Trying to get back to WAR right now. First time since I left it last november. Well, everything is just the same. This game is boring like... well, Bergman's films. Thoughtless one-button mashing combat in what had to be "a great PvP game" is just sad. Mark fully deserves his firing. MMORPG without a good combat gameplay will never become a real WoW competitor. Perhaps a bad combat isn't the only reason of the game's failure, but I (and I bet a lot of more) just don't care of others...
A piece of forumhistory here Funny to read the praise this game got at the beginning and now to look back and see what went wrong and also how the fanboys didn't see past their own nose. It's the same old story though. Fanboys will defend their crap and the haters will attack it relentlessy. Can't take any of them seriously. They're both full of crap.
Anyway this game failed for me. Bought the box at launch, didn't even make it past the first free month and promptly stashed in away and forgot about it.
Originally posted by slask777 A piece of forumhistory here Funny to read the praise this game got at the beginning and now to look back and see what went wrong and also how the fanboys didn't see past their own nose. It's the same old story though. Fanboys will defend their crap and the haters will attack it relentlessy. Can't take any of them seriously. They're both full of crap. Anyway this game failed for me. Bought the box at launch, didn't even make it past the first free month and promptly stashed in away and forgot about it.
Nah, bullshit. It's not fanboys. It's just time. You need some time you know to understand whether this new MMORPG good or bad. It took me month to understand it was a crap. I hoped something would get changed to better but now it's obvious I mistook...
In all fairness, though- I DID sign back up the day that Mark Jacobs got fired and have been enjoying it for waht its worth. All it took was consolidating 85% of servers so that there would be people to RvR with. There's still not much going on in the PQs, but I have been in Scenarios constantly.
In all fairness, though- I DID sign back up the day that Mark Jacobs got fired and have been enjoying it for waht its worth. All it took was consolidating 85% of servers so that there would be people to RvR with. There's still not much going on in the PQs, but I have been in Scenarios constantly.
So, let me get this straight. You are enjoying the game now? And you only enjoying it because of HIS work in the last few months since nothing has changed after he's left. You wasn't enjoy the game back then, you are enjoying it now yet you only sign back up when you heard he's gone. It sounds to me like you are having personal issue with the man and not the game.
In all fairness, though- I DID sign back up the day that Mark Jacobs got fired and have been enjoying it for waht its worth. All it took was consolidating 85% of servers so that there would be people to RvR with. There's still not much going on in the PQs, but I have been in Scenarios constantly.
So, let me get this straight. You are enjoying the game now? And you only enjoying it because of HIS work in the last few months since nothing has changed after he's left. You wasn't enjoy the game back then, you are enjoying it now yet you only sign back up when you heard he's gone. It sounds to me like you are having personal issue with the man and not the game.
Are you daft? I signed back up because a) Can't stand WoW PvP and didn't want to buy a whole new game (since I already paid for this one and loved the RvR) b) offered me 10 days free (I'm frugal) and c) cut down the servers to around 10 or so creating healthy populations on the two servers that I have toons on. I don't have any personal issue with Mark Jacobs. Professionally he's a lying douche-bag who promoted a game that was unfinished with features that weren't available. I would have fired him in October after he delivered an unfinished game that my companies 4th quarter earnings were dependent on after two long delays. So let me get this straight- you're the kind of person who reads a sentance about a post that started 9 months back and makes a judgement on someone? Maybe you and Mark should hang out.
I knew the game was going to be a complete and utter failure when I saw an E3 video of the lead developer trying to explain the warhammer universe in terms of the elves being posh londoners and the orcs being football hooligans.
I knew the game was going to be a complete and utter failure when I saw an E3 video of the lead developer trying to explain the warhammer universe in terms of the elves being posh londoners and the orcs being football hooligans.
hehe if they had styed true to the IP and made Warhammer fantasy rollplay into an MMO, this game would have never failed.
It needed a mush more mature gameworld. Sadly the US have to mush censorship, and the fools at Mythic seam to have tought they where better of with a PG 13 teen game. Warhammer lore is not kiddy friendly and should never have been made like this. Sadly the game Industry today looks to lack alot of tallent. Iv looked at games for the last 10 years and said this will fail, and this will be a hit. And you know what I havent been wrong once. Now im not über smart or super skilled at making predictions im not a seer. But if even I can make out what is good and what is not, Video game developers realy need to wake up.
