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Have they increased server capacity? I'm just curious as to how ( as stated previously ) that there are 17k active players. I thought the bar per server was set at 10k. I point further to your above post that they intentionally kept the game small. If the game is meant to be 10k players per server and they are currently at 17k on the EU server that would be an overload, would it not? That said ... why is the online store still allowing people to purchase the game, if there is a cap and we are above that cap?
I am sure there is an acceptable, logical, and demonstrated reason for this seemingly contorted jump in rationale.
Fail for self-contradiction. Dunno, how did WOW go from only half a million subs to 11 million +? How were they able to listen to what their players thought about the game and what suggestions said players had for WOW, when WOW had hundreds of thousands of subs from day one, and that number only grew and grew?
Perhaps true gods ran Blizzard North, and Tacos is the lord of false mexican food?
Fail is fail. Make good arguments to logically support the points you are presenting, please.
Thank you.
While I appreciate the support, it's not really my intent to rip him. I wouldn't have replied had he not denied his community involvement with Darkfall. As such, I thought my comments were topical, since they demonstrate his deliberate attempts at obfuscation.
~Ripper
He basically BEGGED for it.......... almost anyone who has spent time on the Darkfall forums knows he is highly opinionated and dismisses anyone who disagrees with his opnions.
His OP is primarliy as you pointed out, "I'm right, your wrong." While he may well have a point about the amount of Trolling his post is little better.
While he is allowed to have his opinions, to come here and promptly deny his involvment in the community as an IRC moderator it just plain silly. SOMEONE had to point out to this guy how far from reality he is........ while you may not have intended to publically humiliate him it is what I would call an advantagious side effect.
Dem hibbies! Dey be wrong!
Have they increased server capacity? I'm just curious as to how ( as stated previously ) that there are 17k active players. I thought the bar per server was set at 10k. I point further to your above post that they intentionally kept the game small. If the game is meant to be 10k players per server and they are currently at 17k on the EU server that would be an overload, would it not? That said ... why is the online store still allowing people to purchase the game, if there is a cap and we are above that cap?
I am sure there is an acceptable, logical, and demonstrated reason for this seemingly contorted jump in rationale.
The op attests that he has seen logs showing 17,000. Is this number concurrent subs, or total active subs? Perhaps the op, or someone else, is able to elaborate upon this topic in a reasonable, logical fashion, and answer our questions?
While I appreciate the support, it's not really my intent to rip him. I wouldn't have replied had he not denied his community involvement with Darkfall. As such, I thought my comments were topical, since they demonstrate his deliberate attempts at obfuscation.
~Ripper
He basically BEGGED for it.......... almost anyone who has spent time on the Darkfall forums knows he is highly opinionated and dismisses anyone who disagrees with his opnions.
His OP is primarliy as you pointed out, "I'm right, your wrong." While he may well have a point about the amount of Trolling his post is little better.
While he is allowed to have his opinions, to come here and promptly deny his involvment in the community as an IRC moderator it just plain silly. SOMEONE had to point out to this guy how far from reality he is........ while you may not have intended to publically humiliate him it is what I would call an advantagious side effect.
You cannot humiliate anyone on the mmorpg.com Darkfall forum, fanboy or troll.....were beyond that shiz....
While I appreciate the support, it's not really my intent to rip him. I wouldn't have replied had he not denied his community involvement with Darkfall. As such, I thought my comments were topical, since they demonstrate his deliberate attempts at obfuscation.
~Ripper
He basically BEGGED for it.......... almost anyone who has spent time on the Darkfall forums knows he is highly opinionated and dismisses anyone who disagrees with his opnions.
His OP is primarliy as you pointed out, "I'm right, your wrong." While he may well have a point about the amount of Trolling his post is little better.
While he is allowed to have his opinions, to come here and promptly deny his involvment in the community as an IRC moderator it just plain silly. SOMEONE had to point out to this guy how far from reality he is........ while you may not have intended to publically humiliate him it is what I would call an advantagious side effect.
