I hate to be a jerk, but wtf are you talking about OP. There are quests that take you through with no grinding needed. The quest's are indicated on the map, and you can click the 'locate' button on any mob which dynamically updates if the one you are tracking is dead. This is the easiest questing/leveling in an MMO that I have seen and it is the one part of this game that pisses me off the most and you are bitching about it.
More crap about the grind and no quests. The game has quests. You may not like what they are and you may have to group to do them (at level 18 or so) but the game has quests. I have some issues about Aion, which are stated here on the boards but if this is all youve got youve got nothing.
That'st true. I think something is amiss. You never need to grind at the lower lvls that's for sure. You can get from 1-10 solely on quests.
So what's the deal op?
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It was my first time playing Aion lastnight, it is a nice looking game and the over all enviroment is nice. But as i lvled(grinded) to level 7, I found myself searching for quests. Usually you can obtain 5 to 10 quests in the starter area, i think i only got 3, and i spent some time running around trying to finish these quests, they have you running along ways, and this is the starter area! As the game progressed i found myself finishing quests higher lvl then I was, so i was forced to grind some just to gain a lvl. As a noob to Aion, the progression of a new player wasnt the best experience for myself, they could have made the newbie area a bit more smooth with alot of quests to get you on the way, but i will continue to test this game out, overall as the levels are coming, the game is starting to open up a bit, just hate the grinding in the lower levels, kinda scary what the high lvls have to offer.
The game so far has been nothing but a completely linear set of quests leading me down a single road. Even if I wanted to deviate from the quest lines, there ia no place else for me to go.
Point of fact, the core campaign quest is NOT optional. You cannot advance out of the newbie area or choose your final class without completing it. Once you do get out of the newbie area, you are handed a new primary quest arc and MUST complete it to advance to the next stage of the game.
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I had quests til I where like 16-17, so I dont know what your doing. You prolly just suck lal. Didnt grind for a second almoste.
Just curious how many hours it took you to reach level 16ish. Because I would bet it took more than an hour and thus you still spent a lot of time grinding. The grind just have a different veneer slapped on top of it.
By your definition anything that takes place after logging into any MMO is a grind. All MMO's involve either killing mobs or questing to level. All MMO's actually involve playing the game to advance.
Maybe you should find a new hobby.
Nevermind. Real life is a grind by your definition as well. I mean you do the same things every day. Wake up, eat, move around, go to sleep at night. Just the same small set of actions carried out in a slightly differant order every day.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do. Benjamin Franklin
this was what put me off the game ...if you cant fill out the start area with quests then what is it like later on? most games its the other way around, you have a strong early game and not much to do at end game but this just doesnt have much to do. Yes it doesnt matter if you get a quest to kill x number or you just grind x number...but why they heck are grind quests the only things they can come up with, even runescape could do better than that. And bloodaxe if you dont like discussion then dont use forums....
this was what put me off the game ...if you cant fill out the start area with quests then what is it like later on? most games its the other way around, you have a strong early game and not much to do at end game but this just doesnt have much to do. Yes it doesnt matter if you get a quest to kill x number or you just grind x number...but why they heck are grind quests the only things they can come up with, even runescape could do better than that. And bloodaxe if you dont like discussion then dont use forums....
Yeah, you should probably quit the game if you couldn't find enough quests to get to lvl 10 in Aion. People that mentally challenged shouldn't be allowed near a computer.
k so here is my opinion about aion /y i love it chanllenging quest enviroment it don't bother me looking or the quest remember guy's this is a MMO/RPG game you quest and learn about the game more and more as you go i you cant handle the challenge go back to playing mario bro's. by the way i'm a lvl 14 templar in Veizel server love the whole idea of this game big difference from wow that i played or 3yrs now it's just a comic book game lol.
this was what put me off the game ...if you cant fill out the start area with quests then what is it like later on? most games its the other way around, you have a strong early game and not much to do at end game but this just doesnt have much to do. Yes it doesnt matter if you get a quest to kill x number or you just grind x number...but why they heck are grind quests the only things they can come up with, even runescape could do better than that. And bloodaxe if you dont like discussion then dont use forums....
What does one say. The quests take you to lvl 9. Do the final story quest and you are then 10.
I've gotten 3 characters to lvl 10 and all by doing the quests.
So seriously, what' the deal.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
i have lvl like 5 characters from 1 to 10 and did not have to "grind" a lvl to open up more quest, took me about 3 hours the first few times and now i can run the 1 to 10 lvl in about 2 doing only quest, so the OP did not find the quest that are easy to find they all follow a path and you must have missed some on the way i really don't know how but you must have if you had to "grind" mobs to get a lvl to get new quest.
