Well a motherboard has to be compatible with the processor and ram your using. So it doesn't do much for your gaming, but sometimes it's nesecary to upgrade your motherbaord to be able to upgrade your processor. Well i'm off to Newegg to find some stuff in your price range that will serve you well.
o ok then thnx for the help really appreciated i would try and look but i wouldnt understand much of some certain parts anyway. but just gimme a quick description on the parts u found me and then the price ^^ plz
well the total is $333 so i guess it'll be alrite for me to buy, and the delivery prob add it to like $350 or something, but all i need to know now is how am i going to put all these parts in cuz i dont really know how .......and does those part only upgrade gaming, abilities or does it also improve on like the other loading speed of other programs for example microsoft word, or others etc etc etc.
[can i just take the parts to like PC World and get them to install the parts for me?]
Well, the shipping on newegg is great so maybe alittle less that $350.00. Adding the parts is actually pretty simple. PC Gamer recently put out the "PC Building Bible" which shows pistures and descriptions of how to do most everything. Pretty easy to follow. But if you know your going to struggle I belive PC World would do it for you. I could be wrong though. You'd have to contact them. This upgrade will make a ton of stuff better. Your computer will simply be faster.
And do you know what motherbaord, what processor, and how much RAM you have in your PC now? This could be a big help.
erm how do i check wat processor, motherboard, and RAM i have at present? do i just click start, control panel, perforamance and maintenance, then basic information bout my pc? cuz if it is heres the informartion it gives me.
celeron(R) CPU 1.80Ghz
1.79ghz 224 MB RAM .............thats around the basic information it gives me, but i have a packard bell im not sure will that effect anything though.
Ok the processor advice I gave you should give you a big performance boost. I had a celeron at one point and they really are a killer when it comes to gaming. They just aren't that good. An ugrade to 512mb's of RAM will show you another big performance boost. You are going to have to get the motherbaord to make these upgrades. But with only getting the 512mb's of RAM that will bring you costs down to around $280.00 or so. Like I said, not sure if PC World will do it for you but it's worth a try. With these upgrades you'll be pleasently suprised with the jump in performance you get. Well, I'm calling it a night for now. If you have any more questions I'll gladly help you again. I'm sure some of these guys could probably give even better advice, but I do my best. Good Luck!
Originally posted by Zaoldyeck some ppl on my mmorpg say my pc is too slow, but im not a pc wiz so can i have ur opinions plz.......so i can either get some new equipments, or just save up or something for a new pc. Celeron(R) CPU 1.80Ghz 1.79ghz,224MB of RAM thats wat i got from my pc but im not sure is that full spec of my pc
Zaoldyeck, before you got out and spend $350 bucks on a whole new motherboard and all. I might be able to give you a suggestion on a different route to take. I don't know if you know what type of motherboard you have or not, but I know that a 1.8ghz Intel Celeron is a socket 478 processor. Depending on the make and model of your motherboard, you will probably be able to upgrade you CPU to a faster socket478 Intel processor. In addition, you might be able to upgrade and/or add more ram to your system based on what type of motherboard you have. There are several different speeds of DDR SDRAM memory, for example PC2100, PC2700, PC3000, PC3200, ect. DDR SDRAM also comes in different size sticks of 128mb, 256mb, 512mb, 1gb, ect. Upgrading the speed and/or quanity of your ram can improve your PC's performance. You might own a specific make pc such a DELL, Gateway, Compaq, HP and so on. If you know the make and model number of your pc, i can then find it want can be upgraded on your PC. I know that is a lot to throw at you, but I've got one more. What kind of video card do you have or do you know?
erm rabid im not sure wat video graphics card i got is there a way to find out? and i'll gladly answer ur question, and im not too sure bout ur route, cuz saigons seems alot easier, but if u can clarify/simplify ur route i'll consider it cuz it does seem really hard to understand all those terms and concept all of a sudden.
Originally posted by Zaoldyeck erm how do i check wat processor, motherboard, and RAM i have at present? do i just click start, control panel, perforamance and maintenance, then basic information bout my pc? cuz if it is heres the informartion it gives me. celeron(R) CPU 1.80Ghz 1.79ghz 224 MB RAM .............thats around the basic information it gives me, but i have a packard bell im not sure will that effect anything though.
