200 users played by day that means theyr nothing more then fanbots trying to hype the game or they never go offline and just do a afk till something happends like all the retards on eq2 this means nothing
almost 100% growth in playtime according to XFire in a single month.
They released a NA server, they got a decent number of NA players who use xfire.
However, their handling of NA players on EU has lowered that curve significantly. Theres about 1000 of us who are stuck on EU who are rather pissed off AV isnt letting us play.
almost 100% growth in playtime according to XFire in a single month.
When you start quoting percentages you are just cooking the books. Anyone with a background in basic statistical analysis knows that.
If I went from one player to 2 players I would have a 100% increase. BFD that is still a lose - lose situation.
How about some actual subscription numbers? Actual paying players not the number in guilds that never get dropped, etc.
Actual verifiable hard numbers. With all you slavering sycophants on here I am sure that one of you lap lickers can get the actual numbers from your man lover Tasos and the "logs to back it up" LOL.
almost 100% growth in playtime according to XFire in a single month.
They released a NA server, they got a decent number of NA players who use xfire.
However, their handling of NA players on EU has lowered that curve significantly. Theres about 1000 of us who are stuck on EU who are rather pissed off AV isnt letting us play.
NA is a brand new server. To allow transfers from the start would have been rediculous for any one new playing DFO. You will get to transfer after 90-days, or you could have cancelled and used the monthly fee you saved to start in NA on day 1; choice was yours. You are not "stuck" on EU, just delayed in moving until the NA server has a chance to catch up to you for when and if you arrive.
Of course there are a lot of players that got extremely high skills in EU by doing nothing but using their no drop starter weapon and shooting in the air. Now that's fixed, I'm sure we have our share of unhappy gamers that can't immediately use their unearned skills on NA yet.
-CC
"Lately it occurs to me, what a long, strange trip it's been". -Hunter
almost 100% growth in playtime according to XFire in a single month.
They released a NA server, they got a decent number of NA players who use xfire.
However, their handling of NA players on EU has lowered that curve significantly. Theres about 1000 of us who are stuck on EU who are rather pissed off AV isnt letting us play.
NA is a brand new server. To allow transfers from the start would have been rediculous for any one new playing DFO. You will get to transfer after 90-days, or you could have cancelled and used the monthly fee you saved to start in NA on day 1; choice was yours. You are not "stuck" on EU, just delayed in moving until the NA server has a chance to catch up to you for when and if you arrive.
Of course there are a lot of players that got extremely high skills in EU by doing nothing but using their no drop starter weapon and shooting in the air. Now that's fixed, I'm sure we have our share of unhappy gamers that can't immediately use their unearned skills on NA yet.
-CC
Gotta love your posts.
Paragraph 1 = You could have paid twice for the game and played on NA 1 from the start.
Paragraph 2 = Everyone that doesn't want to pay twice has ill gotten skills anyways.
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When asked for clarification, they refused to respond. We were told by mods in IRC that we would be taken care of. That last sentence though is very damning. "if they would like to move to the us server when it launches" Not three months later...
I dont want my character moved, I was perfectly happy starting over from scratch. In fact pretty much everyone I played with was under that understanding, and perfectly fine with it. My issue, is having to wait 90 days to play our version, and then on top of that being charged a fee to do so.
Its double charging your customers, and bad business...and its costing them thousands of subscribers.
I'm not a darkfall player, nor do I support the game.
However. When WoW was first released in the US, I had to pay 70 Euroes to play it. This is because I had to import a US copy of the game and Irish customs tacked on like 20-30 euro in some kind of wierd import tax onto the box. A few months later the game was released in Europe. There were not only no character transfers, there wasn't even the possiblity of one down the line in the near or far future. I had to chose to either play on the US servers or buy a new copy.
In the end, due to time zones, IRL friends and other factors, I bought a new copy to play on the EU servers.
I'm not saying the Darkfall devs are golden, but on this issue, it seems unfair that they are being singled out for something that SEEMS to be an industry standard. You can complain that this should change, throughout the industry, but don't blame darkfall like it's some new kind of scam they just came up with.
I'm not a darkfall player, nor do I support the game.
However. When WoW was first released in the US, I had to pay 70 Euroes to play it. This is because I had to import a US copy of the game and Irish customs tacked on like 20-30 euro in some kind of wierd import tax onto the box. A few months later the game was released in Europe. There were not only no character transfers, there wasn't even the possiblity of one down the line in the near or far future. I had to chose to either play on the US servers or buy a new copy. In the end, due to time zones, IRL friends and other factors, I bought a new copy to play on the EU servers. I'm not saying the Darkfall devs are golden, but on this issue, it seems unfair that they are being singled out for something that SEEMS to be an industry standard. You can complain that this should change, throughout the industry, but don't blame darkfall like it's some new kind of scam they just came up with.
