I believe thjey are trying to inforce a certain aspect of online we have seen as of late.That would be anything similar to things like HABBA hotel,the problem is that you can't hold up a patent on something you NEVER created,it was out long before Worlds.com used it.I have not seen the actual documents,but i assume it involves avatars,social chat rooms and a portal/hub for players to meet up.Loging into a game does not mean you are there to meet up with anyone as MANY players login to play solo.witch is why they are talking about the SOCIAL aspect,a sort of meeting place ,just like HABBA hotel.I guess if anything ,since Habba Hotel is foreign,Worlds could patent the USA rights...i think,not sure how patent laws work exactly.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
If this goes through then I can think of other lawsuits Tolkein Suing Wizards of the Coast over the use of the Elven Race, and the term Ranger Wizards of the Coast suing any and all Fantasy CRPG and MMORPG for the Use of D&D Class Types(Paladin, Warrior, Ranger, etc) Unix Suing the Creators of Linux for use of the Unix Kernel the list is endless, the US Patent Office really screwed up on this call and so did Worlds.com. If they had a true lawsuit they wouldnt just attack 1 company they would attack any and all MMORPG Developers at once.
Again, Why would you go after all of them at once?
It would cost billions in court fees to sue every MMO maker at the same time.
The way they are doing it is THE ONLY way they could win, target a smaller company that has a lot of money to lose so they can collect a fat check off them and then continue on the war path to the next MMO maker, which would have more money to throw at them legally and more money to be won if Worlds.com could win.
Because the bigger companies like Activision Blizzard, EA Mythic. Sony USA, and Turbine will pay out of court before it even gets to trial. That is much faster than suing 1 little company whos main office isnt even in the same country that the Patent is filed in.
You do realize if they settled out of court that would be Worlds.com winning right?
So they would have to pay royalties to Worlds.com... For probably what would be a long long time...
They would fight this law suit with every ounce of their being and fight it to win, Worlds.com does not want to get tied up in court for years, they want to force a little company to buckle.
If they can bleed NCSoft then maybe NCsoft would settle out of court, since they're not an american company and the patent is only an AMERICAN patent.
Hence they could buckle easy on this just take the losses and move on to conquer the Asian market.
So yes, its really quite evil, go after the company that does not have much of a stake in this continent first, so they'll be more likely to give in.
If this a true lawsuit, its weird that the first company they go after is a foreign game developer. If they actually thought they would win why not first go after local companies like Mythic, Turbine, or Blizzard?
Because they're relying on racist sentaments in the Texas court system to win. If the lawsuit is filed in any other court system besides Texas, it would have been thrown out long ago.
But seeing this is Texas we're talking about here. NCsoft is in trouble unless Blizzard or Sony USA comes to their aid.
That has got to be one of the stupidest things I have ever heard...
Z
They wern't relying on racisim anyway... Eastern texas is just well known for upholding the patient law. So they had an advantage because that court was extremely biased towad the patent holder normally.
That would be why they had a change of venue and they're now trying the case in Northern California, which is also a little bit favortist toward the patent holder but their courts are a little less wacky.
Also NCSoft does have coporate holdings in the US, and they run their games here too. There is no reason why they wouldn't go after NCSoft first, its technically the 2nd most lucritive MMO Maker out there, and it has no larger parent company to support it like SoE And Activision Blizzard do.
NCSoft makes a PERFECT target.
Like the previous poster said. They filed in East Texas because they are known for upholding laws pertaining to patents plain and simple and to the point of the matter. Southern states tend to get a bad rap about having a racial issue which I myself don't see to be any more than any northern state. After all we don't have a inner city areas that are commonly coined China Town or Little Italy.
So maybe Asian video game companies are finally going to learn a lesson and stop cranking out low-budget P2P games that act as time vampires on the already beat-down MMOer.
So maybe Asian video game companies are finally going to learn a lesson and stop cranking out low-budget P2P games that act as time vampires on the already beat-down MMOer.
You obviously have not read any of the thread...
If NCSoft loses Blizzard and SoE and every other MMO maker is next..
If you like having MMOS in the US you should hope NCSoft wins.
So maybe Asian video game companies are finally going to learn a lesson and stop cranking out low-budget P2P games that act as time vampires on the already beat-down MMOer.
You obviously have not read any of the thread...
If NCSoft loses Blizzard and SoE and every other MMO maker is next..
