2 weeks 3 days till launch - no open beta - has not gone gold yet - almost no beta leaks to speak of - most features not exhibited, turned on in beta, or properly tested - no stress test done yet by players - no word on what happened to the mid december beta the odds are stacking up against this game fast.
geese maybe yous hould search darkfallleaks on google man you guys are in for a surprise
the mid december bet agot delayed when the release got delayed geese is that so ahrd ot firgure out
stress test WILL be done during open beta but sof ar even witht hem adding people there bene no stbaility issue only a few bugs that are minor and soem gameplayt weaking needed but 0 stability issues. cant oyu guysa open oyur minds alil and think hey maybe they actully did somethign right unlike this big name mmo companies pshh ><
Wer eyou durnk wehn yuo typde thsi as ist naerly impossbile to raed
Downtoearth, you have to admit that even if they have zero cash for advertising they can still do free advertising. They could do an open beta at the very least they could offer a beta key to Jon Wood and ask him to come to Aventurine, do a review and interview them after playing. It would cost them nothing and you could bet your life that Jon Wood would be moving faster than a Bishop from a brothel raid to get the story and post the video here. But Aventurine won't even do free advertising, why? Why wouldn't you advertise your product for free on this and every other MMO site and mag? I dare Tasos to post here and answer that, but he won't because there are only three answers, 1: "We are all mentally challenged" 2: "Darkfall will not release this month" 3: "Darkfall will release this month but it's so crap we don't want anyone to know"
there doing a press beta atm.
and
THERE WILL BE AN OPEN BETA BEFORE LAUNCH
THEY NEED TO STRESS TEST THE SERVERS TO SEE WHAT
THE SERVER CAP IS.
CAN YOU READ THIS
thanks
/facepalm
So they are doing a press beta, before they actually test the game with people? That is very smart, lets let the reviewers in before it is actually tested.
Btw can provide any proof of "there doing a press beta atm" or you just made that up?
It's posted on the MMORPG Italia site that early January includes press beta slots and coverage. As to how long before we see any articles? Who knows. You realise DF has been tested for some cosiderable time now, right? Therefore press comes after some extensive testing. The prrof is at the site. As long as you speak Italian. You could try running it through a translator I guess.
But good one on the nay saying.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims.
On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information.
And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
Actually his statement was it would FINISH in early December. They never gave a time-frame on when it would start.
But, it's been said over and over by downtoearth (nevermind that he's been wrong over and over)... that because they had to push back the Release of the "Feature Complete" and "Ready to Launch" game; that OPEN Beta has been pushed back as well.
With 16 days left until Release day... time will soon run out to come up with more reasons why there is no update. But I am sure that even if we hear nothing from Tasos by the 23rd, there will be a good excuse for it.
Who cares ... doesn't matter ... DF will be a game when it releases, until then it's guess work and a good topic for the forums.
I hope it releases and is a good solid game. If not then i guess it'll be a coaster along with the much hyped war and aoc.
After the last year of mmo releases I just can't get excited about a launch anymore, to many that did not live up to what was said. .... ..... Talk is cheap,,, show me the game.
Originally posted by downtoearth HOW ABOUT they do talk about it just in private not in the public. how do you think i confirm any public leaks LMAO
Haha.
Let's put it this way...the game has been in development for 8 years. So if 2000 people are currently beta testing it, do you honestly think that not even a single one of them would leak *something* to prove that the game is indeed there in a playable form and that it is near ready for release? Not a single one of those 2000 people will make some sort of mention about the 8 year-long debate topic? Those are either testers sent from up above or they don't exist.
LMAO. This post made me actually laugh, but it's so true.
I have been around in gaming for nearly 20 years by now and EVERY game (FPS, RTS, RPG, MMORPG, etc) that had a Beta with gamers as Testers had leaks!
Every single one of them! Period!
Just think about that for a moment, let it sink in and then react, instead of blind rage fanboy posting.
Let's face it. It's really strange and pretty ackward that there are hardly any leaks out there (you can google all you want... it's the same old crap videos and screens we have seen years ago already... being reposted over and over).
The fact that merely 2 weeks from so called launch they still haven't bothered to update their own friggin website!
Financial reports say that they spend well over 20 million euros on development of this game. So that gotta be earned back within a sertain timeframe.
Banks are pretty much unforgiving and impatient when it comes to payback of loans, not to mention when money comes from investors!
I am all for trying to launch small and build up from there. CCP did the same with EVE Online.
Downtoearth, you have to admit that even if they have zero cash for advertising they can still do free advertising. They could do an open beta at the very least they could offer a beta key to Jon Wood and ask him to come to Aventurine, do a review and interview them after playing. It would cost them nothing and you could bet your life that Jon Wood would be moving faster than a Bishop from a brothel raid to get the story and post the video here. But Aventurine won't even do free advertising, why? Why wouldn't you advertise your product for free on this and every other MMO site and mag? I dare Tasos to post here and answer that, but he won't because there are only three answers, 1: "We are all mentally challenged" 2: "Darkfall will not release this month" 3: "Darkfall will release this month but it's so crap we don't want anyone to know"
there doing a press beta atm.
and
THERE WILL BE AN OPEN BETA BEFORE LAUNCH
THEY NEED TO STRESS TEST THE SERVERS TO SEE WHAT
THE SERVER CAP IS.
CAN YOU READ THIS
thanks
/facepalm
So they are doing a press beta, before they actually test the game with people? That is very smart, lets let the reviewers in before it is actually tested.
Btw can provide any proof of "there doing a press beta atm" or you just made that up?