But at no point in time did Blizzard ever say you would be allowed to transfer or taken care of...thats the glaring difference. If we had been told up front no transfers would be allowed, that would be a completely different thing. We were specifically told we would be granted allowances.
they are allowing transfers, just not on day one? I can understand the arguement that perhaps they shouldn't charge for these. But I do believe that Blizzard charge for their transfers.
All this said, I agree that DF's PR team sucks big time.
they are allowing transfers, just not on day one? I can understand the arguement that perhaps they shouldn't charge for these. But I do believe that Blizzard charge for their transfers. All this said, I agree that DF's PR team sucks big time.
Most of us dont want transfers, we simply want a empty new NA account.
almost 100% growth in playtime according to XFire in a single month.
Seeing how DF used to be #50 just this march(now its only #133), its ... what, a 38% drop? but wait, you aren't counting the decreases, only increases. So yeah, in that case DF always increases its numbers.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
javac, let's just say your interpretative skills are a bit lacking. 100% increase of 1 is 2. Not exactly luminary numbers.
But, hey, you got what you wanted: a nice thread title in the page, showing the unwary passer-by that the game might be flourishing, after all. Nice job.
since Xfire is clearly a reputable source of how good a game is doing.... please consider playing these mmo's before trying darfall...... afterall, you want to try them in order of how well they are doing....
Users playing per day 193 Minutes played per day 100,068 100,068 minutes/day divided by 193 players= 518.48 minutes/day per user or 8.64 hours/day per user So the average player plays over 8 hours a day? Seems a bit unlikely. Looks like a handful of players are trying to artificially boost DF's popularity.
almost 100% growth in playtime according to XFire in a single month.
They released a NA server, they got a decent number of NA players who use xfire.
However, their handling of NA players on EU has lowered that curve significantly. Theres about 1000 of us who are stuck on EU who are rather pissed off AV isnt letting us play.
NA is a brand new server. To allow transfers from the start would have been rediculous for any one new playing DFO. You will get to transfer after 90-days, or you could have cancelled and used the monthly fee you saved to start in NA on day 1; choice was yours. You are not "stuck" on EU, just delayed in moving until the NA server has a chance to catch up to you for when and if you arrive.
Of course there are a lot of players that got extremely high skills in EU by doing nothing but using their no drop starter weapon and shooting in the air. Now that's fixed, I'm sure we have our share of unhappy gamers that can't immediately use their unearned skills on NA yet.
-CC
Are you crazy!? How could we have used our free month for NA on day 1? There is no real choice but wait 90 days or buy the game AGAIN. They were straight up lied to.
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200 users played by day that means theyr nothing more then fanbots trying to hype the game or they never go offline and just do a afk till something happends like all the retards on eq2 this means nothing
Silkroad is in the top10... that's what happens when bots start using Xfire.
(my objective here is not to discredit Darkfall, but to discredit Xfire, that can be manipulated in SO many ways)
They released a NA server, they got a decent number of NA players who use xfire.
However, their handling of NA players on EU has lowered that curve significantly. Theres about 1000 of us who are stuck on EU who are rather pissed off AV isnt letting us play.
When you start quoting percentages you are just cooking the books. Anyone with a background in basic statistical analysis knows that.
If I went from one player to 2 players I would have a 100% increase. BFD that is still a lose - lose situation.
How about some actual subscription numbers? Actual paying players not the number in guilds that never get dropped, etc.
Actual verifiable hard numbers. With all you slavering sycophants on here I am sure that one of you lap lickers can get the actual numbers from your man lover Tasos and the "logs to back it up" LOL.
They released a NA server, they got a decent number of NA players who use xfire.
However, their handling of NA players on EU has lowered that curve significantly. Theres about 1000 of us who are stuck on EU who are rather pissed off AV isnt letting us play.
NA is a brand new server. To allow transfers from the start would have been rediculous for any one new playing DFO. You will get to transfer after 90-days, or you could have cancelled and used the monthly fee you saved to start in NA on day 1; choice was yours. You are not "stuck" on EU, just delayed in moving until the NA server has a chance to catch up to you for when and if you arrive.
Of course there are a lot of players that got extremely high skills in EU by doing nothing but using their no drop starter weapon and shooting in the air. Now that's fixed, I'm sure we have our share of unhappy gamers that can't immediately use their unearned skills on NA yet.
