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World of Warcraft: Teen Arrested for WoW Suicide Threat

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  • boognish75boognish75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,540

    This kid needs a swift backhand, bet he never got a spankin in there whole life, my kids are 7 and know better than to joke about suicide especially to try to rob something, liberal fucktards saying spankings are bad, sometimes kids need a good old fashioned spanking otherwise they grow up to be spoiled little whiney self centered jerks who do shit like this dipshit did.

    playing eq2 and two worlds

  • AzrileAzrile Member Posts: 2,582
    Originally posted by teknician

    Originally posted by jmwiens


    What if he really was suicidal?  Would they still have arrested him instead of getting him help?  Threatening suicide should get you a trip to the hospital not jail.

     

    Because it said that he was not really suicidal; he told the police it was a joke.  Either way, attempting suicide is illegal and warrants arrest if you do not need immediate medical attention.  Then you will probably end up with some inpatient hospital time.



     

    If someone says they are going to kill their neighbor, and the police show up and they say " it was a joke" do you think the police are just going to walk away?

    The reason threatening suicide is a crime is because of false alarms.  If a credible person says they are going to commit suicide, you do not want a first responder (police/emt) not taking it seriously.  it's the same reason why pulling a fire alarm is a crime even if you never planned on starting a fire.  You don't want there to be so many false alarms that first responders stop showing up or get complacent.

    Also, just because he was 'arrested' does not mean he didn't get a psych evaluation.  They put you in handcuffs so you can't hurt yourself, they process you through the police station, but then they will call in a shrink to evaluate if the threat was real.  If the threat was real, more than likely the charges would be dropped and the kid would get help, if the kid was 'joking' then he'll probably be charged (ironic, no?).

    In any event, Blizzard did the right thing.  Not only from a humanistic standpoint, but also from a legal standpoint.  If they hadn't had responded, the parents would have sued them had they found out.

  • HricaHrica Member UncommonPosts: 1,129

    Good call Babysitter/GM!

    He/she did the right thing to call 911 for this kid.

    This game needs more babbysitters/GMs like this that sees taking care of it's children and not just their money is a good thing 

  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249


    Originally posted by Royou
    Originally posted by Hokie
    Originally posted by Royou
    Originally posted by skydragonren
    Originally posted by SunwolfNC While I agree with you skydragonren, and the world *is* over populated with idiots, don't forget that if someone does kill themelves and you're in their chatlog telling them 'stfu and /wrist already' than you'll probbly end up charged with something.
    You know how over letigious society is becoming these days...

    Very true, of course I think all those "Oh yeah!!! Well I will sue you!!!" type people. Should /wrist


     
    Well it has to be said that the two posters Skydragonren and SunwolfNC are fools, how old are you to children? you really need to grow up, it shows that you have no life experience, else you would not make such depraved comments, and take life so lightly, one mans rubbish is another mans gold. You are entitled to your opinions as I am and others are ours, but to say you laugh at others pain and miss-fortune shows the fibber and calibre of your characters, let me just say, that if you were a member of my family and I could see that you would end up as you are now, then I'd have drowned you at birth, you should both be ashamed of yourselves, people like you don't deserve to live and make me sick, and by your comments have shown everybody the cowards and bullies that you are, I laugh at you both and your sad life's.
    I am a true believer in karma, and what goes around comes around, I hope that if either of you ever find yourselves in a hard place, that the people around you show you compassion and kindness and not the scorn that you show others.
     
    This is even better than Skydragonrens post.
    hyp?o?crite
    1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose *actions belie stated beliefs.
    *actions or posted comments
    ROLF
    I  --->  to you.
     

     



     

     
    OMG a person that claims to know me, but in fact is talking out of the @ss, you don't know me and you will never know me, you know nothing of my life, what I do or have done, you are a fool, I pretend nothing, I have led a good life and have helped many people, there is nothing in my life that I would say that I am ashamed of, can you say the same? I doubt it very much, no you are a parasite and a low life, you sit on your ivory mountain claiming to be this all mighty all seeing second coming, when in fact you are the fool on the hill, in future keep comments about things that you know nothing of to yourself, now run along and go play with all your 9th grade friends.
     


    Dude, you just complained about their 'depraved' comments, then followed it up by saying that you would have drowned them at birth and that they 'don't desearve to live'. If you don't see the irony in that you are truly a self righteous hypocrite. Careful up on that high horse buddy, I would hate to see you fall and break something.

  • PelagatoPelagato Member UncommonPosts: 673

    Everyone will take this as a joke, until someone really hangs itself... and hangs it for real!