You can download CPU-Z version 1.26 and install it. It is free, and this CPUID(called both CPU-Z and CPUID) program gives you very useful info about your pc including your CPU, motherboard and ram. You can also download PCWizard 2004. It is also free and can give you even more detailed information. The information that will helps us help you are the following:
CPU: Intel Celeron 1.8ghz socket478, check.
RAM: What speed: PC2100, PC2700, PC3000, PC3200 ect??? 224mb doesn't sound right for the amount. It should be in 128mb increments, 128, 256, 512, 1024(1gb), ect.
Motherboard: Make and model number.
Video Card: Make and model and/or chipset.
edit: Sorry Zaoldyeck, I just re-read the info you gave. You say you have a Packard Bell. Do you know what model you have??? If you do, that is all I need to be able to help you out. Even better if you know the serial number. Either one or both should be on the pc somewhere.
i just found Windows XP edition, NEC COMPUTER im not sure is that it, but i found that info on the same piece of sticker with the product key and everything on it. so im not too sure where else it could be.
but if thats not it i'll download the CPUID. and see wat i have on my CPU RAM etc.
WindowsXP edition refers to the operating systme. You say it says "NEC COMPUTER". There should be a model name and/or number on the pc case somewhere. Look on the front, back, sides and even underneath(please be careful doing this). If not there, do you have a manual??? I'm thinking the model you have is one of the older NEC/Packard Bell iMedia or Legacy series PCs.CPU-Z will tell you what model your pc is, but it might tell you what motherboard you have. If it doesn't list it then that means it is a NEC/Packard Bell generic board for that paticular model you have. You might also look under Control Panel under System Properties and look under the "general" or "computer name" tabs to see if it is listed there which it sometime is if the manufacture list it when installing Windows. Hope that helps.
That is the S/N I needed. Your pc is an iMedia 5043 or should be based on that serial number. Let me know if it looks much different. Are you from the UK or Europe btw. That is a paticular model they sold in the UK and European markets.
Your motherboard is a Columbia GX (GA-8SIML) Ver 1.0 . You can upgrade your ram to 1gb, two 512mb sticks, as your motherboard has two memory slots and will support up to that much on those slots. EDIT: A friend of mine who has worked with these particular boards in the NEC/Packard Bell machines says there is a problem with them accepting 1gb of memory. He recommends a maximum of 768mb of RAM on these boards. The fastest memory your board supports is PC2100 DDR266 RAM. You don't have much room to upgrade the cpu if at all. It would not be worth it too as it would be hard and overly expensive to find a cpu that would fit that board, and if you went that route, it would be better to just purchase a whole new motherboard, cpu and ram.
You probably are using onboard video as that paticular model did not ship with a video card to my knowledge. Buying and installing a video card would greatly improver your gaming performance, and it is quite easy. Your board has both pci slots and it also has an agp 4x/2x slot so you could buy an agp keyed video card which I could help you choose. You wouldn't have to or want to spend that much $$$ on this paticular PC.
Depending on what games you play, you could upgrade your memory to at least 512mb and by an inexpensive video card and see immediate performance improvement when playing games. Both these steps would be the cheapest way. The other option is to build basically a whole new pc with a new motherboard, cpu and ram. It sounds like you don't have much experience with building one. It isn't as hard as it sounds, but you would need to educate your self on what the different parts of the pc are and a very basic idea how they work with each other. Then reading some pc building guides. Even better if you have a friend that can help you the first time, then they could walk you through the process as you put it together. I built my first pc by just opening up the case one I had and then reading as much information as I could find.
