That sucks dude, I feel sorry for the 50 or so people that buy the NA client. Kinda hard to PvP by yourself, lol. The game wouldn't be entirely horrible if there weren't so many hacks, that's the reason I didn't bother to resub on the EU servers after the free month.
US1 is populated enough not to be a ghost town. This is a troll thread.
Further proof: Half of the NA clans rerolled NA 1and each have gotten new people. Some new clans joined.
Sorry bro, nothing from DF forums and AV are proves. They are collectively labelled dubious at best.
However, if enough people complain about an empty world, unless we have reasons to doubt each and every claim, we would start feeling alarmed.
Sad to dismiss Tasos and his clowns, but after so many rounds of fouls, its hard to suddenly trust him. I still have a little bit of intelligence and memory left here.
Those are reports by players
With the shady business practice of AV, I will not believe in anything they allow to stay on their policed and fabricated webpage or forum. I have my intelligence, and memory, left in my brain.
Yeah not a troll post. Someone who is legit in trying to warn people about the game. Similiar complaints have appeared so hopefully people start taking the posts more seriously. Or we will continue to see treads like this.
The OP is an obvious troll post and so is your reply. To claim any starter town lacks NPC's or Mobs is complete and utter misinformation, and the fact so many of you use blatant lies to further troll this forum is shameful. I'd like one person who believes this person to actually send me a tell in game "China Cat" . None of you can, because not one of you play this game and know wtf you are talking about.
-CC
No we can't because no we don't play the game. Because we are smart and require a higher quality instead of an empty world aka "sandbox." So have fun with that. I wan't developers that actually appear to have put some effort into the game so I'll stick to games were I know I'll get my money's worth.
Calling everyone who has a different view or experience a "troll" is a very trollish thing to do btw.
Look at your exploit-free game! No bugs, no exploits! More solid than ANY other MMO around!
Oh, and this happened TODAY.
Ultima Online 98~04 Dark Age of Camelot 03~07 Final Fantasy XI 04~06 Guild Wars 05~08 World of Warcraft 04~05 Unsuccessful Tries: DFO/EQ2/DRaja/Rag/Req/RYL/9D/Cabal/KO/PSU/RF/GE/TO/TR/DDO/EVE/LoTRO/L2/RZ/SWG/VG
Yeah not a troll post. Someone who is legit in trying to warn people about the game. Similiar complaints have appeared so hopefully people start taking the posts more seriously. Or we will continue to see treads like this.
The OP is an obvious troll post and so is your reply. To claim any starter town lacks NPC's or Mobs is complete and utter misinformation, and the fact so many of you use blatant lies to further troll this forum is shameful. I'd like one person who believes this person to actually send me a tell in game "China Cat" . None of you can, because not one of you play this game and know wtf you are talking about.
-CC
No we can't because no we don't play the game. Because we are smart and require a higher quality instead of an empty world aka "sandbox." So have fun with that. I wan't developers that actually appear to have put some effort into the game so I'll stick to games were I know I'll get my money's worth.
Calling everyone who has a different view or experience a "troll" is a very trollish thing to do btw.
How can you intelligently comment on a game you don't play?
Look at your signature, of course this isn't a game for you. It's obvious, and so is your trolling.
"Signature by natuxatu
Playing: Lord of the Rings Online
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Excited for: Aion & Guild Wars 2 & Final Fantasy XIV
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Have Played: World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XI, Guild Wars, Lord of the Rings Online, Vanguard, City of Heroes/Villians, EverQuest 2, Tabula Rasa, Dungeons & Dragons Online, The Chronical of Spellborn, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan
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Favorite MMO: Final Fantasy XI"
How would you feel if a person who never played those those games you enjoy started to post negative remarks on every thread, yet they aren't playing the game and have no first hand clue what they are talking about? Grow up.
-CC
"Lately it occurs to me, what a long, strange trip it's been". -Hunter
Yeah not a troll post. Someone who is legit in trying to warn people about the game. Similiar complaints have appeared so hopefully people start taking the posts more seriously. Or we will continue to see treads like this.
The OP is an obvious troll post and so is your reply. To claim any starter town lacks NPC's or Mobs is complete and utter misinformation, and the fact so many of you use blatant lies to further troll this forum is shameful. I'd like one person who believes this person to actually send me a tell in game "China Cat" . None of you can, because not one of you play this game and know wtf you are talking about.
-CC
No we can't because no we don't play the game. Because we are smart and require a higher quality instead of an empty world aka "sandbox." So have fun with that. I wan't developers that actually appear to have put some effort into the game so I'll stick to games were I know I'll get my money's worth.
Calling everyone who has a different view or experience a "troll" is a very trollish thing to do btw.
How can you intelligently comment on a game you don't play?
Look at your signature, of course this isn't a game for you. It's obvious, and so is your trolling.
"Signature by natuxatu
Playing: Lord of the Rings Online
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Excited for: Aion & Guild Wars 2 & Final Fantasy XIV
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Have Played: World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XI, Guild Wars, Lord of the Rings Online, Vanguard, City of Heroes/Villians, EverQuest 2, Tabula Rasa, Dungeons & Dragons Online, The Chronical of Spellborn, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan
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Favorite MMO: Final Fantasy XI"
How would you feel if a person who never played those you game you enjoy started to post negative remarks on every thread, yet they aren't playing the game and have no first hand clue what they are talking about? Grow up.
-CC
Going personal again?
Someone who enjoyed certain games are not intelligent? Someone who does not play a game cannot comment? If that is your criterion, go read darkfall forums, those people are active players.