  • WicroWicro Member Posts: 12
    Originally posted by Royou

    Originally posted by Hokie

    Originally posted by Royou

    Originally posted by skydragonren

    Originally posted by SunwolfNC


    While I agree with you skydragonren, and the world *is* over populated with idiots, don't forget that if someone does kill themelves and you're in their chatlog telling them 'stfu and /wrist already' than you'll probbly end up charged with something.
    You know how over letigious society is becoming these days...



    Very true, of course I think all those "Oh yeah!!! Well I will sue you!!!" type people. Should /wrist



     

    Well it has to be said that the two posters Skydragonren and SunwolfNC are fools, how old are you to children? you really need to grow up, it shows that you have no life experience, else you would not make such depraved comments, and take life so lightly, one mans rubbish is another mans gold. You are entitled to your opinions as I am and others are ours, but to say you laugh at others pain and miss-fortune shows the fibber and calibre of your characters, let me just say, that if you were a member of my family and I could see that you would end up as you are now, then I'd have drowned you at birth, you should both be ashamed of yourselves, people like you don't deserve to live and make me sick, and by your comments have shown everybody the cowards and bullies that you are, I laugh at you both and your sad life's.

    I am a true believer in karma, and what goes around comes around, I hope that if either of you ever find yourselves in a hard place, that the people around you show you compassion and kindness and not the scorn that you show others.

     

    This is even better than Skydragonrens post.

    hyp⋅o⋅crite

    1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose *actions belie stated beliefs.

    *actions or posted comments

    ROLF

    I  --->  to you.

     



     

     



     

    OMG a person that claims to know me, but in fact is talking out of the @ss, you don't know me and you will never know me, you know nothing of my life, what I do or have done, you are a fool, I pretend nothing, I have led a good life and have helped many people, there is nothing in my life that I would say that I am ashamed of, can you say the same? I doubt it very much, no you are a parasite and a low life, you sit on your ivory mountain claiming to be this all mighty all seeing second coming, when in fact you are the fool on the hill, in future keep comments about things that you know nothing of to yourself, now run along and go play with all your 9th grade friends.

     



     

    You might not be ashamed of wanting people too 'drown people at birth' and calling people a 'parasite and a low life' but I certainly would. Can't you articulate your frustrations without resorting to such  baseness? And if you want people to treat your comments with slightly more respect try not to resort to such behaviour and  I'm sure it could illicit a more positive response.

    If 'kids' making flippiant comments, boil your blood so much you probably better not frequent the Internet(and especially this site!), TV or the outside in general.

    Regards

  • JadedfireJadedfire Member Posts: 44

    This is ridiculous. 

    It is really pothetic that a kid will go to such lengths to fake being sucidal. Especially for the purpose of trying to get something out of it. Honestly, I think that being arrested was for the best for this kid. But at the same time, it is ludicrous that the GMs have to play the role of "babysitters" or "guardians" of these kids today.

    Where are the parents and what the hell are they doing? They need to be spending more time with their kids, and perhaps making them give World of Warcraft a break for awhile and use that $15 a month they are paying towards something else better for their kids. Maybe then, situations such as this one, may be avoided through out the future.

  • RoyouRoyou Member UncommonPosts: 82
    Originally posted by xaldraxius


     

    Originally posted by Royou


    Originally posted by Hokie


    Originally posted by Royou


    Originally posted by skydragonren


    Originally posted by SunwolfNC
     
    While I agree with you skydragonren, and the world *is* over populated with idiots, don't forget that if someone does kill themelves and you're in their chatlog telling them 'stfu and /wrist already' than you'll probbly end up charged with something.

    You know how over letigious society is becoming these days...



     

    Very true, of course I think all those "Oh yeah!!! Well I will sue you!!!" type people. Should /wrist



     

     

    Well it has to be said that the two posters Skydragonren and SunwolfNC are fools, how old are you to children? you really need to grow up, it shows that you have no life experience, else you would not make such depraved comments, and take life so lightly, one mans rubbish is another mans gold. You are entitled to your opinions as I am and others are ours, but to say you laugh at others pain and miss-fortune shows the fibber and calibre of your characters, let me just say, that if you were a member of my family and I could see that you would end up as you are now, then I'd have drowned you at birth, you should both be ashamed of yourselves, people like you don't deserve to live and make me sick, and by your comments have shown everybody the cowards and bullies that you are, I laugh at you both and your sad life's.