You shouldn't be even coming close to running out of quests, until you hit level 16 or so. For the first 10 levels, you should actually have more quests than you need to get to 10 (a quest you get at lvl 9 even levels you to 10 regardless of how much exp you have at 9, so you if you want to you can skip the rest and get to 10 immediately to leave the starter area). However, it needs to be said that the questing content is nowhere near that of WoW/EQ2 (even when they releas ed).
QFT you're missing something somewhere, at 9 you should have extra quests left over. you NEVER have to just grind mobs from 1-10. most of my guys i didn't do all the quests in the newbie areas and just went to altguard.
Yeah, you should probably quit the game if you couldn't find enough quests to get to lvl 10 in Aion. People that mentally challenged shouldn't be allowed near a computer.
I hope this isn't a sampling of the community that Aion is going to attract.
You guys know it's easier/faster to grind by killing to about lvl 7ish and then do a few quests to get to 9 (Ascension and Abyss Gate chains) and if you get REALLY bored, do the otehr quests around the graveyard/pirate ship (gathering ones in the odella plantation) to around 11-12 (the ones that would still give xp =P) and then race through altgard.
I know I know, you don't want to do it since it's GRINDING, but as I'm reading,,, your precious quests are not holding up to snuff...
So if you need to survive the "grind" then you can still opt to side track yourself with some quests. Otherwise, if you burn through all your quests and are forced to grind... it's gonna hurt in the long run.
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Almost forgot... that would be GRINDING which apparently is EVIL and to be avoided at all costs!
You shouldn't be even coming close to running out of quests, until you hit level 16 or so. For the first 10 levels, you should actually have more quests than you need to get to 10 (a quest you get at lvl 9 even levels you to 10 regardless of how much exp you have at 9, so you if you want to you can skip the rest and get to 10 immediately to leave the starter area). However, it needs to be said that the questing content is nowhere near that of WoW/EQ2 (even when they releas ed).
In comparison to real estate vs content, Aion is > WoW with their questing. Just WoW had a ton more areas to do overall.
You shouldn't be even coming close to running out of quests, until you hit level 16 or so. For the first 10 levels, you should actually have more quests than you need to get to 10 (a quest you get at lvl 9 even levels you to 10 regardless of how much exp you have at 9, so you if you want to you can skip the rest and get to 10 immediately to leave the starter area). However, it needs to be said that the questing content is nowhere near that of WoW/EQ2 (even when they releas ed).
In comparison to real estate vs content, Aion is > WoW with their questing. Just WoW had a ton more areas to do overall.
i'd play wow over aion any day
i had much more fun with wow's easiness than aions asian grind
You shouldn't be even coming close to running out of quests, until you hit level 16 or so. For the first 10 levels, you should actually have more quests than you need to get to 10 (a quest you get at lvl 9 even levels you to 10 regardless of how much exp you have at 9, so you if you want to you can skip the rest and get to 10 immediately to leave the starter area). However, it needs to be said that the questing content is nowhere near that of WoW/EQ2 (even when they releas ed).
In comparison to real estate vs content, Aion is > WoW with their questing. Just WoW had a ton more areas to do overall.
i'd play wow over aion any day
i had much more fun with wow's easiness than aions asian grind
Then go play WoW already. I've seen nothing but negative posts from you on this forum. We get it, Aion is not the game for you.
It happens, not every game will be perfect for everyone. You don't need to spread your negativity and lies to others who are looking for facts about a game thats soon to release. Just go.
rr2real, I'm not comparing Aion to WoW in any sort of good vs bad context, so while you want to quote me and then reply to it by saying you'd rather go play wow... just do it. You do not need to tell me. I really do not mind, I like WoW as well. I'm not here to brag on one and/or trash the other.
So while I do not mind you quoting me, please don't use it out of context so you can interject your own comments. Just interject the comments on your own. At the very least it will seem like you formed your opinion and not just had a kneejerk reaction to seeing the word "WoW" somewhere.
You shouldn't be even coming close to running out of quests, until you hit level 16 or so. For the first 10 levels, you should actually have more quests than you need to get to 10 (a quest you get at lvl 9 even levels you to 10 regardless of how much exp you have at 9, so you if you want to you can skip the rest and get to 10 immediately to leave the starter area). However, it needs to be said that the questing content is nowhere near that of WoW/EQ2 (even when they releas ed).
In comparison to real estate vs content, Aion is > WoW with their questing. Just WoW had a ton more areas to do overall.
i'd play wow over aion any day
i had much more fun with wow's easiness than aions asian grind
Then go play WoW already. I've seen nothing but negative posts from you on this forum. We get it, Aion is not the game for you.
