There is almost NOTHING I liked about UO, EQ, DAOC, AO, AC, WoW,, you name it, there is almost NOTHING aesthetically in common in Aion with those great games of the past
OP want to play an MMO and yet he despise all great titles of the past and now he's picky with Aion too.I wonder if he will ever like an MMO.
Re-read the OP. He loved those games. Talk about misquoting. He was saying there was nothing that he liked in those games IN AION.
Im tired of playing ring around the rosie with your spin machine. Every post you make is chock full of inheherent fallacies, and this one is no exception. I'll say simply this; It'll be funny once you eat your words.
Nice, another groundless post of yours. What are these fallacies in every of my posts you are talking about?
While you are making some empty posts like this one, all of my posts are founded with personal opinions, information, factual numbers, etc...
You see, now you are getting frustrated and you can't accept that someone has some different tastes than yours.
You don't like a game, as I said above that's fine. Doesn't mean everyone should hate it as you do.
edit: and talking about fallacies, you seem to be the king. Because as another poster said above, I also find it strange that you played a game you hate until level 50.
Maybe he was waiting for it to get less boring and good? I mean if levels 1-10 suck so bad and everyone should wait for it to get better (as it does by your own admission), maybe Nightblade was waiting for those promises to come true.
As he said before, you criticize players for not playing and talking about the game; and now you criticize him for playing too much.
So how much should we all play exactly before we may comment?
Templarga, just don't waste your energy. Simple logic seems to escape him. For every contradiction he calls you out on, he just replies with canned phrase, a notable rotation of these phrases that have little to no facts behind them.
People are so desperate for a WoW competitor to arise, that something that should be an industry standard (functional combat) is widely praised, and people like this emerge. Groundless? I just took a very simple stab at your double standard that you conveniently ignored. The only answers you supply are nonsensical ones. I'll refrain from using the overused lingo, suffice to say that I am convinced that no amount of actual facts will get you to admit you were wrong about anything.
Facts? What facts have you been providing for this debate? The skewed subscription numbers?
Enough already, just tell people what the game is like. Aion isnt "several steps ahead" it's not "innovative" and whatever your personal opinion of the ridiculous lore is, the game is grind filled right down to the Lineage 2 power shards, however less effective they may be in this game.
The devs never told us that Aion will be INNOVATIVE and SEVERAL STEPS AHEAD OTHER GAMES. You fail to realize what this game is about.
Now please, GTFO, you have been busted you little troll.
Nice find Ephimero , it seems he "have" a lvl 50 assasin and also he stated : The game has been out for a few years overseas.
I also hate, HATE when ppls start new threads with their "hate" message and then they fail to reply to users questions ( meaning he only started the thread and..that's it ). Is obvious his message was for trolling only ( see title and not only ) .
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Before this thread goes completely south i would just like to thank the OP for his opinion. This is the first game ive been remotely interested in in quite sometime. I will file his opinion away with the others ive collected and with those i continue to collect and then total them up and make a decision on to buy this game or not.
Every game has bad apples among the community. Those bad apples are in Barrens Chat, Dalaran chat, White sands, etc. However, in defense of those bashing the OP, you personally disliking the art style does not make a game bad. Usually gameplay and bugs are the reasons to consider a game "bad" not artistic choices.
[Mod Edit] Every game has bad apples among the community. Those bad apples are in Barrens Chat, Dalaran chat, White sands, etc. However, in defense of those bashing the OP, you personally disliking the art style does not make a game bad. Usually gameplay and bugs are the reasons to consider a game "bad" not artistic choices.
It makes the art style bad in his eyes. I personally like what i have seen so far but he doesnt and art style does matter at least to some of us. Its his opinion and people need to accept that not everyone likes the same things. The art style is a gamebreaker for him, so be it.
Before this thread goes completely south i would just like to thank the OP for his opinion. This is the first game ive been remotely interested in in quite sometime. I will file his opinion away with the others ive collected and with those i continue to collect and then total them up and make a decision on to buy this game or not.
The thread already went downhill as reading it. I don't think this is a valid thing to collect, because many of his reasons can be crossed off just by watching a few videos (with sound and music) and looking at screenshots. There is no "twinkle" effect when you click or talk to things. It's a small bell or ding. What you hear in a lot of MMO's. You will hear a "twinkle" when you get mail. I'm saying of course you file in opinions and I respect you for that, but if one can't fully put time into giving an opinion and would rather make and tell jokes. What kind of result would that be for you? I can make a video for you right now on my lvl 38 assassin and kill his opinions.