    I am a true believer in karma, and what goes around comes around, I hope that if either of you ever find yourselves in a hard place, that the people around you show you compassion and kindness and not the scorn that you show others.

     

    This is even better than Skydragonrens post.

    hyp?o?crite

    1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose *actions belie stated beliefs.

    *actions or posted comments

    ROLF

    I  --->  to you.

     

     






     


     

     

    OMG a person that claims to know me, but in fact is talking out of the @ss, you don't know me and you will never know me, you know nothing of my life, what I do or have done, you are a fool, I pretend nothing, I have led a good life and have helped many people, there is nothing in my life that I would say that I am ashamed of, can you say the same? I doubt it very much, no you are a parasite and a low life, you sit on your ivory mountain claiming to be this all mighty all seeing second coming, when in fact you are the fool on the hill, in future keep comments about things that you know nothing of to yourself, now run along and go play with all your 9th grade friends.

     


     

    Dude, you just complained about their 'depraved' comments, then followed it up by saying that you would have drowned them at birth and that they 'don't desearve to live'. If you don't see the irony in that you are truly a self righteous hypocrite. Careful up on that high horse buddy, I would hate to see you fall and break something.

    Hmm now I'm going to hazard a guess here, you're not from the UK, otherwise you'd have understood the Irony of that comment, very similar to a comment I remember my mother saying to a younger brother of mine, many years ago, when a good slap never hurt anybody and you would not be charged with child abuse for administering it either. My brother had made some nasty comments about a disabled girl that lived in our street, and he was told by my mother that if she had known as we were going up, that he would grow up to be a spiteful and wilful as of the comments, then she would have slapped it out of him as a child, which is something that this 17 year old may have missed as a child, perhaps if he had been taught this lesson in life he would have not claimed what he did, but that is something we will never know.

    But give yourself a pat on the back for spotting it, it's good to see that it's not mainly just kids that read these boards,

     

    imageTake the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

    "The Virtues guide us when the path is dark, Sacrifice most of all, sometimes Sacrifice is the Greatest Weapon we have!

            That is a Cruel Truth" (Austen Andrews. Ultima The Technocrat War. 2002)
  • RoyouRoyou Member UncommonPosts: 82
    Originally posted by Wicro

    Originally posted by Royou

    Originally posted by Hokie

    Originally posted by Royou

    Originally posted by skydragonren

    Originally posted by SunwolfNC


    While I agree with you skydragonren, and the world *is* over populated with idiots, don't forget that if someone does kill themelves and you're in their chatlog telling them 'stfu and /wrist already' than you'll probbly end up charged with something.
    You know how over letigious society is becoming these days...



    Very true, of course I think all those "Oh yeah!!! Well I will sue you!!!" type people. Should /wrist



     

    Well it has to be said that the two posters Skydragonren and SunwolfNC are fools, how old are you to children? you really need to grow up, it shows that you have no life experience, else you would not make such depraved comments, and take life so lightly, one mans rubbish is another mans gold. You are entitled to your opinions as I am and others are ours, but to say you laugh at others pain and miss-fortune shows the fibber and calibre of your characters, let me just say, that if you were a member of my family and I could see that you would end up as you are now, then I'd have drowned you at birth, you should both be ashamed of yourselves, people like you don't deserve to live and make me sick, and by your comments have shown everybody the cowards and bullies that you are, I laugh at you both and your sad life's.

    I am a true believer in karma, and what goes around comes around, I hope that if either of you ever find yourselves in a hard place, that the people around you show you compassion and kindness and not the scorn that you show others.

     

    This is even better than Skydragonrens post.

    hyp⋅o⋅crite

    1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose *actions belie stated beliefs.

    *actions or posted comments

    ROLF

    I  --->  to you.

     



     

     



     

    OMG a person that claims to know me, but in fact is talking out of the @ss, you don't know me and you will never know me, you know nothing of my life, what I do or have done, you are a fool, I pretend nothing, I have led a good life and have helped many people, there is nothing in my life that I would say that I am ashamed of, can you say the same? I doubt it very much, no you are a parasite and a low life, you sit on your ivory mountain claiming to be this all mighty all seeing second coming, when in fact you are the fool on the hill, in future keep comments about things that you know nothing of to yourself, now run along and go play with all your 9th grade friends.

     



     

    You might not be ashamed of wanting people too 'drown people at birth' and calling people a 'parasite and a low life' but I certainly would. Can't you articulate your frustrations without resorting to such  baseness? And if you want people to treat your comments with slightly more respect try not to resort to such behaviour and  I'm sure it could illicit a more positive response.