I never care if that person plays a game or not. I read what he writes and see if he makes sense. Judgment is on what he wrote not his prior background. Likewise I don't care if he is black or white, young or old, male or female. All judgment is on the basis of the things written, reason presented.
From what you write, I see desperate attempts to go personal against another member of this web, pulling totally irrelevant personal information to try to exclude another member from airing views. Personal discrimination, in short.
Yeah not a troll post. Someone who is legit in trying to warn people about the game. Similiar complaints have appeared so hopefully people start taking the posts more seriously. Or we will continue to see treads like this.
The OP is an obvious troll post and so is your reply. To claim any starter town lacks NPC's or Mobs is complete and utter misinformation, and the fact so many of you use blatant lies to further troll this forum is shameful. I'd like one person who believes this person to actually send me a tell in game "China Cat" . None of you can, because not one of you play this game and know wtf you are talking about.
-CC
No we can't because no we don't play the game. Because we are smart and require a higher quality instead of an empty world aka "sandbox." So have fun with that. I wan't developers that actually appear to have put some effort into the game so I'll stick to games were I know I'll get my money's worth.
Calling everyone who has a different view or experience a "troll" is a very trollish thing to do btw.
How can you intelligently comment on a game you don't play?
Look at your signature, of course this isn't a game for you. It's obvious, and so is your trolling.
"Signature by natuxatu
Playing: Lord of the Rings Online
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Excited for: Aion & Guild Wars 2 & Final Fantasy XIV
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Have Played: World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XI, Guild Wars, Lord of the Rings Online, Vanguard, City of Heroes/Villians, EverQuest 2, Tabula Rasa, Dungeons & Dragons Online, The Chronical of Spellborn, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan
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Favorite MMO: Final Fantasy XI"
How would you feel if a person who never played those those games you enjoy started to post negative remarks on every thread, yet they aren't playing the game and have no first hand clue what they are talking about? Grow up.
-CC
you know, your attempts to discredit people by going personal have backfired so bad.
Yeah not a troll post. Someone who is legit in trying to warn people about the game. Similiar complaints have appeared so hopefully people start taking the posts more seriously. Or we will continue to see treads like this.
The OP is an obvious troll post and so is your reply. To claim any starter town lacks NPC's or Mobs is complete and utter misinformation, and the fact so many of you use blatant lies to further troll this forum is shameful. I'd like one person who believes this person to actually send me a tell in game "China Cat" . None of you can, because not one of you play this game and know wtf you are talking about.
-CC
No we can't because no we don't play the game. Because we are smart and require a higher quality instead of an empty world aka "sandbox." So have fun with that. I wan't developers that actually appear to have put some effort into the game so I'll stick to games were I know I'll get my money's worth.
Calling everyone who has a different view or experience a "troll" is a very trollish thing to do btw.
How can you intelligently comment on a game you don't play?
Look at your signature, of course this isn't a game for you. It's obvious, and so is your trolling.
"Signature by natuxatu
Playing: Lord of the Rings Online
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Excited for: Aion & Guild Wars 2 & Final Fantasy XIV
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Have Played: World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XI, Guild Wars, Lord of the Rings Online, Vanguard, City of Heroes/Villians, EverQuest 2, Tabula Rasa, Dungeons & Dragons Online, The Chronical of Spellborn, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan
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Favorite MMO: Final Fantasy XI"
How would you feel if a person who never played those those games you enjoy started to post negative remarks on every thread, yet they aren't playing the game and have no first hand clue what they are talking about? Grow up.
-CC
you know, your attempts to discredit people by going personal have backfired so bad.
you just seems like a wierdo stalker to me now.
Sigh, I warned him on the DFO boards not to go over board. Apparently it didn't take. Sometimes it makes us all look bad; HOWEVER, the post he replied to did the exact same thing. A person who loved FFXI and list it as his/her fav game is not going to like DFO. A person who hasn't played the game shouldn't talk about "nail in the coffin" since they don't know at all what the problems of the game are, just what people tell them the problem is.
Yeah not a troll post. Someone who is legit in trying to warn people about the game. Similiar complaints have appeared so hopefully people start taking the posts more seriously. Or we will continue to see treads like this.
The OP is an obvious troll post and so is your reply. To claim any starter town lacks NPC's or Mobs is complete and utter misinformation, and the fact so many of you use blatant lies to further troll this forum is shameful. I'd like one person who believes this person to actually send me a tell in game "China Cat" . None of you can, because not one of you play this game and know wtf you are talking about.
-CC
No we can't because no we don't play the game. Because we are smart and require a higher quality instead of an empty world aka "sandbox." So have fun with that. I wan't developers that actually appear to have put some effort into the game so I'll stick to games were I know I'll get my money's worth.
Calling everyone who has a different view or experience a "troll" is a very trollish thing to do btw.
How can you intelligently comment on a game you don't play?
Look at your signature, of course this isn't a game for you. It's obvious, and so is your trolling.
"Signature by natuxatu
Playing: Lord of the Rings Online
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Excited for: Aion & Guild Wars 2 & Final Fantasy XIV
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Have Played: World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XI, Guild Wars, Lord of the Rings Online, Vanguard, City of Heroes/Villians, EverQuest 2, Tabula Rasa, Dungeons & Dragons Online, The Chronical of Spellborn, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan
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Favorite MMO: Final Fantasy XI"
How would you feel if a person who never played those those games you enjoy started to post negative remarks on every thread, yet they aren't playing the game and have no first hand clue what they are talking about? Grow up.
