3 million in asia yes. However asian games never make a similar splash in the west as they do in the east. It might get up to half of WoW's sub numbers at most. It's a successor to Lineage 2 basically, but not a WoW killer. WoW killer can only come from the west sorry.
As far as graphics go, it would be pretty sad if a game in 09 looked worse than a game whose development started 10 years ago. However WoW never really had killer graphics, it's main appeal was the art syle that grabbed people's attention. Graphically superior games have come and gone but WoW remains on top still.
A more fair comparison would be between the two releases. That's basicall 4+ years difference between the two games. That's of course still a big time gap. If nothing else, I would expect the newer games to utilise some DX10 features. Pity.
In any case, comparing one game start of development time to the others release date is not a good comparison.
I'll give you 3 reasons why Aion will not dent WoW's subscription numbers. Anime characters and Gameguard. Pretty self explanatory, I think. I'll elaborate a bit, if it's not. Although anime is huge in Asia and although, over the years, it has been crammed down our throats with all those Dragonball Z's and Pokemon's, not everyone in the west likes anime. A lot of people still preffer a more western art style. Gameguard is a rootkit which messes with your system and prevents certain programs from running. It is also completely useless and serves more as an annoyance than an actual preventative method. Last but not least, it does not fully uninstall itself when you uninstall the game. The third reason is a personal option: If I was interested in playing a game like WoW, I'll just play WoW. See, I've played WoW. I've done every goal I set out for myself in WoW. I'm done with WoW and I want something new. Why would I want to play a game that's going to offer a similar experience as WoW? That's not something new. That's the same rehashed game play in a new, japanophile friendly, package.
Good News, I got an anti gameguard patch, It allows me to bot, Cheat, or disable any gameguard I need to, so it cannot control my pc in any way at all. Yes I know gameguard is a rootkit ^^.
Second I dont trust Software From other countries having access to my pc, So I limit what it can do to prevent anyone from hacking it, everything has to ask premission each time it wants to do another task, such as my email client, If I email one email it has to ask me if its okay to send it, If i want to email another it has to ask again, ect. As well as games I play online, if for any reason it wants to do an auto update, or modify any file in any way it has to ask to even scan it.
Third It is fully undetectable by any game GM's/Admins of being disabled, Besides even if they did find out anything at all, I could claim file corruption as I run no cheats of any kind.
Fourth, I run two Dual LGA 771 Processors in my pc which gives me a total of like 6GHZ CPU Speed with 8 GB OF RAM, so it is impossible to stop this pc from processing anything such as punk buster trying to eat up cpu speed to prevent hacks, I simply limit PB to one of my cpu, or cpu cores, and the other is still free to run whatever I want i to.
People who honesty think WoW if elves are mentioned really have lived behind a rock before they learned about WoW.
If there is something sure, than that Elves are a thousands of years old concept, its origins even religious of nature, that got used over and over in all kinds of fantasy or roleplaying media, and an ambundance of other references.
For example, Star Trek comes with its own Elves (Vulcans) and Darkelves (Romulans). And Star Trek is usually not even considered a form of Fantasy or SF Fantasy, but "true" Science Fiction.
Originally posted by Renoaku No the wow topics will not stop sorry to disappoint you, Here is why. All 2004, or mmo's that were released around wow's date have the basic concenpts. Mounts Flying Mounts Eating/Drinking to recover MP Sitting Epic Armors/Legendary Armors Hunters Mages, But these go back to dnd, although most remember it as wow, ect. Elves, Most people always think of WOW when they hear ELF. What about the next Gen 2010 MMO's where you actually Do quests, Get Cutscenes/RP to get Skills/spells so you actually know how you learned to summon water, or food, or cast a spell instead of just walking up to the NPC and saying. Hi (NAME HERE) I am level 50, I want to learn this, and just mgaically knowing it. this type of stuff bores me now a days, waiting for the next gen stuff ^^.
lol, I stopped reading this topic at this post. I can't handle it anymore.