It happens, not every game will be perfect for everyone. You don't need to spread your negativity and lies to others who are looking for facts about a game thats soon to release. Just go.
i'm not lying about the game i've been playing it in the beta
You shouldn't be even coming close to running out of quests, until you hit level 16 or so. For the first 10 levels, you should actually have more quests than you need to get to 10 (a quest you get at lvl 9 even levels you to 10 regardless of how much exp you have at 9, so you if you want to you can skip the rest and get to 10 immediately to leave the starter area). However, it needs to be said that the questing content is nowhere near that of WoW/EQ2 (even when they releas ed).
In comparison to real estate vs content, Aion is > WoW with their questing. Just WoW had a ton more areas to do overall.
i'd play wow over aion any day
i had much more fun with wow's easiness than aions asian grind
Then go play WoW already. I've seen nothing but negative posts from you on this forum. We get it, Aion is not the game for you.
It happens, not every game will be perfect for everyone. You don't need to spread your negativity and lies to others who are looking for facts about a game thats soon to release. Just go.
i'm not lying about the game i've been playing it in the beta
A high percentage on this forum are playing in beta and an even higher percentage have seen you spewing bile all day and night. Im sure we will just have to all put you on ignore until you move on to the next game to hate.
I'm a bit puzzled on the post that claim it is another asian grinder. I started a new character today and I'm already level 10. My wife's son started yesterday and he is already level 18. Unless it really slows down by a lot this game is on par with what I remember Wow on release. I get the feeling from most forums I read that the new generation of gamers want everything easy, fast, in the least amount of time needed. The problem with that is I find it very boring and most online games these days seem to follow that pattern.
I'm a bit puzzled on the post that claim it is another asian grinder. I started a new character today and I'm already level 10. My wife's son started yesterday and he is already level 18. Unless it really slows down by a lot this game is on par with what I remember Wow on release. I get the feeling from most forums I read that the new generation of gamers want everything easy, fast, in the least amount of time needed. The problem with that is I find it very boring and most online games these days seem to follow that pattern.
This guy knows the deal ^
MMO's are for long term, any game 1 year or so old is just a base/foundation of what it will eventually be.
Well, since there are a few people talking out their arse, here is my journal for one of my low level toons.
I have no idea what "I will take WoW easiness of Aions asian grind" is suppose to mean. The games content are virtually identical at this stage (low level), kill 10 o this collect 10 of that. No rocket science there so it should suit that poster just fine lol.
OP I don't think you are looking around enough.
Here are my active quest, keep in mind I finished up a lot in the area so far including that scarecrow stuff at the farm area. So actually I don't have as many quest as I did earlier.
Also, I haven't been to a lot of the areas yet. I've only went to the citadel and to Talbas so far.
Even taking into consideration my poor math skills, it would seem I have 12 active quest at level 12. Seeing as I am about halfway through my level I doubt I will finish all of them before I hit level 13...
I'm a bit puzzled on the post that claim it is another asian grinder. I started a new character today and I'm already level 10. My wife's son started yesterday and he is already level 18. Unless it really slows down by a lot this game is on par with what I remember Wow on release. I get the feeling from most forums I read that the new generation of gamers want everything easy, fast, in the least amount of time needed. The problem with that is I find it very boring and most online games these days seem to follow that pattern.
I think you missed the point of the post, the issue isnt it being easy or not but a lack of early lvl quests. In addition I found none of the quests to be particularly immersive, even the main quest line that I followed. The only interesting bit was a navigated flight through the Abyss. I find it odd that the initial quests are like this but I guess having played a variety of othre games over the past few years the initial quests have been amazing in comparison, (lotro for example) but i dont see the point in contining to discuss this, in fact using this forum at all because it seems any opinion anyone says comes with people insulting my mental capacity, being abusing, changing what is said and basically not understanding the principal of discuss.
The real question is...why is doing 10 quests to kill 100 mobs less of a grind than simply kiling 100 mobs in the first place? If you get lots of xps for doing a quest turn in that simply means they require more xps per level in the first place. I compare quest grinding to a store raising the price of an item by 50% then having a grand "sale" and giving you a huge 40% discount. You are still paying more than a normal price...just because they advertise a huge discount does not mean you are gettting one. How many people who complain about quests actually read the quests and follow the storyline? I know a handfull of people do but the vast majority dont really care about the text of the quest. Would it not be simpler to just decrease the leveling curve and get rid of the xp reward for all quests?
Wat? 1000x50% = 1500x40% = 600, 1500-600 = ???