BTW, on cpu-z, if you click on the 5th tab over, the SPD tab, and then click on a slot # until cpu-z brings up some info on your memory. What I would like to know is the Module Size and MAX Bandwidth and whether or not the Correction and Registered boxes are marked with anything other than "no" or "none"
edit: LOL, you got your post posted quicker than mine. Yes that info helped. Good job so far. I figured you had 256mb of DDR SDRAM. Anyways, open PC Wizard up. Then click on the third icon over on the top row, it is an icon of a monitor with i think a paintbrush or something under Hardware. This will bring up some info and the heading VIDEO. The third bit of info down should say Video Card. What is listed for your video card if there is anything???
well irealised on the side of the case is said imedia, but u say i should get a entirely new PC but wouldnt that cost alot more than just buying those 3 parts saigon suggested me to?
and i havnt downloaded PCWIZARD, i only have the CPUID so any detials u want from that program i can get you. bout my PC
and i live in UK why u ask? but if i bought the new motherboard, RAM, and processor do u think it is possible that i get like PC World to put the PC together for me? or should i try and risk putting it together myself?
cuz if its like slotting something into 1 space, then im alrite i guess but if its connecting loads mini wire, and placing them in a correct place and getting every little spec right to the dot then i doubt i can do it right.
but wat do u think of the paarts saigon suggested to me bout?
Processor: AMD Athlon xp 2700+ $104.00
Motherboard: Abit AN7 with nforce 2 chipset $94.00
RAM: 1024mb or 1gb is preferred: Mushkin 1gb $135.00 but 512mb should do you fine: Mushkin 512mb $68.65
Processor: AMD Athlon xp 2700+ $104.00 Motherboard: Abit AN7 with nforce 2 chipset $94.00 RAM: 1024mb or 1gb is preferred: Mushkin 1gb $135.00but 512mb should do you fine: Mushkin 512mb $68.65
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I noticed that processor is being sold as an OEM product which means you won't be getting AMD's 3-year warranty or some other extras like full additional software, full tech support, etc. It may be worth protecting your investment by paying a little more for the retail version of that processor. Also make sure the processor comes with a heatsink/fan for the CPU if your present one isn't sufficient (which is likely).
Also remember that your MB supports just 2 DIMM Un-buffered DDR 400 slots so you aren't going to be able to put more than a gig of RAM on it. Currently a gig is plenty for just about anything but I'm unsure on how long that will last.
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The reason I wanted to know if you were in the UK or Europe is because newegg and PC World are both US companies. Newegg doesn't ship out of the US and if PC World does, it would cost you more that its worth once you pay any import taxes and duties on the parts not to mention over seas shipping. There are UK dealers you can order parts from, and there are also some UK dealers that would probably install the said parts for you. I have some online acquaintences from England so if you need to know the name of a reputible dealer I can give you the names and links of some.
The parts saigon suggested are good suggestions, and yes, you can use your current iMedia PC case, hard drive, power supply with the new board, cpu and ram. What is involved if you get the parts saigon suggested would be to remove and unhook the wires and cables to your current motherboard and remove it. To do this might require you removing other parts to be able to get it out. I'm not sure as I've never worked on a NEC/Packard Bell iMedia PC. Then you would have to install the new motherboard, put on the new cpu with the hs/f, pop in your new ram, and then hook up all the wires and cables back correctly. Sometimes with a new motherboard, most of the time in fact, you have to reinstall Windows. That is the basic short version anyway. I would definitely encourage you to read the "How to build a PC Guide" at PC World and there are other ones you can read too before you decide to order parts and tackle this project. The new parts would definetly give you a boost in performance and even in games.
If I may ask, what uses do you use the pc for, and what type of games are you playing or wanting to play?
rabid i use this pc for, college work, so microsoft word, chatting, buying and selling stuff, music, videos, and the online games i play is PRISTONTALE, TACTICAL OPERATION.
well rabid, VAU said those points bout the parts, so im not sure wat hes trying to say can u clear the things up a bit?
and yes plz i'll like to know some UK dealers that will also sell me those parts and fit it in for me plz.
Rabid made a good point. You would, if you decided to put it in yourself, have to unhook all the cables from your motherboard, and rehook them to your new mobo. This can be a daunting task for a new PC builder. I'm glad Rabid knew a bit more about your current computer. It looks like you'll be able to upgrade your processor, ram, and video card without getting a new motherbaord.
first i was told to get a new CPU, processor, RAM,
and now new graphics card, and and all of the above? would that really matter.....cuz everyone is giving me so many suggestions and im not sure which 1 to take really, but i think i wanna stick with the idea saigon gave me get those 3 parts, and try to find someone to fit it in for me and or do it myself.
cuz it seems the most basic and easy. but u lot are the expert and can correct me if im wrong, but suggest me any ideas?
