WOW! The carebears are quick to cry and blame. You dont want to be pvp'd, dont roll on a pvp server or play a game that encourages it.
Right, because if you can do something, you should. Stupid unethical ass you are. Take some ethics classes, learn to live with other humans. I only say this because I know your character here translates into your asshatsness in real life. You are the type of person I serve swift justice to when you piss me off in the real world.
Another, #43485, example of a person who can tell the difference between real world and virtual gaming.
I could use this thread for a true psychological study of internet addicts who have a problem with telling a difference between pixles and reality!
Haha, way to miss the point. Reading comprehension is not your strong point, so I'll break it down for you. Actors are better at playing roles that suit them, as stated by actors. Professionals are better at their jobs if they connect with/love what they do. Why, then, do you find it so hard to stretch that people act a certain way in a video game because they identify, to an extent, with a character they play or a certain behavior in a game? You do things in games because you want to. You grief because you enjoy it, it BRINGS YOU JOY. Why? Because you like to know that you are inconveniencing another person, punishing them by taking their items, and making them have to re-do work. I am not talking about PvP, but griefing. HUGE difference. If you can't see it, then you will not understand anything I have said. I love PvP, but griefing is below me. I do not feel a desire to consistently harass another HUMAN behind that character. You don't understand, but I wish you did.
Then you fail as a so called "actor" by playing a role of a carebear who hates losing his items and being griefed/pk'ed by another player. If you don't like your role in a particular film, don't play that role. Don't be in a film which doesn't suite your playstyle, just as you said. Therefor, don't play a game which has game mechanics which don't suite your gameplay, your role.
The website sounds amusing. Hope you realize though that DF won't survive on a griefer community...Not that it ever really mattered to you types, but hey, don't come complaining here on the forums when they change it like they did UO. (If it survives that long...)
And if I do happen to pick up the game, I'll be more than happy to wipe the floor with three or four of you at a time.
The website sounds amusing. Hope you realize though that DF won't survive on a griefer community...Not that it ever really mattered to you types, but hey, don't come complaining here on the forums when they change it like they did UO. (If it survives that long...) Did I ever say the game is supposed to survive solely on griefers, which you confuse with PKers like me? Do you realize that many clans which you'd consider have entire PvE divisions dedicated to crafting who never PvP? And if I do happen to pick up the game, I'll be more than happy to wipe the floor with three or four of you at a time. You do that!
The website sounds amusing. Hope you realize though that DF won't survive on a griefer community...Not that it ever really mattered to you types, but hey, don't come complaining here on the forums when they change it like they did UO. (If it survives that long...) Did I ever say the game is supposed to survive solely on griefers, which you confuse with PKers like me? Do you realize that many clans which you'd consider have entire PvE divisions dedicated to crafting who never PvP? And if I do happen to pick up the game, I'll be more than happy to wipe the floor with three or four of you at a time. You do that!
/sigh
ok then by saying we confuse greifer, with pk makes me wonder why you named your website "thegreifer" ... because if you claim to be a pk then why name yourself as a much harsher term?
The website sounds amusing. Hope you realize though that DF won't survive on a griefer community...Not that it ever really mattered to you types, but hey, don't come complaining here on the forums when they change it like they did UO. (If it survives that long...) And if I do happen to pick up the game, I'll be more than happy to wipe the floor with three or four of you at a time.
How very true, I always think it ironic to see old UO players complain that Trammel ruined the game but in essence it was the griefing and overly abusive nature of the existing players in UO before Trammel that forced this move to bring in new players who where constantly put off joining the game, if the PK community had given a little and been more forgiving of new players and been less anal retentive about thier right to do anything to ruin a players gaming experience then Trammel may not have happend but as it was the game wasn't gaining any new subscriptions until Trammel came about, love it or hate it it all boils down to the stubborn attitude of the griefers that brought this change to the game and it could so easily happen to Darkfall if subs start to stagnate and then decline due to new players being put off entering such a harsh enviroment, not due to the game but due to the community and again the community will scream and kick when changes are made that make it easier for carebears to enter the game thus altering the game forever, until perhaps the game also offers it's own version of Trammel thus taking away all those lovely fresh bodies for the griefers and pk's to abuse, what a shame that would be.
Hello all! Recently me and a group of friends started working on a community website for typical PvP/PK/Griefer assholes and gentlemen. The goal of the website is provide a neutral community for the PvP gurus, griefing assholes, and clan organizations representing such people. We won't be focusing on any particular game, we want this place to become a piss and bragging fest for all PvPers across all games. Along with the forums, we'll cover and review all major MMO PvP game titles through our main website and personal blogs. Currently we are looking for a number of staff volunteers to help us get this project on the feet. To make it all simple and neat, the forums will be using SMF forums and the core site will be managed through Joomla CMS. We find both systems simple, clean and easy to customize and mod. If you'd like to join the team, PM me, and let me know what you can contribute. We need people with abilities to skin the Joomla/SMF parts, customize the website and proficiently write articles. The only thing we require is that you clearly have a PvP/PK history, and are not afraid of very minimally moderated community. Seeing how this game turns out, we could add some specific Darkfall related forums and let it become a perfect alternative to the moderated Official Clan forums.
If you are interested, PM me here or register and contact me at the forums.
www.TheGriefer.net
It's cute.. all of the douche bags are trying to congregate so they have friends to play with.. *hugs*
Quick!! Dismiss me as some carebear!! Before your friends see you trying to "get together"..
Hello all! Recently me and a group of friends started working on a community website for typical PvP/PK/Griefer assholes and gentlemen. The goal of the website is provide a neutral community for the PvP gurus, griefing assholes, and clan organizations representing such people. We won't be focusing on any particular game, we want this place to become a piss and bragging fest for all PvPers across all games. Along with the forums, we'll cover and review all major MMO PvP game titles through our main website and personal blogs. Currently we are looking for a number of staff volunteers to help us get this project on the feet. To make it all simple and neat, the forums will be using SMF forums and the core site will be managed through Joomla CMS. We find both systems simple, clean and easy to customize and mod. If you'd like to join the team, PM me, and let me know what you can contribute. We need people with abilities to skin the Joomla/SMF parts, customize the website and proficiently write articles. The only thing we require is that you clearly have a PvP/PK history, and are not afraid of very minimally moderated community. Seeing how this game turns out, we could add some specific Darkfall related forums and let it become a perfect alternative to the moderated Official Clan forums.