Going by NCsofts track record I would not worry to mush about Aion being a WoW killer.
1, They got cought selling Gold to thier customers in Linage 2
2, They are a Korean company, nothing good ever came out of that country
3, It looks to be clone, they have taken stuff from alot of other games, so dont expect anything diffrent or new. Same shit diffrent name.
4, The game that will take the throne from wow has to bring something new to the Genre. I personaly think it will be some sort of FPS game, or RTS online game that brings something totaly new. TANK AND SPANK have been done for years now.
5, I can buy McDonalds(WoW) or i can buy Burger KIng(Aion) in the end they are both hamburgers. The next big MMO shuld be making Gordon Ramsy Hells kitchen food.. we need a hole new typ of game.
6, People will not give up years of gameplay just because a new game that offers the same thing have better grafics. War, Aoc and alot of other failed mmos have allready proven this in the last few years.
3 million in asia yes. However asian games never make a similar splash in the west as they do in the east. It might get up to half of WoW's sub numbers at most. It's a successor to Lineage 2 basically, but not a WoW killer. WoW killer can only come from the west sorry.
As far as graphics go, it would be pretty sad if a game in 09 looked worse than a game whose development started 10 years ago. However WoW never really had killer graphics, it's main appeal was the art syle that grabbed people's attention. Graphically superior games have come and gone but WoW remains on top still.
Lineage 2 came out before WoW, and its graphics still hold its own to any other game out there, even Aion.
can we please close this threat this argument is pointless
anyone with half a brain can see that. its just a waste of time talking about these types or arguments theres never a good outcome it ends up a flameing match and creates bad blood and bad press for mmorpg.com
so come on guys chill and respect eachother were all mmo players and all have veiws some might not agree on but that dont mean you cant talk in a civil manner
Going by NCsofts track record I would not worry to mush about Aion being a WoW killer. 1, They got cought selling Gold to thier customers in Linage 2 2, They are a Korean company, nothing good ever came out of that country 3, It looks to be clone, they have taken stuff from alot of other games, so dont expect anything diffrent or new. Same shit diffrent name. 4, The game that will take the throne from wow has to bring something new to the Genre. I personaly think it will be some sort of FPS game, or RTS online game that brings something totaly new. TANK AND SPANK have been done for years now. 5, I can buy McDonalds(WoW) or i can buy Burger KIng(Aion) in the end they are both hamburgers. The next big MMO shuld be making Gordon Ramsy Hells kitchen food.. we need a hole new typ of game. 6, People will not give up years of gameplay just because a new game that offers the same thing have better grafics. War, Aoc and alot of other failed mmos have allready proven this in the last few years.
1. No they didnt, but they got caught doing just as bad things, more importantly, the company that did it (NCsoft Austin) has been dissolved.
2. Whatever you say.
3. Every game could be called a clone, name any feature/aspect of WoW (that isn't something trivial), and I'll name the game WoW stole it from. There is absolutely nothing original or new in WoW that hasn't been done in a previous game.
4. FPS or RTS are not MMO's, and they are both already online, it would be like comparing WoW to CS, you can't do it anyway.
5. K.
6. Aion is more than just improved graphics, and it offers a lot more than WoW, like a real PvP experience.
Lol none of the shills get the fact the reason the average person plays WoW (the so called 'casual' player) is because most PC's can run it. You think the average run of the mill PC is going to run Aion with no issues? Combine that with the fact that the hardcore WoW player has already dismissed Aion due to a number of gameplay issues (visit any top level WoW guild forum if you don't believe me).
WAR was supposed to be the one. They even added new gameplay elements that at first was great but the execution was so bad that nothing came of it. The problem with PvP endgame is you are reliant on enough people to give a crap to participate and advance. When has that ever been successfull?
Lol none of the shills get the fact the reason the average person plays WoW (the so called 'casual' player) is because most PC's can run it. You think the average run of the mill PC is going to run Aion with no issues? Combine that with the fact that the hardcore WoW player has already dismissed Aion due to a number of gameplay issues (visit any top level WoW guild forum if you don't believe me).