Well, Rabid found out what motherbord you have. With that motherbaord you are able to do upgrades whithout getting a new mobo. I will take a look at newegg again and make another list for you. The fact that you don;t have to get a new mobo will make the upgrade considerably easier.
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Well a motherboard has to be compatible with the processor and ram your using. So it doesn't do much for your gaming, but sometimes it's nesecary to upgrade your motherbaord to be able to upgrade your processor. Well i'm off to Newegg to find some stuff in your price range that will serve you well.
Ok heres what I found in your range.
Processor: AMD Athlon xp 2700+ $104.00
Motherboard: Abit AN7 with nforce 2 chipset $94.00
RAM: 1024mb or 1gb is preferred: Mushkin 1gb $135.00
but 512mb should do you fine: Mushkin 512mb 68.65
Hope this helps. If anyone else has any other suggestions fell free to correct me.
well the total is $333 so i guess it'll be alrite for me to buy, and the delivery prob add it to like $350 or something, but all i need to know now is how am i going to put all these parts in cuz i dont really know how
.......and does those part only upgrade gaming, abilities or does it also improve on like the other loading speed of other programs for example microsoft word, or others etc etc etc.
[can i just take the parts to like PC World and get them to install the parts for me?]
thnx saigon. ^^
Well, the shipping on newegg is great so maybe alittle less that $350.00. Adding the parts is actually pretty simple. PC Gamer recently put out the "PC Building Bible" which shows pistures and descriptions of how to do most everything. Pretty easy to follow. But if you know your going to struggle I belive PC World would do it for you. I could be wrong though. You'd have to contact them. This upgrade will make a ton of stuff better. Your computer will simply be faster.
And do you know what motherbaord, what processor, and how much RAM you have in your PC now? This could be a big help.
erm how do i check wat processor, motherboard, and RAM i have at present? do i just click start, control panel, perforamance and maintenance, then basic information bout my pc? cuz if it is heres the informartion it gives me.
celeron(R) CPU 1.80Ghz
1.79ghz 224 MB RAM .............thats around the basic information it gives me, but i have a packard bell im not sure will that effect anything though.
Ok the processor advice I gave you should give you a big performance boost. I had a celeron at one point and they really are a killer when it comes to gaming. They just aren't that good. An ugrade to 512mb's of RAM will show you another big performance boost. You are going to have to get the motherbaord to make these upgrades. But with only getting the 512mb's of RAM that will bring you costs down to around $280.00 or so. Like I said, not sure if PC World will do it for you but it's worth a try. With these upgrades you'll be pleasently suprised with the jump in performance you get. Well, I'm calling it a night for now. If you have any more questions I'll gladly help you again. I'm sure some of these guys could probably give even better advice, but I do my best. Good Luck!
You can download CPU-Z version 1.26 and install it. It is free, and this CPUID(called both CPU-Z and CPUID) program gives you very useful info about your pc including your CPU, motherboard and ram. You can also download PCWizard 2004. It is also free and can give you even more detailed information. The information that will helps us help you are the following:
CPU: Intel Celeron 1.8ghz socket478, check.
RAM: What speed: PC2100, PC2700, PC3000, PC3200 ect??? 224mb doesn't sound right for the amount. It should be in 128mb increments, 128, 256, 512, 1024(1gb), ect.
Motherboard: Make and model number.