If you like having MMOS in the US you should hope NCSoft wins.
I was not singling out NCSoft. True, I didn't bother to read the rest of the thread because my comment didn't pertain just to NCSoft. I was moreso talking about garbage companies that create games only to suck money from their players. NCSoft did this with a couple of their games. That was what I was referring to.
So maybe Asian video game companies are finally going to learn a lesson and stop cranking out low-budget P2P games that act as time vampires on the already beat-down MMOer.
You obviously have not read any of the thread...
If NCSoft loses Blizzard and SoE and every other MMO maker is next..
If you like having MMOS in the US you should hope NCSoft wins.
I was not singling out NCSoft. True, I didn't bother to read the rest of the thread because my comment didn't pertain just to NCSoft. I was moreso talking about garbage companies that create games only to suck money from their players. NCSoft did this with a couple of their games. That was what I was referring to.
Yes but again, if they lose this fight then we all lose... we being the people living in the United States.
I personally enjoy MMOs and would lke to continue enjoying them, espeically NOT Worlds.com's "mmo"
Wishing bad upon NCSoft seems silly, after all most of their games arn't nearly as grindy as the Free to Play ones that come out of Asia. That and again, if they lose we all do.
So maybe Asian video game companies are finally going to learn a lesson and stop cranking out low-budget P2P games that act as time vampires on the already beat-down MMOer.
You obviously have not read any of the thread...
If NCSoft loses Blizzard and SoE and every other MMO maker is next..
If you like having MMOS in the US you should hope NCSoft wins.
I was not singling out NCSoft. True, I didn't bother to read the rest of the thread because my comment didn't pertain just to NCSoft. I was moreso talking about garbage companies that create games only to suck money from their players. NCSoft did this with a couple of their games. That was what I was referring to.
What you said has nothing to do with the topic. :S Worlds.com is sued on grounds of a virtual world, a chat room where avatars can meet each other in a virtual environment.... Nothing to do with you being angry at certain game companies.
This is a dumb case. Everyones mentioned Meridian 59 but what of NeverWinter Nights. It was made for AOL and came out in 1991 BEFORE this company was even created. I think when it first came out it could support 200 people. Later it was upgraded to 500 people and it is the first graphical mmo game. There was an avatar, a chat and we met near the vaults to barter all the time.
Ahh the memories of that game.
Anyway, SSI, TSR, AOL started developing NWN back in 1989. Wizards of the coast should sue Worlds.com for claiming their original idea belong to worlds.
"It is better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees,"
If this a true lawsuit, its weird that the first company they go after is a foreign game developer. If they actually thought they would win why not first go after local companies like Mythic, Turbine, or Blizzard?
Because they're relying on racist sentaments in the Texas court system to win. If the lawsuit is filed in any other court system besides Texas, it would have been thrown out long ago.
But seeing this is Texas we're talking about here. NCsoft is in trouble unless Blizzard or Sony USA comes to their aid.
That has got to be one of the stupidest things I have ever heard...
Z
They wern't relying on racisim anyway... Eastern texas is just well known for upholding the patient law. So they had an advantage because that court was extremely biased towad the patent holder normally.
That would be why they had a change of venue and they're now trying the case in Northern California, which is also a little bit favortist toward the patent holder but their courts are a little less wacky.
Also NCSoft does have coporate holdings in the US, and they run their games here too. There is no reason why they wouldn't go after NCSoft first, its technically the 2nd most lucritive MMO Maker out there, and it has no larger parent company to support it like SoE And Activision Blizzard do.
NCSoft makes a PERFECT target.
Their main Coporate HQ tho is in Korea. They might have Offices here in the US but so do companies like Sony and Nintendo. Hell I have a Sony Corporate Office in the city I live in and can get to it in less than 15 minutes. It doesnt mean that their a US company it just means their smart enough to have international offices.
If you want a true lawsuit that would suprise you ponder why the makers of DDR(Dance Dance Revolution a very popular game in Japan and somewhat in the US) has not sued the makers of either Rock Band or Guitar Hero. If you look at them the on screen displays are almost very similar.
"Possibly we humans can exist without actually having to fight. But many of us have chosen to fight. For what reason? To protect something? Protect what? Ourselves? The future? If we kill people to protect ourselves and this future, then what sort of future is it, and what will we have become? There is no future for those who have died. And what of those who did the killing? Is happiness to be found in a future that is grasped with blood stained hands? Is that the truth?"