    If 'kids' making flippiant comments, boil your blood so much you probably better not frequent the Internet(and especially this site!), TV or the outside in general.

    Regards

    Thank you for your comments and your sage advice, I will endeavour to follow your words, I am humbled to have been taught this lesson by such a paragon of virtue, all hail the mighty Wicro. I am not worthy .

     

    imageTake the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

    "The Virtues guide us when the path is dark, Sacrifice most of all, sometimes Sacrifice is the Greatest Weapon we have!

            That is a Cruel Truth" (Austen Andrews. Ultima The Technocrat War. 2002)
  • AlienShirtAlienShirt Member UncommonPosts: 621

    I think his parents need to role-play that all his WoW characters committed a mass suicide and they should delete each of them for good.

  • WicroWicro Member Posts: 12
    Originally posted by Royou

    Originally posted by Wicro

    Originally posted by Royou

    Originally posted by Hokie

    Originally posted by Royou

    Originally posted by skydragonren

    Originally posted by SunwolfNC


    While I agree with you skydragonren, and the world *is* over populated with idiots, don't forget that if someone does kill themelves and you're in their chatlog telling them 'stfu and /wrist already' than you'll probbly end up charged with something.
    You know how over letigious society is becoming these days...



    Very true, of course I think all those "Oh yeah!!! Well I will sue you!!!" type people. Should /wrist



     

    Well it has to be said that the two posters Skydragonren and SunwolfNC are fools, how old are you to children? you really need to grow up, it shows that you have no life experience, else you would not make such depraved comments, and take life so lightly, one mans rubbish is another mans gold. You are entitled to your opinions as I am and others are ours, but to say you laugh at others pain and miss-fortune shows the fibber and calibre of your characters, let me just say, that if you were a member of my family and I could see that you would end up as you are now, then I'd have drowned you at birth, you should both be ashamed of yourselves, people like you don't deserve to live and make me sick, and by your comments have shown everybody the cowards and bullies that you are, I laugh at you both and your sad life's.

    I am a true believer in karma, and what goes around comes around, I hope that if either of you ever find yourselves in a hard place, that the people around you show you compassion and kindness and not the scorn that you show others.

     

    This is even better than Skydragonrens post.

    hyp⋅o⋅crite

    1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose *actions belie stated beliefs.

    *actions or posted comments

    ROLF

    I  --->  to you.

     



     

     



     

    OMG a person that claims to know me, but in fact is talking out of the @ss, you don't know me and you will never know me, you know nothing of my life, what I do or have done, you are a fool, I pretend nothing, I have led a good life and have helped many people, there is nothing in my life that I would say that I am ashamed of, can you say the same? I doubt it very much, no you are a parasite and a low life, you sit on your ivory mountain claiming to be this all mighty all seeing second coming, when in fact you are the fool on the hill, in future keep comments about things that you know nothing of to yourself, now run along and go play with all your 9th grade friends.

     



     

    You might not be ashamed of wanting people too 'drown people at birth' and calling people a 'parasite and a low life' but I certainly would. Can't you articulate your frustrations without resorting to such  baseness? And if you want people to treat your comments with slightly more respect try not to resort to such behaviour and  I'm sure it could illicit a more positive response.

    If 'kids' making flippiant comments, boil your blood so much you probably better not frequent the Internet(and especially this site!), TV or the outside in general.

    Regards

    Thank you for your comments and your sage advice, I will endeavour to follow your words, I am humbled to have been taught this lesson by such a paragon of virtue, all hail the mighty Wicro. I am not worthy .

     

    You misinterpreted  why I posted, I never set myself up as a paragon of virtue. Far from it, I am no 'saint' and I never claimed to be . However, you sir did, in your statement that your have never done anything that you were ashamed of, I merely pointed out that this seems slightly a absurd boast when you wish to 'drown people at birth'. I would be ashamed of that statement, which was my point, if you disagree then I feel more sorry for you than the 'kids' you seem to hate.

    Regards

    Wicro

     

  • RoyouRoyou Member UncommonPosts: 82
    Originally posted by Wicro

    Originally posted by Royou

    Originally posted by Wicro

    Originally posted by Royou

    Originally posted by Hokie

    Originally posted by Royou

    Originally posted by skydragonren

    Originally posted by SunwolfNC


    While I agree with you skydragonren, and the world *is* over populated with idiots, don't forget that if someone does kill themelves and you're in their chatlog telling them 'stfu and /wrist already' than you'll probbly end up charged with something.
    You know how over letigious society is becoming these days...