Video Card: Make and model and/or chipset.
edit: Sorry Zaoldyeck, I just re-read the info you gave. You say you have a Packard Bell. Do you know what model you have??? If you do, that is all I need to be able to help you out. Even better if you know the serial number. Either one or both should be on the pc somewhere.
i just found Windows XP edition, NEC COMPUTER im not sure is that it, but i found that info on the same piece of sticker with the product key and everything on it. so im not too sure where else it could be.
but if thats not it i'll download the CPUID. and see wat i have on my CPU RAM etc.
well i kinda found the computers full name not sure is this it......sn023551320041.
i downloaded CPUID, and looked on some information but not too sure where should i look to find the information that u want?
heres some of the information i found not sure is it wat u want.
processor- intel celeron [spec intel(R)Celeron(R) CPU 1.80Ghz
motherboard- [manufacturer] NEC COMPUTERS INTERNATIONAL
graphics interface- AGP version 2.0
memroy type- DDR-SDRAM SIZE 256 MB
hope it helps rabid
That is the S/N I needed. Your pc is an iMedia 5043 or should be based on that serial number. Let me know if it looks much different. Are you from the UK or Europe btw. That is a paticular model they sold in the UK and European markets.
Your motherboard is a Columbia GX (GA-8SIML) Ver 1.0 . You can upgrade your ram to 1gb, two 512mb sticks, as your motherboard has two memory slots and will support up to that much on those slots. EDIT: A friend of mine who has worked with these particular boards in the NEC/Packard Bell machines says there is a problem with them accepting 1gb of memory. He recommends a maximum of 768mb of RAM on these boards. The fastest memory your board supports is PC2100 DDR266 RAM. You don't have much room to upgrade the cpu if at all. It would not be worth it too as it would be hard and overly expensive to find a cpu that would fit that board, and if you went that route, it would be better to just purchase a whole new motherboard, cpu and ram.
You probably are using onboard video as that paticular model did not ship with a video card to my knowledge. Buying and installing a video card would greatly improver your gaming performance, and it is quite easy. Your board has both pci slots and it also has an agp 4x/2x slot so you could buy an agp keyed video card which I could help you choose. You wouldn't have to or want to spend that much $$$ on this paticular PC.
Depending on what games you play, you could upgrade your memory to at least 512mb and by an inexpensive video card and see immediate performance improvement when playing games. Both these steps would be the cheapest way. The other option is to build basically a whole new pc with a new motherboard, cpu and ram. It sounds like you don't have much experience with building one. It isn't as hard as it sounds, but you would need to educate your self on what the different parts of the pc are and a very basic idea how they work with each other. Then reading some pc building guides. Even better if you have a friend that can help you the first time, then they could walk you through the process as you put it together. I built my first pc by just opening up the case one I had and then reading as much information as I could find.
BTW, on cpu-z, if you click on the 5th tab over, the SPD tab, and then click on a slot # until cpu-z brings up some info on your memory. What I would like to know is the Module Size and MAX Bandwidth and whether or not the Correction and Registered boxes are marked with anything other than "no" or "none"
edit: LOL, you got your post posted quicker than mine. Yes that info helped. Good job so far. I figured you had 256mb of DDR SDRAM. Anyways, open PC Wizard up. Then click on the third icon over on the top row, it is an icon of a monitor with i think a paintbrush or something under Hardware. This will bring up some info and the heading VIDEO. The third bit of info down should say Video Card. What is listed for your video card if there is anything???
well irealised on the side of the case is said imedia, but u say i should get a entirely new PC but wouldnt that cost alot more than just buying those 3 parts saigon suggested me to?
and i havnt downloaded PCWIZARD, i only have the CPUID so any detials u want from that program i can get you. bout my PC
and i live in UK why u ask? but if i bought the new motherboard, RAM, and processor do u think it is possible that i get like PC World to put the PC together for me? or should i try and risk putting it together myself?
cuz if its like slotting something into 1 space, then im alrite i guess but if its connecting loads mini wire, and placing them in a correct place and getting every little spec right to the dot then i doubt i can do it right.
but wat do u think of the paarts saigon suggested to me bout?
