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Why is everybody leaving AoC?
MeatEtr
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I still haven't bought a new rig to play AoC or any other new MMO for that matter. I'm already a big fan of the Conan lore but am a bit disappointed by the server merges lately.
My buddy told me it's because Funcom made a lot of the medium-to-high level stuff unnecessarily hard. Primarily to lengthen the time it takes to level since the high level stuff isn't fully fleshed out. Is this true?
So what's up, why is everybody ditching AoC?
I was considering going with WAR after my rig upgrade.
I should mention that I really like LOTRO and played EQ and EQ2. I don't play any of these anymore, I call myself retired from them.
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man your way behind the times if you dont know why a mass exodus came upon AoC. Ill just be cruel and tell you to get max level then your question will be answered. I am sure others will weigh in on the problems more for you.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
If your considering going to WAR they will end up with roughly the same amount of servers.
AoC will have roughly the same amount of servers after the merge as LOTRO too.
They announced back in September that merges will be happening.
Population is increasing if anything, thread to request buddy keys here is gaining interest, lots of new faces in game and on the official forums.
Xfire if your into that shows a relatively stable amount of people playing over the past few months.
Just because they are merging servers doesn't mean to say that everyone is leaving.
The population is spread to thin over twice as many servers as other games. After a lot of people left in the summer the community called for merges to correct the pop on servers. This month is a result of that.
My guild took in 28 new people to the game over the past month.
Imagine a LOTRO "brandywine" server split over 3/4 servers - thats all it is - consilidation from a loss of populous half a year ago. There is no point having some 50 odd servers when you only need 25 ish. With each one provisioned for some 15k the math shows that with what is left is still enough for a decent community. Coupled with plenty of reports of the servers that just got merged first off as now booming population. This is more of a reason to check it out, if population concerns was a main concern to begin with.
People left Age of Conan because it was horribly incomplete at launch, criminally incomplete. I feel quite wripped off especially after I rolled a Dark Templar only to realize that it was the most neglected "class" in the game -- And that is saying A LOT.
The game is more stable (AS IT SHOULD BE) now. It has more content. It has better PvP. It still has no real crafting or any freedom.
Basically Age of Conan is entertaining for a few days and then you realize that you are wasting time you could spend doing something more fruitful and fun. The game has no purpose and it feels like it was designed for a 10 year old (violence aside). The game is simply the most dumbed-down game I can imagine playing. It's the most linear game I have ever seen.
After Tortage (the beginning 20 levels or so) the game goes to crap, and fast.
My suggestion to you is don't upgrade your rig to play Age of Conan. Regardless of what SOME may tell you on this site, Age of Conan lost 75% of it's playerbase for a good reason. I wasted a lot of money on that crapfest and I hope that others don't do the same.
Give your time and money to a company that actually offers a good product, good support, ethical behaviour, and a somewhat COMPLETE game. Last April my gamebox said "Enahnced for DX 10" and I never got to play it in DX 10 because Funcom doesn't have it in the game -- LMAO. What a joke.
Tecmo Bowl.
As for your computer upgrade, A computer upgrade is never a bad thing if you can afford it with no problem. However if it will slightly put you in any finacial bind in any way, do not upgrade it for AoC alone, untill your sure that you can stomach AoC in the end-game.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
Thanks for the feedback guys. So it sounds like the end game for AoC is whats lacking then. I can deal with that as long as it's fun all they way to level 80. I've never been real big into PvP anyway, more of a PvE player.
Oh and no, I'm not upgrading my PC for AoC alone. I'm missing out on a lot of other new games.
My specs are:
P4 3.2 Ghz XP SP3
GF 6800GT
1G RAM
SB Audigy 2
Give Fallen Earth a look. Age of Conan just isn't worthy paying for, and I'm far from alone in my belief of that. Developers shouldn't be rewarded for poor performance.
Tecmo Bowl.
because it is getting boring
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It is much more than the end game that is missing from AoC. AoC was released well over a year early, and is still missing features that were supposed to be in at launch (such as 'drunken brawling').
The first twently level of AoC are really good, mainly because the only part of the game that was finished was Tortage (the newbie island). Once you leave Tortage, the game goes into a major decline that gets progressively worse until around level 60, and then it levels out through 80.
Anyway, dev promised too much they could deliver, and such bad development process was one of the worst I've ever seen.
