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  • KhalathwyrKhalathwyr Member UncommonPosts: 3,133
    Originally posted by Einstein-DF


     No I dont think so, for reasons that I stated on the MO boards
     
    I like DF but wont badmouth MO for stupid reasons, just what I see and logically deduce, like the massive battles issue.
     
    Also MO fanboys, what DarthRaiden posted was sarcasm, attributed to the BS that was spewed whenever a DF video came up someone would bitch about some minor thing or another
     
    Quite opposite than MO's video where there are also plenty of things to bicker over.
     
    What I would like from MO devs now would be the exact features that will be implemented on release, on their main website (since I havent found anything solid) 



     

    Which they've said they are not going to publish until later/closer to launch because they don't want to be like other *ahem* companies and promise features that may end up not making it in. Additionally it keeps them from half-assing some features just to get it in because of the flak they'll get if they don't. Makes perfect sense to anyone capable of rational thought.

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  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    Looks ok...still not my cup of tea (sci fi fan) but it doesnt look too bad. Animations could use a little bit of work, like the world and how it looks, haven't seen enough to make a valid decision. But it doesnt look too bad....a few notches above DF.

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  • YamanakaYamanaka Member Posts: 6

    lol ;DarthRaiden

     

    Ignorance is bliss right m8 ;)

     

    I myself can't wait to play MO! :D

    Wanted to try out DF, but the points DarthRaiden mentioned are all very present in Darkfail and thus I decided not to try DF.

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by Cuelda

    Originally posted by DarthRaiden


    www.youtube.com/watch
    Lawl ..that was official ?
    Where is the UI ?
    Graphics sucks !
    Does it has any shadows ?
    Animations Lawl ..is that what should show DF ..how its done ? lol
    Did the clouds move , did any fucking leaf move in the wind ? Lawl
    Where ios the mobs ? The world was near devoid of any mob ..lawl
    Where is mounted combat ?
    Looks like fucking one move for mellee ? any magic in these game ? 
    OMG DarkFall PRE BETA  vid August looked in so many  ways for a better  gameplay..this looks like a lame game..even scripted it looks lame lol
     I should visit MO forums

     

    This, many people don't realise that this is exactly how the vaportrolls sounded when Darkfall videos came out.

     

    Now on a serious note, MO will probably bite a big chunk out of DF's playerbase, especially the graphic whores and the soloers/lone wolfs. MOs Melee combat is probably superior as well.

    On the other hand all the Lineage 2/Shadowbane/<insert clan based MMO here> clans that want to own their own cities and kill each other endlessly in big battles will stick around with Darkfall.

    Unless I see a player build city or a battle that consists of more than 50 people I don't consider that DF's clan core is threatened by MO.

    The big difference, I think, is that In Darkfall's case the comments were warranted. In this case, DR is just trolling.

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  • puulapuula Member Posts: 3

    Played this game for 1 week.

    I even played AoC for more than a month. Consider that.

  • tombear81tombear81 Member Posts: 810

     Darth seems to be getting desperate. *Hugs* ? Peace and love ?

    As for MO video we need to be careful as we all know videos can make "shit in a bucket " look good. There are videos that make DF seem like a polished release. (

    That saaaaid :

    Though it does appear to be a LOT more than DF ever showed prior to release. The first person dungeon crawling bit looked like dark messiah and that got me a little be turned on. The combat animation was great for the players hands but some of the animation looked flaky. Though least it was fluid and didn't look like the charectors are constipated like DF does. too much frelling blood though. Dont overdo it you'll only attract some of the sad pots that inhabit the DF community.

    Oddly optimistic. But maybe that cause Tasos isn't behind the curtains.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333
    Originally posted by miagisan


    Animations could use a little bit of work, like the world and how it looks, haven't seen enough to make a valid decision.

     

    Right and right..

    In case of DarkFall you troll and in case of MO you been generous..double standard..

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  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Originally posted by miagisan


    Animations could use a little bit of work, like the world and how it looks, haven't seen enough to make a valid decision.

     

    Right and right..

    In case of DarkFall you troll and in case of MO you been generous..double standard..