It's posted on the MMORPG Italia site that early January includes press beta slots and coverage. As to how long before we see any articles? Who knows. You realise DF has been tested for some cosiderable time now, right? Therefore press comes after some extensive testing. The prrof is at the site. As long as you speak Italian. You could try running it through a translator I guess.
But good one on the nay saying.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims.
On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information.
And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
If you had followed their cycle of releasing information in the last ~9 months, you'd know that prying information out of them is near on impossible. I understand the concept of proof as well as you do. I fail to see how a 3rd party site could have that infomation without being told. Can you suggest another way as to why they would say that?
Nothing to back it up apart from a 3rd party website for "proof". Does this mean anything I read on this site about other games being developed is not "proof"? For example, Mortal Online. I see you have a forum dedicated to it. How do I know it's really in alpha testing? See what I'm getting at? You asked for proof. Proof was provided, that didn't meet your stringent concept I guess. Feel free to disbelieve.
Granted, Tasos said there would be open beta in December. A good point to make. I guess you'd have to consult with him as to why it didn't eventuate.
Lastly, I'm not a blind fanboy. I merely check this site out once a week or so, see what's written and reply. I am a healthy skeptic. Doesn't mean I can't hope for the best though, does it.
You don't need to tell me about reading comprehension. I do well enough, thanks.
Originally posted by downtoearth HOW ABOUT they do talk about it just in private not in the public. how do you think i confirm any public leaks LMAO
Haha.
Let's put it this way...the game has been in development for 8 years. So if 2000 people are currently beta testing it, do you honestly think that not even a single one of them would leak *something* to prove that the game is indeed there in a playable form and that it is near ready for release? Not a single one of those 2000 people will make some sort of mention about the 8 year-long debate topic? Those are either testers sent from up above or they don't exist.
LMAO. This post made me actually laugh, but it's so true.
I have been around in gaming for nearly 20 years by now and EVERY game (FPS, RTS, RPG, MMORPG, etc) that had a Beta with gamers as Testers had leaks!
Every single one of them! Period!
Just think about that for a moment, let it sink in and then react, instead of blind rage fanboy posting.
Let's face it. It's really strange and pretty ackward that there are hardly any leaks out there (you can google all you want... it's the same old crap videos and screens we have seen years ago already... being reposted over and over).
The fact that merely 2 weeks from so called launch they still haven't bothered to update their own friggin website!
Financial reports say that they spend well over 20 million euros on development of this game. So that gotta be earned back within a sertain timeframe.
Banks are pretty much unforgiving and impatient when it comes to payback of loans, not to mention when money comes from investors!
I am all for trying to launch small and build up from there. CCP did the same with EVE Online.
But that is not the issue here.
Cheers
You are absolutely right I wouldnt have put it better myself, but dont worry in no time you will get the response "but DFO is different", people have convinced themselves that somehow DFO has broke the mold and its using some unseen undiscovered development and marketing techniques, its to such an extreme that I have read people saying that they dont care about making money.
What are Aventurine's plans for Customer Support? Who is providing Technical support? Who is providing In-game support? Will there be a trouble-ticket system?
I can't answer those, I have no information to give. Wish I could though!
Originally posted by downtoearth HOW ABOUT they do talk about it just in private not in the public. how do you think i confirm any public leaks LMAO
Haha.
Let's put it this way...the game has been in development for 8 years. So if 2000 people are currently beta testing it, do you honestly think that not even a single one of them would leak *something* to prove that the game is indeed there in a playable form and that it is near ready for release? Not a single one of those 2000 people will make some sort of mention about the 8 year-long debate topic? Those are either testers sent from up above or they don't exist.
LMAO. This post made me actually laugh, but it's so true.
I have been around in gaming for nearly 20 years by now and EVERY game (FPS, RTS, RPG, MMORPG, etc) that had a Beta with gamers as Testers had leaks!
Every single one of them! Period!
Just think about that for a moment, let it sink in and then react, instead of blind rage fanboy posting.
Let's face it. It's really strange and pretty ackward that there are hardly any leaks out there (you can google all you want... it's the same old crap videos and screens we have seen years ago already... being reposted over and over).
The fact that merely 2 weeks from so called launch they still haven't bothered to update their own friggin website!
Financial reports say that they spend well over 20 million euros on development of this game. So that gotta be earned back within a sertain timeframe.
Banks are pretty much unforgiving and impatient when it comes to payback of loans, not to mention when money comes from investors!
I am all for trying to launch small and build up from there. CCP did the same with EVE Online.
But that is not the issue here.
Cheers
You are absolutely right I wouldnt have put it better myself, but dont worry in no time you will get the response "but DFO is different", people have convinced themselves that somehow DFO has broke the mold and its using some unseen undiscovered development and marketing techniques, its to such an extreme that I have read people saying that they dont care about making money.
You'd have to think they were using 'blind fanboys' to test it or something! I know, I know, the horror of using people that love the idea and concept of Darkfall to test it.
Undiscovered development? You mean, there's something else than coding that makes games magically appear?
As for their marketing.. It sucks. Pure and simple. That my friend, is very 'different'.
