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Gamereactor reviews DF. 4/ 10

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  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    The color is the Kool-Aid ?

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    Who cares if anyh of the sites mirror Eurogamers?the whole point was that they lied and the reviewer acting on behalf of Eurogamer lied.

    Then there is the FACT that not everyone agrees on everything,so for every site you find that agrees,you can find many that don't.

    What i have seen is actual BS posting for the most part,people LOOKING for the negative of DF,instead of just looking at the game for what it does .I don't ever remember TAOS saying his game was ground breaking,or that they have the best graphics around or they have the best animations around.

    I do not get all wound up on DF,because i knew from the beginning what this game was about and what is had to offer and it was nothing that appealed to me.So in essence i could find a ton to complain about,but it is a game that is not designed to be fun for me,so i would be biased in my opinions.

    As an outsider looking at DF,i really don't see the fuss ,as IMO there is no such thing as a good PVP game anywhere in the RPG genre,as it DOES NOT belong in the RPG genre.PVP is something that SHOULD be relegated to the FPS genre,that is why it has so much drama and fails on so many fronts,and it DOES fail and not just in DF,but every RPG game that tries to use it.

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  • FariicFariic Member Posts: 1,546
    Originally posted by Wizardry


    Who cares if anyh of the sites mirror Eurogamers?the whole point was that they lied and the reviewer acting on behalf of Eurogamer lied.
    Then there is the FACT that not everyone agrees on everything,so for every site you find that agrees,you can find many that don't.
    What i have seen is actual BS posting for the most part,people LOOKING for the negative of DF,instead of just looking at the game for what it does .I don't ever remember TAOS saying his game was ground breaking,or that they have the best graphics around or they have the best animations around.
    I do not get all wound up on DF,because i knew from the beginning what this game was about and what is had to offer and it was nothing that appealed to me.So in essence i could find a ton to complain about,but it is a game that is not designed to be fun for me,so i would be biased in my opinions.
    As an outsider looking at DF,i really don't see the fuss ,as IMO there is no such thing as a good PVP game anywhere in the RPG genre,as it DOES NOT belong in the RPG genre.PVP is something that SHOULD be relegated to the FPS genre,that is why it has so much drama and fails on so many fronts,and it DOES fail and not just in DF,but every RPG game that tries to use it.



     

    Pardon me?

    If the EG review was a lie, then why did this review point out the exact same things?



     

     

  • EbolavirusEbolavirus Member Posts: 21
    Originally posted by Izure


    He said the game is made for pvp. And he is right, everything else is secondary. The review is right, if you like pvp you will like this game, he said 4 on game player, because 3 were missing because crafting isnt the best, and 3 were missing because you have to use a brain for finding mobs and it takes time.
     
    You can have someone stupid review a game, he needs to have a understanding of a game that does not hold your hand and show you the way all the time.
     
    If he would of played eve, or pre cu swg, then he would most likly love it.
     
    The hardcore rpger's do not like it, the hard core fpser's do not like it, but the ones in between love it, like me.
     
    I think the review needs to be done by someone who likes fps'ers and rpgs  and has a mindset of I want to get ready so I can kill someone.



     

    tbo this game is a turd,  ive played pre-cu swg and still am playing EVE since launch loved em both,  have played darkfall (unfortunatly) everything these reviewers are saying is true i would've rated it low .   Also 2/10 or 4/10 might actually be a compliment

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  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by Wizardry


    Who cares if anyh of the sites mirror Eurogamers?the whole point was that they lied and the reviewer acting on behalf of Eurogamer lied.
    Then there is the FACT that not everyone agrees on everything,so for every site you find that agrees,you can find many that don't.
    What i have seen is actual BS posting for the most part,people LOOKING for the negative of DF,instead of just looking at the game for what it does .I don't ever remember TAOS saying his game was ground breaking,or that they have the best graphics around or they have the best animations around.
    I do not get all wound up on DF,because i knew from the beginning what this game was about and what is had to offer and it was nothing that appealed to me.So in essence i could find a ton to complain about,but it is a game that is not designed to be fun for me,so i would be biased in my opinions.
    As an outsider looking at DF,i really don't see the fuss ,as IMO there is no such thing as a good PVP game anywhere in the RPG genre,as it DOES NOT belong in the RPG genre.PVP is something that SHOULD be relegated to the FPS genre,that is why it has so much drama and fails on so many fronts,and it DOES fail and not just in DF,but every RPG game that tries to use it.