WAR was supposed to be the one. They even added new gameplay elements that at first was great but the execution was so bad that nothing came of it. The problem with PvP endgame is you are reliant on enough people to give a crap to participate and advance. When has that ever been successfull?
Yes. Maybe you should actually learn what you're talking about before you start spewing BS. Aion is one of the best optimized games I have ever seen. Its pretty close to on par with wow performance.
Going by NCsofts track record I would not worry to mush about Aion being a WoW killer. 1, They got cought selling Gold to thier customers in Linage 2 2, They are a Korean company, nothing good ever came out of that country 3, It looks to be clone, they have taken stuff from alot of other games, so dont expect anything diffrent or new. Same shit diffrent name. 4, The game that will take the throne from wow has to bring something new to the Genre. I personaly think it will be some sort of FPS game, or RTS online game that brings something totaly new. TANK AND SPANK have been done for years now. 5, I can buy McDonalds(WoW) or i can buy Burger KIng(Aion) in the end they are both hamburgers. The next big MMO shuld be making Gordon Ramsy Hells kitchen food.. we need a hole new typ of game. 6, People will not give up years of gameplay just because a new game that offers the same thing have better grafics. War, Aoc and alot of other failed mmos have allready proven this in the last few years.
1. No they didnt, but they got caught doing just as bad things, more importantly, the company that did it (NCsoft Austin) has been dissolved.
2. Whatever you say.
3. Every game could be called a clone, name any feature/aspect of WoW (that isn't something trivial), and I'll name the game WoW stole it from. There is absolutely nothing original or new in WoW that hasn't been done in a previous game.
4. FPS or RTS are not MMO's, and they are both already online, it would be like comparing WoW to CS, you can't do it anyway.
5. K.
6. Aion is more than just improved graphics, and it offers a lot more than WoW, like a real PvP experience.
To be fair I do not play WOW or Lotro or WAR or AOC, Reason at the end of the day only AOC had something diffrent the combat system( but to many bugs to keep me subcribed) Aion no mather how many fetures you throw in is just more of the same with Korean MMO grafics. WE Have seen it all before and you wont get players to come over, If what they allready have is about the same.
Aion Will not kill WoW, they should be glad if they even get 500k subs in the west.
Im so tired of the old format of online games that im about to Puke! the only thing worth playing at this point is EVE, the rest is just more of the same all stuff we have seen for years.
3 million in asia yes. However asian games never make a similar splash in the west as they do in the east. It might get up to half of WoW's sub numbers at most. It's a successor to Lineage 2 basically, but not a WoW killer. WoW killer can only come from the west sorry.
As far as graphics go, it would be pretty sad if a game in 09 looked worse than a game whose development started 10 years ago. However WoW never really had killer graphics, it's main appeal was the art syle that grabbed people's attention. Graphically superior games have come and gone but WoW remains on top still.
Aion will most likely beat WoW in Asia, the question is wether it will be enough beating to become nr 1 in the World or will WoW stay number one because of their European, North American and Oceanic subscribers.
If the beating is hard enough in Asia and if they can get some decent numbers in the West, then they might just be able to beat WoW in wordwide subscription numbers, especially if Aion steals away WoW subs in Asia instead of stealing them from other mmo's or expanding the mmo market.
If you are interested in subscription or PCU numbers for MMORPG's, check out my site : http://mmodata.blogspot.be/ Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
3 million in asia yes. However asian games never make a similar splash in the west as they do in the east. It might get up to half of WoW's sub numbers at most. It's a successor to Lineage 2 basically, but not a WoW killer. WoW killer can only come from the west sorry.
As far as graphics go, it would be pretty sad if a game in 09 looked worse than a game whose development started 10 years ago. However WoW never really had killer graphics, it's main appeal was the art syle that grabbed people's attention. Graphically superior games have come and gone but WoW remains on top still.
Aion will most likely beat WoW in Asia, the question is wether it will be enough beating to become nr 1 in the World or will WoW stay number one because of their European, North American and Oceanic subscribers.
