Give something more original of this "troll" stuff would you? It's geting boring already. The thread is about popularity. Some people here look pretty annoying about WoW popularity for instance! What is wrong with you? We all want a good game to play, but ... sadly it's not this one, except tufty polished graphics.
Sweeping insults and blanklet dismissals without any solid evidence. This tread is about popularity, and for a product not yet launched.
We all want a good game to play, but before its launched, you know its not fun. Except polished graphics.
While many others here have played the Asian version and were making solid comments based on the Asian version.
Now who is trolling?
Sadly, this might not be the one for you, for whatever preconceived reason you have before its launched. This we understand. But it does not oil the wheel of discussion here.
Now really i'm getting pissed off. Stop flickering some political stuff in this forum NERDS! I don't care who is talented or is not talented. Chinese, korean and so on ..... Tell me why this game will be the next "big MMO". That's what is relevant to me. Stop being so smart and show so much humanity. Find an appropriate forum to do so ... Now you cath about one sentence that i've wrote and you all write unapropriate stuff in the wrong forum!
You're the one who stated bias against asian products as an "argument", try to defend it instead of asking us to convince someone who is this stubborn.
I think Aion will be the next big mmo because it both the european and korean NCsoft that put together this game, and they looked at WoW before they made it to make it more quest base than Lineage 2 was. And also it looks great since they use the Cryo engine its gonna look really great, stealth system is real and not like lineage 2. Combo attacks = funnier battles. And the custumasation of the characters is massive, which makes it so you got a original looking character. And air combat makes it intressting. I got a really good feeling about this game, but one never knows until played, But I will sure try it out. And I am hoping for european beta.
Now really i'm getting pissed off. Stop flickering some political stuff in this forum NERDS! I don't care who is talented or is not talented. Chinese, korean and so on ..... Tell me why this game will be the next "big MMO". That's what is relevant to me. Stop being so smart and show so much humanity. Find an appropriate forum to do so ... Now you cath about one sentence that i've wrote and you all write unapropriate stuff in the wrong forum!
Thanks for keeping up the insult, you need to use the word NERD everywhere.
I do not know if Aion will be the next big. If I know, I will be the richest man on earth, I know where to invest and where not to. I am reading this thread, and looking for ideas about a new game, and somewhat fun it will be speculating on how well Aion will go, will it go the path of GW, or bigger, or flop like WAR.
Stop showing humanity, wrong forums, ... oh, now after dismissing Asia as a category, you start dictating the way of expression here. What will you work on next? The color of the keyboard we need to use to post here?
You don't care who is talented, but you conclude that they steal ideas. You do not care who is talented, but you concluded they do not make good enough games, or pay enough attentiion to quality. Good reasoning you have there.
How about one simple advice. Know your place. You are just as much as a NERD or person or login in name as I am. You air your views, I wrote mine. Stop trying to pretend your views are bigger than the pile of alphabets, your views are just as valuable as they are perceived and read by others. And remember this, you have no say on how others talk, and what they talk. You can come or leave, that is about it.
I've played a lot of games. I used the term "asian" in the meaning that they make games like they make coffee mashines, on the product line for mass production with about a hundred per year! The fact that the beta is launched in korea first is enough, with absolutely all the interface on korean. This game is korean and will remain korean.
I've played a lot of games. I used the term "asian" in the meaning that they make games like they make coffee mashines, on the product line for mass production with about a hundred per year! The fact that the beta is launched in korea first is enough, with absolutely all the interface on korean. This game is korean and will remain korean.
I think Aion will be the next big mmo because it both the european and korean NCsoft that put together this game, and they looked at WoW before they made it to make it more quest base than Lineage 2 was. And also it looks great since they use the Cryo engine its gonna look really great, stealth system is real and not like lineage 2. Combo attacks = funnier battles. And the custumasation of the characters is massive, which makes it so you got a original looking character. And air combat makes it intressting. I got a really good feeling about this game, but one never knows until played, But I will sure try it out. And I am hoping for european beta.
Yes the customisation thing is really something impressive to me. City of Heroes was most fun right from the start. I spend days just designing the looks of my character, and deleting them and redesigning.
I think the trial is available in China now, and I m travelling around there. Maybe I find some off hours looking at how to download it and give it a shot. I have read enough solid information to make this worth trying out.