Like someone posted somewhere if worlds.com wins this, its bad news for MMOs being released in the US, im guessing smaller companies will just pull the plug on their projects or just not release in the US so they cant be bullied by worlds.com and this is the worrying bit.
If this a true lawsuit, its weird that the first company they go after is a foreign game developer. If they actually thought they would win why not first go after local companies like Mythic, Turbine, or Blizzard?
Because they're relying on racist sentaments in the Texas court system to win. If the lawsuit is filed in any other court system besides Texas, it would have been thrown out long ago.
But seeing this is Texas we're talking about here. NCsoft is in trouble unless Blizzard or Sony USA comes to their aid.
That has got to be one of the stupidest things I have ever heard...
Z
They wern't relying on racisim anyway... Eastern texas is just well known for upholding the patient law. So they had an advantage because that court was extremely biased towad the patent holder normally.
That would be why they had a change of venue and they're now trying the case in Northern California, which is also a little bit favortist toward the patent holder but their courts are a little less wacky.
Also NCSoft does have coporate holdings in the US, and they run their games here too. There is no reason why they wouldn't go after NCSoft first, its technically the 2nd most lucritive MMO Maker out there, and it has no larger parent company to support it like SoE And Activision Blizzard do.
NCSoft makes a PERFECT target.
Their main Coporate HQ tho is in Korea. They might have Offices here in the US but so do companies like Sony and Nintendo. Hell I have a Sony Corporate Office in the city I live in and can get to it in less than 15 minutes. It doesnt mean that their a US company it just means their smart enough to have international offices.
If you want a true lawsuit that would suprise you ponder why the makers of DDR(Dance Dance Revolution a very popular game in Japan and somewhat in the US) has not sued the makers of either Rock Band or Guitar Hero. If you look at them the on screen displays are almost very similar.
They are suing because the company NCSoft has released MMO's in North America..
Not because they've released games in Korea...
So yes, they are not an American company, however the lawsuit doesn't state that they are... Its stating that they are relesing games that violate AMERICAN patent law. Which is why they are suing them in AMERICA because that is where the "crime" is taking place.
If someone goes to Austrailia and shoots someone in Austrailia do they get tried in their home town of Buffalo New York? No they get tried in Austrialia...
Just what exactly did they patent? Every single MMOG out there? That can't be right. They must have patented a model or computer programming which may or may not have been used by others. In this day and age you can't patent kleenex or plates or the wheel anymore.
-Would you like cheddar or swiss cheese? -Yes. -...
Just what exactly did they patent? Every single MMOG out there? That can't be right. They must have patented a model or computer programming which may or may not have been used by others. In this day and age you can't patent kleenex or plates or the wheel anymore.
They patented the "mangement of a 3d avatar in a 3d space" and other really vauge things too.
If you google NCSoft vs Worlds.com there are many many websites that are tracking this case very closely. They basicly claim they own the rights to 3D avatars being used to buy and sell and trade and interact in a 3D virtual envrioment, and the client to host system that it uses.
Also they claim to own the rights to the chat features that are currently used in most MMOs and the methods at which they are processed by the client to host system.
Its very perticular and very technical, even I don't understand most of the specifics, but the bottom line is they think they own MMO's in North America, or atleast in the United States.
For an example it would be if someone were to sue Kleenex saying that the process at which they weave the fibers to make the tissue the way they do is patented. Also the font on the box it patented, and perhaps the delivery system at which they have the Kleenex folded so a new one always comes out after you pull out the first one.
So yeah, its not patenting Kleenex, its patenting the things that make Kleenex, Kleenex.
Well first thing is NCsoft to hire experts to sort out the mess which is this patent. As i understand it they have patented every 3D Environement game with an avatar. What if i signed a paper and wrote on it that i owned the United States of America? Would that make me president?
They're going for money. So much it's rediculous. Actually don't even hire experts, let them explain to the judge they own blizzard's game rights and every single MMOG out there.
A judge must understand the magnitude of this claim and the impact on the established MMOG companies and the people using their services. This would change the MMOG culture as we know it. Some companies would survive the blow where others would not.
I'm sure world.com is a respectable organisation but something like this in the current context is laughable. Let them do the work. Don't jump in the wagon it's a mess which would only confuse the judge further.