Like I said, if little things like that you think would effect you, you can gain all of that just from watching a stream or a video. I stoped taking him serious when he said mobs are cutey when this is closed beta with a cap of 10 Your not going to see anything giant and horrific early on in any type of game. Yeah he can give his opinion, but it's all a joke. Like I said watch a few videos and that will really iron out if you think this game is for you (and see what he is talking about). Check my screenshots btw.
The devs never told us that Aion will be INNOVATIVE and SEVERAL STEPS AHEAD OTHER GAMES. You fail to realize what this game is about.
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OH I'm sorry, I'm just stunned at your ... Yeah, moving on; when did I say I was accusing the DEVELOPERS of over hyping? Find me a quote. Go on. Do it.
www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2903445
There he goes his credibility, next.
Wow, you can barely form a proper sentence and you're questioning MY credibility. Unfortunately for you, an error like that does little to refute claims of the game's design flaws. So sorry.
I'm not sure what I dislike more, the people who come to a game's fan forums to state how much they HATE a game, or the people who try to prove them WRONG.
Last I checked likeing something was a personal opinion. It is doubtful that any faceless names from the internet is going to make this person change their "informed" opinion, no matter how much you argue.
Best thing to do is simply file this away as an opinion and let it be. Seriously might as well argue which flavor of Pizza is better, or what soda tastes better.
Before this thread goes completely south i would just like to thank the OP for his opinion. This is the first game ive been remotely interested in in quite sometime. I will file his opinion away with the others ive collected and with those i continue to collect and then total them up and make a decision on to buy this game or not.
The thread already went downhill as reading it. I don't think this is a valid thing to collect, because many of his reasons can be crossed off just by watching a few videos (with sound and music) and looking at screenshots. There is no "twinkle" effect when you click or talk to things. It's a small bell or ding. What you hear in a lot of MMO's. You will hear a "twinkle" when you get mail. I'm saying of course you file in opinions and I respect you for that, but if one can't fully put time into giving an opinion and would rather make and tell jokes. What kind of result would that be for you? I can make a video for you right now on my lvl 38 assassin and kill his opinions.
Like I said, if little things like that you think would effect you, you can gain all of that just from watching a stream or a video. I stoped taking him serious when he said mobs are cutey when this is closed beta with a cap of 10 Your not going to see anything giant and horrific early on in any type of game. Yeah he can give his opinion, but it's all a joke. Like I said watch a few videos and that will really iron out if you think this game is for you (and see what he is talking about). Check my screenshots btw.
Nice screens. As for myself i like the look of things. Ive always thought Guild Wars art was nice also. I have high hopes for this game its been a long dry spell for me as the last game i bought that i played for any length of time was LOTRO and that was in 07 if i remeber right lol.
I've tried the past week fews in beta to like this game, but it's just not happening. Here's why:
-the graphics are too "cutesy." Everything has a soft glow to it, from the login screen to the actual environments. Even the Asmodean (sp?) lands feel too Hello Kitty-ish. -the mobs are also "cutesy." Wheres the menace? Killing cute little bunny-bear hybrids isn't very viscerally exciting. -the combat animations are apocalyptic. My dagger hits a mob and things EXPLODE! Wow, what happen when I'm level 20 and I hit a mob with my dagger? The nearby village detonates? -the sounds effects are "cutsey." When you click on damn near anything, you hear a little "twinkle" effect. From NPC givers to loot, I constantly hear Mario gathering stars. (Oh, not to mention the choral music in the beginning which is simply dreadful and music I think I heard 10 years ago in a Final Fantasy game). -the battle/combat sounds are hilariously bad. Every time my female scout take damage, I hear a 5 yr old child scrape her knee. Again, where's the grit, the menace, where's the fact that I'M FIGHTING, not picking flowers?