    Very true, of course I think all those "Oh yeah!!! Well I will sue you!!!" type people. Should /wrist



     

    Well it has to be said that the two posters Skydragonren and SunwolfNC are fools, how old are you to children? you really need to grow up, it shows that you have no life experience, else you would not make such depraved comments, and take life so lightly, one mans rubbish is another mans gold. You are entitled to your opinions as I am and others are ours, but to say you laugh at others pain and miss-fortune shows the fibber and calibre of your characters, let me just say, that if you were a member of my family and I could see that you would end up as you are now, then I'd have drowned you at birth, you should both be ashamed of yourselves, people like you don't deserve to live and make me sick, and by your comments have shown everybody the cowards and bullies that you are, I laugh at you both and your sad life's.

    I am a true believer in karma, and what goes around comes around, I hope that if either of you ever find yourselves in a hard place, that the people around you show you compassion and kindness and not the scorn that you show others.

     

    This is even better than Skydragonrens post.

    hyp⋅o⋅crite

    1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose *actions belie stated beliefs.

    *actions or posted comments

    ROLF

    I  --->  to you.

     



     

     



     

    OMG a person that claims to know me, but in fact is talking out of the @ss, you don't know me and you will never know me, you know nothing of my life, what I do or have done, you are a fool, I pretend nothing, I have led a good life and have helped many people, there is nothing in my life that I would say that I am ashamed of, can you say the same? I doubt it very much, no you are a parasite and a low life, you sit on your ivory mountain claiming to be this all mighty all seeing second coming, when in fact you are the fool on the hill, in future keep comments about things that you know nothing of to yourself, now run along and go play with all your 9th grade friends.

     



     

    You might not be ashamed of wanting people too 'drown people at birth' and calling people a 'parasite and a low life' but I certainly would. Can't you articulate your frustrations without resorting to such  baseness? And if you want people to treat your comments with slightly more respect try not to resort to such behaviour and  I'm sure it could illicit a more positive response.

    If 'kids' making flippiant comments, boil your blood so much you probably better not frequent the Internet(and especially this site!), TV or the outside in general.

    Regards

    Thank you for your comments and your sage advice, I will endeavour to follow your words, I am humbled to have been taught this lesson by such a paragon of virtue, all hail the mighty Wicro. I am not worthy .

     

    You misinterpreted  why I posted, I never set myself up as a paragon of virtue. Far from it, I am no 'saint' and I never claimed to be . However, you sir did, in your statement that your have never done anything that you were ashamed of, I merely pointed out that this seems slightly a absurd boast when you wish to 'drown people at birth'. I would be ashamed of that statement, which was my point, if you disagree then I feel more sorry for you than the 'kids' you seem to hate.

    Regards

    Wicro

     



     

    Now I've read and re-read my post, and at no point do I claim to be a saint, so either I'm going blind or you're seeing what you want to see.

    Just to educate you dear boy, the term " I'd have drowned you at birth " is a figure of speech, and does not literally mean that I would have drowned them at birth, it basically means that they would have gotten a darn good spanking, and no not at birth, so it is you that have misinterpreted myself not visa versa, and again I say that I have never done anything that I am ashamed of, there is an old adage that I believe would be fitting here.

    " Sticks and stones my break my bones, but names will never hurt me "

    Now speaking of claiming to be a saint, I really would advise you to go back and read your overly holier than thou patronising post again, and see whom is claiming to be the saint, I'd try a few times if I were you, with any luck then you may get it, though I doubt that. (That's sarcasm old boy, you do know what that is don't you?)

     

    imageTake the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

    "The Virtues guide us when the path is dark, Sacrifice most of all, sometimes Sacrifice is the Greatest Weapon we have!

            That is a Cruel Truth" (Austen Andrews. Ultima The Technocrat War. 2002)
  • RoyouRoyou Member UncommonPosts: 82
    Originally posted by AlienShirt


    I think his parents need to role-play that all his WoW characters committed a mass suicide and they should delete each of them for good.



     

    LOL now that's a good idea, would teach him a very good lesson, and take the object of his obsession away from him, cos lets face it, to sink so low, he had to be obsessed with WOW.

     

    imageTake the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

    "The Virtues guide us when the path is dark, Sacrifice most of all, sometimes Sacrifice is the Greatest Weapon we have!