If you are interested, PM me here or register and contact me at the forums.
www.TheGriefer.net
It's cute.. all of the douche bags are trying to congregate so they have friends to play with.. *hugs*
Quick!! Dismiss me as some carebear!! Before your friends see you trying to "get together"..
The website sounds amusing. Hope you realize though that DF won't survive on a griefer community...Not that it ever really mattered to you types, but hey, don't come complaining here on the forums when they change it like they did UO. (If it survives that long...) And if I do happen to pick up the game, I'll be more than happy to wipe the floor with three or four of you at a time.
How very true, I always think it ironic to see old UO players complain that Trammel ruined the game but in essence it was the griefing and overly abusive nature of the existing players in UO before Trammel that forced this move to bring in new players who where constantly put off joining the game, if the PK community had given a little and been more forgiving of new players and been less anal retentive about thier right to do anything to ruin a players gaming experience then Trammel may not have happend but as it was the game wasn't gaining any new subscriptions until Trammel came about, love it or hate it it all boils down to the stubborn attitude of the griefers that brought this change to the game and it could so easily happen to Darkfall if subs start to stagnate and then decline due to new players being put off entering such a harsh enviroment, not due to the game but due to the community and again the community will scream and kick when changes are made that make it easier for carebears to enter the game thus altering the game forever, until perhaps the game also offers it's own version of Trammel thus taking away all those lovely fresh bodies for the griefers and pk's to abuse, what a shame that would be.
The website sounds amusing. Hope you realize though that DF won't survive on a griefer community...Not that it ever really mattered to you types, but hey, don't come complaining here on the forums when they change it like they did UO. (If it survives that long...) And if I do happen to pick up the game, I'll be more than happy to wipe the floor with three or four of you at a time.
How very true, I always think it ironic to see old UO players complain that Trammel ruined the game but in essence it was the griefing and overly abusive nature of the existing players in UO before Trammel that forced this move to bring in new players who where constantly put off joining the game, if the PK community had given a little and been more forgiving of new players and been less anal retentive about thier right to do anything to ruin a players gaming experience then Trammel may not have happend but as it was the game wasn't gaining any new subscriptions until Trammel came about, love it or hate it it all boils down to the stubborn attitude of the griefers that brought this change to the game and it could so easily happen to Darkfall if subs start to stagnate and then decline due to new players being put off entering such a harsh enviroment, not due to the game but due to the community and again the community will scream and kick when changes are made that make it easier for carebears to enter the game thus altering the game forever, until perhaps the game also offers it's own version of Trammel thus taking away all those lovely fresh bodies for the griefers and pk's to abuse, what a shame that would be.
Ever heard of periods?
There was me thinking your talking about womens periods and then it dawned on me, ah ofc the guy is american and I'm a brit so didn't understand your comment immediately and is talking about full stops and comma's.
Aye should definately put a few in but I was talking to my kids and wife as I was writing so I got carried away.
I still remember my first experience in UO before Trammel, "Excuse me could you tell me where the bank is" answer from some knight all in black "FUCK OFF" my answer "ok!!" and I thought to myself hmmm is this going to be the norm and surprisingly it was, few months later Trammel came about and I moved and enjoyed the game without having my game time ruined with griefers.
The website sounds amusing. Hope you realize though that DF won't survive on a griefer community...Not that it ever really mattered to you types, but hey, don't come complaining here on the forums when they change it like they did UO. (If it survives that long...) And if I do happen to pick up the game, I'll be more than happy to wipe the floor with three or four of you at a time.
How very true, I always think it ironic to see old UO players complain that Trammel ruined the game but in essence it was the griefing and overly abusive nature of the existing players in UO before Trammel that forced this move to bring in new players who where constantly put off joining the game, if the PK community had given a little and been more forgiving of new players and been less anal retentive about thier right to do anything to ruin a players gaming experience then Trammel may not have happend but as it was the game wasn't gaining any new subscriptions until Trammel came about, love it or hate it it all boils down to the stubborn attitude of the griefers that brought this change to the game and it could so easily happen to Darkfall if subs start to stagnate and then decline due to new players being put off entering such a harsh enviroment, not due to the game but due to the community and again the community will scream and kick when changes are made that make it easier for carebears to enter the game thus altering the game forever, until perhaps the game also offers it's own version of Trammel thus taking away all those lovely fresh bodies for the griefers and pk's to abuse, what a shame that would be.
Ever heard of periods?
There was me thinking your talking about womens periods and then it dawned on me, ah ofc the guy is american and I'm a brit so didn't understand your comment immediately and is talking about full stops and comma's.
Aye should definately put a few in but I was talking to my kids and wife as I was writing so I got carried away.
I still remember my first experience in UO before Trammel, "Excuse me could you tell me where the bank is" answer from some knight all in black "FUCK OFF" my answer "ok!!" and I thought to myself hmmm is this going to be the norm and surprisingly it was, few months later Trammel came about and I moved and enjoyed the game without having my game time ruined with griefers.
Damn! You have some low standards for griefing if you considered a guy telling you to "F OFF" a griefer! I doubt trammel change much for you in that case heh.
Updated:
We currently working on Column section. If any of you would be interested, we are looking for a few starting columnists. Overall, the articles should be MMO/PvP oriented. If any of you would like to have a personal article column on our website, register and PM Nefastus your starting starting article. It doesn't have to be an MMO/PvP topic specific, since it will be your introduction. You can write about yourself as a douchebag and gamer and what your column and articles will be about, in general.
We'll review the articles and give you the answer. If it looks promising, you'll have your own column.
The website sounds amusing. Hope you realize though that DF won't survive on a griefer community...Not that it ever really mattered to you types, but hey, don't come complaining here on the forums when they change it like they did UO. (If it survives that long...) And if I do happen to pick up the game, I'll be more than happy to wipe the floor with three or four of you at a time.
