I'm concerned, Blizzard have started some strange stuff recently. It's top priority is money-orientated, it's released two patches recently on WC3- one which allowed somebody to hack into someone's computer via some of the code, and the second which fixed this but has now botched up a lot of custom maps. And then to top it all off there are teeny rumours going around that battle.net might be charged for in the future. It might be silly to listen to silly rumours like this but if they did I could well be annoyed.
The topic title is harsh. I've got a lot of enjoyment from their games for many years, and some of the things they've done in WoW that I might disagree with are so minor it's a non-factor for me.
if blizzard took a S*** put it in a box and sold it, it would be platinum 11 times... I dont care what peoples complains are about blizzard... I hate WoW but I will always trust them to release amazing products that provide entertainment and happiness to millions upon millions.
"Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean"
Blizzard makes quality games, there is no dispute on that. Now what has Blizzard actually done to WoW that has made you think they lied or betrayed you? WoW is a mmorpg and those games evolve and change over time. After 5 years WoW has definitely had changes, some good, some bad depending on what you wanted out of the game. However, none of that has made Blizzard a bad company. As I stated before, Blizzard makes fun games and I'll continue to buy their games that interest me (like Diablo 3 and Starcraf 2). My only real disappointment from them is the canceling of Ghost.
I agree on the fact that Blizard has produced quality games. Though can you honestly say its worth paying that amount for?
I for one think WoW was and still is being "hyped", and I think its getting credit for things that any other developer would do the same should the money suffice.
You cannot honestly say WoW is ALL THAT if you take a look at other developers, and see what they get done from a very low budget...
Sure would, even though I personally am not keen on WoW (after an issue where I was forced off the US servers I played on with my guild mates (I'm a Brit) when Blizzard refused to accept UK credit cards in payment on the US Servers - basically at the time we were getting the game a lot cheaper due to the £ - $ exchange rate and they wanted us to pay more and play on UK servers - added to the fact that I had just made a digital purchase of an update pack - which they refused to transfer across to the UK servers they were now trying to force me to play on - wanting me to pay AGAIN for a product I had already purchased.)
But, personal issues aside, Blizzard DO have a track record for making quality games which a LOT of people enjoy, as you can see from its dominance in the MMO market atm, as well as with such hits as Diablo, Starcraft etc.
Why should people NOT trust them?
At least Blizzard have NEVER made adjustments to WoW on the scale of the game destroying SWG: NGE experience
Originally posted by arthen999 There seams to be a lot people that are not happy with the way Blizzard have handled Warcraft . Its still an undeniably popular mmo even if its subsciptions seam to have peaked ( which goes beyond the situation in china ) and is now in a slow but inevitable decline . The question now really is whether you would trust Blizzard to handle their new mmo without falling into the same pitfalls ??
I have not read all replies as this thread got into the "same old, same old" by page 3!
Firstly, define "a lot of people?" Define "slow but inevitable decline?" These are all just regurgitated troll quotes, over and over again without any actual FACT or reason to back them up. Exactly how many posts can one person make with the same angle and points (so called)???
As for the initial post, trust has nothing to do with the game in any way what so ever. If you like the game you will pay and play, if you don't, you won't! If they make the game unplayable in my eyes at some point will it effect how i see any future projects they produce, well it may make me a little more cautious, but at the end of the day if it turns out to be a good game i will probably play it. Take it as mistrust, caution or just plain cynicism that has built up due to the state of the MMO market over the past few years, your choice.
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
The REAL funny thing about this thread is that for some reason the OP and a lot of you seem to think that the groans and moans of people on this site as well as other MMO or WoW related forums somehow constitute "a lot" or "many" people....
We forum junkies are maybe 1% of 1% of the overall MMO community.
We'd be very lucky if we were 5% of the WoW community.
The game is doing great and obviously millions of people still enjoy it and don't feel the need to complain on forums.
WoW will still be going in 5 more years just like EQ and UO have been going for 10 years and will still be going 5 years from now too.
Blizzard will NOT make WoW 2, they'll make a completely different experience. What they WILL likely do is continue to change WoW so that it is more accessable and requires less and less of a time commitment. Why? So people can continue their WoW subs without feeling they are wasting money because they don't play much because they are also sub'd to Blizzard's new MMO.