The Mythic game is not Warhammer and MarK Jacobs realy needed to take the fall for his poor judgment. But we still dont know how mush EA was involved in the game. So he might have had his hands tied behind his back and the suit at EA said make us A WoW clone, that is worst then the Original.
Hehe who knows... But we can count on The old rebublic to be the next fail from EA... haha Bioware and thier " we have invented the wheel STORY" has gotten me totaly spooked away from that game. The sadest thing though is that they are to stupid to understand that they have allready failed.
Well, I tried it for a couple more weeks and really liked the population improvements. I think this game has potential, but it still felt dull and underwhelming. The PvP was pretty good, but became monotonous after a while and I still couldn't see a lot of the content (like Public Quests) because no one was doing them. I finally canceled my subscription again when I realized I hadn't played for a week and didn't feel like it. I will probably give it a try in 6 months after they've had some more time to update content and do some more polish.
Well, I tried it for a couple more weeks and really liked the population improvements. I think this game has potential, but it still felt dull and underwhelming. The PvP was pretty good, but became monotonous after a while and I still couldn't see a lot of the content (like Public Quests) because no one was doing them. I finally canceled my subscription again when I realized I hadn't played for a week and didn't feel like it. I will probably give it a try in 6 months after they've had some more time to update content and do some more polish.
96 hours of AoC this week? Holy fuck man, please tell me atleast half that time is being afk.
Your issue is the Low population server. And I do agree with what's been said, to counteract the postlaunch surge of players, they really need to merge some of the lower population servers together. RvR is pretty nonexsistant on the lower pop servers. My reccommendation - switch to a higher pop server. I'm currently playing on Phoenix Throne (Core-RP) and both Scenarios AND Open World are really active. There are -at least- 2 keep seiges a night (in T3 at least), and Scenarios pop every 5-6 minutes.
Yesh, when I quit, those keeps were switching hourly.
Well, I tried it for a couple more weeks and really liked the population improvements. I think this game has potential, but it still felt dull and underwhelming. The PvP was pretty good, but became monotonous after a while and I still couldn't see a lot of the content (like Public Quests) because no one was doing them. I finally canceled my subscription again when I realized I hadn't played for a week and didn't feel like it. I will probably give it a try in 6 months after they've had some more time to update content and do some more polish.
96 hours of AoC this week? Holy fuck man, please tell me atleast half that time is being afk.
I was pretty suprised myself. I've been loving AOC like a hooker loves crack.
96 hours of AoC this week? Holy fuck man, please tell me atleast half that time is being afk.
I was pretty suprised myself. I've been loving AOC like a hooker loves crack.
Surprised?? That coming from a guy that's played another one of the most borish and mundane mmo's available, aside from the Asian grinders, WoW for 1100 hours?
You are either on crack, missing a chromosome or a combination of the 2.
Granted I didn't get to start playing till 2 days ago, I have 2 toons at level 11 and that was from about 4-5 hours of play time. People, if your having a hard time leveling, get into a guild and suck up to the higher level members. In case you didn't know, power leveling in this game is in full force. By that, I mean a level 1 and a level 40 can group, level 40 kills all the mobs and players needed to complete quests, PQ's, PvP objectives and so on. All you need to do is some scenarios when your leveling friend isn't around. Scenarios at level 8-11 amount to about 7500-10000 XP a pop and scenarios take how long? 10-15 minutes tops? Level 11 requires about 80-100k XP, so 10-15 scenarios and you just made 12. WAR is easy to level in if you know what your doing, which usually means joining a guild. EDIT: My bad, you can only group with a level 1 as long as your not 23. My original statement of 40 was incorrect.
The game is absolutely badass in tier 1 and 2. You hit the wall at tier 3
It's already nine months old, the game's failed and Jacobs has long since been canned!
at least its funny to read the first responses from the WAR fanbois who have been proven wrong
MMOs currently playing: - About to play: Lord of the Rings Online Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
A piece of forumhistory here Funny to read the praise this game got at the beginning and now to look back and see what went wrong and also how the fanboys didn't see past their own nose. It's the same old story though. Fanboys will defend their crap and the haters will attack it relentlessy. Can't take any of them seriously. They're both full of crap.