Processor: AMD Athlon xp 2700+ $104.00
Motherboard: Abit AN7 with nforce 2 chipset $94.00
RAM: 1024mb or 1gb is preferred: Mushkin 1gb $135.00
but 512mb should do you fine: Mushkin 512mb $68.65
[quote]Originally posted by Zaoldyeck
Processor: AMD Athlon xp 2700+ $104.00
Motherboard: Abit AN7 with nforce 2 chipset $94.00
RAM: 1024mb or 1gb is preferred: Mushkin 1gb $135.00but 512mb should do you fine: Mushkin 512mb $68.65
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I noticed that processor is being sold as an OEM product which means you won't be getting AMD's 3-year warranty or some other extras like full additional software, full tech support, etc. It may be worth protecting your investment by paying a little more for the retail version of that processor. Also make sure the processor comes with a heatsink/fan for the CPU if your present one isn't sufficient (which is likely).
Also remember that your MB supports just 2 DIMM Un-buffered DDR 400 slots so you aren't going to be able to put more than a gig of RAM on it. Currently a gig is plenty for just about anything but I'm unsure on how long that will last.
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The reason I wanted to know if you were in the UK or Europe is because newegg and PC World are both US companies. Newegg doesn't ship out of the US and if PC World does, it would cost you more that its worth once you pay any import taxes and duties on the parts not to mention over seas shipping. There are UK dealers you can order parts from, and there are also some UK dealers that would probably install the said parts for you. I have some online acquaintences from England so if you need to know the name of a reputible dealer I can give you the names and links of some.
The parts saigon suggested are good suggestions, and yes, you can use your current iMedia PC case, hard drive, power supply with the new board, cpu and ram. What is involved if you get the parts saigon suggested would be to remove and unhook the wires and cables to your current motherboard and remove it. To do this might require you removing other parts to be able to get it out. I'm not sure as I've never worked on a NEC/Packard Bell iMedia PC. Then you would have to install the new motherboard, put on the new cpu with the hs/f, pop in your new ram, and then hook up all the wires and cables back correctly. Sometimes with a new motherboard, most of the time in fact, you have to reinstall Windows. That is the basic short version anyway. I would definitely encourage you to read the "How to build a PC Guide" at PC World and there are other ones you can read too before you decide to order parts and tackle this project. The new parts would definetly give you a boost in performance and even in games.
If I may ask, what uses do you use the pc for, and what type of games are you playing or wanting to play?
erm i dont understand wat ur trying to say, are you trying to say that......
1.i shouldnt get the parts bcuz they wont work on my PC or,
2.i should be careful for when im buying these parts to get the most out of it?
3.try and find better deals? [if so plz offer me other parts to buy plz]
or if u explain ur route in a simpler way plz.
rabid i use this pc for, college work, so microsoft word, chatting, buying and selling stuff, music, videos, and the online games i play is PRISTONTALE, TACTICAL OPERATION.
well rabid, VAU said those points bout the parts, so im not sure wat hes trying to say can u clear the things up a bit?
and yes plz i'll like to know some UK dealers that will also sell me those parts and fit it in for me plz.
cuz of course i wanna upgrade my PC ASAP. thnx
Rabid made a good point. You would, if you decided to put it in yourself, have to unhook all the cables from your motherboard, and rehook them to your new mobo. This can be a daunting task for a new PC builder. I'm glad Rabid knew a bit more about your current computer. It looks like you'll be able to upgrade your processor, ram, and video card without getting a new motherbaord.
wat do u mean saigon, i thought i just needed to buy a new mobo, RAM, and a new processor, and fit them in?
wats this about a new graphic/video cards?
no escaping the vga upgrade, sorry.
I recommend waiting for nforce 4 and buy a nforce4mobo , athlon 64 cpu, dual 512 low latency ram and a gf6600gt
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erm ok.............now im very confused lol
first i was told to get a new CPU, processor, RAM,
and now new graphics card, and and all of the above? would that really matter.....cuz everyone is giving me so many suggestions and im not sure which 1 to take really, but i think i wanna stick with the idea saigon gave me get those 3 parts, and try to find someone to fit it in for me and or do it myself.
cuz it seems the most basic and easy. but u lot are the expert and can correct me if im wrong, but suggest me any ideas?
Well, Rabid found out what motherbord you have. With that motherbaord you are able to do upgrades whithout getting a new mobo. I will take a look at newegg again and make another list for you. The fact that you don;t have to get a new mobo will make the upgrade considerably easier.