Downtoearth, you have to admit that even if they have zero cash for advertising they can still do free advertising. They could do an open beta at the very least they could offer a beta key to Jon Wood and ask him to come to Aventurine, do a review and interview them after playing. It would cost them nothing and you could bet your life that Jon Wood would be moving faster than a Bishop from a brothel raid to get the story and post the video here. But Aventurine won't even do free advertising, why? Why wouldn't you advertise your product for free on this and every other MMO site and mag? I dare Tasos to post here and answer that, but he won't because there are only three answers, 1: "We are all mentally challenged" 2: "Darkfall will not release this month" 3: "Darkfall will release this month but it's so crap we don't want anyone to know"
there doing a press beta atm.
and
THERE WILL BE AN OPEN BETA BEFORE LAUNCH
THEY NEED TO STRESS TEST THE SERVERS TO SEE WHAT
THE SERVER CAP IS.
CAN YOU READ THIS
thanks
/facepalm
So they are doing a press beta, before they actually test the game with people? That is very smart, lets let the reviewers in before it is actually tested.
Btw can provide any proof of "there doing a press beta atm" or you just made that up?
It's posted on the MMORPG Italia site that early January includes press beta slots and coverage. As to how long before we see any articles? Who knows. You realise DF has been tested for some cosiderable time now, right? Therefore press comes after some extensive testing. The prrof is at the site. As long as you speak Italian. You could try running it through a translator I guess.
But good one on the nay saying.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims.
On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information.
And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
If you had followed their cycle of releasing information in the last ~9 months, you'd know that prying information out of them is near on impossible. I understand the concept of proof as well as you do. I fail to see how a 3rd party site could have that infomation without being told. Can you suggest another way as to why they would say that?
You missed my point again im not debating that they have said that there would be a press beta in the beginning of january, im debating the fact that downtoearth specifically said that there is a "press beta atm" that information is nowhere and he couldnt possibly know without some kind of proof that obviously doesnt exist.
Nothing to back it up apart from a 3rd party website for "proof". Does this mean anything I read on this site about other games being developed is not "proof"? For example, Mortal Online. I see you have a forum dedicated to it. How do I know it's really in alpha testing? See what I'm getting at? You asked for proof. Proof was provided, that didn't meet your stringent concept I guess. Feel free to disbelieve.
I understand your point but the analogy doesnt really fit in, downtoearth is not a representative of aventurine so how can he know that the press beta has started?
Granted, Tasos said there would be open beta in December. A good point to make. I guess you'd have to consult with him as to why it didn't eventuate.
Lastly, I'm not a blind fanboy. I merely check this site out once a week or so, see what's written and reply. I am a healthy skeptic. Doesn't mean I can't hope for the best though, does it.
There is nothing wrong with hoping for the best but labeling anyone that does not share the same opinion or questions you does not fit well in an open discussion.
You don't need to tell me about reading comprehension. I do well enough, thanks.
Downtoearth, you have to admit that even if they have zero cash for advertising they can still do free advertising. They could do an open beta at the very least they could offer a beta key to Jon Wood and ask him to come to Aventurine, do a review and interview them after playing. It would cost them nothing and you could bet your life that Jon Wood would be moving faster than a Bishop from a brothel raid to get the story and post the video here. But Aventurine won't even do free advertising, why? Why wouldn't you advertise your product for free on this and every other MMO site and mag? I dare Tasos to post here and answer that, but he won't because there are only three answers, 1: "We are all mentally challenged" 2: "Darkfall will not release this month" 3: "Darkfall will release this month but it's so crap we don't want anyone to know"
there doing a press beta atm.
and
THERE WILL BE AN OPEN BETA BEFORE LAUNCH
THEY NEED TO STRESS TEST THE SERVERS TO SEE WHAT
THE SERVER CAP IS.
CAN YOU READ THIS
thanks
/facepalm
So they are doing a press beta, before they actually test the game with people? That is very smart, lets let the reviewers in before it is actually tested.
Btw can provide any proof of "there doing a press beta atm" or you just made that up?
It's posted on the MMORPG Italia site that early January includes press beta slots and coverage. As to how long before we see any articles? Who knows. You realise DF has been tested for some cosiderable time now, right? Therefore press comes after some extensive testing. The prrof is at the site. As long as you speak Italian. You could try running it through a translator I guess.
But good one on the nay saying.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims.
On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information.
And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
Actually his statement was it would FINISH in early December. They never gave a time-frame on when it would start.
But, it's been said over and over by downtoearth (nevermind that he's been wrong over and over)... that because they had to push back the Release of the "Feature Complete" and "Ready to Launch" game; that OPEN Beta has been pushed back as well.
With 16 days left until Release day... time will soon run out to come up with more reasons why there is no update. But I am sure that even if we hear nothing from Tasos by the 23rd, there will be a good excuse for it.
I can't speak for downtoearth. I merely wanted to clear up some misconceptions, which you seem to believe don't have enough proof for you. I tried. Whoops!
You'd have to think they were using 'blind fanboys' to test it or something! I know, I know, the horror of using people that love the idea and concept of Darkfall to test it.
Undiscovered development? You mean, there's something else than coding that makes games magically appear?
As for their marketing.. It sucks. Pure and simple. That my friend, is very 'different'.
Ironically it's usually these so called 'blind fanboys' that leak most of the stuff on the internet.
They are the ones that usually want to show off and prove how good the game is and share it with everyone. Especially to silence their enemy (the so called trolls and haters) and show them they are wrong!
I know, I know, the horror a blind fanboy would do such a thing.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims. On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information. And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
If you had followed their cycle of releasing information in the last ~9 months, you'd know that prying information out of them is near on impossible. I understand the concept of proof as well as you do. I fail to see how a 3rd party site could have that infomation without being told. Can you suggest another way as to why they would say that?