     

    you don't remember tasos saying all of that?  did you start following DF about an hour ago, and have never seen/heard of it before then?

    otherwise... he's said all of that and way far more.  i mean, his ai mimicks players so well that it can beta test and exploit just like a player.   and that, is seriously, only the tiniest tip of the iceberg.

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by Ebolavirus

    Originally posted by Izure


    He said the game is made for pvp. And he is right, everything else is secondary. The review is right, if you like pvp you will like this game, he said 4 on game player, because 3 were missing because crafting isnt the best, and 3 were missing because you have to use a brain for finding mobs and it takes time.
     
    You can have someone stupid review a game, he needs to have a understanding of a game that does not hold your hand and show you the way all the time.
     
    If he would of played eve, or pre cu swg, then he would most likly love it.
     
    The hardcore rpger's do not like it, the hard core fpser's do not like it, but the ones in between love it, like me.
     
    I think the review needs to be done by someone who likes fps'ers and rpgs  and has a mindset of I want to get ready so I can kill someone.



     

    tbo this game is a turd,  ive played pre-cu swg and still am playing EVE since launch loved em both,  have played darkfall (unfortunatly) everything these reviewers are saying is true i would've rated it low .   Also 2/10 or 4/10 might actually be a compliment



     

    maybe 4/10 is the lowest allowed rating for that site?

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • 0k210k21 Member Posts: 866

    "He said the game is complex, that means a retard can not play it."

    I'm sorry, but do you ever wonder why no one wants to play this game? 

    I want to play a complex game, not a broken one.

    Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.

  • ElectriceyeElectriceye Member UncommonPosts: 1,171

    I'd like to see how Tasos handles this. Will he ignore it? or entertain us once more?

    I hope it's the latter.

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  • javacjavac Member Posts: 1,175

    ok so a guy who admits to being a "simple carebear" (reviewer's words) doesn't really like a sandbox PVP game?

     

    i'm ok with that; i don't like WOW either.

     

     

  • 0k210k21 Member Posts: 866
    Originally posted by Electriceye


    I'd like to see how Tasos handles this. Will he ignore it? or entertain us once more?
    I hope it's the latter.

     

    Pissing off games companies is unfortunately something that I enjoy doing immensely, especially if their CEO's are stubbornly arrogant, its a shame I haven't been able to really get the attention of the bigger companies though yet :(

    Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.

  • egotripegotrip Member Posts: 875
    Originally posted by Electriceye


    I'd like to see how Tasos handles this. Will he ignore it? or entertain us once more?
    I hope it's the latter.

    I think he can't say much this time because as far as i read in the review the account was purchased and not given to them and that, i think, was the thing that stung him more the first time . The fact that he gave up a couple accounts for free thinking he would get an praising review  that way but what he got instead  was the exact opposite.

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  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by javac


    ok so a guy who admits to being a "simple carebear" (reviewer's words) doesn't really like a sandbox PVP game?
     
    i'm ok with that; i don't like WOW either.
     
     



     

    you don't think it says something that the only two "official" type of reviews, thus far, have been by people who say they are not pvpers?

     

    wonder why that is...

     

    oh yeah, it's cuz of the pvp in this game.

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • X-PorterX-Porter Member Posts: 229

    Well, I guess it's official. Darkfall is an evil wind of being spillmekanikker.

    That'll teach you powerful brats to hang in a beginner and butcher the freshmen. For shame.

    Any bets the Google translation of Tasos' rebuttal will read something like,"Lier! You not make playtime, logs say! Logs say!!"

  • JGMIIIJGMIII Member Posts: 1,282

    I hope AV gets their shit together later on I would like to actually try DF once they release a Free trial.

    I just hope by that time people are still playing it.

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  • GyrusGyrus Member UncommonPosts: 2,413
    Originally posted by damian7
    maybe 4/10 is the lowest allowed rating for that site?



     

    I once took on a reviewer about the review of another game (I said his review was too high) and he said that a review score on his site (Strategy Informer) of 5/10 would suggest a game that would not even install correctly.

    Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.

  • ElikalElikal Member UncommonPosts: 7,912

    The simple truth is, DFO does contain so little, it doesnt take weeks to figure it out. DFO isnt EQ. Or UO. There is so little game, a short time playing it and you have seen the most. *shrug*

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  • AlanakoAlanako Member Posts: 188


    Originally posted by Izure

    He said the game is made for pvp. And he is right, everything else is secondary. The review is right, if you like pvp you will like this game, he said 4 on game player, because 3 were missing because crafting isnt the best, and 3 were missing because you have to use a brain for finding mobs and it takes time.
     
    You can have someone stupid review a game, he needs to have a understanding of a game that does not hold your hand and show you the way all the time.
     