-CC
you know, your attempts to discredit people by going personal have backfired so bad.
you just seems like a wierdo stalker to me now.
If someone's behavior appears to be stalking, they should be reported and brought to the site owner's attention, ASAP.
Stalking is a disturbed behavior pattern and it often escalates to worse things.
If someone came on a messageboard and put down a game I enjoy I would not care. Why?
Because I know others will have differing points of view and there is nothing I can do to change it. I can debate till my face turned blue it would not change that they, for some reason, dislike the game. Going personal to discredit another poster is low.
Sigh, I warned him on the DFO boards not to go over board. Apparently it didn't take. Sometimes it makes us all look bad; HOWEVER, the post he replied to did the exact same thing. A person who loved FFXI and list it as his/her fav game is not going to like DFO. A person who hasn't played the game shouldn't talk about "nail in the coffin" since they don't know at all what the problems of the game are, just what people tell them the problem is.
A person who plays SB should like DFo. A person who plays FFXI should not like DFo. Very very scientific conclusions based on ... err I don't know.
How about a person who plays both SB and FFXI. Should he like DFo? Or should he ask you to decide for him whether he likes it or not?
Guys, we have an additional prerequisite to play DFo. You must not like DFo, or you are not going to enjoy DFo. So says the know-all god-like ominiscient ... somebody.
Sigh, I warned him on the DFO boards not to go over board. Apparently it didn't take. Sometimes it makes us all look bad; HOWEVER, the post he replied to did the exact same thing. A person who loved FFXI and list it as his/her fav game is not going to like DFO. A person who hasn't played the game shouldn't talk about "nail in the coffin" since they don't know at all what the problems of the game are, just what people tell them the problem is.
A person who plays SB should like DFo. A person who plays FFXI should not like DFo. Very very scientific conclusions based on ... err I don't know.
How about a person who plays both SB and FFXI. Should he like DFo? Or should he ask you to decide for him whether he likes it or not?
Guys, we have an additional prerequisite to play DFo. You must not like DFo, or you are not going to enjoy DFo. So says the know-all god-like ominiscient ... somebody.
I ve played and liked FFXI, DAOC, SB, UO, LOTRO, EQ2, COH, PS, wide range of games, Guess what I hated DFO. Theres no if you like FFXI you won t like DFO, some people like a wide range of games like me. DFO is simply sub par and run by scammers. Nothing more I can say. To any of you fanbois, don t bother saying you have no idea what you re talking about. I was looking forward to DFO as much as you were and probably could have been considered a fanbois before release. Simply put DFO is a bad game in almost all aspects.
Sigh, I warned him on the DFO boards not to go over board. Apparently it didn't take. Sometimes it makes us all look bad; HOWEVER, the post he replied to did the exact same thing. A person who loved FFXI and list it as his/her fav game is not going to like DFO. A person who hasn't played the game shouldn't talk about "nail in the coffin" since they don't know at all what the problems of the game are, just what people tell them the problem is.
A person who plays SB should like DFo. A person who plays FFXI should not like DFo. Very very scientific conclusions based on ... err I don't know.
How about a person who plays both SB and FFXI. Should he like DFo? Or should he ask you to decide for him whether he likes it or not?
Guys, we have an additional prerequisite to play DFo. You must not like DFo, or you are not going to enjoy DFo. So says the know-all god-like ominiscient ... somebody.
I ve played and liked FFXI, DAOC, SB, UO, LOTRO, EQ2, COH, PS, wide range of games, Guess what I hated DFO. Theres no if you like FFXI you won t like DFO, some people like a wide range of games like me. DFO is simply sub par and run by scammers. Nothing more I can say. To any of you fanbois, don t bother saying you have no idea what you re talking about. I was looking forward to DFO as much as you were and probably could have been considered a fanbois before release. Simply put DFO is a bad game in almost all aspects.
The difference between him and you is that you've played good Sandbox/Simulator games. A person who has only played Themepark games and doesn't like FFA PvP (which appears to be his number one complaint) won't like DFO at all.
Sigh, I warned him on the DFO boards not to go over board. Apparently it didn't take. Sometimes it makes us all look bad; HOWEVER, the post he replied to did the exact same thing. A person who loved FFXI and list it as his/her fav game is not going to like DFO. A person who hasn't played the game shouldn't talk about "nail in the coffin" since they don't know at all what the problems of the game are, just what people tell them the problem is.
A person who plays SB should like DFo. A person who plays FFXI should not like DFo. Very very scientific conclusions based on ... err I don't know.
How about a person who plays both SB and FFXI. Should he like DFo? Or should he ask you to decide for him whether he likes it or not?
Guys, we have an additional prerequisite to play DFo. You must not like DFo, or you are not going to enjoy DFo. So says the know-all god-like ominiscient ... somebody.
I ve played and liked FFXI, DAOC, SB, UO, LOTRO, EQ2, COH, PS, wide range of games, Guess what I hated DFO. Theres no if you like FFXI you won t like DFO, some people like a wide range of games like me. DFO is simply sub par and run by scammers. Nothing more I can say. To any of you fanbois, don t bother saying you have no idea what you re talking about. I was looking forward to DFO as much as you were and probably could have been considered a fanbois before release. Simply put DFO is a bad game in almost all aspects.
The difference between him and you is that you've played good Sandbox/Simulator games. A person who has only played Themepark games and doesn't like FFA PvP (which appears to be his number one complaint) won't like DFO at all.