How very true, I always think it ironic to see old UO players complain that Trammel ruined the game but in essence it was the griefing and overly abusive nature of the existing players in UO before Trammel that forced this move to bring in new players who where constantly put off joining the game, if the PK community had given a little and been more forgiving of new players and been less anal retentive about thier right to do anything to ruin a players gaming experience then Trammel may not have happend but as it was the game wasn't gaining any new subscriptions until Trammel came about, love it or hate it it all boils down to the stubborn attitude of the griefers that brought this change to the game and it could so easily happen to Darkfall if subs start to stagnate and then decline due to new players being put off entering such a harsh enviroment, not due to the game but due to the community and again the community will scream and kick when changes are made that make it easier for carebears to enter the game thus altering the game forever, until perhaps the game also offers it's own version of Trammel thus taking away all those lovely fresh bodies for the griefers and pk's to abuse, what a shame that would be.
Ever heard of periods?
There was me thinking your talking about womens periods and then it dawned on me, ah ofc the guy is american and I'm a brit so didn't understand your comment immediately and is talking about full stops and comma's.
Aye should definately put a few in but I was talking to my kids and wife as I was writing so I got carried away.
I still remember my first experience in UO before Trammel, "Excuse me could you tell me where the bank is" answer from some knight all in black "FUCK OFF" my answer "ok!!" and I thought to myself hmmm is this going to be the norm and surprisingly it was, few months later Trammel came about and I moved and enjoyed the game without having my game time ruined with griefers.
Damn! You have some low standards for griefing if you considered a guy telling you to "F OFF" a griefer! I doubt trammel change much for you in that case heh.
Updated:
We currently working on Column section. If any of you would be interested, we are looking for a few starting columnists. Overall, the articles should be MMO/PvP oriented. If any of you would like to have a personal article column on our website, register and PM Nefastus your starting starting article. It doesn't have to be an MMO/PvP topic specific, since it will be your introduction. You can write about yourself as a douchebag and gamer and what your column and articles will be about, in general.
We'll review the articles and give you the answer. If it looks promising, you'll have your own column.
{ Mod Edit }
Column....how appropriately phallic.
Kind of sums up the whole idea really.
'Want to act like a dick? Come and check out our column....it's hyooooooooge!!'
The website sounds amusing. Hope you realize though that DF won't survive on a griefer community...Not that it ever really mattered to you types, but hey, don't come complaining here on the forums when they change it like they did UO. (If it survives that long...) And if I do happen to pick up the game, I'll be more than happy to wipe the floor with three or four of you at a time.
How very true, I always think it ironic to see old UO players complain that Trammel ruined the game but in essence it was the griefing and overly abusive nature of the existing players in UO before Trammel that forced this move to bring in new players who where constantly put off joining the game, if the PK community had given a little and been more forgiving of new players and been less anal retentive about thier right to do anything to ruin a players gaming experience then Trammel may not have happend but as it was the game wasn't gaining any new subscriptions until Trammel came about, love it or hate it it all boils down to the stubborn attitude of the griefers that brought this change to the game and it could so easily happen to Darkfall if subs start to stagnate and then decline due to new players being put off entering such a harsh enviroment, not due to the game but due to the community and again the community will scream and kick when changes are made that make it easier for carebears to enter the game thus altering the game forever, until perhaps the game also offers it's own version of Trammel thus taking away all those lovely fresh bodies for the griefers and pk's to abuse, what a shame that would be.
Ever heard of periods?
There was me thinking your talking about womens periods and then it dawned on me, ah ofc the guy is american and I'm a brit so didn't understand your comment immediately and is talking about full stops and comma's.
Aye should definately put a few in but I was talking to my kids and wife as I was writing so I got carried away.
I still remember my first experience in UO before Trammel, "Excuse me could you tell me where the bank is" answer from some knight all in black "FUCK OFF" my answer "ok!!" and I thought to myself hmmm is this going to be the norm and surprisingly it was, few months later Trammel came about and I moved and enjoyed the game without having my game time ruined with griefers.
Damn! You have some low standards for griefing if you considered a guy telling you to "F OFF" a griefer! I doubt trammel change much for you in that case heh.
Updated:
We currently working on Column section. If any of you would be interested, we are looking for a few starting columnists. Overall, the articles should be MMO/PvP oriented. If any of you would like to have a personal article column on our website, register and PM Nefastus your starting starting article. It doesn't have to be an MMO/PvP topic specific, since it will be your introduction. You can write about yourself as a douchebag and gamer and what your column and articles will be about, in general.
We'll review the articles and give you the answer. If it looks promising, you'll have your own column.
{ Mod Edit }
Column....how appropriately phallic.
Kind of sums up the whole idea really.
'Want to act like a dick? Come and check out our column....it's hyooooooooge!!'
Yes, so we can have people write articles about how much they made you cry on the internet
The website sounds amusing. Hope you realize though that DF won't survive on a griefer community...Not that it ever really mattered to you types, but hey, don't come complaining here on the forums when they change it like they did UO. (If it survives that long...) And if I do happen to pick up the game, I'll be more than happy to wipe the floor with three or four of you at a time.
How very true, I always think it ironic to see old UO players complain that Trammel ruined the game but in essence it was the griefing and overly abusive nature of the existing players in UO before Trammel that forced this move to bring in new players who where constantly put off joining the game, if the PK community had given a little and been more forgiving of new players and been less anal retentive about thier right to do anything to ruin a players gaming experience then Trammel may not have happend but as it was the game wasn't gaining any new subscriptions until Trammel came about, love it or hate it it all boils down to the stubborn attitude of the griefers that brought this change to the game and it could so easily happen to Darkfall if subs start to stagnate and then decline due to new players being put off entering such a harsh enviroment, not due to the game but due to the community and again the community will scream and kick when changes are made that make it easier for carebears to enter the game thus altering the game forever, until perhaps the game also offers it's own version of Trammel thus taking away all those lovely fresh bodies for the griefers and pk's to abuse, what a shame that would be.
Ever heard of periods?
There was me thinking your talking about womens periods and then it dawned on me, ah ofc the guy is american and I'm a brit so didn't understand your comment immediately and is talking about full stops and comma's.
Aye should definately put a few in but I was talking to my kids and wife as I was writing so I got carried away.
I still remember my first experience in UO before Trammel, "Excuse me could you tell me where the bank is" answer from some knight all in black "FUCK OFF" my answer "ok!!" and I thought to myself hmmm is this going to be the norm and surprisingly it was, few months later Trammel came about and I moved and enjoyed the game without having my game time ruined with griefers.
