Originally posted by skydragonren I really do not understand how people are "spoiled" with the "last years games".
If being spoiled is coming to expect some type of standard for games when it comes to graphics, ui, and sells then I guess we are all spoiled.
The "last years games" all for the most part have upheld some form of genre wide standard, ever trying to improve graphics, ui, and gameplay. Some fell short but they tried. AoC for example, raised an entire new level when it came to graphics. WoW standardized casual gameplay and implemented such a marketing and sells tactic unlike the world has ever seen in this day and age. EQ2 improved on EQ1 as a total package. Guild Wars also improved on graphics and teamplay. Warhammer improved on DAoC's graphics and attempted to improve on gameplay.
Darkfall has gone backwards in all of these categories. You can call me spoiled if you like, I am just used to game companies trying to raise the bar, not lower it.
Maybe, but then again, Darkfall is a hell of a lot more fun to play, then any of the games you mentioned above.
So, in my opinion, they got the most important element correct.
This is merely an oinion of yours.
Just as my opinion is that every game I mentioned is better than DF. If it is fun for you then great.
Doesn't stop the fact that some people, myself included think the game is very dated in graphics, very clunky in the UI department, and just overall feels like a game made in 1999.
I don't care that you like it, I am glad you found a game you find fun.
Just like you shouldn't care that I don't like it and think it's the biggest chunk of garbage produced this decade.
this is what happends when noobs try to make a game lol the 8 years alone should of been a warning alone but then again i guess i should say thx to them for making the internet fun specialy with there mounts thats just lolz im just glad they had only 1 server so tehy could only scam that many and now theyl never even get more people then a simple f2p mmo
Originally posted by HerculesSAS They just turned off mob spawns because they had too many players in the game.
That's how pathetic this company is, and how well this game is coded.
And I find it more entertaining for every person here to say "Yea, we didn't want you in the game anyway!" -- soon enough you'll have nobody left to play with, because it will only be the fanboys. And we already know that the fanboys are largely allied with one another, so the game with shitty gameplay is now going to be even worse than it initially was.Shadowbane has better graphics and mechanics than Darkfall, even if it's level based. Hell, even DF is level based in disguise, but I won't get started on that because fanboys will shout me down and it's not worth explaining it to them. It's not even a sandbox world either, but I'll avoid that for the same reason.
This game is an entire joke.
Meh.
I'm sure the vast majority of people who waited to sign up for Darkfall and are playing right now didn't do it so they could kill mobs. I would further suspect that the vast overwhelming majority of those players wouldn't even care if NO PvE situations were ever included in the game whatsoever. I believe Adventurine knows this and doesn't even care that the vast minority of people are upset mobs are now "off".
Between Adventurine and the actual people wanting to PvP, I'm sure that if they can get rid of the complainers that much more faster, turning off mobs would have been well worth it. It sounds as though they turned them "off" because there are simply too many people in the game that want to kill EACH OTHER, which is the point of the game... not killing mobs. If that is the case, then they have succeeded in providing what their base fan really asked for years ago: a Pve LIGHT game where there is a giant sandbox world to build cities and fight other people without having to do quests constantly or kill 100 sand beetles for shoes.
It's really hilarious, but it seems when given the choice of doing anything they want, you still have gamers to this day that would either:
A) Sit in town and /macro Mana Missile for hours and hours across lakes at trees OR
Fight mobs OR:
C) Complain there's not an easy way to send /tells and /sit.
If this is Adventurine's deliberate plan to weed out the QQ crybabies and end up only with the base they went after in the first place, I applaud them for a working strategy.
Originally posted by skydragonren This is merely an oinion of yours. Just as my opinion is that every game I mentioned is better than DF. If it is fun for you then great. Doesn't stop the fact that some people, myself included think the game is very dated in graphics, very clunky in the UI department, and just overall feels like a game made in 1999. I don't care that you like it, I am glad you found a game you find fun. Just like you shouldn't care that I don't like it and think it's the biggest chunk of garbage produced this decade. These are our opinions, nothing more.
Apart from the fact that I have actually played every game you mentioned, including Darkfall and as such am basing my opinion on this personal experience, then, ok...
I like the UI
Graphics are nice, animations could use some work, but are ok.
Made in 1999...ummm get a clue, please....
You see, your hyperbole is just that, hyperbole.
In my opinion, Darkfall is by far, more enjoyable than any other of the games you mentioned.
Originally posted by skydragonren This is merely an oinion of yours. Just as my opinion is that every game I mentioned is better than DF. If it is fun for you then great. Doesn't stop the fact that some people, myself included think the game is very dated in graphics, very clunky in the UI department, and just overall feels like a game made in 1999. I don't care that you like it, I am glad you found a game you find fun. Just like you shouldn't care that I don't like it and think it's the biggest chunk of garbage produced this decade. These are our opinions, nothing more.
Apart from the fact that I have actually played every game you mentioned, including Darkfall and as such am basing my opinion on this personal experience, then, ok...