That is not always true. My best friend from DAoC starts from EQ, he won't play UO b/c he hates the ganking. He only plays SWG as a merchant, b/c merchants can ignore all PvPing. Then he come to DAoC as I gave him one of my accounts from my family. He got hooked and he is the one always watching our keep. He rang us up 3am in the morning when our keep was under attack and we all cursed him while defending our keep. Midgard, percival server. We are all still in touch as we all have a house in the same neighborhood.
So its is nothing short of personal discrimination to rule out what a person enjoys because of his background. If a game is good, it can pull ppl from the other market segments. GW was another successul story. The lightweighted PvP brings joy to many PvEer, while the popularity lasts.
Failure of DF goes to the root of the game itself. It is not a personal crime to hate or love a game, but to dismiss the views of another player just b/c he loves FF or whatever, in the past, is not a valid reason. There is always a first time for everyone.
What I suggest is simple. Ignore the persons' background. Talk about the ideas he / she presents on its own.
Folks - If I followed members of MMORPG around on various forums posting in response to them, you would have a leg to stand on "maybe" in suggesting I'm a stalker. Given that this is the only board I post on in MMORPG.COM, with the exception of a handful of posts on MO "where I was stalked", what you infer makes absolutely no sense.
Obviously if this is the forum I read, I will be reading the posts. Now if those I am replying to here post once in a while, but I still manage to track down the needle of a post in a haystack, you may still have a case for such an abhorant suggestion, but that's not the case. Those I reply to where I address their constant negative take on every single good thing that is EVER said here, always post there. They live here.
Message boards are not the best way to communicate, because we lack hearing tone, body language, and such. I"m sure I may come across in a way I don't mean. To the extent that's true, I apologize. There is a thin line between healthy debate, and out right flagrant abuse of the freedom afforded here. I see a ton of abuse.
-CC
"Lately it occurs to me, what a long, strange trip it's been". -Hunter
No we can't because no we don't play the game. Because we are smart and require a higher quality instead of an empty world aka "sandbox." So have fun with that. I wan't developers that actually appear to have put some effort into the game so I'll stick to games were I know I'll get my money's worth. Calling everyone who has a different view or experience a "troll" is a very trollish thing to do btw.
The game itself is not to blame. DF has a lot of cool concepts working for it and with a little spit and polish, the game can shine. It's the devs that have created this dark aura surrounding the game by being less than truthful to their customers. And this "empty" world you talk of. Admittance of not playing the game is admittance of you not knowing wtf your talking about. Enemy mobs are placed around the world with a reason for them to be there. And once you start to actually explore the world, you will see that there are an abundance of things to try and kill. The game was designed this way. For a person new to the game, yes, it will seem devoid of all life. But once you start getting the hang of things, there are tons of shit to kill.
I am defending the game because for the month that i did play it, i had a pretty good time. I saw how some people can have a good time with it and saw that it may not be a game other people would like to play. Run with the crowd if you must, but DF is truly a unique gem of a game regardless of the shady dealings of it's developers.
Folks - If I followed members of MMORPG around on various forums posting in response to them, you would have a leg to stand on "maybe" in suggesting I'm a stalker. Given that this is the only board I post on in MMORPG.COM, with the exception of a handful of posts on MO "where I was stalked", what you infer makes absolutely no sense. Obviously if this is the forum I read, I will be reading the posts. Now if those I am replying to here post once in a while, but I still manage to track down the needle of a post in a haystack, you may still have a case for such an abhorant suggestion, but that's not the case. Those I reply to where I address their constant negative take on every single good thing that is EVER said here, always post there. They live here. Message boards are not the best way to communicate, because we lack hearing tone, body language, and such. I"m sure I may come across in a way I don't mean. To the extent that's true, I apologize. There is a thin line between healthy debate, and out right flagrant abuse of the freedom afforded here. I see a ton of abuse. -CC
I think the reason most see you as a "stalker" or some kind of wierdo are your tactics you use to discredit anyone who disagrees with you. You "do" follow ppl around from thread to thread, even to different boards and post the same messages. Your arguments are usually not about the game but they are personal attacks or about the persons post history. If you would argue the merits of the game and stop mentioning ppls post history over and over you would come off as more "normal", well as normal as us forum lurkers can be.......
I posted a link a week ago to a thread on the official DFO boards with people asking to have the chaos chests turned off because of the hackers.
A few people in this thread said it was all exageration.
When people who play the game all post in a thread that hackers are ruining the game for them it's all exageration, but when they post in a thread that there are plenty of people playing and the server isn't dead they are telling the truth?
Actually, when you start a new character, you are placed in a starter town near the bindstone. This is just a courtyard area. Not 20 feet from that spot, in the same courtyard, there's an NPC called a councillor, who gives out starter quests. Usually, it's kill some goblins. The goblins are usually right outside the courtyard, probably about 50 yards away. They also put up markers on the mini-map to show you where they are when you get the quest.
Since there's only a few starter areas, and people start in the same place, I've generally seen other new players killing goblins and such.
Oh, also, NPC's in towns show up as orange dots on the mini-map. Usually the starter towns will have a merchant, fighter, mage, and the various crafting trainers.
While it's not a perfect game, I'd have to be a bit skeptical that you were unable to find a single NPC with a new character.
Quite a few mobs do not appear until you hang around their spawning location for a few minutes, so I can easily see how a new player not knowing this can run around not finding anything out there. Or has this changed?
Most will end up having to print a map of the world showing all spawn locations because of this. Sure some will disagree, but this is just another annoyance of the many dealing with pve, especialy if you are the type who enjoys exploring as part of game play.
just call your cc company and get your money back and say its scam since it realy is a scam dont give them any money
no it isnt
Lol if it sin t then how did so many get their money back. It s the closest to a scam since Dark and Light. You ll get your money back for sure. I know many that have.