Damn! You have some low standards for griefing if you considered a guy telling you to "F OFF" a griefer! I doubt trammel change much for you in that case heh.
Updated:
We currently working on Column section. If any of you would be interested, we are looking for a few starting columnists. Overall, the articles should be MMO/PvP oriented. If any of you would like to have a personal article column on our website, register and PM Nefastus your starting starting article. It doesn't have to be an MMO/PvP topic specific, since it will be your introduction. You can write about yourself as a douchebag and gamer and what your column and articles will be about, in general.
We'll review the articles and give you the answer. If it looks promising, you'll have your own column.
{ Mod Edit }
Column....how appropriately phallic.
Kind of sums up the whole idea really.
'Want to act like a dick? Come and check out our column....it's hyooooooooge!!'
Yes, so we can have people write articles about how much they made you cry on the internet
I would only shed a tear for the sad state of humanity as represented here.
They say most abusers do so because they were abused themselves...show us on the doll where the world touched you...
So your the type of person that makes developers change games like UO back in the day. You enjoy making a newbies life miserable to stroke your own pathetic ego. Your kind will also be responsible when Darkfall is changed like UO was. It was exactly this type of mentality that caused a max exodus of players from UO and the only way to bring them back was for EA/Origin to make different realms so people were not griefed.
Ditto for Shadowbane...
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
The website sounds amusing. Hope you realize though that DF won't survive on a griefer community...Not that it ever really mattered to you types, but hey, don't come complaining here on the forums when they change it like they did UO. (If it survives that long...) And if I do happen to pick up the game, I'll be more than happy to wipe the floor with three or four of you at a time.
How very true, I always think it ironic to see old UO players complain that Trammel ruined the game but in essence it was the griefing and overly abusive nature of the existing players in UO before Trammel that forced this move to bring in new players who where constantly put off joining the game, if the PK community had given a little and been more forgiving of new players and been less anal retentive about thier right to do anything to ruin a players gaming experience then Trammel may not have happend but as it was the game wasn't gaining any new subscriptions until Trammel came about, love it or hate it it all boils down to the stubborn attitude of the griefers that brought this change to the game and it could so easily happen to Darkfall if subs start to stagnate and then decline due to new players being put off entering such a harsh enviroment, not due to the game but due to the community and again the community will scream and kick when changes are made that make it easier for carebears to enter the game thus altering the game forever, until perhaps the game also offers it's own version of Trammel thus taking away all those lovely fresh bodies for the griefers and pk's to abuse, what a shame that would be.
Ever heard of periods?
There was me thinking your talking about womens periods and then it dawned on me, ah ofc the guy is american and I'm a brit so didn't understand your comment immediately and is talking about full stops and comma's.
Aye should definately put a few in but I was talking to my kids and wife as I was writing so I got carried away.
I still remember my first experience in UO before Trammel, "Excuse me could you tell me where the bank is" answer from some knight all in black "FUCK OFF" my answer "ok!!" and I thought to myself hmmm is this going to be the norm and surprisingly it was, few months later Trammel came about and I moved and enjoyed the game without having my game time ruined with griefers.
Damn! You have some low standards for griefing if you considered a guy telling you to "F OFF" a griefer! I doubt trammel change much for you in that case heh.
Updated:
We currently working on Column section. If any of you would be interested, we are looking for a few starting columnists. Overall, the articles should be MMO/PvP oriented. If any of you would like to have a personal article column on our website, register and PM Nefastus your starting starting article. It doesn't have to be an MMO/PvP topic specific, since it will be your introduction. You can write about yourself as a douchebag and gamer and what your column and articles will be about, in general.
We'll review the articles and give you the answer. If it looks promising, you'll have your own column.
{ Mod Edit }
Column....how appropriately phallic.
Kind of sums up the whole idea really.
'Want to act like a dick? Come and check out our column....it's hyooooooooge!!'
Yes, so we can have people write articles about how much they made you cry on the internet
I would only shed a tear for the sad state of humanity as represented here.
They say most abusers do so because they were abused themselves...show us on the doll where the world touched you...
Haha, I'm not the one feeling victimized on the internet. Stop trying to put on me what you have and clearly continue to endure, feeling of being abused. Losing touch with reality? lol.
To whatever moderator edited my posted, you should as well edit the post I quoted since it also contains the "F OFF" (as you neatly edited my post) part. Do your fully please
Haha, I'm not the one feeling victimized on the internet. Stop trying to put on me what you have and clearly continue to endure, feeling of being abused. Losing touch with reality? lol.
To whatever moderator edited my posted, you should as well edit the post I quoted since it also contains the "F OFF" (as you neatly edited my post) part. Do your fully please
You'd like to think so wouldn't you, but I'm afraid that speaks more of you than of me.
However, as a parent, I worry about the society my children are growing up in when behaviour, such as you are advertising here, is considered acceptible. The advancing decline of parental and personal responsibility has a lot to answer for.
In the UK there's currently a big initiative on in schools to combat cyber-bullying and as far as I can see, this is just that. Perhaps you should take a look at yourself for a moment and wonder why you think its okay to prey on people? I'd be really interested to know what you find.
Haha, I'm not the one feeling victimized on the internet. Stop trying to put on me what you have and clearly continue to endure, feeling of being abused. Losing touch with reality? lol.
To whatever moderator edited my posted, you should as well edit the post I quoted since it also contains the "F OFF" (as you neatly edited my post) part. Do your fully please
You'd like to think so wouldn't you, but I'm afraid that speaks more of you than of me.
However, as a parent, I worry about the society my children are growing up in when behaviour, such as you are advertising here, is considered acceptible. The advancing decline of parental and personal responsibility has a lot to answer for.
In the UK there's currently a big initiative on in schools to combat cyber-bullying and as far as I can see, this is just that. Perhaps you should take a look at yourself for a moment and wonder why you think its okay to prey on people? I'd be really interested to know what you find.
Perhaps you should spend more time parenting and less than crying on internet forums about how someone has hurt your or someone else feelings in a virtual game? What if your child reads this forum and sees how much of a cry baby you are? What kind of a damn irresponsible and weak parent are you! I'd feel ashamed if I was your child. SHAME ON YOU!