-CC
"Lately it occurs to me,
what a long, strange trip it's been". -Hunter
They released a NA server, they got a decent number of NA players who use xfire.
However, their handling of NA players on EU has lowered that curve significantly. Theres about 1000 of us who are stuck on EU who are rather pissed off AV isnt letting us play.
NA is a brand new server. To allow transfers from the start would have been rediculous for any one new playing DFO. You will get to transfer after 90-days, or you could have cancelled and used the monthly fee you saved to start in NA on day 1; choice was yours. You are not "stuck" on EU, just delayed in moving until the NA server has a chance to catch up to you for when and if you arrive.
Of course there are a lot of players that got extremely high skills in EU by doing nothing but using their no drop starter weapon and shooting in the air. Now that's fixed, I'm sure we have our share of unhappy gamers that can't immediately use their unearned skills on NA yet.
-CC
Gotta love your posts.
Paragraph 1 = You could have paid twice for the game and played on NA 1 from the start.
Paragraph 2 = Everyone that doesn't want to pay twice has ill gotten skills anyways.
This fan to english translation brought to you by Spishak!
Actually china I am stuck. I had canceled my EU account waiting on NA release. We were told by AV prior to launch that
"We’re allowing players from N. America to participate in the European release due to this fact. Of course we’ll make some allowances for these players if they would like to move to the US server when it launches."
When asked for clarification, they refused to respond. We were told by mods in IRC that we would be taken care of. That last sentence though is very damning. "if they would like to move to the us server when it launches" Not three months later...
I dont want my character moved, I was perfectly happy starting over from scratch. In fact pretty much everyone I played with was under that understanding, and perfectly fine with it. My issue, is having to wait 90 days to play our version, and then on top of that being charged a fee to do so.
Its double charging your customers, and bad business...and its costing them thousands of subscribers.
193 players lol
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
I'm not a darkfall player, nor do I support the game.
However. When WoW was first released in the US, I had to pay 70 Euroes to play it. This is because I had to import a US copy of the game and Irish customs tacked on like 20-30 euro in some kind of wierd import tax onto the box. A few months later the game was released in Europe. There were not only no character transfers, there wasn't even the possiblity of one down the line in the near or far future. I had to chose to either play on the US servers or buy a new copy.
In the end, due to time zones, IRL friends and other factors, I bought a new copy to play on the EU servers.
I'm not saying the Darkfall devs are golden, but on this issue, it seems unfair that they are being singled out for something that SEEMS to be an industry standard. You can complain that this should change, throughout the industry, but don't blame darkfall like it's some new kind of scam they just came up with.
It's funny. My xfire doesn't even recognize darkfall. Maybe I need to have it search for games again.
EDIT:
I had to manually tell it where to look for darkfall.
But at no point in time did Blizzard ever say you would be allowed to transfer or taken care of...thats the glaring difference. If we had been told up front no transfers would be allowed, that would be a completely different thing. We were specifically told we would be granted allowances.
Hmm i think i may have to try this game out.
they are allowing transfers, just not on day one? I can understand the arguement that perhaps they shouldn't charge for these. But I do believe that Blizzard charge for their transfers.
All this said, I agree that DF's PR team sucks big time.
Most of us dont want transfers, we simply want a empty new NA account.
I started a thread here about this, so as not to further derail this thread.
My apologies to the op
Subs seem steady at best, your statement is pure unfiltered bullshit.
Game reviews to the drunken masses of the world
Seeing how DF used to be #50 just this march(now its only #133), its ... what, a 38% drop? but wait, you aren't counting the decreases, only increases. So yeah, in that case DF always increases its numbers.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Subs seem steady at best, your statement is pure unfiltered bullshit.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Javac...
#132 ranked
193 players
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
javac, let's just say your interpretative skills are a bit lacking. 100% increase of 1 is 2. Not exactly luminary numbers.
But, hey, you got what you wanted: a nice thread title in the page, showing the unwary passer-by that the game might be flourishing, after all. Nice job.
i dont consider xfire manipulated xfire count how much time a PC have a game runing there is no way to check if a person play or not
BestSigEver :P
since Xfire is clearly a reputable source of how good a game is doing.... please consider playing these mmo's before trying darfall...... afterall, you want to try them in order of how well they are doing....
World of Warcraft 583956
#1 Blizzard Entertainment Blizzard Entertainment
Guild Wars 32288
#8 ArenaNet NCsoft
Silkroad Online 28382
#9 Joymax Co.,Ltd. Joymax Co.,Ltd.