If the beating is hard enough in Asia and if they can get some decent numbers in the West, then they might just be able to beat WoW in wordwide subscription numbers, especially if Aion steals away WoW subs in Asia instead of stealing them from other mmo's or expanding the mmo market.
dont forget Blizzard also have a huge following in KOrea and asia, Starcraft annyone?? Dont bet on AION beating anything, WoW will reign a few years more. As developers dont look to be creating anything new but youst feeding us the same old TANK and SPANK. and WoW stil dose this typ of gameplay the best hands down
Going by NCsofts track record I would not worry to mush about Aion being a WoW killer. 1, They got cought selling Gold to thier customers in Linage 2 2, They are a Korean company, nothing good ever came out of that country 3, It looks to be clone, they have taken stuff from alot of other games, so dont expect anything diffrent or new. Same shit diffrent name. 4, The game that will take the throne from wow has to bring something new to the Genre. I personaly think it will be some sort of FPS game, or RTS online game that brings something totaly new. TANK AND SPANK have been done for years now. 5, I can buy McDonalds(WoW) or i can buy Burger KIng(Aion) in the end they are both hamburgers. The next big MMO shuld be making Gordon Ramsy Hells kitchen food.. we need a hole new typ of game. 6, People will not give up years of gameplay just because a new game that offers the same thing have better grafics. War, Aoc and alot of other failed mmos have allready proven this in the last few years.
1. No they didnt, but they got caught doing just as bad things, more importantly, the company that did it (NCsoft Austin) has been dissolved.
2. Whatever you say.
3. Every game could be called a clone, name any feature/aspect of WoW (that isn't something trivial), and I'll name the game WoW stole it from. There is absolutely nothing original or new in WoW that hasn't been done in a previous game.
4. FPS or RTS are not MMO's, and they are both already online, it would be like comparing WoW to CS, you can't do it anyway.
5. K.
6. Aion is more than just improved graphics, and it offers a lot more than WoW, like a real PvP experience.
To be fair I do not play WOW or Lotro or WAR or AOC, Reason at the end of the day only AOC had something diffrent the combat system( but to many bugs to keep me subcribed) Aion no mather how many fetures you throw in is just more of the same with Korean MMO grafics. WE Have seen it all before and you wont get players to come over, If what they allready have is about the same.
Aion Will not kill WoW, they should be glad if they even get 500k subs in the west.
Im so tired of the old format of online games that im about to Puke! the only thing worth playing at this point is EVE, the rest is just more of the same all stuff we have seen for years.
Again, anything seen in WoW has been seen in previous games.
Originally posted by CyberWiz Aion will most likely beat WoW in Asia
Hardly, if you can't beat WoW on release, something which Aion hasn't done, they won't beat it in the coming months either.
Aion won't even dent WoW in Asia.
Blizzard has had it's share of issues with the local distributer there (The9), they seem to be on track and will be back online in 3 weeks with Netease.
CAion (Aion china) is having a lot of issues with botters and the figures they first released were false, there were thousands of botters in those figures.
In order to beat Wow in NUMBERS in the West, you simply need to find a game which will be the number ONE PC game.
Meaning it must be the number one SOLD PC game for the next 4 straight years.
If you think Korean Aion will be that product: good luck. ))
My prediction: first I thought 400 K on sales and 250 K subs (after 3 months) as Aion doesn't have ANY western connected Lore.
Now - after seeing things - I predict 300 K sales and hardly over 100 K subs (after 6 months).
PS. I also thought War would have had 600K subs and AoC 400 K after 3 months. So I have a more realistic view this time around.
No Wow fans are leaving Wow (and its upcoming Lich King Raid).... for a non Lore Korean mmorpg with people growing wings on their backs.
Lore is not as important as you think in an MMO. MMORPG's core is community + gameplay mechanics. Lore and Roleplay can be done on single player RPGs. You think most of WoW's subscribers read and live the "LORE"? pffff give me a break. Most Asian MMORPGs does the best job of unrestricted AND community growing gameplay with a more advanced and mature gaming culture.