If blizzard is smart they will incorporate their new mmo into wow somehow. Not through gameplay, but by means of subscription tie in or package. Giving people access to both games would just cement their subscriber base that much more. The gentle nudge to push players to battle.net accounts may be a hint of this.
As they say in business 'it is much easier to retain old customers than it is to attract new ones'. Maybe the market will continue to grow at the pace it currently is and blizzards new game is aimed at a new untapped market, but it would be smart if they replaced themselves with something new before one of their competitors did.
Something will eventually come along that steals a sizable portion of their subscribers. Who knows when, but it will happen.
Well, I'm here reading these posts, thinking. Yeah, no, mm, maybe, yes, sure, Blah, blah, blah. It's obvious lot's of people have lots of opinions about WOW. I myself am here right now, because I'm so damn tired after all these years of playing it.
Let's face it, not matter what class you play, you're only aiming to get to the level cap so you can gear up. Gearing up just got silly with patch 3.2. I'm raiding my arse off to get the best gear and along come Joe Schmo, never done anything worth a light, and there he is in gear almost as good as mine and all he's done is 5 man instances for a few weeks. WTF?
Back in vanilla days when you saw a priest with a full set of Molten Core gear on, it was like looking at God, lol. But now it's like yeah yeah yeah, whatever.
I really do wish Blizzard would bring out a new MMORPG, I'd jump on it like crazy, I just can't keep up the interest with WOW anymore, I think I'm finally worn out with it. Latest smack in the eye is the rumors that they are yet again to reuse more old instances. Come on Blizzard WTF are you playing at? Oh and only 5 more levels. If It was free I may be interested, but nothing much is free that you do. It's usually stuff you left out that you patch into the game.
I realise the new expansion rumors are just that, rumors. But rumors in WOW usually are feelers seeing what kinda reaction is out there.
Some pet hates that are annoying me in WOW.
1.People with great gear for doing nothing more than easy 5 man instances.
2.People who won't log off and spend there time jumping up and down over and over and over and over and over. LOG OFF YOU SAD B......
3.Not being able to get into instances for ages and ages.
4.Abusive behavior from people in game, you give it back and they report you.
5.Gold sellers spamming trade all day and everyday.
6.Dumbing down of the game, for example, glowing quest items and hints all over the map.
7.The need to make all classes seem equal with no classes actually really that much better than any other. DK's are heroic class? Is that a fact? They seem much like everything else to me.
8.Lack of anything meaningful to do as a solo player once you have thousands of gold and maxed out your chars skills and profs.
9.The built in time sink actually feel just like that now. They never used to, but they sure do these days.
I would most likly try another Blizzard mmo but i dont think i would stay as long as i have done in Warcraft if i felt the game was starting to go downhill i would leave . I enjoyed the Warcraft experiance and had i felt it been handled better in the last couple of years i would proberbly still be there now still be there in years to come . As it stands i ve given up and have no desire to return at present .
Yes, I would trust Blizzard even in another MMO. WoW, besides being successful, turned out to be quite fun for me until end game... They created a new basis for many other MMOs. Perhaps in their new game they'll improve the systems and the weaknesses that WoW put together.
Yes, I would trust Blizzard even in another MMO. WoW, besides being successful, turned out to be quite fun for me until end game... They created a new basis for many other MMOs. Perhaps in their new game they'll improve the systems and the weaknesses that WoW put together.
it will be interesting to see if it is indeed Starcraft based . I m not sure what the current buzz is on its new mmo whether its fantasy or sci fi based . If its the later it will be going up against the the likes of the starwars mmo in that genre . of course theres nothing to say a star wars game is going to be good but if it is it has a far larger possible fan base than even wow . Personally i doubt they do a repeat of WoW in that whatever they produce next will be a little more mature and more difficult in content . It would be silly for Blizzard to produce a second mmo aimed at such a young player base as WoW now is . I m not saying theres nothing there for adults but generally speaking this game is not aimed at people 18 + anymore .
i still trust blizzard. i still dont consider wow a failure. remember that they have 3 very popular games and only developed one which is warcraft...other studios have more misses and than hits. considering the success ratio of the games they created, i still trust them to not fail
Blizzard's made plenty of mistakes with WoW but they've done a lot of good stuff too.