You missed my point again im not debating that they have said that there would be a press beta in the beginning of january, im debating the fact that downtoearth specifically said that there is a "press beta atm" that information is nowhere and he couldnt possibly know without some kind of proof that obviously doesnt exist.
Nothing to back it up apart from a 3rd party website for "proof". Does this mean anything I read on this site about other games being developed is not "proof"? For example, Mortal Online. I see you have a forum dedicated to it. How do I know it's really in alpha testing? See what I'm getting at? You asked for proof. Proof was provided, that didn't meet your stringent concept I guess. Feel free to disbelieve.
I understand your point but the analogy doesnt really fit in, downtoearth is not a representative of aventurine so how can he know that the press beta has started?
Granted, Tasos said there would be open beta in December. A good point to make. I guess you'd have to consult with him as to why it didn't eventuate.
Lastly, I'm not a blind fanboy. I merely check this site out once a week or so, see what's written and reply. I am a healthy skeptic. Doesn't mean I can't hope for the best though, does it.
There is nothing wrong with hoping for the best but labeling anyone that does not share the same opinion or questions you does not fit well in an open discussion.
You don't need to tell me about reading comprehension. I do well enough, thanks.
I refer you to the 'blind fanboyism'. So I guess neither of us has open discussion potential. Even after complimenting you on the nay saying.
at 14 pages, doesn't everyone here think this thread is pointless to post in... i've read every post and find that everyone posting is debating the same argument over and over... read through them all and you'll see everything that has been argued is just repeated
Downtoearth, you have to admit that even if they have zero cash for advertising they can still do free advertising. They could do an open beta at the very least they could offer a beta key to Jon Wood and ask him to come to Aventurine, do a review and interview them after playing. It would cost them nothing and you could bet your life that Jon Wood would be moving faster than a Bishop from a brothel raid to get the story and post the video here. But Aventurine won't even do free advertising, why? Why wouldn't you advertise your product for free on this and every other MMO site and mag? I dare Tasos to post here and answer that, but he won't because there are only three answers, 1: "We are all mentally challenged" 2: "Darkfall will not release this month" 3: "Darkfall will release this month but it's so crap we don't want anyone to know"
there doing a press beta atm.
and
THERE WILL BE AN OPEN BETA BEFORE LAUNCH
THEY NEED TO STRESS TEST THE SERVERS TO SEE WHAT
THE SERVER CAP IS.
CAN YOU READ THIS
thanks
/facepalm
So they are doing a press beta, before they actually test the game with people? That is very smart, lets let the reviewers in before it is actually tested.
Btw can provide any proof of "there doing a press beta atm" or you just made that up?
It's posted on the MMORPG Italia site that early January includes press beta slots and coverage. As to how long before we see any articles? Who knows. You realise DF has been tested for some cosiderable time now, right? Therefore press comes after some extensive testing. The prrof is at the site. As long as you speak Italian. You could try running it through a translator I guess.
But good one on the nay saying.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims.
On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information.
And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
Actually his statement was it would FINISH in early December. They never gave a time-frame on when it would start.
But, it's been said over and over by downtoearth (nevermind that he's been wrong over and over)... that because they had to push back the Release of the "Feature Complete" and "Ready to Launch" game; that OPEN Beta has been pushed back as well.
With 16 days left until Release day... time will soon run out to come up with more reasons why there is no update. But I am sure that even if we hear nothing from Tasos by the 23rd, there will be a good excuse for it.
I can't speak for downtoearth. I merely wanted to clear up some misconceptions, which you seem to believe don't have enough proof for you. I tried. Whoops!
umm what are they accussing me of now?
o yea the game is feature complete but stuff is disabled because there doing q/a process on everything instead just turining everything on and then guessing what bug caused what . plus its a good way to get feedback on gameplay. when they pushed release back all that means is more time for polish.
i mean they can accuse me of what ever they want but when there wrong there wrong . i wll admit being wrong about when something is going to happen. because how am i suppose to know whats happening at aventurine. we dont even know the reason for delay. even tho i have a feeling i know why or close to it.
Voodoo I dunno about you, but when someone lies to me a few times the information given by them starts loosing credibility and requires more solid evidence for me to believe on it. And thats why not all of the information posted on MMORPG.com requires proof. But maybe you havent acquired this skill yet... common sense.
Voodoo I dunno about you, but when someone lies to me a few times the information given by them starts loosing credibility and requires more solid evidence for me to believe on it. And thats why not all of the information posted on MMORPG.com requires proof. But maybe you havent acquired this skill yet... common sense.
but what's the point of all this... none of us work for venturing, none of us are taso... i mean have you read all the posts? it's the same arguements rehashed over and over... nothing gets solved, and no one will ever know the truth on this subject matter no matter how many times people post..
makes now sense trying to get "solid evidence" from anyone here since this is not the Aventurine website...
May I suggest to everyone here that you should send emails to Aventurine instead of posting for answers you're never gonna get here.
Voodoo I dunno about you, but when someone lies to me a few times the information given by them starts loosing credibility and requires more solid evidence for me to believe on it. And thats why not all of the information posted on MMORPG.com requires proof. But maybe you havent acquired this skill yet... common sense.
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
Voodoo I dunno about you, but when someone lies to me a few times the information given by them starts loosing credibility and requires more solid evidence for me to believe on it. And thats why not all of the information posted on MMORPG.com requires proof. But maybe you havent acquired this skill yet... common sense.
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
Considering Tasos apparent disdain for this site and it's staff, I doubt it. He likes sites that are in his pocket and/or corner.