I've played a lot of games. I used the term "asian" in the meaning that they make games like they make coffee mashines, on the product line for mass production with about a hundred per year! The fact that the beta is launched in korea first is enough, with absolutely all the interface on korean. This game is korean and will remain korean.
They make games like coffee machine? Good factual input you have there.
My plane is ready for boarding. Enough reading here.
The game is nothing like wow, besides using WSAD and a mouse. Even then you have a choice to use point and click lol. The game is graphically far beyond WoW. Quests were great and kept you involved and moving along. Animation were smooth and badazz...I am sad that I have to wait till septemberish to play it again I defintely think AION will pull a substantial amount of players from WoW. The whole community is just dying to play something else. Blizzard is just stringing everyone along adding new content but nothing really NEW if you get what I mean. A new dungeon is hardly NEW content. same shit kill kill kill blue/purple drop..awesome. After 5 times of that you are done again and waiting for the next patch to repeat the last. I have a lot of faith in AION. It was a great game and had me hooked for the 1 1/2 weeksish during Chinese OBT
Its pretty similar to WoW in the starter zone, not a clone but similar. I am not saying they copied wow buts it landscape is also similar to WoW, in the starter zone.
Quests:
Winged transportation that takes a scenic route to show off landscape.
I've played a lot of games. I used the term "asian" in the meaning that they make games like they make coffee mashines, on the product line for mass production with about a hundred per year! The fact that the beta is launched in korea first is enough, with absolutely all the interface on korean. This game is korean and will remain korean.
Originally posted by Vrazule Once again, what the hell does that have to do with the topic of the discussion? We aren't debating the comparative numbers between the east and the west, nor are we discussing which side of the world is more dominant in the MMO industry. Geez.
Originally posted by Vrazule You have very selective reading comprehension, don't you. In all of my references, it was about American subscribers, after all, that is what this topic is about. We aren't talking about Eastern numbers, so stay on topic please.
The OP never states NA only, no?
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Of all of the MMORPGs which have released in the North American market, I expect that Aion will be the second-most successful, after WoW. More successful by a solid margin than any of the other MMOs (except WoW) that have come in the last several years, but still far short of WoW's monolithic success. Calling it now.
Originally posted by Wighty
It's like the latest batch of MMO's are like a f'n Kevin Costner movie... <think Waterworld, the Postman, etc> they cost a FORTUNE, they sound like they may be good but then you just realized you sat around for 3 hours of WTF...
I think it will big, sure. By all accounts it already is.
For me though, sub numbers only matter to the board of directors and the share holders... As long as my server is lively and community good, I don't care if a game has 10,000 or 10,000,000 subs.
I don't need the validation of others, to be part of a herd, to know that I am having fun with good people.
As we know, popular dosent equate 'good'. We also know 'good' is subjective, as is 'successful'.
'Success' depends on what you are trying to achive, and how close to that you get. It has little to do in my mind with revenue, unless you tell me that revenue was the primary motivator a game's design.... If you DO tell me that, I probably would be put offr playing it anyhow.
Will I be playing Aion? Might DL and try it out if it is free to look at it, sure, but from what I read it isnt for me so I'm not enthusiastic. It is pretty, but it feels like a step back when we should be going forward.
I think my two games will be The Chronicles of Spellborn (which is fantastic if light on content right now once you hit 50) and Jumpgate Evolution (which I will play while they stick that content in to feed my Elite/ Freelancer love).
I think Aion will be the next big mmo because it both the european and korean NCsoft that put together this game, and they looked at WoW before they made it to make it more quest base than Lineage 2 was. And also it looks great since they use the Cryo engine its gonna look really great, stealth system is real and not like lineage 2. Combo attacks = funnier battles. And the custumasation of the characters is massive, which makes it so you got a original looking character. And air combat makes it intressting. I got a really good feeling about this game, but one never knows until played, But I will sure try it out. And I am hoping for european beta.
Yes the customisation thing is really something impressive to me. City of Heroes was most fun right from the start. I spend days just designing the looks of my character, and deleting them and redesigning.
I think the trial is available in China now, and I m travelling around there. Maybe I find some off hours looking at how to download it and give it a shot. I have read enough solid information to make this worth trying out.
I played City of heroes also and I also loved the custom builds you could make there, and I hear and seen Aion and its alot of that. Almost all Korea gamers are playing it atm, just like wow when it started so I will bet all my money on Aion due to all the facts and the videos I seen and the text I have read.