I like the UI
Graphics are nice, animations could use some work, but are ok.
Made in 1999...ummm get a clue, please....
You see, your hyperbole is just that, hyperbole.
In my opinion, Darkfall is by far, more enjoyable than any other of the games you mentioned.
That is the truth.
It is the truth for you. Still your opinion though.
I have also played every game I mentioned and I have also played Darkfall.
The game that darkfall reminds me the most of in graphics is Everquest 1 which is a game made in the 90's.
People rave on and on about how great DF's graphics are. The graphics are shit. The animations are even worse. So what if a tree looks "decent" for the year 2009. Trees do not make the game.
In my opinion the Character models are horrid, the buildings are horrid, maybe a rock or 2 look ok and the trees are "alright". All in all the graphics of DF are pretty bad.
Gameplay wise to me it is even worse. There is a standard of smooth gameplay that was introduced in ohhh I don't know the year 2003 or so. That every game since this date has seemed to pull off pretty seemless minus 1 game which is FFXI which has a pretty clunky UI that isn't very user friendly, but then again it was made that way for console users to utilize as well as pc users so I forgive that.
Darkfall can't even make a decent year 2009 User Interface.
It also can't create a server that can handle what most games find to be elementary. Even DAoC a game produced in the early 2000 could handle 5000+ players per server and didn't have an issue.
You can say what you want, it really doesn't matter. Opinions are just that opinions.
If Darkfall is a great game, then why are the fanboys not playing? It seems as if all the fanboys are here defending their precious Tasos who did nothing but lie and treat them like trash. If it were me, if I found the ultimate mmo, I would never look at game forums again. I think that the DF fanboys know deep inside that they are owned and are still in search of a real mmo thay did not find in Darkfail.
If Darkfall is a great game, then why are the fanboys not playing? It seems as if all the fanboys are here defending their precious Tasos who did nothing but lie and treat them like trash. If it were me, if I found the ultimate mmo, I would never look at game forums again. I think that the DF fanboys know deep inside that they are owned and are still in search of a real mmo thay did not find in Darkfail.
Originally posted by skydragonren This is merely an oinion of yours. Just as my opinion is that every game I mentioned is better than DF. If it is fun for you then great. Doesn't stop the fact that some people, myself included think the game is very dated in graphics, very clunky in the UI department, and just overall feels like a game made in 1999. I don't care that you like it, I am glad you found a game you find fun. Just like you shouldn't care that I don't like it and think it's the biggest chunk of garbage produced this decade. These are our opinions, nothing more.
Apart from the fact that I have actually played every game you mentioned, including Darkfall and as such am basing my opinion on this personal experience, then, ok...
I like the UI
Graphics are nice, animations could use some work, but are ok.
Made in 1999...ummm get a clue, please....
You see, your hyperbole is just that, hyperbole.
In my opinion, Darkfall is by far, more enjoyable than any other of the games you mentioned.
That is the truth.
It is the truth for you. Still your opinion though.
I have also played every game I mentioned and I have also played Darkfall.
The game that darkfall reminds me the most of in graphics is Everquest 1 which is a game made in the 90's.
People rave on and on about how great DF's graphics are. The graphics are shit. The animations are even worse. So what if a tree looks "decent" for the year 2009. Trees do not make the game.
In my opinion the Character models are horrid, the buildings are horrid, maybe a rock or 2 look ok and the trees are "alright". All in all the graphics of DF are pretty bad.
Gameplay wise to me it is even worse. There is a standard of smooth gameplay that was introduced in ohhh I don't know the year 2003 or so. That every game since this date has seemed to pull off pretty seemless minus 1 game which is FFXI which has a pretty clunky UI that isn't very user friendly, but then again it was made that way for console users to utilize as well as pc users so I forgive that.
Darkfall can't even make a decent year 2009 User Interface.
It also can't create a server that can handle what most games find to be elementary. Even DAoC a game produced in the early 2000 could handle 5000+ players per server and didn't have an issue.
You can say what you want, it really doesn't matter. Opinions are just that opinions.
Its your opinion and far from truth.
DF offers decent graphics. The gameplay is fantastic too me, if you cant learn new things like a new UI then you maybe suffer from some learning disability and are not DarkFall player material.
DarkFall can hold 10k concurrent users..what some popular new games can't.
Also i doubtr you have ever played the game..your history of posts shows you as long year DarkFall forum troll..
So his opinion is far from the truth but yours is the truth, odd.
Originally posted by DarthRaiden Its your opinion and far from truth. DF offers decent graphics. The gameplay is fantastic too me, if you cant learn new things like a new UI then you maybe suffer from some learning disability and are not DarkFall player material. DarkFall can hold 10k concurrent users..what some popular new games can't. Also i doubtr you have ever played the game..your history of posts shows you as long year DarkFall forum troll..
LOL oh man, Darth where do you come up with this stuff? You can't honestly think that way. This is a video game not a secret club.