There would be no issues such as internet bullying or so called "griefing" if parents would spend more time getting their children involved in real life social environments. That way they'd not get so involved in abstract internet bullshit and have it confused with things that matter, which is real social relationships and not some nobody online avatar they have never met and probably never will. The fault lies in parents, not the internet bullying. Teach and encourage your children to be social and active in real life and they won't feel like some nobody TEXT person on the internet is hurting their feelings.
There are some really sad, fucked up individuals in the world so I think this site is a good idea.
With new laws that are being discussed you might just have a large enough membership that the government can find you all and get you off the streets and into a jail or simply ban you from the internet for being fucktards.
Anyone that thinks like this needs serious help. Shame you hide behind a screen and don't have the balls to act like this in public and face a good old face pound for being so retarded.
There are some really sad, fucked up individuals in the world so I think this site is a good idea. With new laws that are being discussed you might just have a large enough membership that the government can find you all and get you off the streets and into a jail or simply ban you from the internet for being fucktards. Anyone that thinks like this needs serious help. Shame you hide behind a screen and don't have the balls to act like this in public and face a good old face pound for being so retarded.
Haha, I'm not the one feeling victimized on the internet. Stop trying to put on me what you have and clearly continue to endure, feeling of being abused. Losing touch with reality? lol.
To whatever moderator edited my posted, you should as well edit the post I quoted since it also contains the "F OFF" (as you neatly edited my post) part. Do your fully please
You'd like to think so wouldn't you, but I'm afraid that speaks more of you than of me.
However, as a parent, I worry about the society my children are growing up in when behaviour, such as you are advertising here, is considered acceptible. The advancing decline of parental and personal responsibility has a lot to answer for.
In the UK there's currently a big initiative on in schools to combat cyber-bullying and as far as I can see, this is just that. Perhaps you should take a look at yourself for a moment and wonder why you think its okay to prey on people? I'd be really interested to know what you find.
Perhaps you should spend more time parenting and less than crying on internet forums about how someone has hurt your or someone else feelings in a virtual game? What if your child reads this forum and sees how much of a cry baby you are? What kind of a damn irresponsible and weak parent are you! I'd feel ashamed if I was your child. SHAME ON YOU!
There would be no issues such as internet bullying or so called "griefing" if parents would spend more time getting their children involved in real life social environments. That way they'd not get so involved in abstract internet bullshit and have it confused with things that matter, which is real social relationships and not some nobody online avatar they have never met and probably never will. The fault lies in parents, not the internet bullying. Teach and encourage your children to be social and active in real life and they won't feel like some nobody TEXT person on the internet is hurting their feelings.
Thanks for a bump
The fault lies in us all, no finger pointing because thats the easy way out "It's their fault not mine" is not the response.
Haha, I'm not the one feeling victimized on the internet. Stop trying to put on me what you have and clearly continue to endure, feeling of being abused. Losing touch with reality? lol.
To whatever moderator edited my posted, you should as well edit the post I quoted since it also contains the "F OFF" (as you neatly edited my post) part. Do your fully please
You'd like to think so wouldn't you, but I'm afraid that speaks more of you than of me.
However, as a parent, I worry about the society my children are growing up in when behaviour, such as you are advertising here, is considered acceptible. The advancing decline of parental and personal responsibility has a lot to answer for.
In the UK there's currently a big initiative on in schools to combat cyber-bullying and as far as I can see, this is just that. Perhaps you should take a look at yourself for a moment and wonder why you think its okay to prey on people? I'd be really interested to know what you find.
Perhaps you should spend more time parenting and less than crying on internet forums about how someone has hurt your or someone else feelings in a virtual game? What if your child reads this forum and sees how much of a cry baby you are? What kind of a damn irresponsible and weak parent are you! I'd feel ashamed if I was your child. SHAME ON YOU!
Thanks for a bump
You're welcome.
After all, with every post you make in reply, you're making my point stronger.
Now that you're resorting to personal attacks it becomes obvious that you have no logical defence of your position.
As for me being weak and irresponsible? Well, I'm not the one that lacks the strength of character to moderate my own conduct. Am I irresponsible for pointing out that what you're doing is socially unacceptible? I'd say not, quite the opposite in fact, I'm stepping up to face what I perceive as a problem within the community...to do otherwise would be a failiure on my part. As such, I'd be quite happy for my kids to see what I've tried to do here, other than the fact that as a responsible parent I wouldn't expose them to this forum and to people like yourself.
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Right, because if you can do something, you should. Stupid unethical ass you are. Take some ethics classes, learn to live with other humans. I only say this because I know your character here translates into your asshatsness in real life. You are the type of person I serve swift justice to when you piss me off in the real world.
Another, #43485, example of a person who can tell the difference between real world and virtual gaming.
I could use this thread for a true psychological study of internet addicts who have a problem with telling a difference between pixles and reality!
Haha, way to miss the point. Reading comprehension is not your strong point, so I'll break it down for you. Actors are better at playing roles that suit them, as stated by actors. Professionals are better at their jobs if they connect with/love what they do. Why, then, do you find it so hard to stretch that people act a certain way in a video game because they identify, to an extent, with a character they play or a certain behavior in a game? You do things in games because you want to. You grief because you enjoy it, it BRINGS YOU JOY. Why? Because you like to know that you are inconveniencing another person, punishing them by taking their items, and making them have to re-do work. I am not talking about PvP, but griefing. HUGE difference. If you can't see it, then you will not understand anything I have said. I love PvP, but griefing is below me. I do not feel a desire to consistently harass another HUMAN behind that character. You don't understand, but I wish you did.
Then you fail as a so called "actor" by playing a role of a carebear who hates losing his items and being griefed/pk'ed by another player. If you don't like your role in a particular film, don't play that role. Don't be in a film which doesn't suite your playstyle, just as you said. Therefor, don't play a game which has game mechanics which don't suite your gameplay, your role.
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Well, not /thread, continue the hilarious bumpage
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Here's a bump for the person who's mom never loved them. BTW, it's Pixels not pixles. I bet that website is going to be stellar
-Almerel
Hello my old friend.
My mom loves me a lot!!! Thanks for a bump though and your obvious support!
I'm sorry I miss spelled pixels, I never put much thought into that!
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The website sounds amusing. Hope you realize though that DF won't survive on a griefer community...Not that it ever really mattered to you types, but hey, don't come complaining here on the forums when they change it like they did UO. (If it survives that long...)
