Look at this video www.youtube.com/watch this is what darkfall combat animations should have looked like
Okay so the big issue is Darkfall is that people say it's great when there is nothing to show for it yet these games have even less and yet they are the next best thing?
Can someone say hypocritical?
Actually those games will probably have more, the combat system already looks better than that of Darkfall.
Yeah cause a korean MMORPG that is not going to be anything like a sandbox will really attract the type of players that Darkfall attracts. Nice advertisement though.
Interesting. And where does this info come from? I haven't found anything that says whether or not the game will be sandbox or linear or some combination.
How many korean sandbox games do you know?
How many korean grind games do you know?
Odds are this is just going to be a reskinned korean grinder.
How many korean mmorpg's have you seen that play like that? Probably none.
Remember kids, stereotyping will always come bite you.
As for Darkfall VS TERA, Games like TERA just show how terrible Darkfalls combat really is.
Actually, next gen korean mmorpg's are already way ahead of Darkfalls cute little combat system
Both of those clips you linked show arcade style combat. Ugly, clunky, button bashing crap. Not nex-gen combat, insomuch as it is not-last-gen-but-the-gen-before combat in a 3d environment. Think street-fighter or streets of rage in 3d
Both of those clips show advanced mmorpg character movement unlike anything we have ever seen in any mmorpg. What other mmorpg can you first throw a guy away in the air, jump after him, slash him a couple of times, grab him, than throw him right down in his pals while you quickly jump away and launch a volley of arrows as you make your escape from the group? You certainly can't do that in Darkfall.
Darkfalls, ahum "FPS like combat" is about 10 years behind the curve. It's about as basic as twitch based combat can possibly get.
The combat featured in those videos was not "twitch-based" at all. Standing close enough to something so that your sword can reach it when you swing, or your 'grapple-attack' can be activated does not make this game revolutionary in it's combat style.
Darkfalls combat is supposed to be a realistic twitch-based system where you can aim ranged attacks, block incoming attacks and aim melee attacks to some extent. You can't compare some MMO with a combat system similar to something seen in the Devil May Cry series to another MMO with a system more like Oblivion.
They're completely different animals. One is made for a realistic or more simulated approach to combat, while the other is made to look cool when the right combination of buttons are pressed.
Actually it is. You actually have to aim your attack, manually block, and move/roll/jump out of the way, all in real time. Considering that the pace is MUCH faster than that of Darkfall, Continent of the Ninth is more twitch than Darkfall will ever be.
But you're right in comparing it to DMC and Oblivion as DMC's combat has far more depth, skill, and overall quality than that of Oblivion.
And is this game built around a Player versus Player concept? Am I going ot be able to grab another player, throw HIM in the air and then shower him with arrows? I would be confident to think not.
That aside, the combat here is not next generation. Dodging/rolling has already been done, aiming your attack looks as simple as standing in front of your target, and the fast paced hack and slash just seems like any other game.
If you really like your asain style MMO's then that's fine. I personally don't care for them at all. What I'm really trying to point out here is that no matter how hard you try to project about the superiority of TERA's combat system, you're to meet stiff opposition from people who just don't like that kind of system. Afterall, we've seen it all before. Maybe not in an MMO, but all the elements are recycled.
The game has only recently been unveiled, don't know if its build around PVP but considering korean mmorpg's are known for their heavy focus on PVP I wouldn't be surprised.
You're clearly in denial. You can clearly see you have to aim your attack in the video (You did actually watch the video before you commented, right?). You can also see how the Archer takes advantage of the terrain, jumping from cliff to cliff, taking distance in consideration. Saying it's just like any other game is downright ignorant and is an undeniable act of denial.
The reason you meet stiff opposition here is simply because it doesn't have Darkfall slapped on the box. Darkfall fans aren't passionate, they have long passed that stage. It has now become a cult with the only intention is to bash just about everything that isn't Darkfall.
The Hypocricy is also undeniable. For years Darkfall fandrones have been praising Darkfall for having twitch based combat. So here comes another mmorpg which actually does the same just better, and excuses are found to bash it.
It's so sad that it's actually funny.
I just don't see how those videos can be compared at all to what Darkfall is supposed to be? One of the previous posters got it spot on when he said that this game would more likely be competition for Aion.
Comparing apples to oranges never works.
I did indeed watch the video, and I will agree whole-heartedly that the graphics and animations look quite amazing. However, we were debating the combat system were we not? I think it looks like a console-button basher and I'm not for it.
Nothing personal against you, or the game. It's just not my thing, and I'd prefer something more meticulous.
Look at this video www.youtube.com/watch this is what darkfall combat animations should have looked like
Okay so the big issue is Darkfall is that people say it's great when there is nothing to show for it yet these games have even less and yet they are the next best thing?
Can someone say hypocritical?
Actually those games will probably have more, the combat system already looks better than that of Darkfall.
Great now how many games look nice from prerendered fight scenes but play terrible once they are released. I can think of more then a few from the last year.
You are making the same assumption that these Darkfall fans are making and it's a joke. Darkfall haters are a joke.
Wow, why are you even trying? That darkfall video is from an EARLY build 3+ years ago and you know it. This video is more accurate on what darkfall looks like in motion graphic wise, press High quality http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=XX4jLw5oM1c
It's not often I agree with GameLoading. However, after watching that video you provided the link to, xana, I have to agree with him. DF looks fine until you start moving. I don't think you helped the game's case with that video.