Sorry, but these are all deal-breakers. You can add a good story onto this (which btw, I didn't see), you can add flying onto this (nothing new here, AO let you do this, what, almost 10 years ago?), you can add PvP on top of this (what, to hear LOTS of 5 yr old girls scraping their knees)...but the game will still look and sound the same. There is almost NOTHING I liked about UO, EQ, DAOC, AO, AC, WoW,, you name it, there is almost NOTHING aesthetically in common in Aion with those great games of the past No thanks, Aion, I outgrew Link and Mario and Princess Peach's cuteness 20 years ago.
Hope you realize that what you stated doesnt make the game bad, it makes the game bad for you, since all this you're talking about is your taste.
Honestly, I could care less about how level 1 mobs look or how my character grunts while Im using ventrilo.
yeah. its discrimination. descriminate things is bad.
Anyway, is his opinion I guess... myself personally, I love the whole "Cutesy" feeling and explosion it adds something extra to the game, the sound you can mute if you want, but it doesnt bother me at all.
In my opinion, you are Raging quit for very stupid things. I WONT GO TO DISNEY WORLD TO CUTESY FOR ME, I don't give a fuck, I m not going to shake Mickey's hand, I want to go to the Rollercoasters and stuff, dont care how they look, what it really matters is the ride.
Does that make Aion a bad game? I think that was merely your opinion about how the game graphics and sounds tasted for you.
I enjoyed the game's graphics and sounds (does that make me a homo or a child?), voiceovers are just not westernized yet, what you hear is what might be common in Korea, and I also don't like them as they are.
What's next, are you going to make threads justifying why art work X is bad purely based on the taste?
Aion is WoW clone, bad WoW clone is bad WoW clone. Nightblade is an effing Retard for playing such a fail game till max level.
Btw..... I'm making a Elyos Gladiator when Live comes out, name Pezhunter, hit me up.
Oh and Aion sucks.
It's almost 2010, and I am just not wiling to tolerate clunky graphics while being told that "gameplay is more important than graphics". That excuse won't wash with me any more. I expect my games to have both good graphics and good gameplay. -Quote Isoke(VN boards)
That is a poor reason to state that the game is bad. Lets not talk about the actualy gameplay that would be stupid,, lets not talk about the pve and pvp content lets judge the game on the twinkling sound it makes when you gather loot. its retarded man!!
LOL whats with the "WoW Clone" crap i see about every game.. Hell i had ppl say EQ and EQ2 were WoW Clones..THEY WERE OUT BEFOR WoW lol. And this game is more of a L2 clone if anyhting. Trust me i know. Also its no use trying to compare this to WoW since well WoW is a simplified version of Other mmos that died in the past. I like WoW but i do not play it. nore will i play this game..or atleast for a while
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All those things you said were for ur opion of what u like Oyjord . ive been playing WoW off and on for 3 years now and personaly i cant wait till Aion comes out and im the type of person that does get trilled about something very easily. i played the beta and i like what i saw, it had somethings like WoW but still different enough that i didnt feel like i was playing WoW but thats my opion and for u to say a video game is bad just cause u dont like it doesnt make it bad it just says u dont like it. theres nothing that says u have to play it or any other mmo for that reason.
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OP want to play an MMO and yet he despise all great titles of the past and now he's picky with Aion too.I wonder if he will ever like an MMO.
Re-read the OP. He loved those games. Talk about misquoting. He was saying there was nothing that he liked in those games IN AION.
Ugh. Reading comprehension for the win.
Nice, another groundless post of yours. What are these fallacies in every of my posts you are talking about?
While you are making some empty posts like this one, all of my posts are founded with personal opinions, information, factual numbers, etc...
You see, now you are getting frustrated and you can't accept that someone has some different tastes than yours.
You don't like a game, as I said above that's fine. Doesn't mean everyone should hate it as you do.
edit: and talking about fallacies, you seem to be the king. Because as another poster said above, I also find it strange that you played a game you hate until level 50.
Maybe he was waiting for it to get less boring and good? I mean if levels 1-10 suck so bad and everyone should wait for it to get better (as it does by your own admission), maybe Nightblade was waiting for those promises to come true.
As he said before, you criticize players for not playing and talking about the game; and now you criticize him for playing too much.
So how much should we all play exactly before we may comment?
Templarga, just don't waste your energy. Simple logic seems to escape him. For every contradiction he calls you out on, he just replies with canned phrase, a notable rotation of these phrases that have little to no facts behind them.