And if I do happen to pick up the game, I'll be more than happy to wipe the floor with three or four of you at a time.
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/sigh
ok then by saying we confuse greifer, with pk makes me wonder why you named your website "thegreifer" ... because if you claim to be a pk then why name yourself as a much harsher term?
anyway here's a bump for your fagdom.
How very true, I always think it ironic to see old UO players complain that Trammel ruined the game but in essence it was the griefing and overly abusive nature of the existing players in UO before Trammel that forced this move to bring in new players who where constantly put off joining the game, if the PK community had given a little and been more forgiving of new players and been less anal retentive about thier right to do anything to ruin a players gaming experience then Trammel may not have happend but as it was the game wasn't gaining any new subscriptions until Trammel came about, love it or hate it it all boils down to the stubborn attitude of the griefers that brought this change to the game and it could so easily happen to Darkfall if subs start to stagnate and then decline due to new players being put off entering such a harsh enviroment, not due to the game but due to the community and again the community will scream and kick when changes are made that make it easier for carebears to enter the game thus altering the game forever, until perhaps the game also offers it's own version of Trammel thus taking away all those lovely fresh bodies for the griefers and pk's to abuse, what a shame that would be.
It's cute.. all of the douche bags are trying to congregate so they have friends to play with.. *hugs*
Quick!! Dismiss me as some carebear!! Before your friends see you trying to "get together"..
Currently playing Real Life..
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For all your stalking needs..
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It's cute.. all of the douche bags are trying to congregate so they have friends to play with.. *hugs*
Quick!! Dismiss me as some carebear!! Before your friends see you trying to "get together"..
Thanks for a bump!
"Currently playing Real Life.. "
LOL.
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How very true, I always think it ironic to see old UO players complain that Trammel ruined the game but in essence it was the griefing and overly abusive nature of the existing players in UO before Trammel that forced this move to bring in new players who where constantly put off joining the game, if the PK community had given a little and been more forgiving of new players and been less anal retentive about thier right to do anything to ruin a players gaming experience then Trammel may not have happend but as it was the game wasn't gaining any new subscriptions until Trammel came about, love it or hate it it all boils down to the stubborn attitude of the griefers that brought this change to the game and it could so easily happen to Darkfall if subs start to stagnate and then decline due to new players being put off entering such a harsh enviroment, not due to the game but due to the community and again the community will scream and kick when changes are made that make it easier for carebears to enter the game thus altering the game forever, until perhaps the game also offers it's own version of Trammel thus taking away all those lovely fresh bodies for the griefers and pk's to abuse, what a shame that would be.
Ever heard of periods?
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Heh, the best part of all of this, is that eventually the griefers will turn on each other. So it all works out in the end for everyone else.
My blog is a continuing story of what MMO's should be like.
Then why are you complaining? Make up your mind lol.
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How very true, I always think it ironic to see old UO players complain that Trammel ruined the game but in essence it was the griefing and overly abusive nature of the existing players in UO before Trammel that forced this move to bring in new players who where constantly put off joining the game, if the PK community had given a little and been more forgiving of new players and been less anal retentive about thier right to do anything to ruin a players gaming experience then Trammel may not have happend but as it was the game wasn't gaining any new subscriptions until Trammel came about, love it or hate it it all boils down to the stubborn attitude of the griefers that brought this change to the game and it could so easily happen to Darkfall if subs start to stagnate and then decline due to new players being put off entering such a harsh enviroment, not due to the game but due to the community and again the community will scream and kick when changes are made that make it easier for carebears to enter the game thus altering the game forever, until perhaps the game also offers it's own version of Trammel thus taking away all those lovely fresh bodies for the griefers and pk's to abuse, what a shame that would be.
Ever heard of periods?
There was me thinking your talking about womens periods and then it dawned on me, ah ofc the guy is american and I'm a brit so didn't understand your comment immediately and is talking about full stops and comma's.
Aye should definately put a few in but I was talking to my kids and wife as I was writing so I got carried away.
I still remember my first experience in UO before Trammel, "Excuse me could you tell me where the bank is" answer from some knight all in black "FUCK OFF" my answer "ok!!" and I thought to myself hmmm is this going to be the norm and surprisingly it was, few months later Trammel came about and I moved and enjoyed the game without having my game time ruined with griefers.
How very true, I always think it ironic to see old UO players complain that Trammel ruined the game but in essence it was the griefing and overly abusive nature of the existing players in UO before Trammel that forced this move to bring in new players who where constantly put off joining the game, if the PK community had given a little and been more forgiving of new players and been less anal retentive about thier right to do anything to ruin a players gaming experience then Trammel may not have happend but as it was the game wasn't gaining any new subscriptions until Trammel came about, love it or hate it it all boils down to the stubborn attitude of the griefers that brought this change to the game and it could so easily happen to Darkfall if subs start to stagnate and then decline due to new players being put off entering such a harsh enviroment, not due to the game but due to the community and again the community will scream and kick when changes are made that make it easier for carebears to enter the game thus altering the game forever, until perhaps the game also offers it's own version of Trammel thus taking away all those lovely fresh bodies for the griefers and pk's to abuse, what a shame that would be.
Ever heard of periods?
There was me thinking your talking about womens periods and then it dawned on me, ah ofc the guy is american and I'm a brit so didn't understand your comment immediately and is talking about full stops and comma's.
Aye should definately put a few in but I was talking to my kids and wife as I was writing so I got carried away.
I still remember my first experience in UO before Trammel, "Excuse me could you tell me where the bank is" answer from some knight all in black "FUCK OFF" my answer "ok!!" and I thought to myself hmmm is this going to be the norm and surprisingly it was, few months later Trammel came about and I moved and enjoyed the game without having my game time ruined with griefers.
Damn! You have some low standards for griefing if you considered a guy telling you to "F OFF" a griefer! I doubt trammel change much for you in that case heh.
Updated:
We currently working on Column section. If any of you would be interested, we are looking for a few starting columnists. Overall, the articles should be MMO/PvP oriented. If any of you would like to have a personal article column on our website, register and PM Nefastus your starting starting article. It doesn't have to be an MMO/PvP topic specific, since it will be your introduction. You can write about yourself as a douchebag and gamer and what your column and articles will be about, in general.