Look man we have to be original, we must make a whole new game but there is a standards that we must consider. Look ... we can't make mounts man, it's too obvious, we'll make wings, yaaaau cool ha. We can even steal this idea from "perfect world" mmo, it's nobody know game so nobody will notice.
Then in what we are good? Skill and key combinations, awesome. If we have interest we may add mortal combat fatalities at the end. But the most important we have graphics (computer abilities are not under consideration, lag too, it's not important).
We'll put tufty looking world, gay looking male models and sexy looking chicks and we are done - exellent, brand new game.
Btw .. we don't have to change the basic mechanics, somebody else before us made it not bad, well make it the same actually. Even better, because we are smart we'll make some of the stuff worse so nobody blame us in stealing ideas. Genius - the new MMMO big hit franchise!
No, Aion won't be the next big thing. It doesn't really do anything new. It's got a few gimmicks which make it interesting, but at its heart it's just another level-based quest grinder. It follows the same formula as a hundred other generic fantasy MMORPGs.
Out of all the posts in this thread, that one made the strongest point.
Aion will not be the next big mmo, I am sure of it.
It will find its audience, no doubt, but contrary to what the fanboys say, it is just a disguised Lineage 3, same crappy mechanics, same crappy class system, same crappy itemization, same "rigid' animation and feeling, same flawed PvP system etc
Sure there a bit less grinding, a few more quests (that are extremely basics for most of them) but it won't be enough to make it appealing enough for the non-korean audience.
NCsoft will fail, yet again, at grasping the Western MMO audience, but will probably yet again get the eastern audience.
LOL...you guys are funny thinking that Aion would be a revolutionary game but its not, it just brings the best of what is out there and polishes it up better. Aion won't produce WOW numbers but it will produce enough subscribers to be the second best mmo this year. Besides NCSoft said they wanted to give the beauty of what asian games show with the feel of what western games give. Besides what mmo out so far has done anything different than what has already been done and don't expect any of the ones to come out next year to be any much different.
Aion will not be the next big mmo, I am sure of it. How can you be sure if everything you said is not accurate? It will find its audience, no doubt, but contrary to what the fanboys say, it is just a disguised Lineage 3, same crappy mechanics, same crappy class system, same crappy itemization, same "rigid' animation and feeling, same flawed PvP system etc Aion has nothing to do with Lineage The class system is not similar. The itemization is more similar to westerngames (but look better) About animations,you will be surprised. With stigma system, class system will have some unique aspects. It is not the same group who made Lineage. Sure there a bit less grinding, a few more quests (that are extremely basics for most of them) but it won't be enough to make it appealing enough for the non-korean audience. If by basic you mean a bit better than we have right now, maybe.
I am not saying Aion will be the next big thing, even the fact the game is already big, but all your criticism is based on false information.
LOL...you guys are funny thinking that Aion would be a revolutionary game but its not, it just brings the best of what is out there and polishes it up better. Aion won't produce WOW numbers but it will produce enough subscribers to be the second best mmo this year. Besides NCSoft said they wanted to give the beauty of what asian games show with the feel of what western games give. Besides what mmo out so far has done anything different than what has already been done and don't expect any of the ones to come out next year to be any much different.
I agree with some of your points.
I think Warhammer and Age of Conan will suffer with Aion, and with the RvR PvP aspect of Aion and its far (far, far) superior PvE, unfortunately Warhammer will suffer more.
With the fact players will need a less powerful PC to play Aion than Warhammer and Aion looks far superior it is easy to see Aion as an overall more attractive option...
Anyway, in the end, what we need is variety and Aion bring some new aspects, new lore, flying combat and it is very, very polished and well done...
Remember WoW was not revolutionary too...
One thing I know for sure, finally a polished release... After Guild Wars (that had a fantastic release) all MMOs were released broken, not the case with Aion.
LOL...you guys are funny thinking that Aion would be a revolutionary game but its not, it just brings the best of what is out there and polishes it up better. Aion won't produce WOW numbers but it will produce enough subscribers to be the second best mmo this year. Besides NCSoft said they wanted to give the beauty of what asian games show with the feel of what western games give. Besides what mmo out so far has done anything different than what has already been done and don't expect any of the ones to come out next year to be any much different.
Well, Devil, you play Rising Force, and have played Linaege, so I guess Aion is good for you, and thats great.
The question was though 'is Aion going to be the next big thing'?
People are just saying why they think it won't be.
As for producing enough subsribers to be the 'second best mmo' this year... like I said, numbers have nothing to do with being 'best'.