So i make my char generic as hell customization log in one other player..... runs around with no destonation Not one NPC not one...... i mean really no mobs no npcs nothing i mean.. wtf it was just me and a empty world i would have rather burned my money
you start at a binding stone at a City. with in a few feet there is the first npc, and you did not see that, You missed all the npc in town to i suppose.
if you cant find a npc when you first start the game you should indeed have not bought this game. but you should have gotten glasses instead first
So i make my char generic as hell customization log in one other player..... runs around with no destonation Not one NPC not one...... i mean really no mobs no npcs nothing i mean.. wtf it was just me and a empty world i would have rather burned my money
you start at a binding stone at a City. with in a few feet there is the first npc, and you did not see that, You missed all the npc in town to i suppose.
if you cant find a npc when you first start the game you should indeed have not bought this game. but you should have gotten glasses instead first
Really just look around there are 5-6 NPC's in the whole empty town and the mobs are outside in one of 4 directions but not every direction.
As someone said above, due to the crappy coding of the game they have to shut off MOBs if they are not being used to cut down on server load (game can only apparently handle 10K TOTAL mobile objects hence the guard towers and no guards) so if you don't stay in an area long enough for the pop to occur you won't see any MOBs.
Some outlying towns, ruins, whatever you can run into with nothing around and when you start back out you are surrounded by high level MOBs that popped since you showed up.
Great design LOL, but understandable for 1st year tradeschool level amateur programmers with a shoestring budget for hardware / bandwidth rental.
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US1 is populated enough not to be a ghost town. This is a troll thread.
Proof?
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=203556
Further proof: Half of the NA clans rerolled NA 1and each have gotten new people. Some new clans joined.
Sorry bro, nothing from DF forums and AV are proves. They are collectively labelled dubious at best.
However, if enough people complain about an empty world, unless we have reasons to doubt each and every claim, we would start feeling alarmed.
Sad to dismiss Tasos and his clowns, but after so many rounds of fouls, its hard to suddenly trust him. I still have a little bit of intelligence and memory left here.
Those are reports by players
With the shady business practice of AV, I will not believe in anything they allow to stay on their policed and fabricated webpage or forum. I have my intelligence, and memory, left in my brain.
The OP is an obvious troll post and so is your reply. To claim any starter town lacks NPC's or Mobs is complete and utter misinformation, and the fact so many of you use blatant lies to further troll this forum is shameful. I'd like one person who believes this person to actually send me a tell in game "China Cat" . None of you can, because not one of you play this game and know wtf you are talking about.
-CC
No we can't because no we don't play the game. Because we are smart and require a higher quality instead of an empty world aka "sandbox." So have fun with that. I wan't developers that actually appear to have put some effort into the game so I'll stick to games were I know I'll get my money's worth.
Calling everyone who has a different view or experience a "troll" is a very trollish thing to do btw.
Look at your exploit-free game! No bugs, no exploits! More solid than ANY other MMO around!
Oh, and this happened TODAY.
Ultima Online 98~04
Dark Age of Camelot 03~07
Final Fantasy XI 04~06
Guild Wars 05~08
World of Warcraft 04~05
Unsuccessful Tries: DFO/EQ2/DRaja/Rag/Req/RYL/9D/Cabal/KO/PSU/RF/GE/TO/TR/DDO/EVE/LoTRO/L2/RZ/SWG/VG
Damn Cheaters doesn't work on the US1 server. I'm guessing it has to do with how GNi servers send packets.
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
The OP is an obvious troll post and so is your reply. To claim any starter town lacks NPC's or Mobs is complete and utter misinformation, and the fact so many of you use blatant lies to further troll this forum is shameful. I'd like one person who believes this person to actually send me a tell in game "China Cat" . None of you can, because not one of you play this game and know wtf you are talking about.
-CC
No we can't because no we don't play the game. Because we are smart and require a higher quality instead of an empty world aka "sandbox." So have fun with that. I wan't developers that actually appear to have put some effort into the game so I'll stick to games were I know I'll get my money's worth.
Calling everyone who has a different view or experience a "troll" is a very trollish thing to do btw.
How can you intelligently comment on a game you don't play?
Look at your signature, of course this isn't a game for you. It's obvious, and so is your trolling.
"Signature by natuxatu
Playing: Lord of the Rings Online
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Excited for: Aion & Guild Wars 2 & Final Fantasy XIV
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Have Played: World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XI, Guild Wars, Lord of the Rings Online, Vanguard, City of Heroes/Villians, EverQuest 2, Tabula Rasa, Dungeons & Dragons Online, The Chronical of Spellborn, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan
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Favorite MMO: Final Fantasy XI"
How would you feel if a person who never played those those games you enjoy started to post negative remarks on every thread, yet they aren't playing the game and have no first hand clue what they are talking about? Grow up.
-CC
"Lately it occurs to me,
what a long, strange trip it's been". -Hunter
The OP is an obvious troll post and so is your reply. To claim any starter town lacks NPC's or Mobs is complete and utter misinformation, and the fact so many of you use blatant lies to further troll this forum is shameful. I'd like one person who believes this person to actually send me a tell in game "China Cat" . None of you can, because not one of you play this game and know wtf you are talking about.
-CC
No we can't because no we don't play the game. Because we are smart and require a higher quality instead of an empty world aka "sandbox." So have fun with that. I wan't developers that actually appear to have put some effort into the game so I'll stick to games were I know I'll get my money's worth.