You cannot humiliate anyone on the mmorpg.com Darkfall forum, fanboy or troll.....were beyond that shiz....
Would "Proven him to be a liar and an extremely poor representation of the community and company he pretended to not represent in front of several people, an event that would be humiliating to a person not hardened by years of forum combat." have been a more apropriate discription?
Dem hibbies! Dey be wrong!
Have they increased server capacity? I'm just curious as to how ( as stated previously ) that there are 17k active players. I thought the bar per server was set at 10k. I point further to your above post that they intentionally kept the game small. If the game is meant to be 10k players per server and they are currently at 17k on the EU server that would be an overload, would it not? That said ... why is the online store still allowing people to purchase the game, if there is a cap and we are above that cap?
I am sure there is an acceptable, logical, and demonstrated reason for this seemingly contorted jump in rationale.
The op attests that he has seen logs showing 17,000. Is this number concurrent subs, or total active subs? Perhaps the op, or someone else, is able to elaborate upon this topic in a reasonable, logical fashion, and answer our questions?
Ok, so he posts above that he is NOT associated with Av but he has SEEN logs showing 17K subs? Interesting never knew that private companies made that type of info available to any old gamer.
Guess I should write Sony and Blizz and ask to see their official logs since I am sure it is common place to just show them to anyone. Oh forgot, Av is a special (as in special ed) company that does everything differently then all other companies in any field of endeavor.
So Signus who should we email at Av to get to see those "official" logs? Are they kept on the same "official" log server that showed that Ed Zit only played a couple of hours? ROFLMAO
the df server can support up to 50k players, like i said in a earlier statement in this topic the game costs 50 bucks you can not get a free trial! well many can not afford to buy a game without even testing it! On the other hand the NA server is about to launch
what tasos said when before the game launched was that NA players can buy a EU copy and play on the EU server and will be able to transfer to NA server later! so ppl got scared about that...actually those where smart cause we have to buy a new copy now if we want to play at NA launch which kinda sucks but it is worth it!
For wow and the glory road!
do you have any idea how much staff Blizzard has Worldwide? no of course not.
we do not know how much staff AV actually has! i would guess around 3% of Blizz dream team?
any more questions?
Yup.
This guy is a moderator for Av.
You can't get more fanboy then working for a company for free.
I really don't know what this thread is supposed to be about.
It's not even good trolling.
Wait ...
50k is the number now? You arn't just raising the bar on me now, are you?
Lets follow that train though, humor me. If the DF server can support 50k players, and they currently only have 17k... why are they releasing a new server? In addition to that ... surely 50k of the reported 300k+ beta subcribers would have purchased the game by now? You understand my reasoning, I hope, something is just not adding up. The numbers are not jiving..... and numbers do not lie. Could you please elaborate more on this 50k server cap, any official announcements with that in it? I have only seen the 10k cap.
Thanks,
It's not even like these are hard names to spell. Aventurine is a precious gem, people have no reason to spell it "Adventurine" and I've seen a simple name, TASOS, spelled Tacos, Taoes, Toes, it's just sad.
There is an in game log of how many people are playing, there were about 17k on last I checked I believe. So yeah, I'd say that's growing. And for those saying "That's nothing! WoW this and WoW that!" Darkfall was never meant to be anything more than a niche game, and considering it only cost about 10M euros to make, it won't take a hell of a long time to earn back and make a profit. Unlike Age of Conan, who is still in debt, with one of their companies already being bankrupt.
No one wanted Darkfall to be another WoW clone, so long as there's enough population for fighting and competetive play, we're all happy.
Screen shot or it never happened.
Not sure why you came here trolling, but as you've noted, we're better at it than you, so might as well head back to forum fall and play with your friends.
We don't even mind being labeled trolls, so not sure why you think the name hurts us in some way. It doesn't.