Originally posted by DarthRaiden Its your opinion and far from truth. DF offers decent graphics. The gameplay is fantastic too me, if you cant learn new things like a new UI then you maybe suffer from some learning disability and are not DarkFall player material. DarkFall can hold 10k concurrent users..what some popular new games can't. Also i doubtr you have ever played the game..your history of posts shows you as long year DarkFall forum troll..
LOL oh man, Darth where do you come up with this stuff? You can't honestly think that way. This is a video game not a secret club.
Yes it is and we have a secret handshake to prove it
It is the truth for you. Still your opinion though.
Indeed
I have also played every game I mentioned and I have also played Darkfall.
Cool
The game that darkfall reminds me the most of in graphics is Everquest 1 which is a game made in the 90's.
Yourgraphics card must really suck, then, but ok....
People rave on and on about how great DF's graphics are. The graphics are shit. The animations are even worse. So what if a tree looks "decent" for the year 2009. Trees do not make the game.
Haven't heard much raving, but the graphics are actually very nice. Animations could use work. Again, are you sure you have actually played this game?
In my opinion the Character models are horrid, the buildings are horrid, maybe a rock or 2 look ok and the trees are "alright". All in all the graphics of DF are pretty bad.
OK, whatever...
Gameplay wise to me it is even worse. There is a standard of smooth gameplay that was introduced in ohhh I don't know the year 2003 or so. That every game since this date has seemed to pull off pretty seemless minus 1 game which is FFXI which has a pretty clunky UI that isn't very user friendly, but then again it was made that way for console users to utilize as well as pc users so I forgive that.
I really can't help but think you have not, in fact, actually played Darkfall, but ...
Darkfall can't even make a decent year 2009 User Interface.
I like the UI...
It also can't create a server that can handle what most games find to be elementary. Even DAoC a game produced in the early 2000 could handle 5000+ players per server and didn't have an issue.
Is 5000 greater or less then 10,000? I suppose Blizzrd is the leading mmo company. How many concurrent players on a WoW server, might I ask?
You can say what you want, it really doesn't matter. Opinions are just that opinions.
Originally posted by Angie-PvP If Darkfall is a great game, then why are the fanboys not playing? It seems as if all the fanboys are here defending their precious Tasos who did nothing but lie and treat them like trash. If it were me, if I found the ultimate mmo, I would never look at game forums again. I think that the DF fanboys know deep inside that they are owned and are still in search of a real mmo thay did not find in Darkfail.
I don't play Darkfall, nor have I signed up. Nor am I a "long time fan" following the game. Nor will I be signing up anytime soon. But I do want the game to succeed for several reasons other than simply "I love Tasos" or whatever other ridiculous logic you can formulate, so I "defend" it.
Not all people who want the game to do well are "fanbois" who have been waiting to play, Mr/Ms 12 Post. Just like not all the people who keep coming in the DF forums saying "The game sucks" are actual players, and know what they are talking about after a game has been out only 15 days on the market.
I guess you assume everyone saying the game looks really good is a fan only. With your logic, I guess we are to assume that people on these forums saying the game stinks with under 25 posts and never actually playing it are trolls.
It is the truth for you. Still your opinion though.
Indeed
I have also played every game I mentioned and I have also played Darkfall.
Cool
The game that darkfall reminds me the most of in graphics is Everquest 1 which is a game made in the 90's.
Yourgraphics card must really suck, then, but ok.... EVGA GeForce GTX 285 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 times 2 in SLi Mode I would hope it is enough to push Darkfall.
People rave on and on about how great DF's graphics are. The graphics are shit. The animations are even worse. So what if a tree looks "decent" for the year 2009. Trees do not make the game.
Haven't heard much raving, but the graphics are actually very nice. Animations could use work. Again, are you sure you have actually played this game? Yes and it is horrible to ME not you but ME. I think this is probably one of the worst looking games I have seen come out in the last 10 years. I put it somewhere between EQ1 and DAoC.
In my opinion the Character models are horrid, the buildings are horrid, maybe a rock or 2 look ok and the trees are "alright". All in all the graphics of DF are pretty bad.
OK, whatever...
Gameplay wise to me it is even worse. There is a standard of smooth gameplay that was introduced in ohhh I don't know the year 2003 or so. That every game since this date has seemed to pull off pretty seemless minus 1 game which is FFXI which has a pretty clunky UI that isn't very user friendly, but then again it was made that way for console users to utilize as well as pc users so I forgive that.
I really can't help but think you have not, in fact, actually played Darkfall, but ... So you call a tennis racket backswing 10,000 times strafing around in a circle trying to wack someone the pinnacle of mmo gameplay? I call it a huge boring waste of life. So casting magic in first person view trying to hit someone strafing around in a circle trying to hit you aww inspiring gameplay? It is like playing Hexen. Actually I think Hexen was better.
Darkfall can't even make a decent year 2009 User Interface.
I like the UI... Glad someone does.
It also can't create a server that can handle what most games find to be elementary. Even DAoC a game produced in the early 2000 could handle 5000+ players per server and didn't have an issue.