     

    no for darkfall and MO the difference is that i played darkfall....and the company doesnt seem like a sack of turds like AV is

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  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333
    Originally posted by tombear81


     Darth seems to be getting desperate. *Hugs* ? Peace and love ?
    As for MO video we need to be careful as we all know videos can make "shit in a bucket " look good. There are videos that make DF seem like a polished release. (
    That saaaaid :
    Though it does appear to be a LOT more than DF ever showed prior to release. The first person dungeon crawling bit looked like dark messiah and that got me a little be turned on. The combat animation was great for the players hands but some of the animation looked flaky. Though least it was fluid and didn't look like the charectors are constipated like DF does. too much frelling blood though. Dont overdo it you'll only attract some of the sad pots that inhabit the DF community.
    Oddly optimistic. But maybe that cause Tasos isn't behind the curtains.

     

    I am not getting desperate ...really these Beta video diidn't  completed anything with me..

    I am happy if  MO makes some of you happy ..

    but  your inner is to broken guys..you will destroy any  fanbase for MO here in MMORPG .com like you did for DF.. but if you leave all for MO ..here will be better place ..

    my motto ..small playerbase for the win ..  i am happy for me 

     

     

     

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  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333
    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Originally posted by miagisan


    Animations could use a little bit of work, like the world and how it looks, haven't seen enough to make a valid decision.

     

    Right and right..

    In case of DarkFall you troll and in case of MO you been generous..double standard..

     

    no for darkfall and MO the difference is that i played darkfall....and the company doesnt seem like a sack of turds like AV is

     

    You got an invite and played and then you didn't played MO ..without any experience you put MO over DFO ..

    way  to go for practice justice ..

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  • ThekandyThekandy Member Posts: 621
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Originally posted by miagisan


    Animations could use a little bit of work, like the world and how it looks, haven't seen enough to make a valid decision.

     

    Right and right..

    In case of DarkFall you troll and in case of MO you been generous..double standard..

     

    I see something else being double here, how about all your freaking periods.

  • EvasiaEvasia Member Posts: 2,827
    Originally posted by heartless

    Originally posted by rpg123


    This is the way that darkfall ends

    This is the way that darkfall ends

    This is the way that darkfall ends

    Not with a bang but a whimper.
    No matter, we have something actually worthwhile now: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/229174/Mortal-Online-Beta-Signup-and-gameplay-video.html


     

     

    God, I hope not. I hope that Darkfall sticks around and all the asshats stick with it. The Mortal Online community is so much nicer than Darkfall's. If Darkfall ends, the dregs of the MMO community that currently populate Darkfall will no doubt flood to Mortal Online.



     

    Let the grafhic whores go to MO all tho latest HD video MO looks terible, i still think the real hardcore stick with Darkfall all the ex-themepark play MO.

    Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
    In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.

  • GorillaGorilla Member UncommonPosts: 2,235
    Originally posted by Einstein-DF


    What I would like from MO devs now would be the exact features that will be implemented on release, on their main website (since I havent found anything solid) 

     

    It would be intresting to know the same for DF (for its full release rather than this 'soft launch'). Guess you have seen the "DF feature thread'

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811
    Originally posted by heartless

    Originally posted by rpg123


    This is the way that darkfall ends

    This is the way that darkfall ends

    This is the way that darkfall ends

    Not with a bang but a whimper.
    No matter, we have something actually worthwhile now: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/229174/Mortal-Online-Beta-Signup-and-gameplay-video.html


     

     

    God, I hope not. I hope that Darkfall sticks around and all the asshats stick with it. The Mortal Online community is so much nicer than Darkfall's. If Darkfall ends, the dregs of the MMO community that currently populate Darkfall will no doubt flood to Mortal Online.

    My feelings exactly.

  • Angie-PvPAngie-PvP Member Posts: 87

    That is so true, it does look to me like Darkfall is going to go belly up. It will be sad to see the DF forum community go to Mortal Online or Earthrise. The good thing is that the MO / Earthrise forum mods / admins are quick to ban DF forum behavior, I am sure they will be quick to do the same in game.