The run animation on that character is *horrid*. There is no rotation in the character's hips when she's running; no movement at all. It's sort of a running waddle. Even when she's strafing.
One thing Blizzard is consistently good with is their animations and, actually, WoW looks its best (imo) when you're in motion.
That said, this is another of those threads that will go nowhere. DF fans will say that whatever DF does is "good, because it's DF" and no matter what you show them in comparison will be "not as good... because it's not DF"... and vice versa for those who don't like DF, of course.
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Can someone please explain to me wtf the OP is doing comparing a game with what appears to have similarities with Devil May Cry's combat to a game which has a combat system similar to Oblivion/Mount & Blade?
Serioudly wtf?
I like all 3 of those games but they are VASTLY different.
I love how people call it a "grindfest". Aside from the fact the studio states the game is made for a global audience, How long do you think it's going to take to level all those skills in Darkfall?
This is why people like you should just stop, think and quit your discussion. You like to play games where you gain items and stats.
Darkfall is not such a game, Darkfall is a platform for clan politics and character development in another fashion than the regular mold, grind xp, grind items rinse and repeat.
Most people don't understand how others might see MMORPG's and why they frown upon games that spoon-feed them and are claustrophobic. MMORPG's should be open and player driven but every other MMORPG is not designed this way so it's impossible, but not Darkfall.
This is why people like you should stop posting on forums. You know which games were also about clan politics? Lineage, Lineage 2, ArchLord, Age of Conan, Dark & light and many, many more.
Just because a game features clan politics doesn't mean the won't be any grind.
You totally misinterpreted what I wrote. You nitpick a word or two take it out of context and ramble on. It seems you do not understand Darkfall and the aspect of a sandbox MMORPG, a true MMORPG where the world is the players to dictate and form not a static landscaped restricted world that only offers you linear gameplay.
I doubt you'll see the foolishness of your urge to debate something that you don't understand or dislike due to ignorance.
A few people likes games where they don't get their hands held, where they aren't restricted, where your action defines you not the gear or levels you grinded. Where there is an overwhelming risk that will keep you on your toes. - So we get a niche game called Darkfall Online, hooray for us!
And it seems the majority likes games that are easy, that have low next to no risks vs rewards, where you can get über equipment to define your character. - That's like 90% or even more of the games out there and currently being developed.
So why the f are so many people "attacking" Darkfall? Are they secretly longing for this kind of game but too afraid to admit it so their insecurity burns some wiring in their brains causing them to attack the source of their agony?
Well, I see there is no point in discussing with you since your mind can't grasp the broader perspective.
Can someone please explain to me wtf the OP is doing comparing a game with what appears to have similarities with Devil May Cry's combat to a game which has a combat system similar to Oblivion/Mount & Blade? Serioudly wtf? I like all 3 of those games but they are VASTLY different. Christ on a bicycle.
Do you understand the simple fact that the DF crowd could care less about this? They have waited and they are going to play Darkfall. I'm fairly confident I understand this fact, and I'm also confident a three year old could as well.
Feel free to link up as many games as you want. At the end of the day, it simply makes you look like the creepy one who is somehow offended by the fact that DF has such a crazed fan base. If and when you manage to ignore the crowd of fans and just take gaming for what it's worth, I bet you'll find it's better to not start posts like these and just enjoy your hobby.
If it's in response to the arrogant posts from the DF community that makes you feel the need to make this one, tell me, what difference do you have with them now?
Wow, why are you even trying? That darkfall video is from an EARLY build 3+ years ago and you know it. This video is more accurate on what darkfall looks like in motion graphic wise, press High quality http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=XX4jLw5oM1c
It's not often I agree with GameLoading. However, after watching that video you provided the link to, xana, I have to agree with him. DF looks fine until you start moving. I don't think you helped the game's case with that video.
The run animation on that character is *horrid*. There is no rotation in the character's hips when she's running; no movement at all. It's sort of a running waddle. Even when she's strafing.
One thing Blizzard is consistently good with is their animations and, actually, WoW looks its best (imo) when you're in motion.
That said, this is another of those threads that will go nowhere. DF fans will say that whatever DF does is "good, because it's DF" and no matter what you show them in comparison will be "not as good... because it's not DF"... and vice versa for those who don't like DF, of course.
I have to agree here. The way that woman walks is really awefull. Even AoC has better animations than that.
You don't need top notch graphics to display good animation, WoW proves that. The animations is what makes it still look good. Wich says a lot for a dated game like that.
The environment in Darkfall however does look very good.
Darkfall looks better than World of warcraft graphics and combat wise. Would you say that world of warcraft is outdated?
2 things wrong with your argument.
First of all Darkfall does not look better than World of Warcraft.
Also, World of Warcraft is 4 years old. Darkfall is about to release (we think...). standards are higher today for a new game.
Yeah, World of Warcraft has alot better graphics than Darkfall, just compare these screenshots..
Way to be biased on pic choice...picking a pic of WoW on lowest setting and a pic of DF the devs touched up.
(NONE OF THESE SCREENS ARE MINE)
World of Warcraft (2004 Release)
Darkfall (Est. 2009 release)-
And these are the ones on the official site that are meant to make the game look prettier (warhammer did the samething but the actual game looked ugly as hell). The beta leaks of df look twenty times worse then the ones on the official site. I hate WoW but its insulting to say DF has better graphics than it (Search df beta leaks blogspot in google, I cant post any of the real screens here.)