Is 5000 greater or less then 10,000? I suppose Blizzrd is the leading mmo company. How many concurrent players on a WoW server, might I ask? Blizzard doesn't need to put 10,000 players on 1 server. Blizzard has 200+ servers. Why bog down your players experience when you can do the smart thing and just spread them out. EvE can support 10k users on one server and as far as I know CCP didn't have these kinda issues on release as DF either. No excuse really.
You can say what you want, it really doesn't matter. Opinions are just that opinions.
Yup and obviously some are better than others... I guess so....
Darkfall has gone backwards in all of these categories. You can call me spoiled if you like, I am just used to game companies trying to raise the bar, not lower it.
Raising the bar is carebare you WoW / WAR / AoC noob!! Lowering it is hardcore!!! HARDCORE!!! *frothing at the mouth* HARDCORE!! HARDCORE!!! HARDCORE!!11llone *passes out*
"It is my opinion, that my opinions are always right"
Darkfall has gone backwards in all of these categories. You can call me spoiled if you like, I am just used to game companies trying to raise the bar, not lower it.
Raising the bar is carebare you WoW / WAR / AoC noob!! Lowering it is hardcore!!! HARDCORE!!! *frothing at the mouth* HARDCORE!! HARDCORE!!! HARDCORE!!11llone *passes out*
and here you have the average gamer in this PoS.
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.
Darkfall has gone backwards in all of these categories. You can call me spoiled if you like, I am just used to game companies trying to raise the bar, not lower it.
Raising the bar is carebare you WoW / WAR / AoC noob!! Lowering it is hardcore!!! HARDCORE!!! *frothing at the mouth* HARDCORE!! HARDCORE!!! HARDCORE!!11llone *passes out*
haha QFT, guess wanting something to look like it should be played in 2009 makes me a carebear.
I mean seriously, I used to think graphics were not important just gameplay was, but that isn't really the case.
We have Super Mario Bros (NES) Super Mario World (SNES) Mario 64 (N64) Super Mario Sunshine (Gamecube) and Mario Galaxies (Wii)...
Hmmm NES version is a classic, and Mario 64 raised the bar, Sunshine had better graphics, but what are you really going to play.
Answer : Super Mario galaxies, why? Because it raised the bar, has superior graphics to all 4 previous games, and superior gameplay. Even if Galaxies had the graphics of the Wii and controls of Mario64, odds are you are still gonna play Galaxies because it looks better.
Case in point, make a game in todays standards and more will accept it.
So you call a tennis racket backswing 10,000 times strafing around in a circle trying to wack someone the pinnacle of mmo gameplay? I call it a huge boring waste of life. So casting magic in first person view trying to hit someone strafing around in a circle trying to hit you aww inspiring gameplay? It is like playing Hexen. Actually I think Hexen was better.
Like I said, are you absolutely sure you have actually played Darkfall Online?
So you call a tennis racket backswing 10,000 times strafing around in a circle trying to wack someone the pinnacle of mmo gameplay? I call it a huge boring waste of life. So casting magic in first person view trying to hit someone strafing around in a circle trying to hit you aww inspiring gameplay? It is like playing Hexen. Actually I think Hexen was better.
Like I said, are you absolutely sure you have actually played Darkfall Online?
Perhaps you just though you did?
Well we can go watch a live feed right now if you like. I will bet you any amount of money all we see is a guy with a sword either doing a cross swing out in front over and over with an occassional vertical swipe, or someone in FP view slinging a "magic missle" at the guy trying to tennis racket him to death.
call your bank and demand the money bank cause a piece of shit game like this doesent deserve the money
Doing that can be considered fraud on your part as the product which was purchased has already been consumed. For the sake of clarification, the product is the license to use the software for 30 days with the consumption directly related to creating an account that's bound to the license. It's no different then demanding your money back after purchasing and consuming a meal with the claim that the meal wasn't that good.
What I understand about some of the faults of the game (not commenting on the business side of it) is that the interface is not standard in the same sense of what WoW, EQ or their clones share. Becuase of this there's going to be an immediate learning curve associated with the "less then intuitive" interface (even then, "intuitive" in this case is more related to a popular standard), but regardless of the difference there's legitimate criticism to be voiced of the process, rather then the funtion, being "clunky".
It appears these problems are exacerbated by insuffecient player intuition which is extremely visible on the forums due to excessive non contextual rants. On one hand it showcases the immaturity associated with open world PvP games, since that is the main attraction here, yet I believe it will also serve to weed out those who are better suited for a game of checkers.
I accept that an indie developer would have quite a few issues with the game as even the big AAA producers frequently experiance similar problems with theirs.
So you call a tennis racket backswing 10,000 times strafing around in a circle trying to wack someone the pinnacle of mmo gameplay? I call it a huge boring waste of life. So casting magic in first person view trying to hit someone strafing around in a circle trying to hit you aww inspiring gameplay? It is like playing Hexen. Actually I think Hexen was better.