Originally posted by CyberWiz Aion will most likely beat WoW in Asia
Hardly, if you can't beat WoW on release, something which Aion hasn't done, they won't beat it in the coming months either.
Aion won't even dent WoW in Asia.
Blizzard has had it's share of issues with the local distributer there (The9), they seem to be on track and will be back online in 3 weeks with Netease.
CAion (Aion china) is having a lot of issues with botters and the figures they first released were false, there were thousands of botters in those figures.
What the hell are you talking about? Aion already has 3.3 million subscribers in Asia, and WoW just lost 5 million Chinese subscribers, this has been posted several times in the thread.
Going by NCsofts track record I would not worry to mush about Aion being a WoW killer. 1, They got cought selling Gold to thier customers in Linage 2 2, They are a Korean company, nothing good ever came out of that country 3, It looks to be clone, they have taken stuff from alot of other games, so dont expect anything diffrent or new. Same shit diffrent name. 4, The game that will take the throne from wow has to bring something new to the Genre. I personaly think it will be some sort of FPS game, or RTS online game that brings something totaly new. TANK AND SPANK have been done for years now. 5, I can buy McDonalds(WoW) or i can buy Burger KIng(Aion) in the end they are both hamburgers. The next big MMO shuld be making Gordon Ramsy Hells kitchen food.. we need a hole new typ of game. 6, People will not give up years of gameplay just because a new game that offers the same thing have better grafics. War, Aoc and alot of other failed mmos have allready proven this in the last few years.
1. Source?
2. You travel much? What does Sweden offer? Open up your ignorant mind.
3. Rather have a hot clone than a genuine piece of crap
4. I agree partially
5. WoW is dirt, Aion is a Filet Mignon
6. I agree BUT, people even you and I will move on to the next generation games. You don't still see us playing Pac-Man because of GAMEPLAY. People will move on because of graphics and better technology.
Originally posted by CyberWiz Aion will most likely beat WoW in Asia
Hardly, if you can't beat WoW on release, something which Aion hasn't done, they won't beat it in the coming months either.
Aion won't even dent WoW in Asia.
Blizzard has had it's share of issues with the local distributer there (The9), they seem to be on track and will be back online in 3 weeks with Netease.
CAion (Aion china) is having a lot of issues with botters and the figures they first released were false, there were thousands of botters in those figures.
What the hell are you talking about? Aion already has 3.3 million subscribers in Asia, and WoW just lost 5 million Chinese subscribers, this has been posted several times in the thread.
Don't get worked up, some people think the world is centered around them and WoW. People do some research before posting and stop talking out of your arses. I lol'd when he/she said "Aion won't even dent WoW in Asia" wtf? You serious?
I'll give you 3 reasons why Aion will not dent WoW's subscription numbers. Anime characters and Gameguard. Pretty self explanatory, I think. I'll elaborate a bit, if it's not. Although anime is huge in Asia and although, over the years, it has been crammed down our throats with all those Dragonball Z's and Pokemon's, not everyone in the west likes anime. A lot of people still preffer a more western art style. Gameguard is a rootkit which messes with your system and prevents certain programs from running. It is also completely useless and serves more as an annoyance than an actual preventative method. Last but not least, it does not fully uninstall itself when you uninstall the game. The third reason is a personal option: If I was interested in playing a game like WoW, I'll just play WoW. See, I've played WoW. I've done every goal I set out for myself in WoW. I'm done with WoW and I want something new. Why would I want to play a game that's going to offer a similar experience as WoW? That's not something new. That's the same rehashed game play in a new, japanophile friendly, package.
Anime style has realistic style art as well. Western style art is being influenced by Eastern style art everyday.
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3 million in asia yes. However asian games never make a similar splash in the west as they do in the east. It might get up to half of WoW's sub numbers at most. It's a successor to Lineage 2 basically, but not a WoW killer. WoW killer can only come from the west sorry.