Darkfall looks better than World of warcraft graphics and combat wise. Would you say that world of warcraft is outdated?
2 things wrong with your argument.
First of all Darkfall does not look better than World of Warcraft.
Also, World of Warcraft is 4 years old. Darkfall is about to release (we think...). standards are higher today for a new game.
Yeah, World of Warcraft has alot better graphics than Darkfall, just compare these screenshots..
Way to be biased on pic choice...picking a pic of WoW on lowest setting and a pic of DF the devs touched up.
(NONE OF THESE SCREENS ARE MINE)
World of Warcraft (2004 Release)
Darkfall (Est. 2009 release)-
And these are the ones on the official site that are meant to make the game look prettier (warhammer did the samething but the actual game looked ugly as hell). The beta leaks of df look twenty times worse then the ones on the official site. I hate WoW but its insulting to say DF has better graphics than it (Search df beta leaks blogspot in google, I cant post any of the real screens here.)
Are serious? If you look at the Darkfall screens you posted they say "2006" and "2007" . You do realise that we live in 2009, right?
Darkfall looks better than World of warcraft graphics and combat wise. Would you say that world of warcraft is outdated?
2 things wrong with your argument.
First of all Darkfall does not look better than World of Warcraft.
Also, World of Warcraft is 4 years old. Darkfall is about to release (we think...). standards are higher today for a new game.
Yeah, World of Warcraft has alot better graphics than Darkfall, just compare these screenshots..
Way to be biased on pic choice...picking a pic of WoW on lowest setting and a pic of DF the devs touched up.
(NONE OF THESE SCREENS ARE MINE)
World of Warcraft (2004 Release)
Darkfall (Est. 2009 release)-
And these are the ones on the official site that are meant to make the game look prettier (warhammer did the samething but the actual game looked ugly as hell). The beta leaks of df look twenty times worse then the ones on the official site. I hate WoW but its insulting to say DF has better graphics than it (Search df beta leaks blogspot in google, I cant post any of the real screens here.)
Are serious? If you look at the Darkfall screens you posted they say "2006" and "2007" . You do realise that we live in 2009, right?
The 2009 ones are touched up and do not show how the actual game looks. This recent week tons of new screens have been released from beta leakers that look worse then the 2006 ones and they have comps that can run high end games. Hell even look at their 2008 video trailer, it looks worse then their first pair of screens.
Darkfall looks better than World of warcraft graphics and combat wise. Would you say that world of warcraft is outdated?
2 things wrong with your argument.
First of all Darkfall does not look better than World of Warcraft.
Also, World of Warcraft is 4 years old. Darkfall is about to release (we think...). standards are higher today for a new game.
Yeah, World of Warcraft has alot better graphics than Darkfall, just compare these screenshots..
Way to be biased on pic choice...picking a pic of WoW on lowest setting and a pic of DF the devs touched up.
(NONE OF THESE SCREENS ARE MINE)
World of Warcraft (2004 Release)
Darkfall (Est. 2009 release)-
And these are the ones on the official site that are meant to make the game look prettier (warhammer did the samething but the actual game looked ugly as hell). The beta leaks of df look twenty times worse then the ones on the official site. I hate WoW but its insulting to say DF has better graphics than it (Search df beta leaks blogspot in google, I cant post any of the real screens here.)
Are serious? If you look at the Darkfall screens you posted they say "2006" and "2007" . You do realise that we live in 2009, right?
The 2009 ones are touched up and do not show how the actual game looks. This recent week tons of new screens have been released from beta leakers that look worse then the 2006 ones and they have comps that can run high end games. Hell even look at their 2008 video trailer, it looks worse then their first pair of screens.
First off, the ones you are claiming are "touched up" are from 2008.
Second, I see your logic now, so the ones from 2006, which are outdated and worse looking than 2008 ones (go figure) must be the REAL ones, because no game in development could get better graphics as development continues. 2008 screen shots look good, so they must be fake, and you know this of course, cause you've played the game right? Way to lose the argument lol
Darkfall looks better than World of warcraft graphics and combat wise. Would you say that world of warcraft is outdated?
2 things wrong with your argument.
First of all Darkfall does not look better than World of Warcraft.
Also, World of Warcraft is 4 years old. Darkfall is about to release (we think...). standards are higher today for a new game.
Yeah, World of Warcraft has alot better graphics than Darkfall, just compare these screenshots..
Way to be biased on pic choice...picking a pic of WoW on lowest setting and a pic of DF the devs touched up.
(NONE OF THESE SCREENS ARE MINE)
World of Warcraft (2004 Release)
Darkfall (Est. 2009 release)-
And these are the ones on the official site that are meant to make the game look prettier (warhammer did the samething but the actual game looked ugly as hell). The beta leaks of df look twenty times worse then the ones on the official site. I hate WoW but its insulting to say DF has better graphics than it (Search df beta leaks blogspot in google, I cant post any of the real screens here.)
Are serious? If you look at the Darkfall screens you posted they say "2006" and "2007" . You do realise that we live in 2009, right?
The 2009 ones are touched up and do not show how the actual game looks. This recent week tons of new screens have been released from beta leakers that look worse then the 2006 ones and they have comps that can run high end games. Hell even look at their 2008 video trailer, it looks worse then their first pair of screens.