I know math is hard but yesh.
Anyways, there was not a grind in the beta weekends I did. But I was not over 20 so. I really don't see a grind till post 30 anyways. Plus the PvP grind. But the PvP grind is not a bad grind, since it is PvP and all. Just I think the quests will slowly start to wander away post 30.
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I hate to be a jerk, but wtf are you talking about OP. There are quests that take you through with no grinding needed. The quest's are indicated on the map, and you can click the 'locate' button on any mob which dynamically updates if the one you are tracking is dead. This is the easiest questing/leveling in an MMO that I have seen and it is the one part of this game that pisses me off the most and you are bitching about it.
How dumb are you?
That'st true. I think something is amiss. You never need to grind at the lower lvls that's for sure. You can get from 1-10 solely on quests.
So what's the deal op?
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
The game so far has been nothing but a completely linear set of quests leading me down a single road. Even if I wanted to deviate from the quest lines, there ia no place else for me to go.
Point of fact, the core campaign quest is NOT optional. You cannot advance out of the newbie area or choose your final class without completing it. Once you do get out of the newbie area, you are handed a new primary quest arc and MUST complete it to advance to the next stage of the game.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
Benjamin Franklin
Just curious how many hours it took you to reach level 16ish. Because I would bet it took more than an hour and thus you still spent a lot of time grinding. The grind just have a different veneer slapped on top of it.
By your definition anything that takes place after logging into any MMO is a grind. All MMO's involve either killing mobs or questing to level. All MMO's actually involve playing the game to advance.
Maybe you should find a new hobby.
Nevermind. Real life is a grind by your definition as well. I mean you do the same things every day. Wake up, eat, move around, go to sleep at night. Just the same small set of actions carried out in a slightly differant order every day.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
Benjamin Franklin
this was what put me off the game ...if you cant fill out the start area with quests then what is it like later on? most games its the other way around, you have a strong early game and not much to do at end game but this just doesnt have much to do. Yes it doesnt matter if you get a quest to kill x number or you just grind x number...but why they heck are grind quests the only things they can come up with, even runescape could do better than that. And bloodaxe if you dont like discussion then dont use forums....
Yeah, you should probably quit the game if you couldn't find enough quests to get to lvl 10 in Aion. People that mentally challenged shouldn't be allowed near a computer.
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k so here is my opinion about aion /y i love it chanllenging quest enviroment it don't bother me looking or the quest remember guy's this is a MMO/RPG game you quest and learn about the game more and more as you go i you cant handle the challenge go back to playing mario bro's. by the way i'm a lvl 14 templar in Veizel server love the whole idea of this game big difference from wow that i played or 3yrs now it's just a comic book game lol.
What does one say. The quests take you to lvl 9. Do the final story quest and you are then 10.
I've gotten 3 characters to lvl 10 and all by doing the quests.
So seriously, what' the deal.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
i have lvl like 5 characters from 1 to 10 and did not have to "grind" a lvl to open up more quest, took me about 3 hours the first few times and now i can run the 1 to 10 lvl in about 2 doing only quest, so the OP did not find the quest that are easy to find they all follow a path and you must have missed some on the way i really don't know how but you must have if you had to "grind" mobs to get a lvl to get new quest.
QFT you're missing something somewhere, at 9 you should have extra quests left over. you NEVER have to just grind mobs from 1-10. most of my guys i didn't do all the quests in the newbie areas and just went to altguard.
Yeah, you should probably quit the game if you couldn't find enough quests to get to lvl 10 in Aion. People that mentally challenged shouldn't be allowed near a computer.
I hope this isn't a sampling of the community that Aion is going to attract.
You guys know it's easier/faster to grind by killing to about lvl 7ish and then do a few quests to get to 9 (Ascension and Abyss Gate chains) and if you get REALLY bored, do the otehr quests around the graveyard/pirate ship (gathering ones in the odella plantation) to around 11-12 (the ones that would still give xp =P) and then race through altgard.
I know I know, you don't want to do it since it's GRINDING, but as I'm reading,,, your precious quests are not holding up to snuff...
So if you need to survive the "grind" then you can still opt to side track yourself with some quests. Otherwise, if you burn through all your quests and are forced to grind... it's gonna hurt in the long run.
EDIT-
Almost forgot... that would be GRINDING which apparently is EVIL and to be avoided at all costs!
/shrug
In comparison to real estate vs content, Aion is > WoW with their questing. Just WoW had a ton more areas to do overall.