Calling everyone who has a different view or experience a "troll" is a very trollish thing to do btw.
How can you intelligently comment on a game you don't play?
Look at your signature, of course this isn't a game for you. It's obvious, and so is your trolling.
"Signature by natuxatu
Playing: Lord of the Rings Online
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Excited for: Aion & Guild Wars 2 & Final Fantasy XIV
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Have Played: World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XI, Guild Wars, Lord of the Rings Online, Vanguard, City of Heroes/Villians, EverQuest 2, Tabula Rasa, Dungeons & Dragons Online, The Chronical of Spellborn, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan
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Favorite MMO: Final Fantasy XI"
How would you feel if a person who never played those you game you enjoy started to post negative remarks on every thread, yet they aren't playing the game and have no first hand clue what they are talking about? Grow up.
-CC
Going personal again?
Someone who enjoyed certain games are not intelligent? Someone who does not play a game cannot comment? If that is your criterion, go read darkfall forums, those people are active players.
I never care if that person plays a game or not. I read what he writes and see if he makes sense. Judgment is on what he wrote not his prior background. Likewise I don't care if he is black or white, young or old, male or female. All judgment is on the basis of the things written, reason presented.
From what you write, I see desperate attempts to go personal against another member of this web, pulling totally irrelevant personal information to try to exclude another member from airing views. Personal discrimination, in short.
The OP is an obvious troll post and so is your reply. To claim any starter town lacks NPC's or Mobs is complete and utter misinformation, and the fact so many of you use blatant lies to further troll this forum is shameful. I'd like one person who believes this person to actually send me a tell in game "China Cat" . None of you can, because not one of you play this game and know wtf you are talking about.
-CC
No we can't because no we don't play the game. Because we are smart and require a higher quality instead of an empty world aka "sandbox." So have fun with that. I wan't developers that actually appear to have put some effort into the game so I'll stick to games were I know I'll get my money's worth.
Calling everyone who has a different view or experience a "troll" is a very trollish thing to do btw.
How can you intelligently comment on a game you don't play?
Look at your signature, of course this isn't a game for you. It's obvious, and so is your trolling.
"Signature by natuxatu
Playing: Lord of the Rings Online
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Excited for: Aion & Guild Wars 2 & Final Fantasy XIV
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Have Played: World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XI, Guild Wars, Lord of the Rings Online, Vanguard, City of Heroes/Villians, EverQuest 2, Tabula Rasa, Dungeons & Dragons Online, The Chronical of Spellborn, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan
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Favorite MMO: Final Fantasy XI"
How would you feel if a person who never played those those games you enjoy started to post negative remarks on every thread, yet they aren't playing the game and have no first hand clue what they are talking about? Grow up.
-CC
you know, your attempts to discredit people by going personal have backfired so bad.
you just seems like a wierdo stalker to me now.
The OP is an obvious troll post and so is your reply. To claim any starter town lacks NPC's or Mobs is complete and utter misinformation, and the fact so many of you use blatant lies to further troll this forum is shameful. I'd like one person who believes this person to actually send me a tell in game "China Cat" . None of you can, because not one of you play this game and know wtf you are talking about.
-CC
No we can't because no we don't play the game. Because we are smart and require a higher quality instead of an empty world aka "sandbox." So have fun with that. I wan't developers that actually appear to have put some effort into the game so I'll stick to games were I know I'll get my money's worth.
Calling everyone who has a different view or experience a "troll" is a very trollish thing to do btw.
How can you intelligently comment on a game you don't play?
Look at your signature, of course this isn't a game for you. It's obvious, and so is your trolling.
"Signature by natuxatu
Playing: Lord of the Rings Online
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Excited for: Aion & Guild Wars 2 & Final Fantasy XIV
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Have Played: World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XI, Guild Wars, Lord of the Rings Online, Vanguard, City of Heroes/Villians, EverQuest 2, Tabula Rasa, Dungeons & Dragons Online, The Chronical of Spellborn, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan
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Favorite MMO: Final Fantasy XI"
How would you feel if a person who never played those those games you enjoy started to post negative remarks on every thread, yet they aren't playing the game and have no first hand clue what they are talking about? Grow up.
-CC
you know, your attempts to discredit people by going personal have backfired so bad.
you just seems like a wierdo stalker to me now.
Sigh, I warned him on the DFO boards not to go over board. Apparently it didn't take. Sometimes it makes us all look bad; HOWEVER, the post he replied to did the exact same thing. A person who loved FFXI and list it as his/her fav game is not going to like DFO. A person who hasn't played the game shouldn't talk about "nail in the coffin" since they don't know at all what the problems of the game are, just what people tell them the problem is.
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
The OP is an obvious troll post and so is your reply. To claim any starter town lacks NPC's or Mobs is complete and utter misinformation, and the fact so many of you use blatant lies to further troll this forum is shameful. I'd like one person who believes this person to actually send me a tell in game "China Cat" . None of you can, because not one of you play this game and know wtf you are talking about.
-CC
No we can't because no we don't play the game. Because we are smart and require a higher quality instead of an empty world aka "sandbox." So have fun with that. I wan't developers that actually appear to have put some effort into the game so I'll stick to games were I know I'll get my money's worth.
Calling everyone who has a different view or experience a "troll" is a very trollish thing to do btw.
How can you intelligently comment on a game you don't play?
Look at your signature, of course this isn't a game for you. It's obvious, and so is your trolling.