Betraying community's trust was the biggest nail to the coffin. From >700k subscribers in 1st month, how many extended subscription ? 200k ? epic
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I was part of one of the biggest guild on an AOC pve server. We had 350 people. Presently around 3 people are active. Not kidding, and its sad really.
The first 20 levels are great, but it plays EXACTLY like a single player game. After that, you go to a new map every 10 levels, and people mostly solo.
I'm not going into the horrible decision making of rthe developers since launch, but the community overal has been dissapointed.
Bottom line, AOC doesnt seem to have longevity necessary for people to stay into the MMO.
When i tried AOC i loved 1-20 but i look for more then killing mobs and mindless pvp. Nation or RVR is what im looking for so i left.
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I think a lot of people treat MMO's these days like solo games, play them for one or two months and finish. They have no intention of being there six months later, yet alone a year.
The game was flawed at launch, but most of the bugs have now been ironed out. New content is slowly coming, but as was mentioned some of it is designed for a lifetime of grind like the PvP sets.
I think it is a game that still has fantastic promise, is still improving but has not yet become as good as we dreamed and know it could become.
The game has no appeal at all. There is no World feeling due to massive instancing. You feel like you are on rails going through the instanced maps. Dungeons are split into several instances too, that just kills it for me.
There is absolutely no sense of accomplishment at all. I never had a moment where i sat back and said to myself, "Great i have achieved XYZ, thats great!". There is nothing to accomplish except maybe level to 80, thats it. Once you have done that you have seen all of the game, ALL of it. There is nothing to explore, no different story lines for the different classes. It is a mind numbing single player experience with a chatroom and some old school boring PvP murder system tacked on top.
Contrary to some people here i do not even see potential in the future because the basis of the game is so rotten and stupid, it can never be good. Adding content will not safe the game, it is missing one crucial ingredient: IMMERSION.
KJ
I was a rabid AoC fanbois ..... then it released!
Half the features I bought it for weren't in, siege warfare was only for exclusive little clubs in instanced areas. It was just a PVE grind turd until lvl 80 then there was nothing to do! PvP had no meaning whatsoever, in fact people were begging for me to waste them so they could travel faster through the monotonous zones.
The PvE was just <Mod edit> in the end, too difficult to get a group so you solo most of the time. No good meeting areas and absoloutley no role playing at all. I'm an rper and can count the amount of rpers I met in AoC on one hand.
At lvl 80 there is nothing to do in the game, it is basically game over. Once you've reached level 80 you're sick and tired of gathering or PVE, and I'd rather eat broken glass than roll another char. In fact I believe they use AoC as soft torture in Guantanamo bay!
"Tell us everything or it's waterboarding"
"Never!"
"OK set up the electricrodes and water"
"Pathetic!"
"Put him in a skin diving suit, cut out the bottom and unleash the rampant wilderbeast!"
"I spit on you!"
"OK tie him in a chair and force him to do the final destiny quest"
"Damn you infidel bastards, what do you want to know?"
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
Most people that buy AoC was expecting a different game, one with massive multiplayer. And that is not what AoC is. AoC is not a bad game, but is not way what the dev's say, or suggest.
In a sense, AoC is like Hellgate London. A singleplayer experience streamlined into a linear path that players have to follow. For some reason that is not enough to have people playing a MMO more than 3 months.
Another problem is that AoC is unfinished in several critical ways. Yea, you have nice graphics, but some very important stats not working, or working in a non-intended way. Or the drop tables soo bad you get exactly the same gear as everybody else. Maybe the game have 1000 different sets, but If you are a guardian, I will know the minute I see your gear, because will look the same as mine on your level (maybe a side effect of having a linear experience on MMORPG, people mixmax gear).
AoC is the only MMO I have deleted from my harddisk with a angry face. Theres something on this game that shout deception and lies, and broken promises. Friends don't let friends to play AoC. But you aren't my friend, so buy it, who know? you will see some interesting graphics, maps, and maybe people.
Pro-tip:
Take anything that AmazingAvery say with a grain of salt. She/he is our resident AoC fanboy ( a cool one anyway :-) )
Unfortunately the MMOs themselves seem to be catering to the soloers and there is little or no incentive to play with other people in most games anymore......At best you get group quests, then you only group up for a few minutes to do the quest and then its back to soloing again......... Hopefully we get a game someday where it encourages grouping and cooperation......
I'll tell you why I left AoC.