First off, the ones you are claiming are "touched up" are from 2008.
Second, I see your logic now, so the ones from 2006, which are outdated and worse looking than 2008 ones (go figure) must be the REAL ones, because no game in development could get better graphics as development continues. 2008 screen shots look good, so they must be fake, and you know this of course, cause you've played the game right? Way to lose the argument lol
Way to ignore the video part. The trailer they released late 2008 looks nothing like the pics they released. They look a lot more like the 06 and 07, and thats somewhat of a strech, I think it looks even a little worse then 06 and 07. Maybe you should see this video-
Not only that, recent beta leaks that are brand new posted by ppl with high end comps posted screens that look plain out ugly. I could understand complimenting DFs features and etc... but the graphics are by far the ugliest ive seen for a possible 09 pay to play mmo. It would be considered ugly even in earlier years.
Darkfall looks better than World of warcraft graphics and combat wise. Would you say that world of warcraft is outdated?
2 things wrong with your argument.
First of all Darkfall does not look better than World of Warcraft.
Also, World of Warcraft is 4 years old. Darkfall is about to release (we think...). standards are higher today for a new game.
Yeah, World of Warcraft has alot better graphics than Darkfall, just compare these screenshots..
Way to be biased on pic choice...picking a pic of WoW on lowest setting and a pic of DF the devs touched up.
(NONE OF THESE SCREENS ARE MINE)
World of Warcraft (2004 Release)
Darkfall (Est. 2009 release)-
And these are the ones on the official site that are meant to make the game look prettier (warhammer did the samething but the actual game looked ugly as hell). The beta leaks of df look twenty times worse then the ones on the official site. I hate WoW but its insulting to say DF has better graphics than it (Search df beta leaks blogspot in google, I cant post any of the real screens here.)
Are serious? If you look at the Darkfall screens you posted they say "2006" and "2007" . You do realise that we live in 2009, right?
The 2009 ones are touched up and do not show how the actual game looks. This recent week tons of new screens have been released from beta leakers that look worse then the 2006 ones and they have comps that can run high end games. Hell even look at their 2008 video trailer, it looks worse then their first pair of screens.
First off, the ones you are claiming are "touched up" are from 2008.
Second, I see your logic now, so the ones from 2006, which are outdated and worse looking than 2008 ones (go figure) must be the REAL ones, because no game in development could get better graphics as development continues. 2008 screen shots look good, so they must be fake, and you know this of course, cause you've played the game right? Way to lose the argument lol
Way to ignore the video part. The trailer they released late 2008 looks nothing like the pics they released. They look a lot more like the 06 and 07, and thats somewhat of a strech, I think it looks even a little worse then 06 and 07. Maybe you should see this video-
Not only that, recent beta leaks that are brand new posted by ppl with high end comps posted screens that look plain out ugly.
I have seen the video, it looks great, and its only on medium settings. Guess you missed that part.
Darkfall looks better than World of warcraft graphics and combat wise. Would you say that world of warcraft is outdated?
2 things wrong with your argument.
First of all Darkfall does not look better than World of Warcraft.
Also, World of Warcraft is 4 years old. Darkfall is about to release (we think...). standards are higher today for a new game.
Yeah, World of Warcraft has alot better graphics than Darkfall, just compare these screenshots..
Way to be biased on pic choice...picking a pic of WoW on lowest setting and a pic of DF the devs touched up.
(NONE OF THESE SCREENS ARE MINE)
World of Warcraft (2004 Release)
Darkfall (Est. 2009 release)-
And these are the ones on the official site that are meant to make the game look prettier (warhammer did the samething but the actual game looked ugly as hell). The beta leaks of df look twenty times worse then the ones on the official site. I hate WoW but its insulting to say DF has better graphics than it (Search df beta leaks blogspot in google, I cant post any of the real screens here.)
Are serious? If you look at the Darkfall screens you posted they say "2006" and "2007" . You do realise that we live in 2009, right?
The 2009 ones are touched up and do not show how the actual game looks. This recent week tons of new screens have been released from beta leakers that look worse then the 2006 ones and they have comps that can run high end games. Hell even look at their 2008 video trailer, it looks worse then their first pair of screens.
First off, the ones you are claiming are "touched up" are from 2008.
Second, I see your logic now, so the ones from 2006, which are outdated and worse looking than 2008 ones (go figure) must be the REAL ones, because no game in development could get better graphics as development continues. 2008 screen shots look good, so they must be fake, and you know this of course, cause you've played the game right? Way to lose the argument lol
Way to ignore the video part. The trailer they released late 2008 looks nothing like the pics they released. They look a lot more like the 06 and 07, and thats somewhat of a strech, I think it looks even a little worse then 06 and 07. Maybe you should see this video-
Not only that, recent beta leaks that are brand new posted by ppl with high end comps posted screens that look plain out ugly.
I have seen the video, it looks great, and its only on medium settings. Guess you missed that part.
I just saw those screenshots today.
You really should check out the one with the bow and tell me if you don't think it's ugly.
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Okay so the big issue is Darkfall is that people say it's great when there is nothing to show for it yet these games have even less and yet they are the next best thing?
Can someone say hypocritical?
Actually those games will probably have more, the combat system already looks better than that of Darkfall.
Don't know what the big deal is. I think both games will be pretty awful. Next....