Like I said, are you absolutely sure you have actually played Darkfall Online?
Perhaps you just though you did?
Well we can go watch a live feed right now if you like. I will bet you any amount of money all we see is a guy with a sword either doing a cross swing out in front over and over with an occassional vertical swipe, or someone in FP view slinging a "magic missle" at the guy trying to tennis racket him to death.
So you call a tennis racket backswing 10,000 times strafing around in a circle trying to wack someone the pinnacle of mmo gameplay? I call it a huge boring waste of life. So casting magic in first person view trying to hit someone strafing around in a circle trying to hit you aww inspiring gameplay? It is like playing Hexen. Actually I think Hexen was better.
Like I said, are you absolutely sure you have actually played Darkfall Online?
Perhaps you just though you did?
Well we can go watch a live feed right now if you like. I will bet you any amount of money all we see is a guy with a sword either doing a cross swing out in front over and over with an occassional vertical swipe, or someone in FP view slinging a "magic missle" at the guy trying to tennis racket him to death.
Ummm, ok...
(as I thought)
As you thought what? I can't meet you in game to view the nonsense that is DF. I uninstalled the game 2 days after installing it.
I do not waste harddrive space on things that have no business being there.
But like I said there are 10 live feeds going on right now we can all go sit in the chat room and watch, just to prove that what I say is true.
If they aren't sitting there huddles around the bind stone, they will be out doing the EXACT same 2 swings over and over the entire time we watch them. Quite boring if I do say so myself.
So you call a tennis racket backswing 10,000 times strafing around in a circle trying to wack someone the pinnacle of mmo gameplay? I call it a huge boring waste of life. So casting magic in first person view trying to hit someone strafing around in a circle trying to hit you aww inspiring gameplay? It is like playing Hexen. Actually I think Hexen was better.
Like I said, are you absolutely sure you have actually played Darkfall Online?
Perhaps you just though you did?
Well we can go watch a live feed right now if you like. I will bet you any amount of money all we see is a guy with a sword either doing a cross swing out in front over and over with an occassional vertical swipe, or someone in FP view slinging a "magic missle" at the guy trying to tennis racket him to death.
Ummm, ok...
(as I thought)
As you thought what? I can't meet you in game to view the nonsense that is DF. I uninstalled the game 2 days after installing it.
I do not waste harddrive space on things that have no business being there.
But like I said there are 10 live feeds going on right now we can all go sit in the chat room and watch, just to prove that what I say is true.
If they aren't sitting there huddles around the bind stone, they will be out doing the EXACT same 2 swings over and over the entire time we watch them. Quite boring if I do say so myself.
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Maybe, but then again, Darkfall is a hell of a lot more fun to play, then any of the games you mentioned above.
So, in my opinion, they got the most important element correct.
This is merely an oinion of yours.
Just as my opinion is that every game I mentioned is better than DF. If it is fun for you then great.
Doesn't stop the fact that some people, myself included think the game is very dated in graphics, very clunky in the UI department, and just overall feels like a game made in 1999.
I don't care that you like it, I am glad you found a game you find fun.
Just like you shouldn't care that I don't like it and think it's the biggest chunk of garbage produced this decade.
These are our opinions, nothing more.
this is what happends when noobs try to make a game lol the 8 years alone should of been a warning alone but then again i guess i should say thx to them for making the internet fun specialy with there mounts thats just lolz im just glad they had only 1 server so tehy could only scam that many and now theyl never even get more people then a simple f2p mmo
Meh.
I'm sure the vast majority of people who waited to sign up for Darkfall and are playing right now didn't do it so they could kill mobs. I would further suspect that the vast overwhelming majority of those players wouldn't even care if NO PvE situations were ever included in the game whatsoever. I believe Adventurine knows this and doesn't even care that the vast minority of people are upset mobs are now "off".
Between Adventurine and the actual people wanting to PvP, I'm sure that if they can get rid of the complainers that much more faster, turning off mobs would have been well worth it. It sounds as though they turned them "off" because there are simply too many people in the game that want to kill EACH OTHER, which is the point of the game... not killing mobs. If that is the case, then they have succeeded in providing what their base fan really asked for years ago: a Pve LIGHT game where there is a giant sandbox world to build cities and fight other people without having to do quests constantly or kill 100 sand beetles for shoes.
It's really hilarious, but it seems when given the choice of doing anything they want, you still have gamers to this day that would either:
A) Sit in town and /macro Mana Missile for hours and hours across lakes at trees OR
C) Complain there's not an easy way to send /tells and /sit.
If this is Adventurine's deliberate plan to weed out the QQ crybabies and end up only with the base they went after in the first place, I applaud them for a working strategy.
"TO MICHAEL!"
Apart from the fact that I have actually played every game you mentioned, including Darkfall and as such am basing my opinion on this personal experience, then, ok...
I like the UI
Graphics are nice, animations could use some work, but are ok.
Made in 1999...ummm get a clue, please....
You see, your hyperbole is just that, hyperbole.