Anyway this game failed for me. Bought the box at launch, didn't even make it past the first free month and promptly stashed in away and forgot about it.
Nah, bullshit. It's not fanboys. It's just time. You need some time you know to understand whether this new MMORPG good or bad. It took me month to understand it was a crap. I hoped something would get changed to better but now it's obvious I mistook...
It took me less than a month to realise this game was crap. Maybe I see those signs quicker than other people. So nope, ain't bullshit. You can see that a mmo is crap the first 10-15 levels, depends on the level cap and the speed of leveling. If they suck, then the rest of the game will suck for you too. Mmo's as much the journey as the destination, for me atleast. The instant gratification crowd doesn't agree, but then I don't look at them as gamers, least of all mmo gamers.
A piece of forumhistory here Funny to read the praise this game got at the beginning and now to look back and see what went wrong and also how the fanboys didn't see past their own nose. It's the same old story though. Fanboys will defend their crap and the haters will attack it relentlessy. Can't take any of them seriously. They're both full of crap.
Anyway this game failed for me. Bought the box at launch, didn't even make it past the first free month and promptly stashed in away and forgot about it.
Nah, bullshit. It's not fanboys. It's just time. You need some time you know to understand whether this new MMORPG good or bad. It took me month to understand it was a crap. I hoped something would get changed to better but now it's obvious I mistook...
It took me less than a month to realise this game was crap. Maybe I see those signs quicker than other people. So nope, ain't bullshit. You can see that a mmo is crap the first 10 levels. If they suck, then the rest of the game will suck for you too. Mmo's as much the journey as the destination, for me atleast. The instant gratification crowd doesn't agree, but then I don't look at them as gamers, least of all mmo gamers.
It took me a few hours of trials for me to realise that most of these games are crap. Same combat system, same quests, same everything. I might as well play f2p games than pay $15 bucks on one of the big name games. They're all the same.
-------- "Chemistry: 'We do stuff in lab that would be a felony in your garage.'"
The most awesomest after school special T-shirt: Front: UNO Chemistry Club Back: /\OH --> Bad Decisions
Surprised?? That coming from a guy that's played another one of the most borish and mundane mmo's available, aside from the Asian grinders, WoW for 1100 hours?
You are either on crack, missing a chromosome or a combination of the 2.
I don't think he's missing any, but that you're just blessed with an extra one.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
Surprised?? That coming from a guy that's played another one of the most borish and mundane mmo's available, aside from the Asian grinders, WoW for 1100 hours?
You are either on crack, missing a chromosome or a combination of the 2.
I don't think he's missing any, but that you're just blessed with an extra one.
So, has anything changed in the game now that Mark is gone?
It's difficult to know what to attribute to Jacobs himself (other than his sometimes bizarre rants at the playerbase) or his successor but the recent patch was a mostly positive one for WAR. There was a big increase in performance, both server side and client side which has been most welcome. They removed Forts from the Tier 4 campaign, allowing more City sieges to occur, although people have reported that locking a city is bugged and there has been general dissatisfaction with the siege itself. They also set all new characters to start in Empire vs Chaos to make it easier to find others.
It seems to me that the game is heading in the right direction, but it's not there yet imo. There are population issues, the RvR zones could stand to be more interesting among other things.
Problem is, what WAR needs to work is a lot of people online around the day on any given server. For that to happen, it would need a lot of people giving it a chance, another chance.
Since there wont be thousands of people logging in and trying out the game again at the same time, all returns and newcomers will just be a trickle, realizing nobody is there, and leave again.
WAR is probably the one MMO that absolutely CANNOT cope with lack of population, but its the one that loses subs the fastest.
Not the best patches can change that, because they will not get large numbers of people playing suddenly.
Comments
Trying to get back to WAR right now. First time since I left it last november. Well, everything is just the same. This game is boring like... well, Bergman's films. Thoughtless one-button mashing combat in what had to be "a great PvP game" is just sad. Mark fully deserves his firing. MMORPG without a good combat gameplay will never become a real WoW competitor. Perhaps a bad combat isn't the only reason of the game's failure, but I (and I bet a lot of more) just don't care of others...