How many korean mmorpg's have you seen that play like that? Probably none.
Remember kids, stereotyping will always come bite you.
As for Darkfall VS TERA, Games like TERA just show how terrible Darkfalls combat really is.
Actually, next gen korean mmorpg's are already way ahead of Darkfalls cute little combat system
This is darkfalls combat system:
www.youtube.com/watch
This is what a real next gen combat system looks like:
www.youtube.com/watch
www.youtube.com/watch
Holy f*cking shit!
That Soul and Blade is looking awesome! The girl finished the guy with a freaking arm bar! As a huge MMA fan that is enough for me to buy the game.
It looks like the future of MMO's is in Korea.
Interesting. And where does this info come from? I haven't found anything that says whether or not the game will be sandbox or linear or some combination.
How many korean sandbox games do you know?
How many korean grind games do you know?
Odds are this is just going to be a reskinned korean grinder.
How many korean mmorpg's have you seen that play like that? Probably none.
Remember kids, stereotyping will always come bite you.
As for Darkfall VS TERA, Games like TERA just show how terrible Darkfalls combat really is.
Actually, next gen korean mmorpg's are already way ahead of Darkfalls cute little combat system
This is darkfalls combat system:
www.youtube.com/watch
This is what a real next gen combat system looks like:
www.youtube.com/watch
www.youtube.com/watch
Both of those clips you linked show arcade style combat. Ugly, clunky, button bashing crap. Not nex-gen combat, insomuch as it is not-last-gen-but-the-gen-before combat in a 3d environment. Think street-fighter or streets of rage in 3d
Both of those clips show advanced mmorpg character movement unlike anything we have ever seen in any mmorpg. What other mmorpg can you first throw a guy away in the air, jump after him, slash him a couple of times, grab him, than throw him right down in his pals while you quickly jump away and launch a volley of arrows as you make your escape from the group? You certainly can't do that in Darkfall.
Darkfalls, ahum "FPS like combat" is about 10 years behind the curve. It's about as basic as twitch based combat can possibly get.
The combat featured in those videos was not "twitch-based" at all. Standing close enough to something so that your sword can reach it when you swing, or your 'grapple-attack' can be activated does not make this game revolutionary in it's combat style.
Darkfalls combat is supposed to be a realistic twitch-based system where you can aim ranged attacks, block incoming attacks and aim melee attacks to some extent. You can't compare some MMO with a combat system similar to something seen in the Devil May Cry series to another MMO with a system more like Oblivion.
They're completely different animals. One is made for a realistic or more simulated approach to combat, while the other is made to look cool when the right combination of buttons are pressed.
Actually it is. You actually have to aim your attack, manually block, and move/roll/jump out of the way, all in real time. Considering that the pace is MUCH faster than that of Darkfall, Continent of the Ninth is more twitch than Darkfall will ever be.
But you're right in comparing it to DMC and Oblivion as DMC's combat has far more depth, skill, and overall quality than that of Oblivion.
And is this game built around a Player versus Player concept? Am I going ot be able to grab another player, throw HIM in the air and then shower him with arrows? I would be confident to think not.
That aside, the combat here is not next generation. Dodging/rolling has already been done, aiming your attack looks as simple as standing in front of your target, and the fast paced hack and slash just seems like any other game.
If you really like your asain style MMO's then that's fine. I personally don't care for them at all. What I'm really trying to point out here is that no matter how hard you try to project about the superiority of TERA's combat system, you're to meet stiff opposition from people who just don't like that kind of system. Afterall, we've seen it all before. Maybe not in an MMO, but all the elements are recycled.
The game has only recently been unveiled, don't know if its build around PVP but considering korean mmorpg's are known for their heavy focus on PVP I wouldn't be surprised.
You're clearly in denial. You can clearly see you have to aim your attack in the video (You did actually watch the video before you commented, right?). You can also see how the Archer takes advantage of the terrain, jumping from cliff to cliff, taking distance in consideration. Saying it's just like any other game is downright ignorant and is an undeniable act of denial.
The reason you meet stiff opposition here is simply because it doesn't have Darkfall slapped on the box. Darkfall fans aren't passionate, they have long passed that stage. It has now become a cult with the only intention is to bash just about everything that isn't Darkfall.
The Hypocricy is also undeniable. For years Darkfall fandrones have been praising Darkfall for having twitch based combat. So here comes another mmorpg which actually does the same just better, and excuses are found to bash it.
It's so sad that it's actually funny.
I just don't see how those videos can be compared at all to what Darkfall is supposed to be? One of the previous posters got it spot on when he said that this game would more likely be competition for Aion.
Comparing apples to oranges never works.
I did indeed watch the video, and I will agree whole-heartedly that the graphics and animations look quite amazing. However, we were debating the combat system were we not? I think it looks like a console-button basher and I'm not for it.
Nothing personal against you, or the game. It's just not my thing, and I'd prefer something more meticulous.
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Okay so the big issue is Darkfall is that people say it's great when there is nothing to show for it yet these games have even less and yet they are the next best thing?
Can someone say hypocritical?
Actually those games will probably have more, the combat system already looks better than that of Darkfall.
Great now how many games look nice from prerendered fight scenes but play terrible once they are released. I can think of more then a few from the last year.
You are making the same assumption that these Darkfall fans are making and it's a joke. Darkfall haters are a joke.