In my opinion, Darkfall is by far, more enjoyable than any other of the games you mentioned.
That is the truth.
Apart from the fact that I have actually played every game you mentioned, including Darkfall and as such am basing my opinion on this personal experience, then, ok...
I like the UI
Graphics are nice, animations could use some work, but are ok.
Made in 1999...ummm get a clue, please....
You see, your hyperbole is just that, hyperbole.
In my opinion, Darkfall is by far, more enjoyable than any other of the games you mentioned.
That is the truth.
It is the truth for you. Still your opinion though.
I have also played every game I mentioned and I have also played Darkfall.
The game that darkfall reminds me the most of in graphics is Everquest 1 which is a game made in the 90's.
People rave on and on about how great DF's graphics are. The graphics are shit. The animations are even worse. So what if a tree looks "decent" for the year 2009. Trees do not make the game.
In my opinion the Character models are horrid, the buildings are horrid, maybe a rock or 2 look ok and the trees are "alright". All in all the graphics of DF are pretty bad.
Gameplay wise to me it is even worse. There is a standard of smooth gameplay that was introduced in ohhh I don't know the year 2003 or so. That every game since this date has seemed to pull off pretty seemless minus 1 game which is FFXI which has a pretty clunky UI that isn't very user friendly, but then again it was made that way for console users to utilize as well as pc users so I forgive that.
Darkfall can't even make a decent year 2009 User Interface.
It also can't create a server that can handle what most games find to be elementary. Even DAoC a game produced in the early 2000 could handle 5000+ players per server and didn't have an issue.
You can say what you want, it really doesn't matter. Opinions are just that opinions.
If Darkfall is a great game, then why are the fanboys not playing? It seems as if all the fanboys are here defending their precious Tasos who did nothing but lie and treat them like trash. If it were me, if I found the ultimate mmo, I would never look at game forums again. I think that the DF fanboys know deep inside that they are owned and are still in search of a real mmo thay did not find in Darkfail.
At work atm.
I'll be on as soon as I get home, though...
Apart from the fact that I have actually played every game you mentioned, including Darkfall and as such am basing my opinion on this personal experience, then, ok...
I like the UI
Graphics are nice, animations could use some work, but are ok.
Made in 1999...ummm get a clue, please....
You see, your hyperbole is just that, hyperbole.
In my opinion, Darkfall is by far, more enjoyable than any other of the games you mentioned.
That is the truth.
It is the truth for you. Still your opinion though.
I have also played every game I mentioned and I have also played Darkfall.
The game that darkfall reminds me the most of in graphics is Everquest 1 which is a game made in the 90's.
People rave on and on about how great DF's graphics are. The graphics are shit. The animations are even worse. So what if a tree looks "decent" for the year 2009. Trees do not make the game.
In my opinion the Character models are horrid, the buildings are horrid, maybe a rock or 2 look ok and the trees are "alright". All in all the graphics of DF are pretty bad.
Gameplay wise to me it is even worse. There is a standard of smooth gameplay that was introduced in ohhh I don't know the year 2003 or so. That every game since this date has seemed to pull off pretty seemless minus 1 game which is FFXI which has a pretty clunky UI that isn't very user friendly, but then again it was made that way for console users to utilize as well as pc users so I forgive that.
Darkfall can't even make a decent year 2009 User Interface.
It also can't create a server that can handle what most games find to be elementary. Even DAoC a game produced in the early 2000 could handle 5000+ players per server and didn't have an issue.
You can say what you want, it really doesn't matter. Opinions are just that opinions.
Its your opinion and far from truth.
DF offers decent graphics. The gameplay is fantastic too me, if you cant learn new things like a new UI then you maybe suffer from some learning disability and are not DarkFall player material.
DarkFall can hold 10k concurrent users..what some popular new games can't.
Also i doubtr you have ever played the game..your history of posts shows you as long year DarkFall forum troll..
So his opinion is far from the truth but yours is the truth, odd.
LOL oh man, Darth where do you come up with this stuff? You can't honestly think that way. This is a video game not a secret club.
LOL oh man, Darth where do you come up with this stuff? You can't honestly think that way. This is a video game not a secret club.
Yes it is and we have a secret handshake to prove it
I hate darkfall with every fiber of my being, but I decided to play it because you can't honestly hate something until you try it.
Kinda like brussel sprouts. You don't know if you hate them till you try them.
I tried DF and I still hate it, but at least I tried it.
Oh well, I didn't spend the 50 bucks on it so nothing wasted on my end.
It is the truth for you. Still your opinion though.
Indeed
I have also played every game I mentioned and I have also played Darkfall.
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The game that darkfall reminds me the most of in graphics is Everquest 1 which is a game made in the 90's.
Yourgraphics card must really suck, then, but ok....
People rave on and on about how great DF's graphics are. The graphics are shit. The animations are even worse. So what if a tree looks "decent" for the year 2009. Trees do not make the game.
Haven't heard much raving, but the graphics are actually very nice. Animations could use work. Again, are you sure you have actually played this game?