Voodoo I dunno about you, but when someone lies to me a few times the information given by them starts loosing credibility and requires more solid evidence for me to believe on it. And thats why not all of the information posted on MMORPG.com requires proof. But maybe you havent acquired this skill yet... common sense.
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
Considering Tasos apparent disdain for this site and it's staff, I doubt it. He likes sites that are in his pocket and/or corner.
Voodoo I dunno about you, but when someone lies to me a few times the information given by them starts loosing credibility and requires more solid evidence for me to believe on it. And thats why not all of the information posted on MMORPG.com requires proof. But maybe you havent acquired this skill yet... common sense.
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
Nah...
I'll settle for some proof of this statement.
"so 10k will be the minimal on at all times"
It's quotes like that one that show your namesake isn't very accurate.
Voodoo I dunno about you, but when someone lies to me a few times the information given by them starts loosing credibility and requires more solid evidence for me to believe on it. And thats why not all of the information posted on MMORPG.com requires proof. But maybe you havent acquired this skill yet... common sense.
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
Considering Tasos apparent disdain for this site and it's staff, I doubt it. He likes sites that are in his pocket and/or corner.
again posting for evidence here instead of dealing w/ the Aventurine is pointless... how could anyone prove anything on a site like this... all pointless
Voodoo I dunno about you, but when someone lies to me a few times the information given by them starts loosing credibility and requires more solid evidence for me to believe on it. And thats why not all of the information posted on MMORPG.com requires proof. But maybe you havent acquired this skill yet... common sense.
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
Nah...
I'll settle for some proof of this statement.
"so 10k will be the minimal on at all times"
It's quotes like that one that show your namesake isn't very accurate.
you know i was guessing that might be there plans i ussly try to make where it smy opinion unlike some trolls
Voodoo I dunno about you, but when someone lies to me a few times the information given by them starts loosing credibility and requires more solid evidence for me to believe on it. And thats why not all of the information posted on MMORPG.com requires proof. But maybe you havent acquired this skill yet... common sense.
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
Considering Tasos apparent disdain for this site and it's staff, I doubt it. He likes sites that are in his pocket and/or corner.
umm no a journalist is a journalist dont matter
It does matter. No journalist gets close unless Tasos lets them get close. And he doesn't like mmorpg.com. Tasos only allows "journalists" ( in a very loose sense of the word ) who are already infatuated with Darkfall and will swallow his bs without demanding more. Or he employs family or friends.
Voodoo I dunno about you, but when someone lies to me a few times the information given by them starts loosing credibility and requires more solid evidence for me to believe on it. And thats why not all of the information posted on MMORPG.com requires proof. But maybe you havent acquired this skill yet... common sense.
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
Nah...
I'll settle for some proof of this statement.
"so 10k will be the minimal on at all times"
It's quotes like that one that show your namesake isn't very accurate.
you know i was guessing that might be there plans i ussly try to make where it smy opinion unlike some trolls
So if someone's opinion is that aventurine cant deliver their promises on DFO then they are a troll but your opinion that there are going to be 10k people online minimum at all times is a sound one?
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geese maybe yous hould search darkfallleaks on google man you guys are in for a surprise
the mid december bet agot delayed when the release got delayed geese is that so ahrd ot firgure out
stress test WILL be done during open beta but sof ar even witht hem adding people there bene no stbaility issue only a few bugs that are minor and soem gameplayt weaking needed but 0 stability issues. cant oyu guysa open oyur minds alil and think hey maybe they actully did somethign right unlike this big name mmo companies pshh ><
Wer eyou durnk wehn yuo typde thsi as ist naerly impossbile to raed
there doing a press beta atm.
and
THERE WILL BE AN OPEN BETA BEFORE LAUNCH
THEY NEED TO STRESS TEST THE SERVERS TO SEE WHAT
THE SERVER CAP IS.
CAN YOU READ THIS
thanks
/facepalm
So they are doing a press beta, before they actually test the game with people? That is very smart, lets let the reviewers in before it is actually tested.
Btw can provide any proof of "there doing a press beta atm" or you just made that up?
It's posted on the MMORPG Italia site that early January includes press beta slots and coverage. As to how long before we see any articles? Who knows. You realise DF has been tested for some cosiderable time now, right? Therefore press comes after some extensive testing. The prrof is at the site. As long as you speak Italian. You could try running it through a translator I guess.
But good one on the nay saying.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims.
On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information.
And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
Actually his statement was it would FINISH in early December. They never gave a time-frame on when it would start.
But, it's been said over and over by downtoearth (nevermind that he's been wrong over and over)... that because they had to push back the Release of the "Feature Complete" and "Ready to Launch" game; that OPEN Beta has been pushed back as well.
With 16 days left until Release day... time will soon run out to come up with more reasons why there is no update. But I am sure that even if we hear nothing from Tasos by the 23rd, there will be a good excuse for it.
Who cares ... doesn't matter ... DF will be a game when it releases, until then it's guess work and a good topic for the forums.
I hope it releases and is a good solid game. If not then i guess it'll be a coaster along with the much hyped war and aoc.
After the last year of mmo releases I just can't get excited about a launch anymore, to many that did not live up to what was said. .... ..... Talk is cheap,,, show me the game.
Haha.
Let's put it this way...the game has been in development for 8 years. So if 2000 people are currently beta testing it, do you honestly think that not even a single one of them would leak *something* to prove that the game is indeed there in a playable form and that it is near ready for release? Not a single one of those 2000 people will make some sort of mention about the 8 year-long debate topic? Those are either testers sent from up above or they don't exist.