Well, I don't think the Asian MMO's are ready to go AS sandboxxy as Darkfall, but they are producing MUCH higher quality games now.
WIth the licensing of the Unreal Engine 3, they are able to make some fuck*ng beautiful games.
I know that Tera and Blade and Soul are using it, aswell as Mabinogi: Heroes (also using it).
You guys will love this trailer.
ca.youtube.com/watch
Animation = good game AMIRITE?!
Wow, why are you even trying? That darkfall video is from an EARLY build 3+ years ago and you know it. This video is more accurate on what darkfall looks like in motion graphic wise, press High quality http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=XX4jLw5oM1c
It's not often I agree with GameLoading. However, after watching that video you provided the link to, xana, I have to agree with him. DF looks fine until you start moving. I don't think you helped the game's case with that video.
The run animation on that character is *horrid*. There is no rotation in the character's hips when she's running; no movement at all. It's sort of a running waddle. Even when she's strafing.
One thing Blizzard is consistently good with is their animations and, actually, WoW looks its best (imo) when you're in motion.
That said, this is another of those threads that will go nowhere. DF fans will say that whatever DF does is "good, because it's DF" and no matter what you show them in comparison will be "not as good... because it's not DF"... and vice versa for those who don't like DF, of course.
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You should actually check this trailer out.
Maybe more down your alley, if you don't like cutesy little anime.
ca.youtube.com/watch
EDIT : Heres the gameplay video of that.
ca.youtube.com/watch
Nice! Looks like a singleplayer game! Too bad the Darkfall community is looking for the opposite of that.
Can someone please explain to me wtf the OP is doing comparing a game with what appears to have similarities with Devil May Cry's combat to a game which has a combat system similar to Oblivion/Mount & Blade?
Serioudly wtf?
I like all 3 of those games but they are VASTLY different.
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This is why people like you should just stop, think and quit your discussion. You like to play games where you gain items and stats.
Darkfall is not such a game, Darkfall is a platform for clan politics and character development in another fashion than the regular mold, grind xp, grind items rinse and repeat.
Most people don't understand how others might see MMORPG's and why they frown upon games that spoon-feed them and are claustrophobic. MMORPG's should be open and player driven but every other MMORPG is not designed this way so it's impossible, but not Darkfall.
This is why people like you should stop posting on forums. You know which games were also about clan politics? Lineage, Lineage 2, ArchLord, Age of Conan, Dark & light and many, many more.
Just because a game features clan politics doesn't mean the won't be any grind.
You totally misinterpreted what I wrote. You nitpick a word or two take it out of context and ramble on. It seems you do not understand Darkfall and the aspect of a sandbox MMORPG, a true MMORPG where the world is the players to dictate and form not a static landscaped restricted world that only offers you linear gameplay.
I doubt you'll see the foolishness of your urge to debate something that you don't understand or dislike due to ignorance.
A few people likes games where they don't get their hands held, where they aren't restricted, where your action defines you not the gear or levels you grinded. Where there is an overwhelming risk that will keep you on your toes. - So we get a niche game called Darkfall Online, hooray for us!
And it seems the majority likes games that are easy, that have low next to no risks vs rewards, where you can get über equipment to define your character. - That's like 90% or even more of the games out there and currently being developed.
So why the f are so many people "attacking" Darkfall? Are they secretly longing for this kind of game but too afraid to admit it so their insecurity burns some wiring in their brains causing them to attack the source of their agony?
Well, I see there is no point in discussing with you since your mind can't grasp the broader perspective.
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Nice! Looks like a singleplayer game! Too bad the Darkfall community is looking for the opposite of that.
It's the prologue video/mission, so I assume that it means you are by yourself.
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Do you understand the simple fact that the DF crowd could care less about this? They have waited and they are going to play Darkfall. I'm fairly confident I understand this fact, and I'm also confident a three year old could as well.
Feel free to link up as many games as you want. At the end of the day, it simply makes you look like the creepy one who is somehow offended by the fact that DF has such a crazed fan base. If and when you manage to ignore the crowd of fans and just take gaming for what it's worth, I bet you'll find it's better to not start posts like these and just enjoy your hobby.
If it's in response to the arrogant posts from the DF community that makes you feel the need to make this one, tell me, what difference do you have with them now?
Wow, why are you even trying? That darkfall video is from an EARLY build 3+ years ago and you know it. This video is more accurate on what darkfall looks like in motion graphic wise, press High quality http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=XX4jLw5oM1c
It's not often I agree with GameLoading. However, after watching that video you provided the link to, xana, I have to agree with him. DF looks fine until you start moving. I don't think you helped the game's case with that video.
The run animation on that character is *horrid*. There is no rotation in the character's hips when she's running; no movement at all. It's sort of a running waddle. Even when she's strafing.
One thing Blizzard is consistently good with is their animations and, actually, WoW looks its best (imo) when you're in motion.
That said, this is another of those threads that will go nowhere. DF fans will say that whatever DF does is "good, because it's DF" and no matter what you show them in comparison will be "not as good... because it's not DF"... and vice versa for those who don't like DF, of course.
I have to agree here. The way that woman walks is really awefull. Even AoC has better animations than that.
You don't need top notch graphics to display good animation, WoW proves that. The animations is what makes it still look good. Wich says a lot for a dated game like that.
The environment in Darkfall however does look very good.
2 things wrong with your argument.