            That is a Cruel Truth" (Austen Andrews. Ultima The Technocrat War. 2002)
  • WicroWicro Member Posts: 12

    Thanks for the reply, Royou

     I suppose statements such as 'you don't deserve to live'  and 'i laugh at you and your sad life' were both misinterpreted by me, I obviously don't come from  a culture where these statements are  equal to 'a good spanking' please forgive my ignorance. (its certainly not how I would talk to my kids)

    Again I was merely pointing out that these kind of statements, in my opinion, seemed to be slightly over the top. If your going to be so indigent over another's post , then the use of approaite language would seem to be in order. I would not use this type of statements, therefore I questioned your statement of ' never being ashamed' that was all. As far as I'm aware I have not thrown metaphorical or otherwise 'stones' , however if you feel offended by someone pointing out your 'spanking' then I am truly sorry there was no malice intent ,merely  an observation.

    regards

     

  • RoyouRoyou Member UncommonPosts: 82
    Originally posted by Wicro


    Thanks for the reply, Royou
     I suppose statements such as 'you don't deserve to live'  and 'i laugh at you and your sad life' were both misinterpreted by me, I obviously don't come from  a culture where these statements are  equal to 'a good spanking' please forgive my ignorance. (its certainly not how I would talk to my kids)
    Again I was merely pointing out that these kind of statements, in my opinion, seemed to be slightly over the top. If your going to be so indigent over another's post , then the use of approaite language would seem to be in order. I would not use this type of statements, therefore I questioned your statement of ' never being ashamed' that was all. As far as I'm aware I have not thrown metaphorical or otherwise 'stones' , however if you feel offended by someone pointing out your 'spanking' then I am truly sorry there was no malice intent ,merely  an observation.
    regards
     



     

    Thank you for you Swift reply Wicro.

    We were talking about being drowned at birth not the others, but yes they are harsh words to use, but to be honest at times these are the only words that people like that will understand, they would have just brushed them off, thought of me with all the names under the sun, laughed and then moved on, as they say words are cheap.

    I could have worded it better, but don't and didn't see the point, I'm just sick of teens these days, whom draw pleasure from seeing others suffer, kids that think it is big and cleaver to humiliate and ridicule another to the point that they do go and take their own lives, it's happening more and more in the UK nowadays, and you have to stop and ask your self, where have we gone wrong? where is the compassion for others gone? I hear names like Freak, Emo, Mosher so on and so on, there was never this when I was in school, yes we had different groups, Punks, Mods, Skin heads and a few others, but none of what kids say and speak like today, in my day it was a good old fight and then you put your differences behind you, made friends and moved on, nowadays kids are more likely to get arrested or thrown out of school for fighting, then plot and more than likely stab or shoot the other.

    I just don't know where this world is heading and I find that worrying.

     

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  • WicroWicro Member Posts: 12
    Originally posted by Royou

    Originally posted by Wicro


    Thanks for the reply, Royou
     I suppose statements such as 'you don't deserve to live'  and 'i laugh at you and your sad life' were both misinterpreted by me, I obviously don't come from  a culture where these statements are  equal to 'a good spanking' please forgive my ignorance. (its certainly not how I would talk to my kids)
    Again I was merely pointing out that these kind of statements, in my opinion, seemed to be slightly over the top. If your going to be so indigent over another's post , then the use of approaite language would seem to be in order. I would not use this type of statements, therefore I questioned your statement of ' never being ashamed' that was all. As far as I'm aware I have not thrown metaphorical or otherwise 'stones' , however if you feel offended by someone pointing out your 'spanking' then I am truly sorry there was no malice intent ,merely  an observation.
    regards
     



     

    Thank you for you Swift reply Wicro.

    We were talking about being drowned at birth not the others, but yes they are harsh words to use, but to be honest at times these are the only words that people like that will understand, they would have just brushed them off, thought of me with all the names under the sun, laughed and then moved on, as they say words are cheap.

    I could have worded it better, but don't and didn't see the point, I'm just sick of teens these days, whom draw pleasure from seeing others suffer, kids that think it is big and cleaver to humiliate and ridicule another to the point that they do go and take their own lives, it's happening more and more in the UK nowadays, and you have to stop and ask your self, where have we gone wrong? where is the compassion for others gone? I hear names like Freak, Emo, Mosher so on and so on, there was never this when I was in school, yes we had different groups, Punks, Mods, Skin heads and a few others, but none of what kids say and speak like today, in my day it was a good old fight and then you put your differences behind you, made friends and moved on, nowadays kids are more likely to get arrested or thrown out of school for fighting, then plot and more than likely stab or shoot the other.

    I just don't know where this world is heading and I find that worrying.