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • tombear81tombear81 Member Posts: 810
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Originally posted by tombear81


     Darth seems to be getting desperate. *Hugs* ? Peace and love ?
    As for MO video we need to be careful as we all know videos can make "shit in a bucket " look good. There are videos that make DF seem like a polished release. (
    That saaaaid :
    Though it does appear to be a LOT more than DF ever showed prior to release. The first person dungeon crawling bit looked like dark messiah and that got me a little be turned on. The combat animation was great for the players hands but some of the animation looked flaky. Though least it was fluid and didn't look like the charectors are constipated like DF does. too much frelling blood though. Dont overdo it you'll only attract some of the sad pots that inhabit the DF community.
    Oddly optimistic. But maybe that cause Tasos isn't behind the curtains.

     

    I am not getting desperate ...really these Beta video diidn't  completed anything with me..

    I am happy if  MO makes some of you happy ..

    but  your inner is to broken guys..you will destroy any  fanbase for MO here in MMORPG .com like you did for DF.. but if you leave all for MO ..here will be better place ..

    my motto ..small playerbase for the win ..  i am happy for me 

     

    Small player base ? I think you might find its a bit smaller than that. DF life span is not looking good right now and AV aint making money from what I am understanding. This has nothing to do with MO and everything to do with AV and there shambolic release and crappy realtionship with its own playerbase.

    Face it Darth .. if MO does things as silly as DF did then you know we will be merciless. Its to do with most people being realistic or cynical. Nothing to do with "broken" insides or whatever . You've seen it on here with us "trolls" and DF. As it stands I've been hearing good things from MO.. including developers in IRC as opposed to AV with its one man band all sing dancing lie sputing Lord Tasos. Right now MO starts on +10 for postive. DF was on something like -60 negative *before* it released.

    I swear Lord Tasos has a lot  to answer for...

  • xpiherxpiher Member UncommonPosts: 3,310

    Without Sieges or massive PvP MO won't attract the same people that DF did. I remember reading that MO isn't designed for large scale PvP, its deisgned for small tactical group battles where GvG would be something similar to a mini game or what GW did. That was a couple months ago but still.

    For the shake of the MMO community we should wish DF, MO, EarthRise, Agency, and Fallen Earth all sucess because if most fail to attract must attention or develop decent fan bases the MMO companies will go back to making themeparked WoW clones.

    BTW DF is actually pretty fun, no reason that MO shouldn't be their core mechanics are pretty much the same.

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  • ValhamaValhama Member Posts: 169

    Did you know you can actually make more than one character per server in MO? And that there are classes? And no city sieges? And even meta skills that train on ALL CHARACTERS on the same server (or account, not sure).

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  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by Valhama


    You fucking idiots jump at whatever looks the best. It's because of the ignorance of the mass that we will never have a truly good game.
    Darkfall is far from being a "truly good game".
    Did you know you can actually make more than one character per server in MO? And that there are classes? And no city sieges? And even meta skills that train on ALL CHARACTERS on the same server (or account, not sure).
    Classes? As opposed to everyone being the same melee-archer mage like everyone is in DF? I'm not sure about city sieges but when you fill out the closed beta application, one of the questions asks you to list of the things you're looking forward to the most in MO and one of the options was... yup, you guessed it: city sieges.


    And what is the big deal about multiple characters? I see nothing wrong with allowing a person to be able to have multiple characters if he or she decided to invest the time into them.
    It's a fucking disgrace to even compare it to Darkfall. Bunch of superficial unenlightened prudes you folks are.
    Darkfall is a disgrace to all sandbox MMOs out there.

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  • Death1942Death1942 Member UncommonPosts: 2,587

    i really hope both succeed so we get more indie and more sandbox games and the AAA companies get a big slap in the face and finally go back to making creative and fun games.

    MMO wish list:

    -Changeable worlds
    -Solid non level based game
    -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads

  • ValhamaValhama Member Posts: 169
    Originally posted by heartless

    Originally posted by Valhama


    You fucking idiots jump at whatever looks the best. It's because of the ignorance of the mass that we will never have a truly good game.
    Darkfall is far from being a "truly good game".
    Give it a few months, and it will be hard to say that even for someone completely stubborn.
    Did you know you can actually make more than one character per server in MO? And that there are classes? And no city sieges? And even meta skills that train on ALL CHARACTERS on the same server (or account, not sure).
    Classes? As opposed to everyone being the same melee-archer mage like everyone is in DF? I'm not sure about city sieges but when you fill out the closed beta application, one of the questions asks you to list of the things you're looking forward to the most in MO and one of the options was... yup, you guessed it: city sieges.