Not a single person in the MMOG industry is with world.com. No one.
-Would you like cheddar or swiss cheese? -Yes. -...
This is not an indictment of the US legal system (which is heavily flawed). This is a suit before the US Patent and Trademark Office. Administrative law courts are an entirely different animal from what you think of as the court system.
The US Constitution (and not in an amendment) says that the US shall issue patents. Patents basically only last for 17 years (or less). This isn't copyright law, which thanks to Bob Dylan and Disney has been pushed into the realm of 150 years.
All that happens in a case like this is MMO software makers would have to pay royalties to Worlds. It's like the ladies who wrote "Happy Birthday' (copyright, not a patent) and people have to pay them money to use it in their film or program. The patent does NOT prevent anyone else from selling that product...only from doing so for free.
There is nothing ridiculous about this case being brought. When the facts are known and the decision is handed down (which may go to the Supreme Court if it's adverse to NCSoft) then you can start talking about ridiculousness and greed. We don't know anything factual yet. Patent infringement is often fairly clear cut, unlike other elements of the law which get a lot of media attention.
Believe me, if you'd worked hard to create something and gone through the lengthy, annoying, and expensive (in foreign markets) patent process, you'd expect your work to be protected.
Then again, 95% of the people who read this are probably downloading songs or games that somebody else wrote, so I suppose none of you care.
This is not an indictment of the US legal system (which is heavily flawed). This is a suit before the US Patent and Trademark Office. Administrative law courts are an entirely different animal from what you think of as the court system. The US Constitution (and not in an amendment) says that the US shall issue patents. Patents basically only last for 17 years (or less). This isn't copyright law, which thanks to Bob Dylan and Disney has been pushed into the realm of 150 years. All that happens in a case like this is MMO software makers would have to pay royalties to Worlds. It's like the ladies who wrote "Happy Birthday' (copyright, not a patent) and people have to pay them money to use it in their film or program. The patent does NOT prevent anyone else from selling that product...only from doing so for free. There is nothing ridiculous about this case being brought. When the facts are known and the decision is handed down (which may go to the Supreme Court if it's adverse to NCSoft) then you can start talking about ridiculousness and greed. We don't know anything factual yet. Patent infringement is often fairly clear cut, unlike other elements of the law which get a lot of media attention.
Agree with everything you've said except for the last part. We already know it's a ridiculous claim and what the claim is.
Things like this only happen in America. When will american judges grow some balls and stop pathetic lawsuits like this even making a court room. And why NCSOFT? Why not start with blizzard?
Agreed
To answer the question they go against NCSOFT first to target a big name MMO maker thats foriegn so they can then get a case law for a fight against blizzard. Filing the case in texas is a smart move legally speaking as most texas judges are racist as all hell and will rule in favor of worlds just becuase they are a US company and NCSOFT is foriegn. I dare you to go to texas and ask 10 people in east texas what they think of Koreans and they will say they need to all be killed. Its simple stacking the deck and with the case law of a win against NCSOFT they will have a much easier time of sueing an american based company like blizzard.
Comments
I believe thjey are trying to inforce a certain aspect of online we have seen as of late.That would be anything similar to things like HABBA hotel,the problem is that you can't hold up a patent on something you NEVER created,it was out long before Worlds.com used it.I have not seen the actual documents,but i assume it involves avatars,social chat rooms and a portal/hub for players to meet up.Loging into a game does not mean you are there to meet up with anyone as MANY players login to play solo.witch is why they are talking about the SOCIAL aspect,a sort of meeting place ,just like HABBA hotel.I guess if anything ,since Habba Hotel is foreign,Worlds could patent the USA rights...i think,not sure how patent laws work exactly.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Again, Why would you go after all of them at once?
It would cost billions in court fees to sue every MMO maker at the same time.
The way they are doing it is THE ONLY way they could win, target a smaller company that has a lot of money to lose so they can collect a fat check off them and then continue on the war path to the next MMO maker, which would have more money to throw at them legally and more money to be won if Worlds.com could win.
Because the bigger companies like Activision Blizzard, EA Mythic. Sony USA, and Turbine will pay out of court before it even gets to trial. That is much faster than suing 1 little company whos main office isnt even in the same country that the Patent is filed in.
You do realize if they settled out of court that would be Worlds.com winning right?