Unless you are on the board of directors or hold shares in it thats is.
The only hope for difference is Guild Wars 2. The former Blizzard team seams to know the job. But .. they've destroyed the first GW with stupid inovations so i don't know. Besides the absence of monthly fees leaves them behind other products of NCSoft. They left anet for a 2010-2011 launch period. If the game is ready at all then.
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Sweeping insults and blanklet dismissals without any solid evidence. This tread is about popularity, and for a product not yet launched.
We all want a good game to play, but before its launched, you know its not fun. Except polished graphics.
While many others here have played the Asian version and were making solid comments based on the Asian version.
Now who is trolling?
Sadly, this might not be the one for you, for whatever preconceived reason you have before its launched. This we understand. But it does not oil the wheel of discussion here.
You're the one who stated bias against asian products as an "argument", try to defend it instead of asking us to convince someone who is this stubborn.
I think Aion will be the next big mmo because it both the european and korean NCsoft that put together this game, and they looked at WoW before they made it to make it more quest base than Lineage 2 was. And also it looks great since they use the Cryo engine its gonna look really great, stealth system is real and not like lineage 2. Combo attacks = funnier battles. And the custumasation of the characters is massive, which makes it so you got a original looking character. And air combat makes it intressting. I got a really good feeling about this game, but one never knows until played, But I will sure try it out. And I am hoping for european beta.
Thanks for keeping up the insult, you need to use the word NERD everywhere.
I do not know if Aion will be the next big. If I know, I will be the richest man on earth, I know where to invest and where not to. I am reading this thread, and looking for ideas about a new game, and somewhat fun it will be speculating on how well Aion will go, will it go the path of GW, or bigger, or flop like WAR.
Stop showing humanity, wrong forums, ... oh, now after dismissing Asia as a category, you start dictating the way of expression here. What will you work on next? The color of the keyboard we need to use to post here?
You don't care who is talented, but you conclude that they steal ideas. You do not care who is talented, but you concluded they do not make good enough games, or pay enough attentiion to quality. Good reasoning you have there.
How about one simple advice. Know your place. You are just as much as a NERD or person or login in name as I am. You air your views, I wrote mine. Stop trying to pretend your views are bigger than the pile of alphabets, your views are just as valuable as they are perceived and read by others. And remember this, you have no say on how others talk, and what they talk. You can come or leave, that is about it.
I've played a lot of games. I used the term "asian" in the meaning that they make games like they make coffee mashines, on the product line for mass production with about a hundred per year! The fact that the beta is launched in korea first is enough, with absolutely all the interface on korean. This game is korean and will remain korean.
Please cry some more. Your tears are sustaining.
Yes the customisation thing is really something impressive to me. City of Heroes was most fun right from the start. I spend days just designing the looks of my character, and deleting them and redesigning.
I think the trial is available in China now, and I m travelling around there. Maybe I find some off hours looking at how to download it and give it a shot. I have read enough solid information to make this worth trying out.
They make games like coffee machine? Good factual input you have there.
My plane is ready for boarding. Enough reading here.
Its pretty similar to WoW in the starter zone, not a clone but similar. I am not saying they copied wow buts it landscape is also similar to WoW, in the starter zone.
Quests:
Winged transportation that takes a scenic route to show off landscape.
Kobolds in a Mine/chopping trees.
Gather grain from a farm
Save the farm from invaders
Please cry some more. Your tears are sustaining.
Cry? :P hahaha LAME
The OP never states NA only, no?
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Of all of the MMORPGs which have released in the North American market, I expect that Aion will be the second-most successful, after WoW. More successful by a solid margin than any of the other MMOs (except WoW) that have come in the last several years, but still far short of WoW's monolithic success. Calling it now.
Originally posted by Wighty
It's like the latest batch of MMO's are like a f'n Kevin Costner movie... <think Waterworld, the Postman, etc> they cost a FORTUNE, they sound like they may be good but then you just realized you sat around for 3 hours of WTF...
I think it will big, sure. By all accounts it already is.
For me though, sub numbers only matter to the board of directors and the share holders... As long as my server is lively and community good, I don't care if a game has 10,000 or 10,000,000 subs.
I don't need the validation of others, to be part of a herd, to know that I am having fun with good people.
As we know, popular dosent equate 'good'. We also know 'good' is subjective, as is 'successful'.