I started in Tortage, I had a blast. The quests were well written,the plot actually grabbed my attention and I didn't feel like I was "grinding"
Then I left Tortage. The game then became a grindfest. Go kill 100 goblins and return to me their beads so I can hang them above my mantle so I can say I got revenge upon those that killed my grandfather. Also the mid-level content (at that time) was lacking and you literally had to grind 4-5 levels in each zone before moving onto the next area. Between level 30-60 I had to grind 15 or so levels. There were updates yes. Infact they came regularly. Problem is that once a month some class got totally redone and it's actual role ingame changed. People didn't like the new role and switched to another class sometimes. And other times the update made them the flavor of the month. This went on for months on end.
Some of the classes made no sense in PvP. Herald of Xotli (HoX for short) was a melee/magic combo who wore cloth. We all know what happens to a cloth user who is stuck in melee. Sure they did good damage. Problem is they only lived for 5 seconds. I could easily 2 combo them back in the day and they would fall dead before they even got in range to do any damage to me. Sure they did well in PvE but were useless in PvP. And they weren't the only ones that were laughably unbalanced in PvP. Some classes were gods in PvP others were a joke. I was a ranger and during PvP I picked on cloth classes mostly as all I needed to do was 2 combo's and they were dead. Heck even I felt it was unbalanced.
Endgame, well there was almost none at the time I left. I spent the last 2 months ingame helping out guild alts/slow levellers or standing on the battlements in a seige picking people off. Or waiting a week to do an endgame dungeon. It got horribly boring and I moved on.
Some of the classes were very interesting. HoX for example was a nice mix. Problem was they were near useless in PvP. 75% of the time they died before they could do any damage. Necromancer could have a ton of pets. But even at 80 their pets did negligable damage and had very low life. I'm to understand that the pets never really held aggro except when a certain skill was used and then only for a few seconds. It seems as if the pets were meant to be a DoT of sorts but in all honesty they were a joke.
Now maybe much of what I wrote has changed since last I played. But at the time I left this is what I had experienced and was the main reason I left the game. We got to the level cap and just got bored. The game had promise but it released way to early and very unfinished IMO.
The game hasn't changed. I went back last month, and from level 40 to 55-60. it is still the same "kill 30 boars to avenge my crops" grind, or "enter this Villa/dungeon and grind through these henchmen to kill the boss and free my daughter" bs. Solo, the game is a dull pain. In groups, it's no challenge. As was mentioned before, as well, the game puts you on rails going through different zones. You would get as much, if not more, fun playing Oblivion.
When a game like Guild Wars, 4 years old and with a low graphics engine, has more variety and just as good customising armor as an MMO with "bleeding edge" graphics, you know someone failed. I played GW for 2 yearsand still have fun with it. AoC bored me after Tortage.
The game launched with about 800,000 players, and within 3 months was down to about 75,000.
You will get fanboys and trolls fighting.. but the reality is in the subscriptions where players vote with their money.
I will say this though.. Tortage is very well done, and the graphics are top notch. If you can get the game for less than $10, it is worth it just to play the free month. Just remember to cancel your credit card information.. Funcom ripped a lot of people off by billing them after they cancelled.
lol. Dude the bottom line is that the game came out and wasnt really ready from a general content or technical perspective. now i dont knwo hwo many of teh 800k players would have stayed if it came out teh way it is now, but i can say that they probably stilll would have needed soem kind of merger or character transfer. I know a few people at my office who bought age of conan that never played MMos, didnt like it and just stopped playing after tortage. There were tons of people like that.
cuz it sucks
Everyone leaving ? I think you got it wrong m8, its the other way, people are coming back to AOC.
Well many people left AOC at launch and a few months later becaus it had alot of problems, like Buggs, bad performence, missing content etc.
But today the game has improved alot and its really cool now, many people are returning and many new people are joining. They are merging the servers becaus many people left, after the merge the server pops will be better and people will be happy, and after sometime when more and more players will come back they will open up more servers, they are also opening new Fresh start servers after the merges are done.
Its all good, this game is great, after the merges they will release a new huge patch with some really nice stuff.
I recommend people to buy and resub this amazing game !
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So do you like just making up numbers as you go?
' Famine ' is hanging around these boards today, maybe he will give us the official numbers ....
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So do you like just making up numbers as you go?
' Famine ' is hanging around these boards today, maybe he will give us the official numbers ....
I know, I know ... but it would be nice to have an honest answer from FC for once.
If the numbers were good, you can bet he would be tripping over himself to post those numbers.