LMAO. This post made me actually laugh, but it's so true.
I have been around in gaming for nearly 20 years by now and EVERY game (FPS, RTS, RPG, MMORPG, etc) that had a Beta with gamers as Testers had leaks!
Every single one of them! Period!
Just think about that for a moment, let it sink in and then react, instead of blind rage fanboy posting.
Let's face it. It's really strange and pretty ackward that there are hardly any leaks out there (you can google all you want... it's the same old crap videos and screens we have seen years ago already... being reposted over and over).
The fact that merely 2 weeks from so called launch they still haven't bothered to update their own friggin website!
Financial reports say that they spend well over 20 million euros on development of this game. So that gotta be earned back within a sertain timeframe.
Banks are pretty much unforgiving and impatient when it comes to payback of loans, not to mention when money comes from investors!
I am all for trying to launch small and build up from there. CCP did the same with EVE Online.
But that is not the issue here.
Cheers
there doing a press beta atm.
and
THERE WILL BE AN OPEN BETA BEFORE LAUNCH
THEY NEED TO STRESS TEST THE SERVERS TO SEE WHAT
THE SERVER CAP IS.
CAN YOU READ THIS
thanks
/facepalm
So they are doing a press beta, before they actually test the game with people? That is very smart, lets let the reviewers in before it is actually tested.
Btw can provide any proof of "there doing a press beta atm" or you just made that up?
It's posted on the MMORPG Italia site that early January includes press beta slots and coverage. As to how long before we see any articles? Who knows. You realise DF has been tested for some cosiderable time now, right? Therefore press comes after some extensive testing. The prrof is at the site. As long as you speak Italian. You could try running it through a translator I guess.
But good one on the nay saying.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims.
On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information.
And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
If you had followed their cycle of releasing information in the last ~9 months, you'd know that prying information out of them is near on impossible. I understand the concept of proof as well as you do. I fail to see how a 3rd party site could have that infomation without being told. Can you suggest another way as to why they would say that?
Nothing to back it up apart from a 3rd party website for "proof". Does this mean anything I read on this site about other games being developed is not "proof"? For example, Mortal Online. I see you have a forum dedicated to it. How do I know it's really in alpha testing? See what I'm getting at? You asked for proof. Proof was provided, that didn't meet your stringent concept I guess. Feel free to disbelieve.
Granted, Tasos said there would be open beta in December. A good point to make. I guess you'd have to consult with him as to why it didn't eventuate.
Lastly, I'm not a blind fanboy. I merely check this site out once a week or so, see what's written and reply. I am a healthy skeptic. Doesn't mean I can't hope for the best though, does it.
You don't need to tell me about reading comprehension. I do well enough, thanks.
Haha.
Let's put it this way...the game has been in development for 8 years. So if 2000 people are currently beta testing it, do you honestly think that not even a single one of them would leak *something* to prove that the game is indeed there in a playable form and that it is near ready for release? Not a single one of those 2000 people will make some sort of mention about the 8 year-long debate topic? Those are either testers sent from up above or they don't exist.
LMAO. This post made me actually laugh, but it's so true.
I have been around in gaming for nearly 20 years by now and EVERY game (FPS, RTS, RPG, MMORPG, etc) that had a Beta with gamers as Testers had leaks!
Every single one of them! Period!
Just think about that for a moment, let it sink in and then react, instead of blind rage fanboy posting.
Let's face it. It's really strange and pretty ackward that there are hardly any leaks out there (you can google all you want... it's the same old crap videos and screens we have seen years ago already... being reposted over and over).
The fact that merely 2 weeks from so called launch they still haven't bothered to update their own friggin website!
Financial reports say that they spend well over 20 million euros on development of this game. So that gotta be earned back within a sertain timeframe.
Banks are pretty much unforgiving and impatient when it comes to payback of loans, not to mention when money comes from investors!
I am all for trying to launch small and build up from there. CCP did the same with EVE Online.
But that is not the issue here.
Cheers
You are absolutely right I wouldnt have put it better myself, but dont worry in no time you will get the response "but DFO is different", people have convinced themselves that somehow DFO has broke the mold and its using some unseen undiscovered development and marketing techniques, its to such an extreme that I have read people saying that they dont care about making money.
I can't answer those, I have no information to give. Wish I could though!
Haha.
Let's put it this way...the game has been in development for 8 years. So if 2000 people are currently beta testing it, do you honestly think that not even a single one of them would leak *something* to prove that the game is indeed there in a playable form and that it is near ready for release? Not a single one of those 2000 people will make some sort of mention about the 8 year-long debate topic? Those are either testers sent from up above or they don't exist.
LMAO. This post made me actually laugh, but it's so true.
I have been around in gaming for nearly 20 years by now and EVERY game (FPS, RTS, RPG, MMORPG, etc) that had a Beta with gamers as Testers had leaks!
Every single one of them! Period!
Just think about that for a moment, let it sink in and then react, instead of blind rage fanboy posting.
Let's face it. It's really strange and pretty ackward that there are hardly any leaks out there (you can google all you want... it's the same old crap videos and screens we have seen years ago already... being reposted over and over).
The fact that merely 2 weeks from so called launch they still haven't bothered to update their own friggin website!
Financial reports say that they spend well over 20 million euros on development of this game. So that gotta be earned back within a sertain timeframe.
Banks are pretty much unforgiving and impatient when it comes to payback of loans, not to mention when money comes from investors!
I am all for trying to launch small and build up from there. CCP did the same with EVE Online.
But that is not the issue here.