A piece of forumhistory here
Funny to read the praise this game got at the beginning and now to look back and see what went wrong and also how the fanboys didn't see past their own nose. It's the same old story though. Fanboys will defend their crap and the haters will attack it relentlessy. Can't take any of them seriously. They're both full of crap.
Anyway this game failed for me. Bought the box at launch, didn't even make it past the first free month and promptly stashed in away and forgot about it.
---
Grammar nazi's. This one is for you.
Nah, bullshit. It's not fanboys. It's just time. You need some time you know to understand whether this new MMORPG good or bad. It took me month to understand it was a crap. I hoped something would get changed to better but now it's obvious I mistook...
In all fairness, though- I DID sign back up the day that Mark Jacobs got fired and have been enjoying it for waht its worth. All it took was consolidating 85% of servers so that there would be people to RvR with. There's still not much going on in the PQs, but I have been in Scenarios constantly.
A witty saying proves nothing.
-Voltaire
So, let me get this straight. You are enjoying the game now? And you only enjoying it because of HIS work in the last few months since nothing has changed after he's left. You wasn't enjoy the game back then, you are enjoying it now yet you only sign back up when you heard he's gone. It sounds to me like you are having personal issue with the man and not the game.
So, let me get this straight. You are enjoying the game now? And you only enjoying it because of HIS work in the last few months since nothing has changed after he's left. You wasn't enjoy the game back then, you are enjoying it now yet you only sign back up when you heard he's gone. It sounds to me like you are having personal issue with the man and not the game.
Are you daft? I signed back up because a) Can't stand WoW PvP and didn't want to buy a whole new game (since I already paid for this one and loved the RvR) b) offered me 10 days free (I'm frugal) and c) cut down the servers to around 10 or so creating healthy populations on the two servers that I have toons on. I don't have any personal issue with Mark Jacobs. Professionally he's a lying douche-bag who promoted a game that was unfinished with features that weren't available. I would have fired him in October after he delivered an unfinished game that my companies 4th quarter earnings were dependent on after two long delays. So let me get this straight- you're the kind of person who reads a sentance about a post that started 9 months back and makes a judgement on someone? Maybe you and Mark should hang out.
A witty saying proves nothing.
-Voltaire
I knew the game was going to be a complete and utter failure when I saw an E3 video of the lead developer trying to explain the warhammer universe in terms of the elves being posh londoners and the orcs being football hooligans.
hehe if they had styed true to the IP and made Warhammer fantasy rollplay into an MMO, this game would have never failed.
It needed a mush more mature gameworld. Sadly the US have to mush censorship, and the fools at Mythic seam to have tought they where better of with a PG 13 teen game. Warhammer lore is not kiddy friendly and should never have been made like this. Sadly the game Industry today looks to lack alot of tallent. Iv looked at games for the last 10 years and said this will fail, and this will be a hit. And you know what I havent been wrong once. Now im not über smart or super skilled at making predictions im not a seer. But if even I can make out what is good and what is not, Video game developers realy need to wake up.
The Mythic game is not Warhammer and MarK Jacobs realy needed to take the fall for his poor judgment. But we still dont know how mush EA was involved in the game. So he might have had his hands tied behind his back and the suit at EA said make us A WoW clone, that is worst then the Original.
Hehe who knows... But we can count on The old rebublic to be the next fail from EA... haha Bioware and thier " we have invented the wheel STORY" has gotten me totaly spooked away from that game. The sadest thing though is that they are to stupid to understand that they have allready failed.
Well, I tried it for a couple more weeks and really liked the population improvements. I think this game has potential, but it still felt dull and underwhelming. The PvP was pretty good, but became monotonous after a while and I still couldn't see a lot of the content (like Public Quests) because no one was doing them. I finally canceled my subscription again when I realized I hadn't played for a week and didn't feel like it. I will probably give it a try in 6 months after they've had some more time to update content and do some more polish.
A witty saying proves nothing.
-Voltaire
96 hours of AoC this week? Holy fuck man, please tell me atleast half that time is being afk.
Yesh, when I quit, those keeps were switching hourly.
96 hours of AoC this week? Holy fuck man, please tell me atleast half that time is being afk.
I was pretty suprised myself. I've been loving AOC like a hooker loves crack.
A witty saying proves nothing.
-Voltaire
I was pretty suprised myself. I've been loving AOC like a hooker loves crack.