Do I like how they have handled the PvE? Yes it's fine. I don't do PvE other than the levelling process but from all accounts they do a great job with it.
Do I like the PvP? Yes and no. BG's are fun, Arena is an absolute pile of crap, world pvp is non-existent. Wintergrasp is fun but not the epic world-pvp encounter I'm craving for. Hell WG isn't pvp, it's Vehicle v Player, just a distraction.
Do I trust them to get the pvp right next time? 90% sure.
A lot of the problems which forced them to disuade us from World PvP were due to the core coding of the game and the server technology available. Technology has moved on and given the stakes they are playing for I'm sure they will give us what we want and design pvp more fully in to the next MMO.
The other aspect of it they got tragically wrong (and continue to do so) is only having the top-end awards through Arena for pvp'ers. Hopefully they will see the error of the ways in marginalising such a large section of the community and making them play a niche aspect of the game, that most don't even like, to progress in an alternate way to PvE. I'm sure they could think up a way to reward skill in BG's if they had choosen to, so I can only assume they think they have it right. Which is why I'm only 90% sure they will get it right next time.
One thing I don't like with WoW is how they broke down the walls between the factions. I liked Pali's being unique to Alliance - likewise with Shammies. I liked Horde being the ugly but cool race but they brought in blood elves and killed that.
On the whole this seems like a negative post, but it shouldn't be. I've played WoW on and off since launch and it's proven its metal time and time again and seen off all-comers. It's the game I always end up coming back to. So I'm pretty sure the next MMO will be something special. Maybe not 5 years of subs special but still prettty good.
_________________________________________ You can walk the walk but can you talk the talk?
The time sinks can be chosen in the playing style you like most.
Be it PvP and getting Battle master or Lore with Lore master or Chef cook. Etc: you choose what you like. In its end game you can combine a lot of things you like most and ignore the things you hate. People forget there are an enormous amount of daily quests, hundreds of them. You choose, you play or ignore.
That's true. You can ignore any part of the game you don't like. But once I had successfully ignored all the stuff I found boring, I ran out of things to do.
Yeah this post is beyond me as well I grew tired of the game and its direction but it is simply that I had outgrown it and the direction the game went in, I am a more traditional rpg player in that roleplaying is more important to me than pvp or even gear for that matter but I don't think they ever lied to me what they said they'd do they have done (I just couldn't care less about what they've done). And with so many companies heaping questionable releases on us I think there are companies we are much better served reserving our mistrust for.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Aiming the game at the casuals?? about 1% of all the guilds in wow have killed yougsoran on hardmode, and 99% cant even reach him on normal mode, and 0.5% have killed algalon, so you kepet alking about casuals and no challenege, yet the major playerbase cant even kill yogsoran or alglaon. Let alone do sarth+3 Infact I would take a guess less than 30% of the guilds have killed sarth_+3 on 10 man or 25 man. So u kepe talking about casuals etc, so a few thousand can clear Ulduar out of millions yet its casual??
i think it's cuz most of the "guilds" are not real gamers. there just people looking to do something else not involving their life.
most real gamers on wow, just pvp.
It is even worse.
Only 0.06% of the Raiders achieved the hardest achievement in the Ulduar Raid.
That's an average of 1 guild for ... every 5 to 6 servers. 1 Guild of around 30 players out of 60.000 players.
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So people here in this forum thread stating they don't like Wow because it has no challenge ... clearly have no clue what happens in the game.
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As for PvP: Try getting Deadly Gladiator title achievement;: that's 3 people out of .... 200.000 (tx to the 20 clustered PvP competition).
Now that is what I would call a challenge instead of standing anonymous in the crowd of meaningless "crowd" world pvp.
That's unique PvP heroism.
Yeah: talking of a challenge.
i m not familiar with the drops that can be achieved in the hardest part of an udluar raid they should be whar rare were to epics a few years ago . also the pvp is so unbalanced in wow it really depends on the classes you play in the arena as to how well you do . although i think blizzard got the 3 vs 3 right . . i actually still think theres a listening ear in that company thats not been deafend to fanbois praise . its a good thing too they will need it in the coming years . warcraft need to offer more challenges than just the two you have mentioned . it needs to be across the board at all levels and in all aspect of the gameplay not just confined to the odd end game boss and arenas .