As far as graphics go, it would be pretty sad if a game in 09 looked worse than a game whose development started 10 years ago. However WoW never really had killer graphics, it's main appeal was the art syle that grabbed people's attention. Graphically superior games have come and gone but WoW remains on top still.
A more fair comparison would be between the two releases. That's basicall 4+ years difference between the two games. That's of course still a big time gap. If nothing else, I would expect the newer games to utilise some DX10 features. Pity.
In any case, comparing one game start of development time to the others release date is not a good comparison.
Good News, I got an anti gameguard patch, It allows me to bot, Cheat, or disable any gameguard I need to, so it cannot control my pc in any way at all. Yes I know gameguard is a rootkit ^^.
Second I dont trust Software From other countries having access to my pc, So I limit what it can do to prevent anyone from hacking it, everything has to ask premission each time it wants to do another task, such as my email client, If I email one email it has to ask me if its okay to send it, If i want to email another it has to ask again, ect. As well as games I play online, if for any reason it wants to do an auto update, or modify any file in any way it has to ask to even scan it.
Third It is fully undetectable by any game GM's/Admins of being disabled, Besides even if they did find out anything at all, I could claim file corruption as I run no cheats of any kind.
Fourth, I run two Dual LGA 771 Processors in my pc which gives me a total of like 6GHZ CPU Speed with 8 GB OF RAM, so it is impossible to stop this pc from processing anything such as punk buster trying to eat up cpu speed to prevent hacks, I simply limit PB to one of my cpu, or cpu cores, and the other is still free to run whatever I want i to.
Err.
People who honesty think WoW if elves are mentioned really have lived behind a rock before they learned about WoW.
If there is something sure, than that Elves are a thousands of years old concept, its origins even religious of nature, that got used over and over in all kinds of fantasy or roleplaying media, and an ambundance of other references.
For example, Star Trek comes with its own Elves (Vulcans) and Darkelves (Romulans). And Star Trek is usually not even considered a form of Fantasy or SF Fantasy, but "true" Science Fiction.
lol, I stopped reading this topic at this post. I can't handle it anymore.
Here we go again -.-
Going by NCsofts track record I would not worry to mush about Aion being a WoW killer.
1, They got cought selling Gold to thier customers in Linage 2
2, They are a Korean company, nothing good ever came out of that country
3, It looks to be clone, they have taken stuff from alot of other games, so dont expect anything diffrent or new. Same shit diffrent name.
4, The game that will take the throne from wow has to bring something new to the Genre. I personaly think it will be some sort of FPS game, or RTS online game that brings something totaly new. TANK AND SPANK have been done for years now.
5, I can buy McDonalds(WoW) or i can buy Burger KIng(Aion) in the end they are both hamburgers. The next big MMO shuld be making Gordon Ramsy Hells kitchen food.. we need a hole new typ of game.
6, People will not give up years of gameplay just because a new game that offers the same thing have better grafics. War, Aoc and alot of other failed mmos have allready proven this in the last few years.
I already posted a thread about Aion so I'm not going to waste my time with argumentation,
WoW destroys Aion in every aspect.
Don't try to beat Blizzard on their playground because you can't win.
Aion can't win, they'll be lucky to have 30k players in the West, the end.
Lineage 2 came out before WoW, and its graphics still hold its own to any other game out there, even Aion.
can we please close this threat this argument is pointless
anyone with half a brain can see that. its just a waste of time talking about these types or arguments theres never a good outcome it ends up a flameing match and creates bad blood and bad press for mmorpg.com
so come on guys chill and respect eachother were all mmo players and all have veiws some might not agree on but that dont mean you cant talk in a civil manner
1. No they didnt, but they got caught doing just as bad things, more importantly, the company that did it (NCsoft Austin) has been dissolved.
2. Whatever you say.
3. Every game could be called a clone, name any feature/aspect of WoW (that isn't something trivial), and I'll name the game WoW stole it from. There is absolutely nothing original or new in WoW that hasn't been done in a previous game.