'Success' depends on what you are trying to achive, and how close to that you get. It has little to do in my mind with revenue, unless you tell me that revenue was the primary motivator a game's design.... If you DO tell me that, I probably would be put offr playing it anyhow.
Will I be playing Aion? Might DL and try it out if it is free to look at it, sure, but from what I read it isnt for me so I'm not enthusiastic. It is pretty, but it feels like a step back when we should be going forward.
I think my two games will be The Chronicles of Spellborn (which is fantastic if light on content right now once you hit 50) and Jumpgate Evolution (which I will play while they stick that content in to feed my Elite/ Freelancer love).
Yes the customisation thing is really something impressive to me. City of Heroes was most fun right from the start. I spend days just designing the looks of my character, and deleting them and redesigning.
I think the trial is available in China now, and I m travelling around there. Maybe I find some off hours looking at how to download it and give it a shot. I have read enough solid information to make this worth trying out.
I played City of heroes also and I also loved the custom builds you could make there, and I hear and seen Aion and its alot of that. Almost all Korea gamers are playing it atm, just like wow when it started so I will bet all my money on Aion due to all the facts and the videos I seen and the text I have read.
I imagine how this people think.
Look man we have to be original, we must make a whole new game but there is a standards that we must consider. Look ... we can't make mounts man, it's too obvious, we'll make wings, yaaaau cool ha. We can even steal this idea from "perfect world" mmo, it's nobody know game so nobody will notice.
Then in what we are good? Skill and key combinations, awesome. If we have interest we may add mortal combat fatalities at the end. But the most important we have graphics (computer abilities are not under consideration, lag too, it's not important).
We'll put tufty looking world, gay looking male models and sexy looking chicks and we are done - exellent, brand new game.
Btw .. we don't have to change the basic mechanics, somebody else before us made it not bad, well make it the same actually. Even better, because we are smart we'll make some of the stuff worse so nobody blame us in stealing ideas. Genius - the new MMMO big hit franchise!
Out of all the posts in this thread, that one made the strongest point.
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Aion will not be the next big mmo, I am sure of it.
It will find its audience, no doubt, but contrary to what the fanboys say, it is just a disguised Lineage 3, same crappy mechanics, same crappy class system, same crappy itemization, same "rigid' animation and feeling, same flawed PvP system etc
Sure there a bit less grinding, a few more quests (that are extremely basics for most of them) but it won't be enough to make it appealing enough for the non-korean audience.
NCsoft will fail, yet again, at grasping the Western MMO audience, but will probably yet again get the eastern audience.
LOL...you guys are funny thinking that Aion would be a revolutionary game but its not, it just brings the best of what is out there and polishes it up better. Aion won't produce WOW numbers but it will produce enough subscribers to be the second best mmo this year. Besides NCSoft said they wanted to give the beauty of what asian games show with the feel of what western games give. Besides what mmo out so far has done anything different than what has already been done and don't expect any of the ones to come out next year to be any much different.
I am not saying Aion will be the next big thing, even the fact the game is already big, but all your criticism is based on false information.
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I played the game last week on chinese open beta.
Sooo...
I agree with some of your points.
I think Warhammer and Age of Conan will suffer with Aion, and with the RvR PvP aspect of Aion and its far (far, far) superior PvE, unfortunately Warhammer will suffer more.
With the fact players will need a less powerful PC to play Aion than Warhammer and Aion looks far superior it is easy to see Aion as an overall more attractive option...
Anyway, in the end, what we need is variety and Aion bring some new aspects, new lore, flying combat and it is very, very polished and well done...
Remember WoW was not revolutionary too...
One thing I know for sure, finally a polished release... After Guild Wars (that had a fantastic release) all MMOs were released broken, not the case with Aion.
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And even so you didnt realized you are basing your criticism in false information?
What you said about class system showed this...
Well, Devil, you play Rising Force, and have played Linaege, so I guess Aion is good for you, and thats great.
The question was though 'is Aion going to be the next big thing'?
People are just saying why they think it won't be.
As for producing enough subsribers to be the 'second best mmo' this year... like I said, numbers have nothing to do with being 'best'.
Unless you are on the board of directors or hold shares in it thats is.
The only hope for difference is Guild Wars 2. The former Blizzard team seams to know the job. But .. they've destroyed the first GW with stupid inovations so i don't know. Besides the absence of monthly fees leaves them behind other products of NCSoft. They left anet for a 2010-2011 launch period. If the game is ready at all then.