"Signature by natuxatu
Playing: Lord of the Rings Online
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Excited for: Aion & Guild Wars 2 & Final Fantasy XIV
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Have Played: World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XI, Guild Wars, Lord of the Rings Online, Vanguard, City of Heroes/Villians, EverQuest 2, Tabula Rasa, Dungeons & Dragons Online, The Chronical of Spellborn, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan
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Favorite MMO: Final Fantasy XI"
How would you feel if a person who never played those those games you enjoy started to post negative remarks on every thread, yet they aren't playing the game and have no first hand clue what they are talking about? Grow up.
-CC
you know, your attempts to discredit people by going personal have backfired so bad.
you just seems like a wierdo stalker to me now.
If someone's behavior appears to be stalking, they should be reported and brought to the site owner's attention, ASAP.
Stalking is a disturbed behavior pattern and it often escalates to worse things.
If someone came on a messageboard and put down a game I enjoy I would not care. Why?
Because I know others will have differing points of view and there is nothing I can do to change it. I can debate till my face turned blue it would not change that they, for some reason, dislike the game. Going personal to discredit another poster is low.
Sigh, I warned him on the DFO boards not to go over board. Apparently it didn't take. Sometimes it makes us all look bad; HOWEVER, the post he replied to did the exact same thing. A person who loved FFXI and list it as his/her fav game is not going to like DFO. A person who hasn't played the game shouldn't talk about "nail in the coffin" since they don't know at all what the problems of the game are, just what people tell them the problem is.
A person who plays SB should like DFo. A person who plays FFXI should not like DFo. Very very scientific conclusions based on ... err I don't know.
How about a person who plays both SB and FFXI. Should he like DFo? Or should he ask you to decide for him whether he likes it or not?
Guys, we have an additional prerequisite to play DFo. You must not like DFo, or you are not going to enjoy DFo. So says the know-all god-like ominiscient ... somebody.
Sigh, I warned him on the DFO boards not to go over board. Apparently it didn't take. Sometimes it makes us all look bad; HOWEVER, the post he replied to did the exact same thing. A person who loved FFXI and list it as his/her fav game is not going to like DFO. A person who hasn't played the game shouldn't talk about "nail in the coffin" since they don't know at all what the problems of the game are, just what people tell them the problem is.
A person who plays SB should like DFo. A person who plays FFXI should not like DFo. Very very scientific conclusions based on ... err I don't know.
How about a person who plays both SB and FFXI. Should he like DFo? Or should he ask you to decide for him whether he likes it or not?
Guys, we have an additional prerequisite to play DFo. You must not like DFo, or you are not going to enjoy DFo. So says the know-all god-like ominiscient ... somebody.
I ve played and liked FFXI, DAOC, SB, UO, LOTRO, EQ2, COH, PS, wide range of games, Guess what I hated DFO. Theres no if you like FFXI you won t like DFO, some people like a wide range of games like me. DFO is simply sub par and run by scammers. Nothing more I can say. To any of you fanbois, don t bother saying you have no idea what you re talking about. I was looking forward to DFO as much as you were and probably could have been considered a fanbois before release. Simply put DFO is a bad game in almost all aspects.
Sigh, I warned him on the DFO boards not to go over board. Apparently it didn't take. Sometimes it makes us all look bad; HOWEVER, the post he replied to did the exact same thing. A person who loved FFXI and list it as his/her fav game is not going to like DFO. A person who hasn't played the game shouldn't talk about "nail in the coffin" since they don't know at all what the problems of the game are, just what people tell them the problem is.
A person who plays SB should like DFo. A person who plays FFXI should not like DFo. Very very scientific conclusions based on ... err I don't know.
How about a person who plays both SB and FFXI. Should he like DFo? Or should he ask you to decide for him whether he likes it or not?
Guys, we have an additional prerequisite to play DFo. You must not like DFo, or you are not going to enjoy DFo. So says the know-all god-like ominiscient ... somebody.
I ve played and liked FFXI, DAOC, SB, UO, LOTRO, EQ2, COH, PS, wide range of games, Guess what I hated DFO. Theres no if you like FFXI you won t like DFO, some people like a wide range of games like me. DFO is simply sub par and run by scammers. Nothing more I can say. To any of you fanbois, don t bother saying you have no idea what you re talking about. I was looking forward to DFO as much as you were and probably could have been considered a fanbois before release. Simply put DFO is a bad game in almost all aspects.
The difference between him and you is that you've played good Sandbox/Simulator games. A person who has only played Themepark games and doesn't like FFA PvP (which appears to be his number one complaint) won't like DFO at all.
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
Sigh, I warned him on the DFO boards not to go over board. Apparently it didn't take. Sometimes it makes us all look bad; HOWEVER, the post he replied to did the exact same thing. A person who loved FFXI and list it as his/her fav game is not going to like DFO. A person who hasn't played the game shouldn't talk about "nail in the coffin" since they don't know at all what the problems of the game are, just what people tell them the problem is.
A person who plays SB should like DFo. A person who plays FFXI should not like DFo. Very very scientific conclusions based on ... err I don't know.
How about a person who plays both SB and FFXI. Should he like DFo? Or should he ask you to decide for him whether he likes it or not?
Guys, we have an additional prerequisite to play DFo. You must not like DFo, or you are not going to enjoy DFo. So says the know-all god-like ominiscient ... somebody.
I ve played and liked FFXI, DAOC, SB, UO, LOTRO, EQ2, COH, PS, wide range of games, Guess what I hated DFO. Theres no if you like FFXI you won t like DFO, some people like a wide range of games like me. DFO is simply sub par and run by scammers. Nothing more I can say. To any of you fanbois, don t bother saying you have no idea what you re talking about. I was looking forward to DFO as much as you were and probably could have been considered a fanbois before release. Simply put DFO is a bad game in almost all aspects.