4. FPS or RTS are not MMO's, and they are both already online, it would be like comparing WoW to CS, you can't do it anyway.
5. K.
6. Aion is more than just improved graphics, and it offers a lot more than WoW, like a real PvP experience.
Lol none of the shills get the fact the reason the average person plays WoW (the so called 'casual' player) is because most PC's can run it. You think the average run of the mill PC is going to run Aion with no issues? Combine that with the fact that the hardcore WoW player has already dismissed Aion due to a number of gameplay issues (visit any top level WoW guild forum if you don't believe me).
WAR was supposed to be the one. They even added new gameplay elements that at first was great but the execution was so bad that nothing came of it. The problem with PvP endgame is you are reliant on enough people to give a crap to participate and advance. When has that ever been successfull?
Yes. Maybe you should actually learn what you're talking about before you start spewing BS. Aion is one of the best optimized games I have ever seen. Its pretty close to on par with wow performance.
And WAR was is and will always be crap.
1. No they didnt, but they got caught doing just as bad things, more importantly, the company that did it (NCsoft Austin) has been dissolved.
2. Whatever you say.
3. Every game could be called a clone, name any feature/aspect of WoW (that isn't something trivial), and I'll name the game WoW stole it from. There is absolutely nothing original or new in WoW that hasn't been done in a previous game.
4. FPS or RTS are not MMO's, and they are both already online, it would be like comparing WoW to CS, you can't do it anyway.
5. K.
6. Aion is more than just improved graphics, and it offers a lot more than WoW, like a real PvP experience.
To be fair I do not play WOW or Lotro or WAR or AOC, Reason at the end of the day only AOC had something diffrent the combat system( but to many bugs to keep me subcribed) Aion no mather how many fetures you throw in is just more of the same with Korean MMO grafics. WE Have seen it all before and you wont get players to come over, If what they allready have is about the same.
Aion Will not kill WoW, they should be glad if they even get 500k subs in the west.
Im so tired of the old format of online games that im about to Puke! the only thing worth playing at this point is EVE, the rest is just more of the same all stuff we have seen for years.
Aion will most likely beat WoW in Asia, the question is wether it will be enough beating to become nr 1 in the World or will WoW stay number one because of their European, North American and Oceanic subscribers.
If the beating is hard enough in Asia and if they can get some decent numbers in the West, then they might just be able to beat WoW in wordwide subscription numbers, especially if Aion steals away WoW subs in Asia instead of stealing them from other mmo's or expanding the mmo market.
If you are interested in subscription or PCU numbers for MMORPG's, check out my site :
http://mmodata.blogspot.be/
Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
Aion will most likely beat WoW in Asia, the question is wether it will be enough beating to become nr 1 in the World or will WoW stay number one because of their European, North American and Oceanic subscribers.
If the beating is hard enough in Asia and if they can get some decent numbers in the West, then they might just be able to beat WoW in wordwide subscription numbers, especially if Aion steals away WoW subs in Asia instead of stealing them from other mmo's or expanding the mmo market.
dont forget Blizzard also have a huge following in KOrea and asia, Starcraft annyone?? Dont bet on AION beating anything, WoW will reign a few years more. As developers dont look to be creating anything new but youst feeding us the same old TANK and SPANK. and WoW stil dose this typ of gameplay the best hands down
1. No they didnt, but they got caught doing just as bad things, more importantly, the company that did it (NCsoft Austin) has been dissolved.
2. Whatever you say.
3. Every game could be called a clone, name any feature/aspect of WoW (that isn't something trivial), and I'll name the game WoW stole it from. There is absolutely nothing original or new in WoW that hasn't been done in a previous game.
4. FPS or RTS are not MMO's, and they are both already online, it would be like comparing WoW to CS, you can't do it anyway.