    If he would of played eve, or pre cu swg, then he would most likly love it.
     
    The hardcore rpger's do not like it, the hard core fpser's do not like it, but the ones in between love it, like me.
     
    I think the review needs to be done by someone who likes fps'ers and rpgs  and has a mindset of I want to get ready so I can kill someone.


     You are wrong. To review something you dont send someone with a taste for it. You sent someone that match you target audience, so his OPINION match the one of you readers. And for eurogamers an gamereactor readers, the reviewers experience is the same that they would find if they play the game, a complete waste of time.
    If you arent smart enough to understand that, im sorry for you.... But you always could go back to Darkfall, there you dont need to think, only spam leftclicks
  • FariicFariic Member Posts: 1,546
    Originally posted by javac


    ok so a guy who admits to being a "simple carebear" (reviewer's words) doesn't really like a sandbox PVP game?
     
    i'm ok with that; i don't like WOW either.
     
     



     

    I like how you do that.

    I'm going to break down what he said for you.

    "The biggest problem I have with Dark Fall Online is that the game has too many annoying elements that feels old-fashioned, outdated and unnecessarily complex, so I simply do not manage to have so fun with the game that I would like would like. Maybe I'm not hardcore NOK, maybe I am a simple "care bear" that requires to get my gaming served a little more sophisticated and available. There is no doubt that a good portion of players who have fun with Dark Fall Online, and who like the uncompromising game mechanics and the anarchic game. But for me this was an evil wind of being spillmekanikker and cumbersome solutions that I can hardly recommend to others."

    -----------------------------------

    He said the game would be something that he would like.

    He was pointing out that the game itself makes you not want to like it. 

    He's not saying he's a carebear.  He's taking a shot at the game.

    He's saying that the people that really enjoy darkfall, like bad games.

     

     

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811

    This review confirms the biggest joke about Darkfall: its best feature is the graphics. So many months and years listening the fanbots saying:

    gameplay > graphics.

    And now so it happens thatt... the best thing about your game is... the graphics!

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by altairzq


    This review confirms the biggest joke about Darkfall: its best feature is the graphics. So many months and years listening the fanbots saying:
    gameplay > graphics.
    And now so it happens thatt... the best thing about your game is... the graphics!



     

    I thought it was quite funny that the graphics were rated higher than the gameplay.

    Considering how terrible Darkfalls graphics are, that says quite a lot.

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    This is classic, this pos game is getting it s exposure. Not how Tasos wants I m sure, but he could always cry like a little baby noy getting his toy.

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    Oh man i can't wait for Tasos' tantrum...errr...i mean rebuttal!

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  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    Another Ed Zitron nonsense. But these one is honest about him being biased

    "The biggest problem I have with Dark Fall Online is that the game has too many annoying elements that feels old-fashioned, outdated and unnecessarily complex, so I simply do not manage to have so fun with the game that I would like would like."

    These are just the elments that make DarkFAll special and GOOD.

    DarkFall lead MMO back to their roots and this was a need step to escape from the mediocre crap mainstream companies release.

    Old_fashioned >>>> mainstream crap

    complex  >>>>>>>> mainstream crap

     

    he also give graphics the highest rating lol Its like he don't understand MMO's beside graphics lol. Mediocrity has destroyed the taste in some reviewer.

    DF is not alone with renewing the roots of MMO. There are some new MMO that try to do the same. DF is the first in that. Just some coneheads reviewer think their mainstream bullshit should be a measure for oher MMO.

    DF is rough, it has character, it is an origin.

    it is  8 / 10 

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  • egotripegotrip Member Posts: 875
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden


    Another Ed Zitron nonsense. But these one is honest about him being biased
    "The biggest problem I have with Dark Fall Online is that the game has too many annoying elements that feels old-fashioned, outdated and unnecessarily complex, so I simply do not manage to have so fun with the game that I would like would like."
    These are just the elments that make DarkFAll special and GOOD.
    DarkFall lead MMO back to their roots and this was a need step to escape from the mediocre crap mainstream companies release.
    Old_fashioned >>>> mainstream crap
    complex  >>>>>>>> mainstream crap
     
    he also give graphics the highest rating lol Its like he don't understand MMO's beside graphics lol. Mediocrity has destroyed the taste in some reviewer.
    DF is not alone with renewing the roots of MMO. There are some new MMO that try to do the same. DF is the first in that. Just some coneheads reviewer think their mainstream bullshit should be a measure for oher MMO.
    DF is rough, it has character, it is an origin.
    it is  8 / 10 

    .............the quoted post is

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