People are so desperate for a WoW competitor to arise, that something that should be an industry standard (functional combat) is widely praised, and people like this emerge. Groundless? I just took a very simple stab at your double standard that you conveniently ignored. The only answers you supply are nonsensical ones. I'll refrain from using the overused lingo, suffice to say that I am convinced that no amount of actual facts will get you to admit you were wrong about anything.
Facts? What facts have you been providing for this debate? The skewed subscription numbers?
Enough already, just tell people what the game is like. Aion isnt "several steps ahead" it's not "innovative" and whatever your personal opinion of the ridiculous lore is, the game is grind filled right down to the Lineage 2 power shards, however less effective they may be in this game.
The devs never told us that Aion will be INNOVATIVE and SEVERAL STEPS AHEAD OTHER GAMES. You fail to realize what this game is about.
Now please, GTFO, you have been busted you little troll.
Nice find Ephimero , it seems he "have" a lvl 50 assasin and also he stated : The game has been out for a few years overseas.
I also hate, HATE when ppls start new threads with their "hate" message and then they fail to reply to users questions ( meaning he only started the thread and..that's it ). Is obvious his message was for trolling only ( see title and not only ) .
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LOL at least he didnt say 'decade'
Good for you.
This forums has way too much this game sucks because I didnt like it threads.
I'm not a no life that sits in front of his computer all day long, I'm an intern that sits in front of his computer all day long.
Aion looks preatty cool to me. don't know what the op is talking about.
This game is bad like there is not much of a end game it get market like a PVE game but all the endgame got is lame pvp!
Looks like fun and should at least be relatively bug and hassle free compared to other new gen MMOs..
Meh...gave both my beta accounts away
Overall game mechanics beat almost anything out there atm save WoW.
Feeling like you are alice in wonderland is a acquired taste, unfortunatley not mine, I prefer West style games
But to say this game is Bad is totally UNTRUE.
Lets not get carried away with generalisations now, these don't win any arguments.
Before this thread goes completely south i would just like to thank the OP for his opinion. This is the first game ive been remotely interested in in quite sometime. I will file his opinion away with the others ive collected and with those i continue to collect and then total them up and make a decision on to buy this game or not.
Every game has bad apples among the community. Those bad apples are in Barrens Chat, Dalaran chat, White sands, etc. However, in defense of those bashing the OP, you personally disliking the art style does not make a game bad. Usually gameplay and bugs are the reasons to consider a game "bad" not artistic choices.
It makes the art style bad in his eyes. I personally like what i have seen so far but he doesnt and art style does matter at least to some of us. Its his opinion and people need to accept that not everyone likes the same things. The art style is a gamebreaker for him, so be it.
The thread already went downhill as reading it. I don't think this is a valid thing to collect, because many of his reasons can be crossed off just by watching a few videos (with sound and music) and looking at screenshots. There is no "twinkle" effect when you click or talk to things. It's a small bell or ding. What you hear in a lot of MMO's. You will hear a "twinkle" when you get mail. I'm saying of course you file in opinions and I respect you for that, but if one can't fully put time into giving an opinion and would rather make and tell jokes. What kind of result would that be for you? I can make a video for you right now on my lvl 38 assassin and kill his opinions.
Like I said, if little things like that you think would effect you, you can gain all of that just from watching a stream or a video. I stoped taking him serious when he said mobs are cutey when this is closed beta with a cap of 10 Your not going to see anything giant and horrific early on in any type of game. Yeah he can give his opinion, but it's all a joke. Like I said watch a few videos and that will really iron out if you think this game is for you (and see what he is talking about). Check my screenshots btw.
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The devs never told us that Aion will be INNOVATIVE and SEVERAL STEPS AHEAD OTHER GAMES. You fail to realize what this game is about.
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OH I'm sorry, I'm just stunned at your ... Yeah, moving on; when did I say I was accusing the DEVELOPERS of over hyping? Find me a quote. Go on. Do it.
www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2903445
There he goes his credibility, next.
Wow, you can barely form a proper sentence and you're questioning MY credibility. Unfortunately for you, an error like that does little to refute claims of the game's design flaws. So sorry.
I'm not sure what I dislike more, the people who come to a game's fan forums to state how much they HATE a game, or the people who try to prove them WRONG.