So they would have to pay royalties to Worlds.com... For probably what would be a long long time...
They would fight this law suit with every ounce of their being and fight it to win, Worlds.com does not want to get tied up in court for years, they want to force a little company to buckle.
If they can bleed NCSoft then maybe NCsoft would settle out of court, since they're not an american company and the patent is only an AMERICAN patent.
Hence they could buckle easy on this just take the losses and move on to conquer the Asian market.
So yes, its really quite evil, go after the company that does not have much of a stake in this continent first, so they'll be more likely to give in.
Omg dont they ever give up.
Because they're relying on racist sentaments in the Texas court system to win. If the lawsuit is filed in any other court system besides Texas, it would have been thrown out long ago.
But seeing this is Texas we're talking about here. NCsoft is in trouble unless Blizzard or Sony USA comes to their aid.
That has got to be one of the stupidest things I have ever heard...
Z
They wern't relying on racisim anyway... Eastern texas is just well known for upholding the patient law. So they had an advantage because that court was extremely biased towad the patent holder normally.
That would be why they had a change of venue and they're now trying the case in Northern California, which is also a little bit favortist toward the patent holder but their courts are a little less wacky.
Also NCSoft does have coporate holdings in the US, and they run their games here too. There is no reason why they wouldn't go after NCSoft first, its technically the 2nd most lucritive MMO Maker out there, and it has no larger parent company to support it like SoE And Activision Blizzard do.
NCSoft makes a PERFECT target.
Like the previous poster said. They filed in East Texas because they are known for upholding laws pertaining to patents plain and simple and to the point of the matter. Southern states tend to get a bad rap about having a racial issue which I myself don't see to be any more than any northern state. After all we don't have a inner city areas that are commonly coined China Town or Little Italy.
So maybe Asian video game companies are finally going to learn a lesson and stop cranking out low-budget P2P games that act as time vampires on the already beat-down MMOer.
You obviously have not read any of the thread...
If NCSoft loses Blizzard and SoE and every other MMO maker is next..
If you like having MMOS in the US you should hope NCSoft wins.
You obviously have not read any of the thread...
If NCSoft loses Blizzard and SoE and every other MMO maker is next..
If you like having MMOS in the US you should hope NCSoft wins.
I was not singling out NCSoft. True, I didn't bother to read the rest of the thread because my comment didn't pertain just to NCSoft. I was moreso talking about garbage companies that create games only to suck money from their players. NCSoft did this with a couple of their games. That was what I was referring to.
You obviously have not read any of the thread...
If NCSoft loses Blizzard and SoE and every other MMO maker is next..
If you like having MMOS in the US you should hope NCSoft wins.
I was not singling out NCSoft. True, I didn't bother to read the rest of the thread because my comment didn't pertain just to NCSoft. I was moreso talking about garbage companies that create games only to suck money from their players. NCSoft did this with a couple of their games. That was what I was referring to.
Yes but again, if they lose this fight then we all lose... we being the people living in the United States.
I personally enjoy MMOs and would lke to continue enjoying them, espeically NOT Worlds.com's "mmo"
Wishing bad upon NCSoft seems silly, after all most of their games arn't nearly as grindy as the Free to Play ones that come out of Asia. That and again, if they lose we all do.
You obviously have not read any of the thread...
If NCSoft loses Blizzard and SoE and every other MMO maker is next..
If you like having MMOS in the US you should hope NCSoft wins.
I was not singling out NCSoft. True, I didn't bother to read the rest of the thread because my comment didn't pertain just to NCSoft. I was moreso talking about garbage companies that create games only to suck money from their players. NCSoft did this with a couple of their games. That was what I was referring to.
What you said has nothing to do with the topic. :S Worlds.com is sued on grounds of a virtual world, a chat room where avatars can meet each other in a virtual environment.... Nothing to do with you being angry at certain game companies.
(,,,)=^__^=(,,,)
This is a dumb case. Everyones mentioned Meridian 59 but what of NeverWinter Nights. It was made for AOL and came out in 1991 BEFORE this company was even created. I think when it first came out it could support 200 people. Later it was upgraded to 500 people and it is the first graphical mmo game. There was an avatar, a chat and we met near the vaults to barter all the time.
Ahh the memories of that game.
Anyway, SSI, TSR, AOL started developing NWN back in 1989. Wizards of the coast should sue Worlds.com for claiming their original idea belong to worlds.