     

    And thank you for a far more reasoned response Royou. Your concerns are truly noted, however I feel they may be slightly unjustified. Every generation has had similar concerns (At least with the invention of 'childhood' see the works of Areis for why this is problematic). The days of having a 'good old fight' are consigned to the past (and some would argue this a good thing,for the weaker in society), but still the vast majority of people in my experience are reasonably well adjusted individuals, don't be so quick to condemn on a very slight minority that is over-hyped in the media.

     

    Please don't take this the wrong way but  I feel a reasoned  response is a far better way to deal with something you feel is obnoxious or offensive if you are going to take a 'moral high ground' (what ever that is). The post you got so upset responded to was in my humble opinion, less offensive than your response (hence why i felt the need to intraject, which I would not normally). I realise this is subjective, but I think my main points are valid if you are truly offended.

    Regards with best wishes for the new year

    Wicro

     

  • KroggKrogg Member Posts: 480

    A mountain out of a molehill.

    What a non-story....

  • LiddokunLiddokun Member UncommonPosts: 1,665

    They should just shut down his wow account and introduce him to something called "real life".

  • nakumanakuma Member UncommonPosts: 1,310

    this kid made a stupid choice and he is paying for it. and rightfully so. and to suicide? i think its a selfish act, but i have no sympathy for anyone who commits suicide, i say let them, free up some air and resources for the rest of us who go on living our lives functionally.

    i think attempted suicide should only be punishable only if u don't go through with it, then you should be arrested and put in a rubber room. attempting suicide and not going through with it fully, is like crying wolf. waste everyone's time,  with cops/medics coming to help you. if you go through with it, they only need to tag and bag you.

     

    trust me, suicide is always an option lol. i call it thinning the herd.

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  • Relentless02Relentless02 Member UncommonPosts: 126
    Originally posted by nakuma


    this kid made a stupid choice and he is paying for it. and rightfully so. and to suicide? i think its a selfish act, but i have no sympathy for anyone who commits suicide, i say let them, free up some air and resources for the rest of us who go on living our lives functionally.
    i think attempted suicide should only be punishable only if u don't go through with it, then you should be arrested and put in a rubber room. attempting suicide and not going through with it fully, is like crying wolf. waste everyone's time,  with cops/medics coming to help you. if you go through with it, they only need to tag and bag you.
     
    trust me, suicide is always an option lol. i call it thinning the herd.

     

    So you would have no sympathy for a rape victim who wanted to commit suicide? I am getting the feeling like you never had to live with something that was hard to live with. Not saying that suicide is right, but you can at least have some fucking sympathy.

  • nakumanakuma Member UncommonPosts: 1,310
    Originally posted by Relentless02

    Originally posted by nakuma


    this kid made a stupid choice and he is paying for it. and rightfully so. and to suicide? i think its a selfish act, but i have no sympathy for anyone who commits suicide, i say let them, free up some air and resources for the rest of us who go on living our lives functionally.
    i think attempted suicide should only be punishable only if u don't go through with it, then you should be arrested and put in a rubber room. attempting suicide and not going through with it fully, is like crying wolf. waste everyone's time,  with cops/medics coming to help you. if you go through with it, they only need to tag and bag you.
     
    trust me, suicide is always an option lol. i call it thinning the herd.

     

    So you would have no sympathy for a rape victim who wanted to commit suicide? I am getting the feeling like you never had to live with something that was hard to live with. Not saying that suicide is right, but you can at least have some fucking sympathy.

    now ur just grasping at straws and brushing with  a wide stroke. i feel sorry for a rape victim, that much is true. but suicide, nope. sorry, call me heartless, i call myself a realist. SUICIDE=giving up. as far as living with something hard? ive lived with hardship, didnt have employment for over 5 months, so broke i had barely anything to eat. got evicted. but i dindt quit. i picked myself up, and kept going forward. now i got a good job.

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  • Relentless02Relentless02 Member UncommonPosts: 126
    Originally posted by nakuma

    Originally posted by Relentless02

    Originally posted by nakuma


    this kid made a stupid choice and he is paying for it. and rightfully so. and to suicide? i think its a selfish act, but i have no sympathy for anyone who commits suicide, i say let them, free up some air and resources for the rest of us who go on living our lives functionally.
    i think attempted suicide should only be punishable only if u don't go through with it, then you should be arrested and put in a rubber room. attempting suicide and not going through with it fully, is like crying wolf. waste everyone's time,  with cops/medics coming to help you. if you go through with it, they only need to tag and bag you.
     
    trust me, suicide is always an option lol. i call it thinning the herd.