In my opinion the Character models are horrid, the buildings are horrid, maybe a rock or 2 look ok and the trees are "alright". All in all the graphics of DF are pretty bad.
OK, whatever...
Gameplay wise to me it is even worse. There is a standard of smooth gameplay that was introduced in ohhh I don't know the year 2003 or so. That every game since this date has seemed to pull off pretty seemless minus 1 game which is FFXI which has a pretty clunky UI that isn't very user friendly, but then again it was made that way for console users to utilize as well as pc users so I forgive that.
I really can't help but think you have not, in fact, actually played Darkfall, but ...
Darkfall can't even make a decent year 2009 User Interface.
I like the UI...
It also can't create a server that can handle what most games find to be elementary. Even DAoC a game produced in the early 2000 could handle 5000+ players per server and didn't have an issue.
Is 5000 greater or less then 10,000? I suppose Blizzrd is the leading mmo company. How many concurrent players on a WoW server, might I ask?
You can say what you want, it really doesn't matter. Opinions are just that opinions.
Yup and obviously some are better than others...
I don't play Darkfall, nor have I signed up. Nor am I a "long time fan" following the game. Nor will I be signing up anytime soon. But I do want the game to succeed for several reasons other than simply "I love Tasos" or whatever other ridiculous logic you can formulate, so I "defend" it.
Not all people who want the game to do well are "fanbois" who have been waiting to play, Mr/Ms 12 Post. Just like not all the people who keep coming in the DF forums saying "The game sucks" are actual players, and know what they are talking about after a game has been out only 15 days on the market.
I guess you assume everyone saying the game looks really good is a fan only. With your logic, I guess we are to assume that people on these forums saying the game stinks with under 25 posts and never actually playing it are trolls.
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It is the truth for you. Still your opinion though.
Indeed
I have also played every game I mentioned and I have also played Darkfall.
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The game that darkfall reminds me the most of in graphics is Everquest 1 which is a game made in the 90's.
Yourgraphics card must really suck, then, but ok.... EVGA GeForce GTX 285 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 times 2 in SLi Mode I would hope it is enough to push Darkfall.
People rave on and on about how great DF's graphics are. The graphics are shit. The animations are even worse. So what if a tree looks "decent" for the year 2009. Trees do not make the game.
Haven't heard much raving, but the graphics are actually very nice. Animations could use work. Again, are you sure you have actually played this game? Yes and it is horrible to ME not you but ME. I think this is probably one of the worst looking games I have seen come out in the last 10 years. I put it somewhere between EQ1 and DAoC.
In my opinion the Character models are horrid, the buildings are horrid, maybe a rock or 2 look ok and the trees are "alright". All in all the graphics of DF are pretty bad.
OK, whatever...
Gameplay wise to me it is even worse. There is a standard of smooth gameplay that was introduced in ohhh I don't know the year 2003 or so. That every game since this date has seemed to pull off pretty seemless minus 1 game which is FFXI which has a pretty clunky UI that isn't very user friendly, but then again it was made that way for console users to utilize as well as pc users so I forgive that.
I really can't help but think you have not, in fact, actually played Darkfall, but ... So you call a tennis racket backswing 10,000 times strafing around in a circle trying to wack someone the pinnacle of mmo gameplay? I call it a huge boring waste of life. So casting magic in first person view trying to hit someone strafing around in a circle trying to hit you aww inspiring gameplay? It is like playing Hexen. Actually I think Hexen was better.
Darkfall can't even make a decent year 2009 User Interface.
I like the UI... Glad someone does.
It also can't create a server that can handle what most games find to be elementary. Even DAoC a game produced in the early 2000 could handle 5000+ players per server and didn't have an issue.
Is 5000 greater or less then 10,000? I suppose Blizzrd is the leading mmo company. How many concurrent players on a WoW server, might I ask? Blizzard doesn't need to put 10,000 players on 1 server. Blizzard has 200+ servers. Why bog down your players experience when you can do the smart thing and just spread them out. EvE can support 10k users on one server and as far as I know CCP didn't have these kinda issues on release as DF either. No excuse really.
You can say what you want, it really doesn't matter. Opinions are just that opinions.
Yup and obviously some are better than others... I guess so....
Darkfall has gone backwards in all of these categories. You can call me spoiled if you like, I am just used to game companies trying to raise the bar, not lower it.
Raising the bar is carebare you WoW / WAR / AoC noob!! Lowering it is hardcore!!! HARDCORE!!! *frothing at the mouth* HARDCORE!! HARDCORE!!! HARDCORE!!11llone *passes out*
"It is my opinion, that my opinions are always right"
Darkfall has gone backwards in all of these categories. You can call me spoiled if you like, I am just used to game companies trying to raise the bar, not lower it.
Raising the bar is carebare you WoW / WAR / AoC noob!! Lowering it is hardcore!!! HARDCORE!!! *frothing at the mouth* HARDCORE!! HARDCORE!!! HARDCORE!!11llone *passes out*
and here you have the average gamer in this PoS.
