main web site.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
They likely aren't doing pre orders, as pre orders are just a big market scam you've been buying into for years.
Also, plenty of people have played the game... in fact a great number of people.
First my apologies in advance if I'm necro'ing this thread. it is only alittle over a month old but I think it well shows The Fans reaction to the Jan 22nd DF launch date anouncement. If you take the time to read through the whole thing you see the "In your face trolls DF's coming out on the 22nd!"" No Pre-orders", etc etc etc hype that fans bought into, and now just alittle over 1 month later were proven incorrecrt. You'll notice many so call trolls in this thread, warned the game wasn't released yet. Had anyone stated then that DF would not even have a open beta going, and would be taking pre-orders come the 22nd. These same fans IMHO would have gone balistic.
While I hope i don't get banned for this. (and at the very least expect to be flamed) I do think its a interesting read considering the facts we currently have and sheds some light perhaps on the fans willingness to accept the Devs word at face value.
They likely aren't doing pre orders, as pre orders are just a big market scam you've been buying into for years.
Also, plenty of people have played the game... in fact a great number of people.
First my apologies in advance if I'm necro'ing this thread. it is only alittle over a month old but I think it well shows The Fans reaction to the Jan 22nd DF launch date anouncement. If you take the time to read through the whole thing you see the "In your face trolls DF's coming out on the 22nd!"" No Pre-orders", etc etc etc hype that fans bought into, and now just alittle over 1 month later were proven incorrecrt. You'll notice many so call trolls in this thread, warned the game wasn't released yet. Had anyone stated then that DF would not even have a open beta going, and would be taking pre-orders come the 22nd. These same fans IMHO would have gone balistic.
While I hope i don't get banned for this. (and at the very least expect to be flamed) I do think its a interesting read considering the facts we currently have and sheds some light perhaps on the fans willingness to accept the Devs word at face value.
Are there really and fans left though? The only one I can think of ist he gu ywho types lik ethis.