Last I checked likeing something was a personal opinion. It is doubtful that any faceless names from the internet is going to make this person change their "informed" opinion, no matter how much you argue.
Best thing to do is simply file this away as an opinion and let it be. Seriously might as well argue which flavor of Pizza is better, or what soda tastes better.
The thread already went downhill as reading it. I don't think this is a valid thing to collect, because many of his reasons can be crossed off just by watching a few videos (with sound and music) and looking at screenshots. There is no "twinkle" effect when you click or talk to things. It's a small bell or ding. What you hear in a lot of MMO's. You will hear a "twinkle" when you get mail. I'm saying of course you file in opinions and I respect you for that, but if one can't fully put time into giving an opinion and would rather make and tell jokes. What kind of result would that be for you? I can make a video for you right now on my lvl 38 assassin and kill his opinions.
Like I said, if little things like that you think would effect you, you can gain all of that just from watching a stream or a video. I stoped taking him serious when he said mobs are cutey when this is closed beta with a cap of 10 Your not going to see anything giant and horrific early on in any type of game. Yeah he can give his opinion, but it's all a joke. Like I said watch a few videos and that will really iron out if you think this game is for you (and see what he is talking about). Check my screenshots btw.
Nice screens. As for myself i like the look of things. Ive always thought Guild Wars art was nice also. I have high hopes for this game its been a long dry spell for me as the last game i bought that i played for any length of time was LOTRO and that was in 07 if i remeber right lol.
Hope you realize that what you stated doesnt make the game bad, it makes the game bad for you, since all this you're talking about is your taste.
Honestly, I could care less about how level 1 mobs look or how my character grunts while Im using ventrilo.
yeah. its discrimination. descriminate things is bad.
Anyway, is his opinion I guess... myself personally, I love the whole "Cutesy" feeling and explosion it adds something extra to the game, the sound you can mute if you want, but it doesnt bother me at all.
In my opinion, you are Raging quit for very stupid things. I WONT GO TO DISNEY WORLD TO CUTESY FOR ME, I don't give a fuck, I m not going to shake Mickey's hand, I want to go to the Rollercoasters and stuff, dont care how they look, what it really matters is the ride.
Does that make Aion a bad game? I think that was merely your opinion about how the game graphics and sounds tasted for you.
I enjoyed the game's graphics and sounds (does that make me a homo or a child?), voiceovers are just not westernized yet, what you hear is what might be common in Korea, and I also don't like them as they are.
What's next, are you going to make threads justifying why art work X is bad purely based on the taste?
Aion is WoW clone, bad WoW clone is bad WoW clone. Nightblade is an effing Retard for playing such a fail game till max level.
Btw..... I'm making a Elyos Gladiator when Live comes out, name Pezhunter, hit me up.
Oh and Aion sucks.
It's almost 2010, and I am just not wiling to tolerate clunky graphics while being told that "gameplay is more important than graphics". That excuse won't wash with me any more. I expect my games to have both good graphics and good gameplay.
-Quote Isoke(VN boards)
That is a poor reason to state that the game is bad. Lets not talk about the actualy gameplay that would be stupid,, lets not talk about the pve and pvp content lets judge the game on the twinkling sound it makes when you gather loot. its retarded man!!
LOL whats with the "WoW Clone" crap i see about every game.. Hell i had ppl say EQ and EQ2 were WoW Clones..THEY WERE OUT BEFOR WoW lol. And this game is more of a L2 clone if anyhting. Trust me i know. Also its no use trying to compare this to WoW since well WoW is a simplified version of Other mmos that died in the past. I like WoW but i do not play it. nore will i play this game..or atleast for a while
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All those things you said were for ur opion of what u like Oyjord . ive been playing WoW off and on for 3 years now and personaly i cant wait till Aion comes out and im the type of person that does get trilled about something very easily. i played the beta and i like what i saw, it had somethings like WoW but still different enough that i didnt feel like i was playing WoW but thats my opion and for u to say a video game is bad just cause u dont like it doesnt make it bad it just says u dont like it. theres nothing that says u have to play it or any other mmo for that reason.
How can people not see that any game that has any kind of internet feature is a wow clone? Go back to high scholl people.
Sheesh
I'm not a no life that sits in front of his computer all day long, I'm an intern that sits in front of his computer all day long.