Surprised?? That coming from a guy that's played another one of the most borish and mundane mmo's available, aside from the Asian grinders, WoW for 1100 hours?
You are either on crack, missing a chromosome or a combination of the 2.
Lol, this thread is still open?
It's already nine months old, the game's failed and Jacobs has long since been canned!
"TO MICHAEL!"
The game is absolutely badass in tier 1 and 2. You hit the wall at tier 3
A witty saying proves nothing.
-Voltaire
Atleast the guy tried... but sorry to say; he failed!
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2110/jesusc.jpg
at least its funny to read the first responses from the WAR fanbois who have been proven wrong
MMOs currently playing: -
About to play: Lord of the Rings Online
Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
Nah, bullshit. It's not fanboys. It's just time. You need some time you know to understand whether this new MMORPG good or bad. It took me month to understand it was a crap. I hoped something would get changed to better but now it's obvious I mistook...
It took me less than a month to realise this game was crap. Maybe I see those signs quicker than other people. So nope, ain't bullshit. You can see that a mmo is crap the first 10-15 levels, depends on the level cap and the speed of leveling. If they suck, then the rest of the game will suck for you too. Mmo's as much the journey as the destination, for me atleast. The instant gratification crowd doesn't agree, but then I don't look at them as gamers, least of all mmo gamers.
---
Grammar nazi's. This one is for you.
Nah, bullshit. It's not fanboys. It's just time. You need some time you know to understand whether this new MMORPG good or bad. It took me month to understand it was a crap. I hoped something would get changed to better but now it's obvious I mistook...
It took me less than a month to realise this game was crap. Maybe I see those signs quicker than other people. So nope, ain't bullshit. You can see that a mmo is crap the first 10 levels. If they suck, then the rest of the game will suck for you too. Mmo's as much the journey as the destination, for me atleast. The instant gratification crowd doesn't agree, but then I don't look at them as gamers, least of all mmo gamers.
It took me a few hours of trials for me to realise that most of these games are crap. Same combat system, same quests, same everything. I might as well play f2p games than pay $15 bucks on one of the big name games. They're all the same.
--------
"Chemistry: 'We do stuff in lab that would be a felony in your garage.'"
The most awesomest after school special T-shirt:
Front: UNO Chemistry Club
Back: /\OH --> Bad Decisions
Heh, somewhat the same for me but I wanted to give the game a fair chance to convince me otherwise.
---
Grammar nazi's. This one is for you.
Surprised?? That coming from a guy that's played another one of the most borish and mundane mmo's available, aside from the Asian grinders, WoW for 1100 hours?
You are either on crack, missing a chromosome or a combination of the 2.
I don't think he's missing any, but that you're just blessed with an extra one.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
Surprised?? That coming from a guy that's played another one of the most borish and mundane mmo's available, aside from the Asian grinders, WoW for 1100 hours?
You are either on crack, missing a chromosome or a combination of the 2.
I don't think he's missing any, but that you're just blessed with an extra one.
Well, thanks (i think)
A witty saying proves nothing.
-Voltaire
So, has anything changed in the game now that Mark is gone?
A witty saying proves nothing.
-Voltaire
It's difficult to know what to attribute to Jacobs himself (other than his sometimes bizarre rants at the playerbase) or his successor but the recent patch was a mostly positive one for WAR. There was a big increase in performance, both server side and client side which has been most welcome. They removed Forts from the Tier 4 campaign, allowing more City sieges to occur, although people have reported that locking a city is bugged and there has been general dissatisfaction with the siege itself. They also set all new characters to start in Empire vs Chaos to make it easier to find others.
It seems to me that the game is heading in the right direction, but it's not there yet imo. There are population issues, the RvR zones could stand to be more interesting among other things.
MUNDO!!
Problem is, what WAR needs to work is a lot of people online around the day on any given server. For that to happen, it would need a lot of people giving it a chance, another chance.
Since there wont be thousands of people logging in and trying out the game again at the same time, all returns and newcomers will just be a trickle, realizing nobody is there, and leave again.
WAR is probably the one MMO that absolutely CANNOT cope with lack of population, but its the one that loses subs the fastest.
Not the best patches can change that, because they will not get large numbers of people playing suddenly.