We'll review the articles and give you the answer. If it looks promising, you'll have your own column.
{ Mod Edit }
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Ever heard of periods?
There was me thinking your talking about womens periods and then it dawned on me, ah ofc the guy is american and I'm a brit so didn't understand your comment immediately and is talking about full stops and comma's.
Aye should definately put a few in but I was talking to my kids and wife as I was writing so I got carried away.
I still remember my first experience in UO before Trammel, "Excuse me could you tell me where the bank is" answer from some knight all in black "FUCK OFF" my answer "ok!!" and I thought to myself hmmm is this going to be the norm and surprisingly it was, few months later Trammel came about and I moved and enjoyed the game without having my game time ruined with griefers.
Damn! You have some low standards for griefing if you considered a guy telling you to "F OFF" a griefer! I doubt trammel change much for you in that case heh.Updated:
We currently working on Column section. If any of you would be interested, we are looking for a few starting columnists. Overall, the articles should be MMO/PvP oriented. If any of you would like to have a personal article column on our website, register and PM Nefastus your starting starting article. It doesn't have to be an MMO/PvP topic specific, since it will be your introduction. You can write about yourself as a douchebag and gamer and what your column and articles will be about, in general.
We'll review the articles and give you the answer. If it looks promising, you'll have your own column.
{ Mod Edit }
Column....how appropriately phallic.
Kind of sums up the whole idea really.
'Want to act like a dick? Come and check out our column....it's hyooooooooge!!'
There was me thinking your talking about womens periods and then it dawned on me, ah ofc the guy is american and I'm a brit so didn't understand your comment immediately and is talking about full stops and comma's.
Aye should definately put a few in but I was talking to my kids and wife as I was writing so I got carried away.
I still remember my first experience in UO before Trammel, "Excuse me could you tell me where the bank is" answer from some knight all in black "FUCK OFF" my answer "ok!!" and I thought to myself hmmm is this going to be the norm and surprisingly it was, few months later Trammel came about and I moved and enjoyed the game without having my game time ruined with griefers.
Damn! You have some low standards for griefing if you considered a guy telling you to "F OFF" a griefer! I doubt trammel change much for you in that case heh.Updated:
We currently working on Column section. If any of you would be interested, we are looking for a few starting columnists. Overall, the articles should be MMO/PvP oriented. If any of you would like to have a personal article column on our website, register and PM Nefastus your starting starting article. It doesn't have to be an MMO/PvP topic specific, since it will be your introduction. You can write about yourself as a douchebag and gamer and what your column and articles will be about, in general.
We'll review the articles and give you the answer. If it looks promising, you'll have your own column.
{ Mod Edit }
Column....how appropriately phallic.
Kind of sums up the whole idea really.
'Want to act like a dick? Come and check out our column....it's hyooooooooge!!'
Yes, so we can have people write articles about how much they made you cry on the internet
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Damn! You have some low standards for griefing if you considered a guy telling you to "F OFF" a griefer! I doubt trammel change much for you in that case heh.Updated:
We currently working on Column section. If any of you would be interested, we are looking for a few starting columnists. Overall, the articles should be MMO/PvP oriented. If any of you would like to have a personal article column on our website, register and PM Nefastus your starting starting article. It doesn't have to be an MMO/PvP topic specific, since it will be your introduction. You can write about yourself as a douchebag and gamer and what your column and articles will be about, in general.
We'll review the articles and give you the answer. If it looks promising, you'll have your own column.
{ Mod Edit }
Column....how appropriately phallic.
Kind of sums up the whole idea really.
'Want to act like a dick? Come and check out our column....it's hyooooooooge!!'
Yes, so we can have people write articles about how much they made you cry on the internet
I would only shed a tear for the sad state of humanity as represented here.
They say most abusers do so because they were abused themselves...show us on the doll where the world touched you...
Ditto for Shadowbane...
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
How very true, I always think it ironic to see old UO players complain that Trammel ruined the game but in essence it was the griefing and overly abusive nature of the existing players in UO before Trammel that forced this move to bring in new players who where constantly put off joining the game, if the PK community had given a little and been more forgiving of new players and been less anal retentive about thier right to do anything to ruin a players gaming experience then Trammel may not have happend but as it was the game wasn't gaining any new subscriptions until Trammel came about, love it or hate it it all boils down to the stubborn attitude of the griefers that brought this change to the game and it could so easily happen to Darkfall if subs start to stagnate and then decline due to new players being put off entering such a harsh enviroment, not due to the game but due to the community and again the community will scream and kick when changes are made that make it easier for carebears to enter the game thus altering the game forever, until perhaps the game also offers it's own version of Trammel thus taking away all those lovely fresh bodies for the griefers and pk's to abuse, what a shame that would be.
Ever heard of periods?
There was me thinking your talking about womens periods and then it dawned on me, ah ofc the guy is american and I'm a brit so didn't understand your comment immediately and is talking about full stops and comma's.
Aye should definately put a few in but I was talking to my kids and wife as I was writing so I got carried away.
I still remember my first experience in UO before Trammel, "Excuse me could you tell me where the bank is" answer from some knight all in black "FUCK OFF" my answer "ok!!" and I thought to myself hmmm is this going to be the norm and surprisingly it was, few months later Trammel came about and I moved and enjoyed the game without having my game time ruined with griefers.
Damn! You have some low standards for griefing if you considered a guy telling you to "F OFF" a griefer! I doubt trammel change much for you in that case heh.Updated:
We currently working on Column section. If any of you would be interested, we are looking for a few starting columnists. Overall, the articles should be MMO/PvP oriented. If any of you would like to have a personal article column on our website, register and PM Nefastus your starting starting article. It doesn't have to be an MMO/PvP topic specific, since it will be your introduction. You can write about yourself as a douchebag and gamer and what your column and articles will be about, in general.
We'll review the articles and give you the answer. If it looks promising, you'll have your own column.
{ Mod Edit }
Column....how appropriately phallic.
Kind of sums up the whole idea really.
'Want to act like a dick? Come and check out our column....it's hyooooooooge!!'
Yes, so we can have people write articles about how much they made you cry on the internet
I would only shed a tear for the sad state of humanity as represented here.
They say most abusers do so because they were abused themselves...show us on the doll where the world touched you...