5. K.
6. Aion is more than just improved graphics, and it offers a lot more than WoW, like a real PvP experience.
To be fair I do not play WOW or Lotro or WAR or AOC, Reason at the end of the day only AOC had something diffrent the combat system( but to many bugs to keep me subcribed) Aion no mather how many fetures you throw in is just more of the same with Korean MMO grafics. WE Have seen it all before and you wont get players to come over, If what they allready have is about the same.
Aion Will not kill WoW, they should be glad if they even get 500k subs in the west.
Im so tired of the old format of online games that im about to Puke! the only thing worth playing at this point is EVE, the rest is just more of the same all stuff we have seen for years.
Again, anything seen in WoW has been seen in previous games.
Hardly, if you can't beat WoW on release, something which Aion hasn't done, they won't beat it in the coming months either.
Aion won't even dent WoW in Asia.
Blizzard has had it's share of issues with the local distributer there (The9), they seem to be on track and will be back online in 3 weeks with Netease.
CAion (Aion china) is having a lot of issues with botters and the figures they first released were false, there were thousands of botters in those figures.
Big Hooter's (AION) VS Neato Gameplay (WoW)
Sorry that's all I got out of your VS screenshot's.
In order to beat Wow in NUMBERS in the West, you simply need to find a game which will be the number ONE PC game.
Meaning it must be the number one SOLD PC game for the next 4 straight years.
If you think Korean Aion will be that product: good luck.
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My prediction: first I thought 400 K on sales and 250 K subs (after 3 months) as Aion doesn't have ANY western connected Lore.
Now - after seeing things - I predict 300 K sales and hardly over 100 K subs (after 6 months).
PS. I also thought War would have had 600K subs and AoC 400 K after 3 months. So I have a more realistic view this time around.
No Wow fans are leaving Wow (and its upcoming Lich King Raid).... for a non Lore Korean mmorpg with people growing wings on their backs.
Lore is not as important as you think in an MMO. MMORPG's core is community + gameplay mechanics. Lore and Roleplay can be done on single player RPGs. You think most of WoW's subscribers read and live the "LORE"? pffff give me a break. Most Asian MMORPGs does the best job of unrestricted AND community growing gameplay with a more advanced and mature gaming culture.
Hardly, if you can't beat WoW on release, something which Aion hasn't done, they won't beat it in the coming months either.
Aion won't even dent WoW in Asia.
Blizzard has had it's share of issues with the local distributer there (The9), they seem to be on track and will be back online in 3 weeks with Netease.
CAion (Aion china) is having a lot of issues with botters and the figures they first released were false, there were thousands of botters in those figures.
What the hell are you talking about? Aion already has 3.3 million subscribers in Asia, and WoW just lost 5 million Chinese subscribers, this has been posted several times in the thread.
1. Source?
2. You travel much? What does Sweden offer? Open up your ignorant mind.
3. Rather have a hot clone than a genuine piece of crap
4. I agree partially
5. WoW is dirt, Aion is a Filet Mignon
6. I agree BUT, people even you and I will move on to the next generation games. You don't still see us playing Pac-Man because of GAMEPLAY. People will move on because of graphics and better technology.
... a deja vu ...
anyway, just to make something clear about aion that OP is wrong:
- the wings are more a tactical combat tool than a way to move around the world
- its a dx9 engine
- there is no mana downtime if the player have something like a half brain
Hardly, if you can't beat WoW on release, something which Aion hasn't done, they won't beat it in the coming months either.
Aion won't even dent WoW in Asia.
Blizzard has had it's share of issues with the local distributer there (The9), they seem to be on track and will be back online in 3 weeks with Netease.
CAion (Aion china) is having a lot of issues with botters and the figures they first released were false, there were thousands of botters in those figures.
What the hell are you talking about? Aion already has 3.3 million subscribers in Asia, and WoW just lost 5 million Chinese subscribers, this has been posted several times in the thread.
Don't get worked up, some people think the world is centered around them and WoW. People do some research before posting and stop talking out of your arses. I lol'd when he/she said "Aion won't even dent WoW in Asia" wtf? You serious?
Anime style has realistic style art as well. Western style art is being influenced by Eastern style art everyday.