Though we prefer to call it open and honest discussion, you may name call all you like, won't change our opinions much.
You're in our world now..... hope you enjoy it.
There's an in-game log with the total number of online players? That's news to me and to anybody who's ever played the game, unless said log is available only to specific people, such as community staff, GMs, developers, etc... There was a screen post launch, but it didn't accuratley show true online activity and it was removed from public viewing shortly, thereafter (I assume so as not to expose the low population). To the best of my knowledge, the only in-game indicator of membership is the clan journal which barely showed 15k the last time I tablulated the numbers. Even that figure is misleading, since it was verified that the total clan count contained ex-players and deleted characters, thereby making the actual clan membership total lower (potentially much lower).
So, Signus, please post proof or would doing so further expose you as representing Aventurine in an unoffical capacity (since nobody else seems to have access to this mythical online membership log). If the log exists and it legitimately shows 17k players, I believe it's total players, not online concurrent players (just like the log that was publicly viewable when the game first launched). If that's the case, are the 17k players all players who've ever bought the game or active players only? We'll probably never know, since it's unlikely you'll post any proof.
~Ripper
Could we perchance get a link to the server supporting 50k concurrent subs statement? If it is 50k total active subs, then it is an irrelevant statement and AV is in serious trouble (because that statement makes no sense).
Since you're speaking of items which Tacos brought up pre-retail release - he also stated (numerous times) that you would NEVER have to pay to play DF, without having first had the opportunity to try the game for free.
What does Blizzard's staff size have to do with anything we are discussing?
Nought from the Greeks towards me hath sped well.
So now I find that ancient proverb true,
Foes' gifts are no gifts: profit bring they none.
-Sophocles (496 - 406 BC)
I have a question.
WHAT!?
It's not even like these are hard names to spell. Aventurine is a precious gem, people have no reason to spell it "Adventurine" and I've seen a simple name, TASOS, spelled Tacos, Taoes, Toes, it's just sad.
There is an in game log of how many people are playing, there were about 17k on last I checked I believe. So yeah, I'd say that's growing. And for those saying "That's nothing! WoW this and WoW that!" Darkfall was never meant to be anything more than a niche game, and considering it only cost about 10M euros to make, it won't take a hell of a long time to earn back and make a profit. Unlike Age of Conan, who is still in debt, with one of their companies already being bankrupt.
No one wanted Darkfall to be another WoW clone, so long as there's enough population for fighting and competetive play, we're all happy.
Screen shot or it never happened.
Not sure why you came here trolling, but as you've noted, we're better at it than you, so might as well head back to forum fall and play with your friends.
We don't even mind being labeled trolls, so not sure why you think the name hurts us in some way. It doesn't.
Though we prefer to call it open and honest discussion, you may name call all you like, won't change our opinions much.
You're in our world now..... hope you enjoy it.
There's an in-game log with the total number of online players? That's news to me and to anybody who's ever played the game, unless said log is available only to specific people, such as community staff, GMs, developers, etc... There was a screen post launch, but it didn't accuratley show true online activity and it was removed from public viewing shortly, thereafter (I assume so as not to expose the low population). To the best of my knowledge, the only in-game indicator of membership is the clan journal which barely showed 15k the last time I tablulated the numbers. Even that figure is misleading, since it was verified that the total clan count contained ex-players and deleted characters, thereby making the actual clan membership total lower (potentially much lower).
So, Signus, please post proof or would doing so further expose you as representing Aventurine in an unoffical capacity (since nobody else seems to have access to this mythical online membership log). If the log exists and it legitimately shows 17k players, I believe it's total players, not online concurrent players (just like the log that was publicly viewable when the game first launched). If that's the case, are the 17k players all players who've ever bought the game or active players only? We'll probably never know, since it's unlikely you'll post any proof.
~Ripper
I remember the op of this thread made a statement about funcom employees doing some negative viral posting? So, if we look down upon people doing negative viralling; then, what do we do about people attempting to do smart-assed viralling?
you ppl are not making it easy for me!!!