First of all Darkfall does not look better than World of Warcraft.
Also, World of Warcraft is 4 years old. Darkfall is about to release (we think...). standards are higher today for a new game.
Yeah, World of Warcraft has alot better graphics than Darkfall, just compare these screenshots..
Way to be biased on pic choice...picking a pic of WoW on lowest setting and a pic of DF the devs touched up.
(NONE OF THESE SCREENS ARE MINE)
World of Warcraft (2004 Release)
Darkfall (Est. 2009 release)-
And these are the ones on the official site that are meant to make the game look prettier (warhammer did the samething but the actual game looked ugly as hell). The beta leaks of df look twenty times worse then the ones on the official site. I hate WoW but its insulting to say DF has better graphics than it (Search df beta leaks blogspot in google, I cant post any of the real screens here.)
WoW looks like Shrek the video game, rofl
Darkfall looks more polished imo
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2 things wrong with your argument.
First of all Darkfall does not look better than World of Warcraft.
Also, World of Warcraft is 4 years old. Darkfall is about to release (we think...). standards are higher today for a new game.
Yeah, World of Warcraft has alot better graphics than Darkfall, just compare these screenshots..
Way to be biased on pic choice...picking a pic of WoW on lowest setting and a pic of DF the devs touched up.
(NONE OF THESE SCREENS ARE MINE)
World of Warcraft (2004 Release)
Darkfall (Est. 2009 release)-
And these are the ones on the official site that are meant to make the game look prettier (warhammer did the samething but the actual game looked ugly as hell). The beta leaks of df look twenty times worse then the ones on the official site. I hate WoW but its insulting to say DF has better graphics than it (Search df beta leaks blogspot in google, I cant post any of the real screens here.)
Are serious? If you look at the Darkfall screens you posted they say "2006" and "2007" . You do realise that we live in 2009, right?
2 things wrong with your argument.
First of all Darkfall does not look better than World of Warcraft.
Also, World of Warcraft is 4 years old. Darkfall is about to release (we think...). standards are higher today for a new game.
Yeah, World of Warcraft has alot better graphics than Darkfall, just compare these screenshots..
Way to be biased on pic choice...picking a pic of WoW on lowest setting and a pic of DF the devs touched up.
(NONE OF THESE SCREENS ARE MINE)
World of Warcraft (2004 Release)
Darkfall (Est. 2009 release)-
And these are the ones on the official site that are meant to make the game look prettier (warhammer did the samething but the actual game looked ugly as hell). The beta leaks of df look twenty times worse then the ones on the official site. I hate WoW but its insulting to say DF has better graphics than it (Search df beta leaks blogspot in google, I cant post any of the real screens here.)
Are serious? If you look at the Darkfall screens you posted they say "2006" and "2007" . You do realise that we live in 2009, right?
The 2009 ones are touched up and do not show how the actual game looks. This recent week tons of new screens have been released from beta leakers that look worse then the 2006 ones and they have comps that can run high end games. Hell even look at their 2008 video trailer, it looks worse then their first pair of screens.
2 things wrong with your argument.
First of all Darkfall does not look better than World of Warcraft.
Also, World of Warcraft is 4 years old. Darkfall is about to release (we think...). standards are higher today for a new game.
Yeah, World of Warcraft has alot better graphics than Darkfall, just compare these screenshots..
Way to be biased on pic choice...picking a pic of WoW on lowest setting and a pic of DF the devs touched up.
(NONE OF THESE SCREENS ARE MINE)
World of Warcraft (2004 Release)
Darkfall (Est. 2009 release)-
And these are the ones on the official site that are meant to make the game look prettier (warhammer did the samething but the actual game looked ugly as hell). The beta leaks of df look twenty times worse then the ones on the official site. I hate WoW but its insulting to say DF has better graphics than it (Search df beta leaks blogspot in google, I cant post any of the real screens here.)
Are serious? If you look at the Darkfall screens you posted they say "2006" and "2007" . You do realise that we live in 2009, right?
The 2009 ones are touched up and do not show how the actual game looks. This recent week tons of new screens have been released from beta leakers that look worse then the 2006 ones and they have comps that can run high end games. Hell even look at their 2008 video trailer, it looks worse then their first pair of screens.
First off, the ones you are claiming are "touched up" are from 2008.
Second, I see your logic now, so the ones from 2006, which are outdated and worse looking than 2008 ones (go figure) must be the REAL ones, because no game in development could get better graphics as development continues. 2008 screen shots look good, so they must be fake, and you know this of course, cause you've played the game right? Way to lose the argument lol
Darkfall Travelogues!
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and i thought you were talking about a real game
nvm ... just another lightsandcolorseyecandygameforkids
2 things wrong with your argument.
First of all Darkfall does not look better than World of Warcraft.
Also, World of Warcraft is 4 years old. Darkfall is about to release (we think...). standards are higher today for a new game.
Yeah, World of Warcraft has alot better graphics than Darkfall, just compare these screenshots..
Way to be biased on pic choice...picking a pic of WoW on lowest setting and a pic of DF the devs touched up.
(NONE OF THESE SCREENS ARE MINE)
World of Warcraft (2004 Release)
Darkfall (Est. 2009 release)-
And these are the ones on the official site that are meant to make the game look prettier (warhammer did the samething but the actual game looked ugly as hell). The beta leaks of df look twenty times worse then the ones on the official site. I hate WoW but its insulting to say DF has better graphics than it (Search df beta leaks blogspot in google, I cant post any of the real screens here.)