The difference between him and you is that you've played good Sandbox/Simulator games. A person who has only played Themepark games and doesn't like FFA PvP (which appears to be his number one complaint) won't like DFO at all.
That is not always true. My best friend from DAoC starts from EQ, he won't play UO b/c he hates the ganking. He only plays SWG as a merchant, b/c merchants can ignore all PvPing. Then he come to DAoC as I gave him one of my accounts from my family. He got hooked and he is the one always watching our keep. He rang us up 3am in the morning when our keep was under attack and we all cursed him while defending our keep. Midgard, percival server. We are all still in touch as we all have a house in the same neighborhood.
So its is nothing short of personal discrimination to rule out what a person enjoys because of his background. If a game is good, it can pull ppl from the other market segments. GW was another successul story. The lightweighted PvP brings joy to many PvEer, while the popularity lasts.
Failure of DF goes to the root of the game itself. It is not a personal crime to hate or love a game, but to dismiss the views of another player just b/c he loves FF or whatever, in the past, is not a valid reason. There is always a first time for everyone.
What I suggest is simple. Ignore the persons' background. Talk about the ideas he / she presents on its own.
Folks - If I followed members of MMORPG around on various forums posting in response to them, you would have a leg to stand on "maybe" in suggesting I'm a stalker. Given that this is the only board I post on in MMORPG.COM, with the exception of a handful of posts on MO "where I was stalked", what you infer makes absolutely no sense.
Obviously if this is the forum I read, I will be reading the posts. Now if those I am replying to here post once in a while, but I still manage to track down the needle of a post in a haystack, you may still have a case for such an abhorant suggestion, but that's not the case. Those I reply to where I address their constant negative take on every single good thing that is EVER said here, always post there. They live here.
Message boards are not the best way to communicate, because we lack hearing tone, body language, and such. I"m sure I may come across in a way I don't mean. To the extent that's true, I apologize. There is a thin line between healthy debate, and out right flagrant abuse of the freedom afforded here. I see a ton of abuse.
-CC
"Lately it occurs to me,
what a long, strange trip it's been". -Hunter
The game itself is not to blame. DF has a lot of cool concepts working for it and with a little spit and polish, the game can shine. It's the devs that have created this dark aura surrounding the game by being less than truthful to their customers. And this "empty" world you talk of. Admittance of not playing the game is admittance of you not knowing wtf your talking about. Enemy mobs are placed around the world with a reason for them to be there. And once you start to actually explore the world, you will see that there are an abundance of things to try and kill. The game was designed this way. For a person new to the game, yes, it will seem devoid of all life. But once you start getting the hang of things, there are tons of shit to kill.
I am defending the game because for the month that i did play it, i had a pretty good time. I saw how some people can have a good time with it and saw that it may not be a game other people would like to play. Run with the crowd if you must, but DF is truly a unique gem of a game regardless of the shady dealings of it's developers.
When I saw what a total and complete failure the game was I bitched on the forums and was banned from the forums and the game within 1 week.
I think the reason most see you as a "stalker" or some kind of wierdo are your tactics you use to discredit anyone who disagrees with you. You "do" follow ppl around from thread to thread, even to different boards and post the same messages. Your arguments are usually not about the game but they are personal attacks or about the persons post history. If you would argue the merits of the game and stop mentioning ppls post history over and over you would come off as more "normal", well as normal as us forum lurkers can be.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbxh-LLb1ag
Fixed your link for you.
Funny,
I posted a link a week ago to a thread on the official DFO boards with people asking to have the chaos chests turned off because of the hackers.
A few people in this thread said it was all exageration.
When people who play the game all post in a thread that hackers are ruining the game for them it's all exageration, but when they post in a thread that there are plenty of people playing and the server isn't dead they are telling the truth?
Quite a few mobs do not appear until you hang around their spawning location for a few minutes, so I can easily see how a new player not knowing this can run around not finding anything out there. Or has this changed?
Most will end up having to print a map of the world showing all spawn locations because of this. Sure some will disagree, but this is just another annoyance of the many dealing with pve, especialy if you are the type who enjoys exploring as part of game play.
What an awesome map! That's almost interesting enough to get me to buy Darkfall.
no it isnt
no it isnt
Lol if it sin t then how did so many get their money back. It s the closest to a scam since Dark and Light. You ll get your money back for sure. I know many that have.
you start at a binding stone at a City. with in a few feet there is the first npc, and you did not see that, You missed all the npc in town to i suppose.
if you cant find a npc when you first start the game you should indeed have not bought this game. but you should have gotten glasses instead first
you start at a binding stone at a City. with in a few feet there is the first npc, and you did not see that, You missed all the npc in town to i suppose.
if you cant find a npc when you first start the game you should indeed have not bought this game. but you should have gotten glasses instead first
Really just look around there are 5-6 NPC's in the whole empty town and the mobs are outside in one of 4 directions but not every direction.
As someone said above, due to the crappy coding of the game they have to shut off MOBs if they are not being used to cut down on server load (game can only apparently handle 10K TOTAL mobile objects hence the guard towers and no guards) so if you don't stay in an area long enough for the pop to occur you won't see any MOBs.
Some outlying towns, ruins, whatever you can run into with nothing around and when you start back out you are surrounded by high level MOBs that popped since you showed up.
Great design LOL, but understandable for 1st year tradeschool level amateur programmers with a shoestring budget for hardware / bandwidth rental.