    What are you talking about? You do realize there's a softcap, AND skill degredation in Darkfall, right? Even if there weren't those things, no one will master them all for a long, long time. Not to mention the increased difficulty of fighting with all three types of combat at once. It's silly.


    All it does is give people FREEDOM to chose their own path and at any point try a different one. Having an option to "look forward" to city sieging is not actual sieging. If you can make cities AND wage war against them, and it's implemented well, then fine, that one is on par to Darkfall. I highly doubt that though, because they've said they didn't want MO to be about large scale conflict.
    And what is the big deal about multiple characters? I see nothing wrong with allowing a person to be able to have multiple characters if he or she decided to invest the time into them.
    Yeah. If I log in, kill you, grief other people, still their crap, and be a total jerk to everyone I meet, and then simply log into a different toon, gainy COMPLETE pardon for ALL of the bad reputation I've gained on the other character, it's just dumb. It doesn't make sense and it has no belonging in an exciting world where players are bound to their actions and have to live with the consequences.
    It's a fucking disgrace to even compare it to Darkfall. Bunch of superficial unenlightened prudes you folks are.
    Darkfall is a disgrace to all sandbox MMOs out there.
    Oh? Please do elaborate. Why is Darkfall a "disgrace" to you? 

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  • HerculesSASHerculesSAS Member Posts: 1,272
    Originally posted by Valhama


    Did you know you can actually make more than one character per server in MO? And that there are classes? And no city sieges? And even meta skills that train on ALL CHARACTERS on the same server (or account, not sure).
    { Mod Edit }

     

    Half this information is wrong, at least on paper.... so I'll just pass.

     

    Obvious troll is obvious.

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by star.buck

    Originally posted by DarthRaiden


    www.youtube.com/watch
    Lawl ..that was official ?
    Where is the UI ?
    Graphics sucks !
    Does it has any shadows ?
    Animations Lawl ..is that what should show DF ..how its done ? lol
    Did the clouds move , did any fucking leaf move in the wind ? Lawl
    Where ios the mobs ? The world was near devoid of any mob ..lawl
    Where is mounted combat ?
    Looks like fucking one move for mellee ? any magic in these game ? 
    OMG DarkFall PRE BETA  vid August looked in so many  ways for a better  gameplay..this looks like a lame game..even scripted it looks lame lol
     I should visit MO forums

    I love you.

    You just  totally proved Heartless' point.

    QQ more, your game sucks and you know it.

    na mo looks crap good gfx bad combat

     

  • TridianTridian Member UncommonPosts: 273
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden


    www.youtube.com/watch
    Lawl ..that was official ?
    Where is the UI ?
    Graphics sucks !
    Does it has any shadows ?
    Animations Lawl ..is that what should show DF ..how its done ? lol
    Did the clouds move , did any fucking leaf move in the wind ? Lawl
    Where ios the mobs ? The world was near devoid of any mob ..lawl
    Where is mounted combat ?
    Looks like fucking one move for mellee ? any magic in these game ? 
    OMG DarkFall PRE BETA  vid August looked in so many  ways for a better  gameplay..this looks like a lame game..even scripted it looks lame lol
     I should visit MO forums

    Check it out at .46 into the vid.

  • GruntiesGrunties Member Posts: 859

    I swear, mmo players get dumber with every game release...

    The MO vid was mediocre at best, worth keeping an eye on but not particularly impressive in any way. Many things to criticize about it, same things criticized about in other games, it clearly has yet to prove itself. You'd think people would have smartened up after AoC, learn not to speak too soon but nope, same old mistakes committed again and again and again. See a crappy vid and blindly jump on the fan train and spout the failure of all its competitors without ever spending a second playing either game. Oh if stupidity could kill... but then I suppose there wouldn't be much of a market left for mmos.

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    Woe to thee, the pierce-ed.

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