"It is better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees,"
Because they're relying on racist sentaments in the Texas court system to win. If the lawsuit is filed in any other court system besides Texas, it would have been thrown out long ago.
But seeing this is Texas we're talking about here. NCsoft is in trouble unless Blizzard or Sony USA comes to their aid.
That has got to be one of the stupidest things I have ever heard...
Z
They wern't relying on racisim anyway... Eastern texas is just well known for upholding the patient law. So they had an advantage because that court was extremely biased towad the patent holder normally.
That would be why they had a change of venue and they're now trying the case in Northern California, which is also a little bit favortist toward the patent holder but their courts are a little less wacky.
Also NCSoft does have coporate holdings in the US, and they run their games here too. There is no reason why they wouldn't go after NCSoft first, its technically the 2nd most lucritive MMO Maker out there, and it has no larger parent company to support it like SoE And Activision Blizzard do.
NCSoft makes a PERFECT target.
Their main Coporate HQ tho is in Korea. They might have Offices here in the US but so do companies like Sony and Nintendo. Hell I have a Sony Corporate Office in the city I live in and can get to it in less than 15 minutes. It doesnt mean that their a US company it just means their smart enough to have international offices.
If you want a true lawsuit that would suprise you ponder why the makers of DDR(Dance Dance Revolution a very popular game in Japan and somewhat in the US) has not sued the makers of either Rock Band or Guitar Hero. If you look at them the on screen displays are almost very similar.
"Possibly we humans can exist without actually having to fight. But many of us have chosen to fight. For what reason? To protect something? Protect what? Ourselves? The future? If we kill people to protect ourselves and this future, then what sort of future is it, and what will we have become? There is no future for those who have died. And what of those who did the killing? Is happiness to be found in a future that is grasped with blood stained hands? Is that the truth?"
Like someone posted somewhere if worlds.com wins this, its bad news for MMOs being released in the US, im guessing smaller companies will just pull the plug on their projects or just not release in the US so they cant be bullied by worlds.com and this is the worrying bit.
I wish NCSoft moves their all operations from US. And after that the next company and then the next.
And this should continue until the US juridical system finds out they have been use as a tool for fraud.
I don't want US to get hurt economically or anything like that, their IP laws are just not too well made.
companys going poor cause they suck and now when they need money the most everyone is sueing each other in hopes to getting some big cash
Wow this Worlds.com sound like fucking idiots lmao. EVE did that same thing with the 3D avatars i believe
±MeDiC±
***BREAKING NEWS***
I have a patent on the sandwich design and Im going after Subway!
Because they're relying on racist sentaments in the Texas court system to win. If the lawsuit is filed in any other court system besides Texas, it would have been thrown out long ago.
But seeing this is Texas we're talking about here. NCsoft is in trouble unless Blizzard or Sony USA comes to their aid.
That has got to be one of the stupidest things I have ever heard...
Z
They wern't relying on racisim anyway... Eastern texas is just well known for upholding the patient law. So they had an advantage because that court was extremely biased towad the patent holder normally.
That would be why they had a change of venue and they're now trying the case in Northern California, which is also a little bit favortist toward the patent holder but their courts are a little less wacky.
Also NCSoft does have coporate holdings in the US, and they run their games here too. There is no reason why they wouldn't go after NCSoft first, its technically the 2nd most lucritive MMO Maker out there, and it has no larger parent company to support it like SoE And Activision Blizzard do.
NCSoft makes a PERFECT target.
Their main Coporate HQ tho is in Korea. They might have Offices here in the US but so do companies like Sony and Nintendo. Hell I have a Sony Corporate Office in the city I live in and can get to it in less than 15 minutes. It doesnt mean that their a US company it just means their smart enough to have international offices.
If you want a true lawsuit that would suprise you ponder why the makers of DDR(Dance Dance Revolution a very popular game in Japan and somewhat in the US) has not sued the makers of either Rock Band or Guitar Hero. If you look at them the on screen displays are almost very similar.
They are suing because the company NCSoft has released MMO's in North America..
Not because they've released games in Korea...
So yes, they are not an American company, however the lawsuit doesn't state that they are... Its stating that they are relesing games that violate AMERICAN patent law. Which is why they are suing them in AMERICA because that is where the "crime" is taking place.