In comparison to real estate vs content, Aion is > WoW with their questing. Just WoW had a ton more areas to do overall.
i'd play wow over aion any day
i had much more fun with wow's easiness than aions asian grind
In comparison to real estate vs content, Aion is > WoW with their questing. Just WoW had a ton more areas to do overall.
i'd play wow over aion any day
i had much more fun with wow's easiness than aions asian grind
Then go play WoW already. I've seen nothing but negative posts from you on this forum. We get it, Aion is not the game for you.
It happens, not every game will be perfect for everyone. You don't need to spread your negativity and lies to others who are looking for facts about a game thats soon to release. Just go.
rr2real, I'm not comparing Aion to WoW in any sort of good vs bad context, so while you want to quote me and then reply to it by saying you'd rather go play wow... just do it. You do not need to tell me. I really do not mind, I like WoW as well. I'm not here to brag on one and/or trash the other.
So while I do not mind you quoting me, please don't use it out of context so you can interject your own comments. Just interject the comments on your own. At the very least it will seem like you formed your opinion and not just had a kneejerk reaction to seeing the word "WoW" somewhere.
In comparison to real estate vs content, Aion is > WoW with their questing. Just WoW had a ton more areas to do overall.
i'd play wow over aion any day
i had much more fun with wow's easiness than aions asian grind
Then go play WoW already. I've seen nothing but negative posts from you on this forum. We get it, Aion is not the game for you.
It happens, not every game will be perfect for everyone. You don't need to spread your negativity and lies to others who are looking for facts about a game thats soon to release. Just go.
i'm not lying about the game i've been playing it in the beta
In comparison to real estate vs content, Aion is > WoW with their questing. Just WoW had a ton more areas to do overall.
i'd play wow over aion any day
i had much more fun with wow's easiness than aions asian grind
Then go play WoW already. I've seen nothing but negative posts from you on this forum. We get it, Aion is not the game for you.
It happens, not every game will be perfect for everyone. You don't need to spread your negativity and lies to others who are looking for facts about a game thats soon to release. Just go.
i'm not lying about the game i've been playing it in the beta
A high percentage on this forum are playing in beta and an even higher percentage have seen you spewing bile all day and night. Im sure we will just have to all put you on ignore until you move on to the next game to hate.
I'm a bit puzzled on the post that claim it is another asian grinder. I started a new character today and I'm already level 10. My wife's son started yesterday and he is already level 18. Unless it really slows down by a lot this game is on par with what I remember Wow on release. I get the feeling from most forums I read that the new generation of gamers want everything easy, fast, in the least amount of time needed. The problem with that is I find it very boring and most online games these days seem to follow that pattern.
This guy knows the deal ^
MMO's are for long term, any game 1 year or so old is just a base/foundation of what it will eventually be.
Riiiiight.
Then how are you so off on everything you've said about AION?
Some of the crap I've seen you spouting is so far from the truth that a blind person could see it.
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Riiiiight.
Then how are you so off on everything you've said about AION?
Some of the crap I've seen you spouting is so far from the truth that a blind person could see it.
i dunno what game you're playing lol i'm telling the truth
Well, since there are a few people talking out their arse, here is my journal for one of my low level toons.
I have no idea what "I will take WoW easiness of Aions asian grind" is suppose to mean. The games content are virtually identical at this stage (low level), kill 10 o this collect 10 of that. No rocket science there so it should suit that poster just fine lol.
OP I don't think you are looking around enough.
Here are my active quest, keep in mind I finished up a lot in the area so far including that scarecrow stuff at the farm area. So actually I don't have as many quest as I did earlier.
Also, I haven't been to a lot of the areas yet. I've only went to the citadel and to Talbas so far.
Even taking into consideration my poor math skills, it would seem I have 12 active quest at level 12. Seeing as I am about halfway through my level I doubt I will finish all of them before I hit level 13...
I think you missed the point of the post, the issue isnt it being easy or not but a lack of early lvl quests. In addition I found none of the quests to be particularly immersive, even the main quest line that I followed. The only interesting bit was a navigated flight through the Abyss. I find it odd that the initial quests are like this but I guess having played a variety of othre games over the past few years the initial quests have been amazing in comparison, (lotro for example) but i dont see the point in contining to discuss this, in fact using this forum at all because it seems any opinion anyone says comes with people insulting my mental capacity, being abusing, changing what is said and basically not understanding the principal of discuss.
Wat? 1000x50% = 1500x40% = 600, 1500-600 = ???
I know math is hard but yesh.
Anyways, there was not a grind in the beta weekends I did. But I was not over 20 so. I really don't see a grind till post 30 anyways. Plus the PvP grind. But the PvP grind is not a bad grind, since it is PvP and all. Just I think the quests will slowly start to wander away post 30.