Cheers
You are absolutely right I wouldnt have put it better myself, but dont worry in no time you will get the response "but DFO is different", people have convinced themselves that somehow DFO has broke the mold and its using some unseen undiscovered development and marketing techniques, its to such an extreme that I have read people saying that they dont care about making money.
You'd have to think they were using 'blind fanboys' to test it or something! I know, I know, the horror of using people that love the idea and concept of Darkfall to test it.
Undiscovered development? You mean, there's something else than coding that makes games magically appear?
As for their marketing.. It sucks. Pure and simple. That my friend, is very 'different'.
there doing a press beta atm.
and
THERE WILL BE AN OPEN BETA BEFORE LAUNCH
THEY NEED TO STRESS TEST THE SERVERS TO SEE WHAT
THE SERVER CAP IS.
CAN YOU READ THIS
thanks
/facepalm
So they are doing a press beta, before they actually test the game with people? That is very smart, lets let the reviewers in before it is actually tested.
Btw can provide any proof of "there doing a press beta atm" or you just made that up?
It's posted on the MMORPG Italia site that early January includes press beta slots and coverage. As to how long before we see any articles? Who knows. You realise DF has been tested for some cosiderable time now, right? Therefore press comes after some extensive testing. The prrof is at the site. As long as you speak Italian. You could try running it through a translator I guess.
But good one on the nay saying.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims.
On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information.
And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
If you had followed their cycle of releasing information in the last ~9 months, you'd know that prying information out of them is near on impossible. I understand the concept of proof as well as you do. I fail to see how a 3rd party site could have that infomation without being told. Can you suggest another way as to why they would say that?
You missed my point again im not debating that they have said that there would be a press beta in the beginning of january, im debating the fact that downtoearth specifically said that there is a "press beta atm" that information is nowhere and he couldnt possibly know without some kind of proof that obviously doesnt exist.
Nothing to back it up apart from a 3rd party website for "proof". Does this mean anything I read on this site about other games being developed is not "proof"? For example, Mortal Online. I see you have a forum dedicated to it. How do I know it's really in alpha testing? See what I'm getting at? You asked for proof. Proof was provided, that didn't meet your stringent concept I guess. Feel free to disbelieve.
I understand your point but the analogy doesnt really fit in, downtoearth is not a representative of aventurine so how can he know that the press beta has started?
Granted, Tasos said there would be open beta in December. A good point to make. I guess you'd have to consult with him as to why it didn't eventuate.
Lastly, I'm not a blind fanboy. I merely check this site out once a week or so, see what's written and reply. I am a healthy skeptic. Doesn't mean I can't hope for the best though, does it.
There is nothing wrong with hoping for the best but labeling anyone that does not share the same opinion or questions you does not fit well in an open discussion.
You don't need to tell me about reading comprehension. I do well enough, thanks.
there doing a press beta atm.
and
THERE WILL BE AN OPEN BETA BEFORE LAUNCH
THEY NEED TO STRESS TEST THE SERVERS TO SEE WHAT
THE SERVER CAP IS.
CAN YOU READ THIS
thanks
/facepalm
So they are doing a press beta, before they actually test the game with people? That is very smart, lets let the reviewers in before it is actually tested.
Btw can provide any proof of "there doing a press beta atm" or you just made that up?
It's posted on the MMORPG Italia site that early January includes press beta slots and coverage. As to how long before we see any articles? Who knows. You realise DF has been tested for some cosiderable time now, right? Therefore press comes after some extensive testing. The prrof is at the site. As long as you speak Italian. You could try running it through a translator I guess.
But good one on the nay saying.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims.
On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information.
And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
Actually his statement was it would FINISH in early December. They never gave a time-frame on when it would start.
But, it's been said over and over by downtoearth (nevermind that he's been wrong over and over)... that because they had to push back the Release of the "Feature Complete" and "Ready to Launch" game; that OPEN Beta has been pushed back as well.
With 16 days left until Release day... time will soon run out to come up with more reasons why there is no update. But I am sure that even if we hear nothing from Tasos by the 23rd, there will be a good excuse for it.
I can't speak for downtoearth. I merely wanted to clear up some misconceptions, which you seem to believe don't have enough proof for you. I tried. Whoops!
You'd have to think they were using 'blind fanboys' to test it or something! I know, I know, the horror of using people that love the idea and concept of Darkfall to test it.
Undiscovered development? You mean, there's something else than coding that makes games magically appear?
As for their marketing.. It sucks. Pure and simple. That my friend, is very 'different'.
Ironically it's usually these so called 'blind fanboys' that leak most of the stuff on the internet.
They are the ones that usually want to show off and prove how good the game is and share it with everyone. Especially to silence their enemy (the so called trolls and haters) and show them they are wrong!
I know, I know, the horror a blind fanboy would do such a thing.
If you had followed their cycle of releasing information in the last ~9 months, you'd know that prying information out of them is near on impossible. I understand the concept of proof as well as you do. I fail to see how a 3rd party site could have that infomation without being told. Can you suggest another way as to why they would say that?
You missed my point again im not debating that they have said that there would be a press beta in the beginning of january, im debating the fact that downtoearth specifically said that there is a "press beta atm" that information is nowhere and he couldnt possibly know without some kind of proof that obviously doesnt exist.
Nothing to back it up apart from a 3rd party website for "proof". Does this mean anything I read on this site about other games being developed is not "proof"? For example, Mortal Online. I see you have a forum dedicated to it. How do I know it's really in alpha testing? See what I'm getting at? You asked for proof. Proof was provided, that didn't meet your stringent concept I guess. Feel free to disbelieve.