MapleStory 20679
#13 Wizet Nexon
Eve Online 20551
#14 CCP CCP
CABAL Online
Cabal Online: The Revolution of Action 17803
#17 ESTsoft OGPlanet
Game-Masters
Metin 2 16696
#19 YMIR Entertainment Gameforge
The Lord of the Rings Online 14232
#23 Turbine Inc. Turbine Inc.
Runes of Magic 13449
#25 Runewalker Entertainment Frogster Interactive Pictures AG
Perfect World 10011
#32 Beijing Perfect World Cubinet/Game-Master/Perfect World Entertainment
Flyff: Fly for Fun 9684
#33 Gala-Net Aeonsoft
Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning 9471
#34 EA Mythic EA Games
Atlantica Online 9287
#35 Ndoors Ndoors
Shaiya 9177
#37 Aeria Games and Entertainment Aeria Games and Entertainment
Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures 7722
#43 Funcom Eidos Interactive
Mabinogi 6287
#48 Nexon Nexon
Dofus 6264
#49 Ankama Games Ankama Games
Fiesta 5869
#51 Outspark Outspark
Jade Dynasty 5585
#54 Perfect World Entertainment Perfect World Entertainment
RuneScape 5567
#55 Jagex Jagex
Archlord 5478
#56 NHN Corporation Codemasters
Second Life 5218
#58 Linden Lab Linden Lab
Grand Chase 4571
#63 Kog Ntreev
RF Online 4305
#67 CCR Codemasters
Rappelz Epic IV 4083
#68 Gala-Net Nflavor
BattleForge 3996
#70 EA Phenomic EA Games
Last Chaos USA 3816
#71 T-entertainment Aeria Games and Entertainment
Lineage II 3477
#81 NCsoft NCsoft
Twelve Sky 3367
#82 gigassoft Aeria Games and Entertainment
Tibia 3227
#86 CipSoft CipSoft
City of Heroes 3103
#89 Cryptic Studios NCsoft
Star Wars Galaxies: An Empire Divided
Star Wars Galaxies: The Jump to Lightspeed 3067
#90 Sony Online Entertainment LucasArts
Sword of the New World: Granado Espada 3018
#92 IMC Games K2 Network
AirRivals 2978
#95 Gameforge Gameforge
EverQuest II 2788
#99 Sony Online Entertainment Sony Online Entertainment
Navy Field 2704
#102 SD EnterNet SD Enternet
Final Fantasy XI 2702
#103 Square Enix Sony Online Entertainment
Twelve Sky 2 2591
#104 Aeria Games and Entertainment Aeria Games and Entertainment
Conquer Online 2404
#108 TQ Digital Entertainment TQ Digital Entertainment
Knight Online 2255
#110 Mgame K2 Network
Rohan: Blood Feud 2014
#118 YNK Interactive YNK Interactive
Requiem: Bloodymare 1902
#121 GRAVITY Co. GRAVITY Co.
S4 League 1684
#130 Pentavision Neowiz
Rappelz Epic VI Prologue: Navislamia 1673
#131 Gala-Net gPotato
Users playing per day 193
Minutes played per day 100,068
100,068 minutes/day divided by 193 players= 518.48 minutes/day per user or 8.64 hours/day per user
So the average player plays over 8 hours a day? Seems a bit unlikely.
Looks like a handful of players are trying to artificially boost DF's popularity.
Excellent detective work, and most likely true.
Kudos for a good deduction!
Never relay on xfire numbers....bottom line. Playtime never means more subs.
Played : WOW, LOTRO, COH/COV, EQ2, SWG, and WAR.
Playing EVE Online and AOC.
Wtg for SW:TOR and WOD
They released a NA server, they got a decent number of NA players who use xfire.
However, their handling of NA players on EU has lowered that curve significantly. Theres about 1000 of us who are stuck on EU who are rather pissed off AV isnt letting us play.
NA is a brand new server. To allow transfers from the start would have been rediculous for any one new playing DFO. You will get to transfer after 90-days, or you could have cancelled and used the monthly fee you saved to start in NA on day 1; choice was yours. You are not "stuck" on EU, just delayed in moving until the NA server has a chance to catch up to you for when and if you arrive.
Of course there are a lot of players that got extremely high skills in EU by doing nothing but using their no drop starter weapon and shooting in the air. Now that's fixed, I'm sure we have our share of unhappy gamers that can't immediately use their unearned skills on NA yet.
-CC
Are you crazy!? How could we have used our free month for NA on day 1? There is no real choice but wait 90 days or buy the game AGAIN. They were straight up lied to.