AV has limited Server Capacity to support Siege battles and so on...
i never said that the server can only hold 10k players!
Now here are the Facts for the EU server and the NA server:
first here is a link to the expansion that is put in the game right now! That is the reason why the hype is up again on the forums about Darkfall!
http://www.darkfallonline.com/expansion/
The EU Launch was the actual...uhm us DF peeps call it payed Open Beta Launch!
With the NA Server you can think of as a relaunch or actual Game Launch. example Vanguard opened free trials Island which was a actual relaunch by the Devs Statements!
counting Clan members wont help yeh! there are alot of lone wolfs in the game and the clan members count is in some cases not up to date
This thread needs deleted. "I TOLD YOU SO" threads are against the rules and considered harrassment.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Nought from the Greeks towards me hath sped well.
So now I find that ancient proverb true,
Foes' gifts are no gifts: profit bring they none.
-Sophocles (496 - 406 BC)
Yes they can: start paying the company in order to work for them
but i should better stop here rather giving Tasos any more "brilliant" ideas
Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray*
Nought from the Greeks towards me hath sped well.
So now I find that ancient proverb true,
Foes' gifts are no gifts: profit bring they none.
-Sophocles (496 - 406 BC)
Post of the day
Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray*
Can someone please dig up old posts in regards to the "Capacity limits" which were set by Aventurine? I have always heard/read 10,000.
You are still not addressing the implication that if the Server Capacity is at 50k, and a Mod states 17k currently ( how he obtained this information is questionable ) how Aventurine justifys opening a second server.
This is the point of my trip on these forums today, to point out the glaring problems with the "Number game" that is being waged by -Both- sides of the arguement. Without factual data, backed by official releases every number quote is meer speculation. If we judge by released information, official information, the Server capacity and then make informed speculations on the games subcription base or active players things begin to blur. I question the validity of 17k subcribers, even playing devils advocate and allowing said subcriber speculation, points to a glaring disparity on where this game should be to justify a new server.
You could make all this speculation go away if you or anyone would simply state that Aventurine recieved addtional funds and is increasing their base market. THAT I would understand perfectly, but as to date we only hear speculation of finacial failure and to judge based on their EU "Publisher" ... lets just say people are not lining up to back this indie firm.
If you are unable to speak to the points I raised; then, perhaps the person (our op in this case) who mentioned 17k players in the log, CAN?
Op?
When I first came to this forum to read about Darkfall I was shocked. It wasn`t any discussion about the game at all, only a flow of vaporvare posts. I was amazed by the effort some made to make a small indie company look bad. I also wondered what kind of mmo`s those "haters" accually played.
Finding the trolls are really easy in mmorpg.com. I just press the posters name, look at his profile page and his recent forum posts. You will see that the trolls have page after page of attacks on Darkfall, and hardly anything on other forums. You Jimmiman99 are a troll. Not the worst troll in here, but still a troll. Just check your forum post, all of you. If your post are about a game you have never played or have no intention of playing you are a troll.
I honestly don`t understand why you do it, as I would never spend my time flaming hello kitty. It`s a really sad thing to do, and your mmo (if you have any) must be really boring if you waiste this amount of time on a mmo with 10k players.
Beside, we don`t need you to tell us what the flaws of Darkfall is. We know what it is because we play it. I do look forward to a forum that consist of real Darkfall players. And have no fear, we will flame everything we don`t like in Darkfall.
ok i am sorry but this just sounds stupid now! if you did not follow the game why do you even post in here?
they must have the funds to improve the game cause nobody threw the damn NA server in there face!!
i just tried to explain to you guys why there are not 300 k Players in DF! that is all! The players that are there talk sometimes about how many are actually suscribed but! most of us do not care every pvp game has it's hot zones DF has many of them. just experiencing the Full Loot system is worth 50 bucks!