Are serious? If you look at the Darkfall screens you posted they say "2006" and "2007" . You do realise that we live in 2009, right?
The 2009 ones are touched up and do not show how the actual game looks. This recent week tons of new screens have been released from beta leakers that look worse then the 2006 ones and they have comps that can run high end games. Hell even look at their 2008 video trailer, it looks worse then their first pair of screens.
First off, the ones you are claiming are "touched up" are from 2008.
Second, I see your logic now, so the ones from 2006, which are outdated and worse looking than 2008 ones (go figure) must be the REAL ones, because no game in development could get better graphics as development continues. 2008 screen shots look good, so they must be fake, and you know this of course, cause you've played the game right? Way to lose the argument lol
Way to ignore the video part. The trailer they released late 2008 looks nothing like the pics they released. They look a lot more like the 06 and 07, and thats somewhat of a strech, I think it looks even a little worse then 06 and 07. Maybe you should see this video-
Not only that, recent beta leaks that are brand new posted by ppl with high end comps posted screens that look plain out ugly. I could understand complimenting DFs features and etc... but the graphics are by far the ugliest ive seen for a possible 09 pay to play mmo. It would be considered ugly even in earlier years.
2 things wrong with your argument.
First of all Darkfall does not look better than World of Warcraft.
Also, World of Warcraft is 4 years old. Darkfall is about to release (we think...). standards are higher today for a new game.
Yeah, World of Warcraft has alot better graphics than Darkfall, just compare these screenshots..
Way to be biased on pic choice...picking a pic of WoW on lowest setting and a pic of DF the devs touched up.
(NONE OF THESE SCREENS ARE MINE)
World of Warcraft (2004 Release)
Darkfall (Est. 2009 release)-
And these are the ones on the official site that are meant to make the game look prettier (warhammer did the samething but the actual game looked ugly as hell). The beta leaks of df look twenty times worse then the ones on the official site. I hate WoW but its insulting to say DF has better graphics than it (Search df beta leaks blogspot in google, I cant post any of the real screens here.)
Are serious? If you look at the Darkfall screens you posted they say "2006" and "2007" . You do realise that we live in 2009, right?
The 2009 ones are touched up and do not show how the actual game looks. This recent week tons of new screens have been released from beta leakers that look worse then the 2006 ones and they have comps that can run high end games. Hell even look at their 2008 video trailer, it looks worse then their first pair of screens.
First off, the ones you are claiming are "touched up" are from 2008.
Second, I see your logic now, so the ones from 2006, which are outdated and worse looking than 2008 ones (go figure) must be the REAL ones, because no game in development could get better graphics as development continues. 2008 screen shots look good, so they must be fake, and you know this of course, cause you've played the game right? Way to lose the argument lol
Way to ignore the video part. The trailer they released late 2008 looks nothing like the pics they released. They look a lot more like the 06 and 07, and thats somewhat of a strech, I think it looks even a little worse then 06 and 07. Maybe you should see this video-
Not only that, recent beta leaks that are brand new posted by ppl with high end comps posted screens that look plain out ugly.
I have seen the video, it looks great, and its only on medium settings. Guess you missed that part.
Darkfall Travelogues!
2 things wrong with your argument.
First of all Darkfall does not look better than World of Warcraft.
Also, World of Warcraft is 4 years old. Darkfall is about to release (we think...). standards are higher today for a new game.
Yeah, World of Warcraft has alot better graphics than Darkfall, just compare these screenshots..
Way to be biased on pic choice...picking a pic of WoW on lowest setting and a pic of DF the devs touched up.
(NONE OF THESE SCREENS ARE MINE)
World of Warcraft (2004 Release)
Darkfall (Est. 2009 release)-
And these are the ones on the official site that are meant to make the game look prettier (warhammer did the samething but the actual game looked ugly as hell). The beta leaks of df look twenty times worse then the ones on the official site. I hate WoW but its insulting to say DF has better graphics than it (Search df beta leaks blogspot in google, I cant post any of the real screens here.)
Are serious? If you look at the Darkfall screens you posted they say "2006" and "2007" . You do realise that we live in 2009, right?
The 2009 ones are touched up and do not show how the actual game looks. This recent week tons of new screens have been released from beta leakers that look worse then the 2006 ones and they have comps that can run high end games. Hell even look at their 2008 video trailer, it looks worse then their first pair of screens.
First off, the ones you are claiming are "touched up" are from 2008.
Second, I see your logic now, so the ones from 2006, which are outdated and worse looking than 2008 ones (go figure) must be the REAL ones, because no game in development could get better graphics as development continues. 2008 screen shots look good, so they must be fake, and you know this of course, cause you've played the game right? Way to lose the argument lol
Way to ignore the video part. The trailer they released late 2008 looks nothing like the pics they released. They look a lot more like the 06 and 07, and thats somewhat of a strech, I think it looks even a little worse then 06 and 07. Maybe you should see this video-
Not only that, recent beta leaks that are brand new posted by ppl with high end comps posted screens that look plain out ugly.
I have seen the video, it looks great, and its only on medium settings. Guess you missed that part.
I just saw those screenshots today.
You really should check out the one with the bow and tell me if you don't think it's ugly.
They really should get some AA.