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Speedhack :(

OBK1OBK1 Member Posts: 637

They had a thread on the official forums with a link to a speedhack video, the thread was taken down but the video did pretty much speak for itself :(

I even think it was an advert for a company that had made the hack. Oh well, they need to stop this sort of thing really really fast. Now there is proof for its existence the real test is how fast they react against this cheating! Even for the most hardcore fans I imagine this could be a gamebreaker if not taken care of.

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  • javacjavac Member Posts: 1,175

    it's not a speedhack, it's a sync issue where it looks like someone moves quickly but really it's your client that is out of sync with the server, then correcting itself. this sync issue was fixed with the patch that came out 2 (?) days ago.

  • blix2006blix2006 Member UncommonPosts: 445

    <Mod edit>  are you sure looks like a speed hack to me

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156


    Originally posted by blix2006

    <Mod edit>  are you sure looks like a speed hack to me


     
    nah its all sync issues lol

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  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154

    Here we go . . .

    Good thing speedhacks don't exist right?

    It's a Jeep thing. . .
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    You wouldn't understand
  • blix2006blix2006 Member UncommonPosts: 445

    lol i dont think that guy has seent he video i posted ...really is a shame and i have decided not to get the game because of it.

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615


    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by blix2006

    <Mod edit>  are you sure looks like a speed hack to me


     
    nah its all sync issues lol

     
    You are out your mind. Its right in front of your face.

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  • A.BlacklochA.Blackloch Member UncommonPosts: 842

    And there are actual PvP guilds who tell you how to install the hack when joining in. Hurray! Somehow I don't regret holding my order at all.. I think the Beta months were enough.

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156


    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by blix2006

    <Mod edit> are you sure looks like a speed hack to me


     
    nah its all sync issues lol

     
    You are out your mind. Its right in front of your face.

    sarcasm is lost on this one.........

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  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249

    I think that video pretty much confirms the hack and also confirms what a lot of us have said from the beginning about Darkfall's client. There's no way for them to stop this kind of hacking, and it'll just continue to get worse until there is no way to compete in the game unless you cheat.

    Final judgement: Darkfall will fail as all of the cheaters drive off anyone who just wanted to play a fair, open PvP game.

  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154


    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by blix2006

    <Mod edit> are you sure looks like a speed hack to me


     
    nah its all sync issues lol

     
    You are out your mind. Its right in front of your face.

    I am pretty sure he is being sarcastic.

    It's a Jeep thing. . .
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    = image||||||image =
    |X| \*........*/ |X|
    |X|_________|X|
    You wouldn't understand
  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615


    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by blix2006

    <Mod edit>  are you sure looks like a speed hack to me


     
    nah its all sync issues lol

     
    You are out your mind. Its right in front of your face.

    sarcasm is lost on this one.........

     
    Sorry, yes, yes its in the shop.

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    "No, your wrong.." - Random user #123

    "Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.

    How are you?" -Me

  • coheed3coheed3 Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by Mortemia


    And there are actual PvP guilds who tell you how to install the hack when joining in. Hurray! Somehow I don't regret holding my order at all.. I think the Beta months were enough.

     

    Yeah.  I guess I'll just have to wait for Mortal Online.  At least from what I've seen, MO's creators know what they're doing.

     

    Its funny that all the DF fanboys (I was nearly one) say its ALL about skill in DF.  Your ability to hack/cheat in DF has simply replaced your amount of patience for grinding gear in other games.  But, I'm probably just a troll to them.

  • OBK1OBK1 Member Posts: 637


    Originally posted by blix2006

    <Mod edit>  are you sure looks like a speed hack to me


     
    That's the one, though I didn't dare to link it myself, thanks for doing the dirty work for me.

  • Syyth007Syyth007 Member Posts: 250

    After watching that video, it obviously is NOT a sync issue..  There is no ruberbanding, he was sprinting around a mob, which was working fine, no ruberbanding/stuck.  The attack animations were perfect speed while he was sprinting/going faster then sprinting along with absolutely no environment ruberbanding.  To doubt that DF will not have numerous hack programs is pretty naive..  He was obviously sprinting with no stamina loss, along with eventually moving a hell of alot faster then sprinting with no ruberbanding/warping/stuck animations that are indicative of a sync problem.

    Many in the cheating community were wetting their pants when they discovered how "clientside" the packet info is in DF..  It will enable cheaters to easily speedhack/fly/teleport, not to mention the possibility of auto-aimers.  When an online game relies so heavily on the clientside, as in where the character is in relation to the environment/npcs/other players, the packets are easily hacked into and altered, allowing smart programmers to exploit the system.  It's apparent the DF devs have not implemented any anti-cheating measures yet.  There were threads last night on forumfall that claimed there were people speedhacking, even their locations and names.  It couldn't of been the sync bug last night, since it was fixed the day before....

    If you want to learn more about DF's possible "clientside problems", google clientside hacking. There are many good articles about the subject.

  • Shard101Shard101 Member UncommonPosts: 479

    Packet sniffers!

     

    This game will fall flat on its face with all this cheats and Adventurine not doing a damn thing about it. No server wipe or new servers and bans show Adventurine condones this nonsense.

  • TalRashaTalRasha Member UncommonPosts: 827


    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by blix2006

    <Mod edit>  are you sure looks like a speed hack to me


     
    nah its all sync issues lol

     
    You are out your mind. Its right in front of your face.

     
    He knows.
    Sarcasm is sometimes hard to spot here 
     
    And to javac: Stop blindly defending. Makes you look like a real troll. A fanboy troll.
    There is nothing wrong with defending the game you like, but some on this forum are taking this way to far. They are misleading the mmorpg community. Of course, the same thing is true for some of the haters.