If someone goes to Austrailia and shoots someone in Austrailia do they get tried in their home town of Buffalo New York? No they get tried in Austrialia...
Just what exactly did they patent? Every single MMOG out there? That can't be right. They must have patented a model or computer programming which may or may not have been used by others. In this day and age you can't patent kleenex or plates or the wheel anymore.
-Would you like cheddar or swiss cheese?
-Yes.
-...
They patented the "mangement of a 3d avatar in a 3d space" and other really vauge things too.
If you google NCSoft vs Worlds.com there are many many websites that are tracking this case very closely. They basicly claim they own the rights to 3D avatars being used to buy and sell and trade and interact in a 3D virtual envrioment, and the client to host system that it uses.
Also they claim to own the rights to the chat features that are currently used in most MMOs and the methods at which they are processed by the client to host system.
Its very perticular and very technical, even I don't understand most of the specifics, but the bottom line is they think they own MMO's in North America, or atleast in the United States.
For an example it would be if someone were to sue Kleenex saying that the process at which they weave the fibers to make the tissue the way they do is patented. Also the font on the box it patented, and perhaps the delivery system at which they have the Kleenex folded so a new one always comes out after you pull out the first one.
So yeah, its not patenting Kleenex, its patenting the things that make Kleenex, Kleenex.
Well first thing is NCsoft to hire experts to sort out the mess which is this patent. As i understand it they have patented every 3D Environement game with an avatar. What if i signed a paper and wrote on it that i owned the United States of America? Would that make me president?
They're going for money. So much it's rediculous. Actually don't even hire experts, let them explain to the judge they own blizzard's game rights and every single MMOG out there.
A judge must understand the magnitude of this claim and the impact on the established MMOG companies and the people using their services. This would change the MMOG culture as we know it. Some companies would survive the blow where others would not.
I'm sure world.com is a respectable organisation but something like this in the current context is laughable. Let them do the work. Don't jump in the wagon it's a mess which would only confuse the judge further.
Not a single person in the MMOG industry is with world.com. No one.
-Would you like cheddar or swiss cheese?
-Yes.
-...
This is not an indictment of the US legal system (which is heavily flawed). This is a suit before the US Patent and Trademark Office. Administrative law courts are an entirely different animal from what you think of as the court system.
The US Constitution (and not in an amendment) says that the US shall issue patents. Patents basically only last for 17 years (or less). This isn't copyright law, which thanks to Bob Dylan and Disney has been pushed into the realm of 150 years.
All that happens in a case like this is MMO software makers would have to pay royalties to Worlds. It's like the ladies who wrote "Happy Birthday' (copyright, not a patent) and people have to pay them money to use it in their film or program. The patent does NOT prevent anyone else from selling that product...only from doing so for free.
There is nothing ridiculous about this case being brought. When the facts are known and the decision is handed down (which may go to the Supreme Court if it's adverse to NCSoft) then you can start talking about ridiculousness and greed. We don't know anything factual yet. Patent infringement is often fairly clear cut, unlike other elements of the law which get a lot of media attention.
Believe me, if you'd worked hard to create something and gone through the lengthy, annoying, and expensive (in foreign markets) patent process, you'd expect your work to be protected.
Then again, 95% of the people who read this are probably downloading songs or games that somebody else wrote, so I suppose none of you care.
I, pussaykat hereby patent Hydrogens.
Bow or i will break your necks.
-Would you like cheddar or swiss cheese?
-Yes.
-...
Agree with everything you've said except for the last part. We already know it's a ridiculous claim and what the claim is.
Link Click Me
(,,,)=^__^=(,,,)
This is the MOST current and up to date website wtih all the details that I have found.
I don't know how to make something a link, so um... sorry? >,<
http://www.massively.com/tag/worlds.com-vs-ncsoft/ <--- This has ALL the tiny tidbits of info you could possibly desire!
Happy reading!
Agreed
To answer the question they go against NCSOFT first to target a big name MMO maker thats foriegn so they can then get a case law for a fight against blizzard. Filing the case in texas is a smart move legally speaking as most texas judges are racist as all hell and will rule in favor of worlds just becuase they are a US company and NCSOFT is foriegn. I dare you to go to texas and ask 10 people in east texas what they think of Koreans and they will say they need to all be killed. Its simple stacking the deck and with the case law of a win against NCSOFT they will have a much easier time of sueing an american based company like blizzard.
I am the monkey