     

    So you would have no sympathy for a rape victim who wanted to commit suicide? I am getting the feeling like you never had to live with something that was hard to live with. Not saying that suicide is right, but you can at least have some fucking sympathy.

    now ur just grasping at straws and brushing with  a wide stroke. i feel sorry for a rape victim, that much is true. but suicide, nope. sorry, call me heartless, i call myself a realist. SUICIDE=giving up. as far as living with something hard? ive lived with hardship, didnt have employment for over 5 months, so broke i had barely anything to eat. got evicted. but i dindt quit. i picked myself up, and kept going forward. now i got a good job.

     

    Well you have a good point there with the giving up part, but I would still have sympathy no matter what.

  • LiljnaLiljna Member UncommonPosts: 274
    Originally posted by nakuma

    Originally posted by Relentless02

    Originally posted by nakuma


    this kid made a stupid choice and he is paying for it. and rightfully so. and to suicide? i think its a selfish act, but i have no sympathy for anyone who commits suicide, i say let them, free up some air and resources for the rest of us who go on living our lives functionally.
    i think attempted suicide should only be punishable only if u don't go through with it, then you should be arrested and put in a rubber room. attempting suicide and not going through with it fully, is like crying wolf. waste everyone's time,  with cops/medics coming to help you. if you go through with it, they only need to tag and bag you.
     
    trust me, suicide is always an option lol. i call it thinning the herd.

     

    So you would have no sympathy for a rape victim who wanted to commit suicide? I am getting the feeling like you never had to live with something that was hard to live with. Not saying that suicide is right, but you can at least have some fucking sympathy.

    now ur just grasping at straws and brushing with  a wide stroke. i feel sorry for a rape victim, that much is true. but suicide, nope. sorry, call me heartless, i call myself a realist. SUICIDE=giving up. as far as living with something hard? ive lived with hardship, didnt have employment for over 5 months, so broke i had barely anything to eat. got evicted. but i dindt quit. i picked myself up, and kept going forward. now i got a good job.

    That's not really hardship, what you experienced. I don't think you have an idea what drives a person to commit suicide, I base that on what you call hardship above.

    But I doubt it would help to try and explain it, because I don't think you want to learn. It is always easier to simply be stuck with one way of thinking. You see, trying to understand other people and be sympathetic is the difficult thing to do. To just brush them off as giving up is the easy thing to do :P

     

     

    What the above poster described as hardship is a physical thing, something one can act on and do something about. That is easy, when we humans can act, we live. Problems we can act on and do something about are the ones we can live with.

    It's the problems we can't do anything about, those we can't act on, it's those that can sometimes drive people to commit suicide. That or mental illness like depression, bipolarity etc.

     

     

     

  • nakumanakuma Member UncommonPosts: 1,310

    either way you slice it, suicide is an act i have no sympathy for. alot of people commit suicide for stupid, selfish reasons. some yeah, could be attributed to mental illness, that I have no problems with, as they are not "wired" properly in the brain.

    but you would be surprised how many people commit suicide for selfish, retarded reasons, their bf or gf left them, they think everyone is against them, or people are conspiring to bring them down, or something so ridiculous you think, what is going on in their head that they are doing this? I feel if you cant seek help, or not willing to seek help, you know what the end result is going to be here is the razor, you got 5 minutes. alot of people balk suicide for attention. their way of crying out for help. or seeking attention "me me me" attitude. but in the end for me as far as im concerned its nothing more than a selfish act of quiting on life. I wont stop a person from commiting suicide.

    they have set on a path to take themselves out, its their final attempt at regaining control of their own problem by solving it for good. who am i to stop them? this who legality BS about oh they shouldnt be able to commit suicide? I say let them. I am going to live my life irregardless if they slit their wrists or not.

    and the BS  I went thru isnt hardship? how convenient.  but timmy, or sally going through emotional strife rebeling against the norm is?

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  • FlummoxedFlummoxed Member Posts: 591

    i make no apologies at all for being a heartless bastard when i say:

    Suicide = evolution in action, survival of the mentally Fit.

    Suicide is a naturally occurring phenomenon among humankind that rids the species of mentally defective people, the kind of people we want LESS of as a species.

    Normal, mentally strong healthy people (the kind we want MORE of as a species) don't commit suicide.

     

    edit: oh btw the reason Blizzard has such policies and did what it did was to cover it's ass financially so it wouldn't get SUED, not because it was so compassionate and concerned with the mental welfare of one of it's customers.

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