  • qombiqombi Member UncommonPosts: 1,170
    Originally posted by Syyth007


    After watching that video, it obviously is NOT a sync issue..  There is no ruberbanding, he was sprinting around a mob, which was working fine, no ruberbanding/stuck.  The attack animations were perfect speed while he was sprinting/going faster then sprinting along with absolutely no environment ruberbanding.  To doubt that DF will not have numerous hack programs is pretty naive..  He was obviously sprinting with no stamina loss, along with eventually moving a hell of alot faster then sprinting with no ruberbanding/warping/stuck animations that are indicative of a sync problem.
    Many in the cheating community were wetting their pants when they discovered how "clientside" the packet info is in DF..  It will enable cheaters to easily speedhack/fly/teleport, not to mention the possibility of auto-aimers.  When an online game relies so heavily on the clientside, as in where the character is in relation to the environment/npcs/other players, the packets are easily hacked into and altered, allowing smart programmers to exploit the system.  It's apparent the DF devs have not implemented any anti-cheating measures yet.  There were threads last night on forumfall that claimed there were people speedhacking, even their locations and names.  It couldn't of been the sync bug last night, since it was fixed the day before....
    If you want to learn more about DF's possible "clientside problems", google clientside hacking. There are many good articles about the subject.

     

    The sad thing is people that are using these hacks will ultimately hurt the life of the game by leading to other players being frustrated and quitting. In the end they are hurting themselves because they will be only left with the other hackers to play with and that will be a much smaller population.

  • ValiumSummerValiumSummer Member Posts: 1,008


    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by blix2006

    <Mod edit>  are you sure looks like a speed hack to me


     
    nah its all sync issues lol

     
    You are out your mind. Its right in front of your face.

    sarcasm is lost on this one.........

     
    Yep.
  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564


    Originally posted by TalRasha

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by blix2006

    <Mod edit>  are you sure looks like a speed hack to me


     
    nah its all sync issues lol

     
    You are out your mind. Its right in front of your face.

     
    He knows.
    Sarcasm is sometimes hard to spot here image
     
    And to javac: Stop blindly defending. Makes you look like a real troll. A fanboy troll.
    There is nothing wrong with defending the game you like, but some on this forum are taking this way to far. They are misleading the mmorpg community. Of course, the same thing is true for some of the haters.


    Yeah, it really makes me /facepalm sometimes to read some of the responses from the more rabid fans.
    Some will merely say "You know what, I know the game has issues. However, the good outweighs the bad, and it's the most fun I've had in any MMO in a long time, so I can overlook them". I can respect that. Even when they get a bit too "absolute" about it, saying "It's the best MMO out"... they're obviously only speaking for themselves there.
    However...  There's a big difference between acknowledging issues and accepting them anyway, and outright denying issues exist - or trying to explain or dismiss them into non-existence.
    There are some on these forums who will dismiss, deny or otherwise ignore any issue brought up about the game at all, saying the game is "just fine" and "there are no issues". Those are the people who make me /facepalm.
     

     
     

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  • tombear81tombear81 Member Posts: 810

     Hmmm am I being innocent or does a speedhack coming out this quickly seem... well.. very quick ?

  • rhinokrhinok Member UncommonPosts: 1,798
    Originally posted by tombear81


     Hmmm am I being innocent or does a speedhack coming out this quickly seem... well.. very quick ?

    According to the hacker's website, they've been developing them since beta, which means they were in beta or had access to the client.  Unfortunately, based on what I've read here and elswere, many of the checks are handled client-side, not server-side, which makes the game (allegedly) much easier to hack than many other MMOs.

    ~Ripper

  • maxnrosymaxnrosy Member Posts: 608

    Most of the info is client side.

    any modder from single player games can easly tamper the files. now in the hand of a hacker they can tamper the files and keep it well hidden, and are capable of working around any new patch that tries to fix the problem.

    Funny i remember the 1st time i saw hacks on a online rpg. that was Phantasy star online. hehe long time ago... well i remember how at 1st getting to lvl 100 and have rares was a holy shit look what he achived thing... Then the hacks came in. you can hit lvl cap in less than a few min. weps could be made ect. all becayse everything was saved client side. Then people figured out how to crash the servers ect. The sad thing about it, that game used to be free, then sega wanted to charge 10$ a month and provide protection and a hack free enviorment. Sadly since the most important data was saved client side they couldnt do nothing. whats more hummiiating this was done on a console. It took them a long time to make a good pc version (it came out 2 times on the pc, the 1st was hacked to death, the 2nd was hacked by pros.)

    Anyhow, AV can easly transfer the most imp data to be server side that is if they can. If not its just a matter of time for one guild that wants to rule the game and bully others to  destroy the game.

    Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.

  • nikoliathnikoliath Member UncommonPosts: 1,154

     just found and watched the video in question. Unless AV can prevent this, and prevent it now, their game WILL fail. 

     

  • blix2006blix2006 Member UncommonPosts: 445

    well i got a warning for posting the link..i dont care though people need to know its out there and they risk paying 53 bucks to a company that isnt going to be able to stop these things from happening..i was very excited and wanted to play this game til i saw that vid today...now i just feel bad for the people who did pay and are stuck with it.

  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249


    Originally posted by blix2006
    well i got a warning for posting the link..i dont care though people need to know its out there and they risk paying 53 bucks to a company that isnt going to be able to stop these things from happening..i was very excited and wanted to play this game til i saw that vid today...now i just feel bad for the people who did pay and are stuck with it.


    Thanks for posting it anyway. It's important that people understand that this game isn't, nor will it ever be, a fair skilled based PvP environment. I feel bad for those who have been taken in by all the lies, especially those who continue to support the game despite it's obvious flaws and terrible launch.

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