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.
Darkfall has gone backwards in all of these categories. You can call me spoiled if you like, I am just used to game companies trying to raise the bar, not lower it.
Raising the bar is carebare you WoW / WAR / AoC noob!! Lowering it is hardcore!!! HARDCORE!!! *frothing at the mouth* HARDCORE!! HARDCORE!!! HARDCORE!!11llone *passes out*
haha QFT, guess wanting something to look like it should be played in 2009 makes me a carebear.
I mean seriously, I used to think graphics were not important just gameplay was, but that isn't really the case.
We have Super Mario Bros (NES) Super Mario World (SNES) Mario 64 (N64) Super Mario Sunshine (Gamecube) and Mario Galaxies (Wii)...
Hmmm NES version is a classic, and Mario 64 raised the bar, Sunshine had better graphics, but what are you really going to play.
Answer : Super Mario galaxies, why? Because it raised the bar, has superior graphics to all 4 previous games, and superior gameplay. Even if Galaxies had the graphics of the Wii and controls of Mario64, odds are you are still gonna play Galaxies because it looks better.
Case in point, make a game in todays standards and more will accept it.
Like I said, are you absolutely sure you have actually played Darkfall Online?
Perhaps you just though you did?
Like I said, are you absolutely sure you have actually played Darkfall Online?
Perhaps you just though you did?
Well we can go watch a live feed right now if you like. I will bet you any amount of money all we see is a guy with a sword either doing a cross swing out in front over and over with an occassional vertical swipe, or someone in FP view slinging a "magic missle" at the guy trying to tennis racket him to death.
call your bank and demand the money bank cause a piece of shit game like this doesent deserve the money
Doing that can be considered fraud on your part as the product which was purchased has already been consumed. For the sake of clarification, the product is the license to use the software for 30 days with the consumption directly related to creating an account that's bound to the license. It's no different then demanding your money back after purchasing and consuming a meal with the claim that the meal wasn't that good.
What I understand about some of the faults of the game (not commenting on the business side of it) is that the interface is not standard in the same sense of what WoW, EQ or their clones share. Becuase of this there's going to be an immediate learning curve associated with the "less then intuitive" interface (even then, "intuitive" in this case is more related to a popular standard), but regardless of the difference there's legitimate criticism to be voiced of the process, rather then the funtion, being "clunky".
It appears these problems are exacerbated by insuffecient player intuition which is extremely visible on the forums due to excessive non contextual rants. On one hand it showcases the immaturity associated with open world PvP games, since that is the main attraction here, yet I believe it will also serve to weed out those who are better suited for a game of checkers.
I accept that an indie developer would have quite a few issues with the game as even the big AAA producers frequently experiance similar problems with theirs.
Like I said, are you absolutely sure you have actually played Darkfall Online?
Perhaps you just though you did?
Well we can go watch a live feed right now if you like. I will bet you any amount of money all we see is a guy with a sword either doing a cross swing out in front over and over with an occassional vertical swipe, or someone in FP view slinging a "magic missle" at the guy trying to tennis racket him to death.
Ummm, ok...
(as I thought)
Like I said, are you absolutely sure you have actually played Darkfall Online?
Perhaps you just though you did?
Well we can go watch a live feed right now if you like. I will bet you any amount of money all we see is a guy with a sword either doing a cross swing out in front over and over with an occassional vertical swipe, or someone in FP view slinging a "magic missle" at the guy trying to tennis racket him to death.
Ummm, ok...
(as I thought)
As you thought what? I can't meet you in game to view the nonsense that is DF. I uninstalled the game 2 days after installing it.
I do not waste harddrive space on things that have no business being there.
But like I said there are 10 live feeds going on right now we can all go sit in the chat room and watch, just to prove that what I say is true.
If they aren't sitting there huddles around the bind stone, they will be out doing the EXACT same 2 swings over and over the entire time we watch them. Quite boring if I do say so myself.
Like I said, are you absolutely sure you have actually played Darkfall Online?
Perhaps you just though you did?
Well we can go watch a live feed right now if you like. I will bet you any amount of money all we see is a guy with a sword either doing a cross swing out in front over and over with an occassional vertical swipe, or someone in FP view slinging a "magic missle" at the guy trying to tennis racket him to death.
Ummm, ok...
(as I thought)
As you thought what? I can't meet you in game to view the nonsense that is DF. I uninstalled the game 2 days after installing it.
I do not waste harddrive space on things that have no business being there.
But like I said there are 10 live feeds going on right now we can all go sit in the chat room and watch, just to prove that what I say is true.
If they aren't sitting there huddles around the bind stone, they will be out doing the EXACT same 2 swings over and over the entire time we watch them. Quite boring if I do say so myself.
lol, ok...
This is typical when someone has nothing else to say. Must know that what I am saying is right.
This is typical when someone has nothing else to say. Must know that what I am saying is right.
Like telling someone that the Earth is round and they refute it by saying that you can't walk on a ball.
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