Haha, I'm not the one feeling victimized on the internet. Stop trying to put on me what you have and clearly continue to endure, feeling of being abused. Losing touch with reality? lol.
To whatever moderator edited my posted, you should as well edit the post I quoted since it also contains the "F OFF" (as you neatly edited my post) part. Do your fully please
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Haha, I'm not the one feeling victimized on the internet. Stop trying to put on me what you have and clearly continue to endure, feeling of being abused. Losing touch with reality? lol.
To whatever moderator edited my posted, you should as well edit the post I quoted since it also contains the "F OFF" (as you neatly edited my post) part. Do your fully please
You'd like to think so wouldn't you, but I'm afraid that speaks more of you than of me.
However, as a parent, I worry about the society my children are growing up in when behaviour, such as you are advertising here, is considered acceptible. The advancing decline of parental and personal responsibility has a lot to answer for.
In the UK there's currently a big initiative on in schools to combat cyber-bullying and as far as I can see, this is just that. Perhaps you should take a look at yourself for a moment and wonder why you think its okay to prey on people? I'd be really interested to know what you find.
Haha, I'm not the one feeling victimized on the internet. Stop trying to put on me what you have and clearly continue to endure, feeling of being abused. Losing touch with reality? lol.
To whatever moderator edited my posted, you should as well edit the post I quoted since it also contains the "F OFF" (as you neatly edited my post) part. Do your fully please
You'd like to think so wouldn't you, but I'm afraid that speaks more of you than of me.
However, as a parent, I worry about the society my children are growing up in when behaviour, such as you are advertising here, is considered acceptible. The advancing decline of parental and personal responsibility has a lot to answer for.
In the UK there's currently a big initiative on in schools to combat cyber-bullying and as far as I can see, this is just that. Perhaps you should take a look at yourself for a moment and wonder why you think its okay to prey on people? I'd be really interested to know what you find.
Perhaps you should spend more time parenting and less than crying on internet forums about how someone has hurt your or someone else feelings in a virtual game? What if your child reads this forum and sees how much of a cry baby you are? What kind of a damn irresponsible and weak parent are you! I'd feel ashamed if I was your child. SHAME ON YOU!
There would be no issues such as internet bullying or so called "griefing" if parents would spend more time getting their children involved in real life social environments. That way they'd not get so involved in abstract internet bullshit and have it confused with things that matter, which is real social relationships and not some nobody online avatar they have never met and probably never will. The fault lies in parents, not the internet bullying. Teach and encourage your children to be social and active in real life and they won't feel like some nobody TEXT person on the internet is hurting their feelings.
Thanks for a bump
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There are some really sad, fucked up individuals in the world so I think this site is a good idea.
With new laws that are being discussed you might just have a large enough membership that the government can find you all and get you off the streets and into a jail or simply ban you from the internet for being fucktards.
Anyone that thinks like this needs serious help. Shame you hide behind a screen and don't have the balls to act like this in public and face a good old face pound for being so retarded.
I'm trembling with fear!
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Haha, I'm not the one feeling victimized on the internet. Stop trying to put on me what you have and clearly continue to endure, feeling of being abused. Losing touch with reality? lol.
To whatever moderator edited my posted, you should as well edit the post I quoted since it also contains the "F OFF" (as you neatly edited my post) part. Do your fully please
You'd like to think so wouldn't you, but I'm afraid that speaks more of you than of me.
However, as a parent, I worry about the society my children are growing up in when behaviour, such as you are advertising here, is considered acceptible. The advancing decline of parental and personal responsibility has a lot to answer for.
In the UK there's currently a big initiative on in schools to combat cyber-bullying and as far as I can see, this is just that. Perhaps you should take a look at yourself for a moment and wonder why you think its okay to prey on people? I'd be really interested to know what you find.
Perhaps you should spend more time parenting and less than crying on internet forums about how someone has hurt your or someone else feelings in a virtual game? What if your child reads this forum and sees how much of a cry baby you are? What kind of a damn irresponsible and weak parent are you! I'd feel ashamed if I was your child. SHAME ON YOU!
There would be no issues such as internet bullying or so called "griefing" if parents would spend more time getting their children involved in real life social environments. That way they'd not get so involved in abstract internet bullshit and have it confused with things that matter, which is real social relationships and not some nobody online avatar they have never met and probably never will. The fault lies in parents, not the internet bullying. Teach and encourage your children to be social and active in real life and they won't feel like some nobody TEXT person on the internet is hurting their feelings.
Thanks for a bump
The fault lies in us all, no finger pointing because thats the easy way out "It's their fault not mine" is not the response.
Haha, I'm not the one feeling victimized on the internet. Stop trying to put on me what you have and clearly continue to endure, feeling of being abused. Losing touch with reality? lol.
To whatever moderator edited my posted, you should as well edit the post I quoted since it also contains the "F OFF" (as you neatly edited my post) part. Do your fully please
You'd like to think so wouldn't you, but I'm afraid that speaks more of you than of me.
However, as a parent, I worry about the society my children are growing up in when behaviour, such as you are advertising here, is considered acceptible. The advancing decline of parental and personal responsibility has a lot to answer for.
In the UK there's currently a big initiative on in schools to combat cyber-bullying and as far as I can see, this is just that. Perhaps you should take a look at yourself for a moment and wonder why you think its okay to prey on people? I'd be really interested to know what you find.
Perhaps you should spend more time parenting and less than crying on internet forums about how someone has hurt your or someone else feelings in a virtual game? What if your child reads this forum and sees how much of a cry baby you are? What kind of a damn irresponsible and weak parent are you! I'd feel ashamed if I was your child. SHAME ON YOU!
Thanks for a bump
You're welcome.
After all, with every post you make in reply, you're making my point stronger.
Now that you're resorting to personal attacks it becomes obvious that you have no logical defence of your position.
As for me being weak and irresponsible? Well, I'm not the one that lacks the strength of character to moderate my own conduct. Am I irresponsible for pointing out that what you're doing is socially unacceptible? I'd say not, quite the opposite in fact, I'm stepping up to face what I perceive as a problem within the community...to do otherwise would be a failiure on my part. As such, I'd be quite happy for my kids to see what I've tried to do here, other than the fact that as a responsible parent I wouldn't expose them to this forum and to people like yourself.
I look forward to your next barrage.