I understand your point but the analogy doesnt really fit in, downtoearth is not a representative of aventurine so how can he know that the press beta has started?
Granted, Tasos said there would be open beta in December. A good point to make. I guess you'd have to consult with him as to why it didn't eventuate.
Lastly, I'm not a blind fanboy. I merely check this site out once a week or so, see what's written and reply. I am a healthy skeptic. Doesn't mean I can't hope for the best though, does it.
There is nothing wrong with hoping for the best but labeling anyone that does not share the same opinion or questions you does not fit well in an open discussion.
You don't need to tell me about reading comprehension. I do well enough, thanks.
I refer you to the 'blind fanboyism'. So I guess neither of us has open discussion potential. Even after complimenting you on the nay saying.
at 14 pages, doesn't everyone here think this thread is pointless to post in... i've read every post and find that everyone posting is debating the same argument over and over... read through them all and you'll see everything that has been argued is just repeated
realy what's the point
there doing a press beta atm.
and
THERE WILL BE AN OPEN BETA BEFORE LAUNCH
THEY NEED TO STRESS TEST THE SERVERS TO SEE WHAT
THE SERVER CAP IS.
CAN YOU READ THIS
thanks
/facepalm
So they are doing a press beta, before they actually test the game with people? That is very smart, lets let the reviewers in before it is actually tested.
Btw can provide any proof of "there doing a press beta atm" or you just made that up?
It's posted on the MMORPG Italia site that early January includes press beta slots and coverage. As to how long before we see any articles? Who knows. You realise DF has been tested for some cosiderable time now, right? Therefore press comes after some extensive testing. The prrof is at the site. As long as you speak Italian. You could try running it through a translator I guess.
But good one on the nay saying.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims.
On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information.
And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
Actually his statement was it would FINISH in early December. They never gave a time-frame on when it would start.
But, it's been said over and over by downtoearth (nevermind that he's been wrong over and over)... that because they had to push back the Release of the "Feature Complete" and "Ready to Launch" game; that OPEN Beta has been pushed back as well.
With 16 days left until Release day... time will soon run out to come up with more reasons why there is no update. But I am sure that even if we hear nothing from Tasos by the 23rd, there will be a good excuse for it.
I can't speak for downtoearth. I merely wanted to clear up some misconceptions, which you seem to believe don't have enough proof for you. I tried. Whoops!
umm what are they accussing me of now?
o yea the game is feature complete but stuff is disabled because there doing q/a process on everything instead just turining everything on and then guessing what bug caused what . plus its a good way to get feedback on gameplay. when they pushed release back all that means is more time for polish.
i mean they can accuse me of what ever they want but when there wrong there wrong . i wll admit being wrong about when something is going to happen. because how am i suppose to know whats happening at aventurine. we dont even know the reason for delay. even tho i have a feeling i know why or close to it.
it has nothing to do with tasos lieing
Voodoo I dunno about you, but when someone lies to me a few times the information given by them starts loosing credibility and requires more solid evidence for me to believe on it. And thats why not all of the information posted on MMORPG.com requires proof. But maybe you havent acquired this skill yet... common sense.
but what's the point of all this... none of us work for venturing, none of us are taso... i mean have you read all the posts? it's the same arguements rehashed over and over... nothing gets solved, and no one will ever know the truth on this subject matter no matter how many times people post..
makes now sense trying to get "solid evidence" from anyone here since this is not the Aventurine website...
May I suggest to everyone here that you should send emails to Aventurine instead of posting for answers you're never gonna get here.
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
I just googled beta leaks and came up with some stuff from last month. Wonder if google greece would come up with anything different tho
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
Considering Tasos apparent disdain for this site and it's staff, I doubt it. He likes sites that are in his pocket and/or corner.
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
Considering Tasos apparent disdain for this site and it's staff, I doubt it. He likes sites that are in his pocket and/or corner.
umm no a journalist is a journalist dont matter
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
Nah...
I'll settle for some proof of this statement.
"so 10k will be the minimal on at all times"
It's quotes like that one that show your namesake isn't very accurate.
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
Considering Tasos apparent disdain for this site and it's staff, I doubt it. He likes sites that are in his pocket and/or corner.
again posting for evidence here instead of dealing w/ the Aventurine is pointless... how could anyone prove anything on a site like this... all pointless
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
Nah...
I'll settle for some proof of this statement.
"so 10k will be the minimal on at all times"
It's quotes like that one that show your namesake isn't very accurate.
you know i was guessing that might be there plans i ussly try to make where it smy opinion unlike some trolls
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
Considering Tasos apparent disdain for this site and it's staff, I doubt it. He likes sites that are in his pocket and/or corner.
umm no a journalist is a journalist dont matter
It does matter. No journalist gets close unless Tasos lets them get close. And he doesn't like mmorpg.com. Tasos only allows "journalists" ( in a very loose sense of the word ) who are already infatuated with Darkfall and will swallow his bs without demanding more. Or he employs family or friends.
yea you will get your evidence here soonish.
i wonder if mmorpg.com is prt of the journalist beta umm
Nah...
I'll settle for some proof of this statement.
"so 10k will be the minimal on at all times"
It's quotes like that one that show your namesake isn't very accurate.
you know i was guessing that might be there plans i ussly try to make where it smy opinion unlike some trolls
So if someone's opinion is that aventurine cant deliver their promises on DFO then they are a troll but your opinion that there are going to be 10k people online minimum at all times is a sound one?