I like the game. Is it perfect...no. There is no perfect MMO, nor will there ever be. As far as cranking out new "good" content, you cannot beat Blizzard. And, as far as bugs go, Blizzard has the most bug free MMO that I know of...especially for its vastness.
The time sinks can be chosen in the playing style you like most.
Be it PvP and getting Battle master or Lore with Lore master or Chef cook. Etc: you choose what you like. In its end game you can combine a lot of things you like most and ignore the things you hate. People forget there are an enormous amount of daily quests, hundreds of them. You choose, you play or ignore.
That's true. You can ignore any part of the game you don't like. But once I had successfully ignored all the stuff I found boring, I ran out of things to do.
Totally right. I didn't want to reply to a reply to my post, but not everything in WOW is good for us all. I don't do PvP and I can't do PvP, it just rattles me. The dailies are the most tedious horrible thing I have ever come across. I have done all the titles I could be bothered to do, and I did them twice for both my decent level 80 chars. The Exalted with, the Ambassador, The Argent Champion, Diplomat, Explorer. All done twice.
Went through many many quests, again twice. Cooking, first aid, blah, blah, blah. I've no need to tell you how and what goes on. What I'm saying is, once you've time synced your butt off for a few weeks you simply can not just keep doing it in order to find something in game to do.
I got to the stage a few weeks back where I only logged on to raid, and do my CD's. The guild master got sh1tty on with me so I gave her a few choice words, /gquit and have not been on since.
If Blizz can make a game to keep me happy for half the amount of time I spent in WOW, I'll be happy to buy and play it.
It must be very difficult to keep so many people happy all the time. I would suggest that it is not even possible.
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I'm concerned, Blizzard have started some strange stuff recently. It's top priority is money-orientated, it's released two patches recently on WC3- one which allowed somebody to hack into someone's computer via some of the code, and the second which fixed this but has now botched up a lot of custom maps. And then to top it all off there are teeny rumours going around that battle.net might be charged for in the future. It might be silly to listen to silly rumours like this but if they did I could well be annoyed.
The topic title is harsh. I've got a lot of enjoyment from their games for many years, and some of the things they've done in WoW that I might disagree with are so minor it's a non-factor for me.
WoW>best game ever>instant payment to blizz for every new product...
if blizzard took a S*** put it in a box and sold it, it would be platinum 11 times... I dont care what peoples complains are about blizzard... I hate WoW but I will always trust them to release amazing products that provide entertainment and happiness to millions upon millions.
"Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean"
Blizzard makes quality games, there is no dispute on that. Now what has Blizzard actually done to WoW that has made you think they lied or betrayed you? WoW is a mmorpg and those games evolve and change over time. After 5 years WoW has definitely had changes, some good, some bad depending on what you wanted out of the game. However, none of that has made Blizzard a bad company. As I stated before, Blizzard makes fun games and I'll continue to buy their games that interest me (like Diablo 3 and Starcraf 2). My only real disappointment from them is the canceling of Ghost.
I agree on the fact that Blizard has produced quality games. Though can you honestly say its worth paying that amount for?
I for one think WoW was and still is being "hyped", and I think its getting credit for things that any other developer would do the same should the money suffice.
You cannot honestly say WoW is ALL THAT if you take a look at other developers, and see what they get done from a very low budget...
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Sure would, even though I personally am not keen on WoW (after an issue where I was forced off the US servers I played on with my guild mates (I'm a Brit) when Blizzard refused to accept UK credit cards in payment on the US Servers - basically at the time we were getting the game a lot cheaper due to the £ - $ exchange rate and they wanted us to pay more and play on UK servers - added to the fact that I had just made a digital purchase of an update pack - which they refused to transfer across to the UK servers they were now trying to force me to play on - wanting me to pay AGAIN for a product I had already purchased.)
But, personal issues aside, Blizzard DO have a track record for making quality games which a LOT of people enjoy, as you can see from its dominance in the MMO market atm, as well as with such hits as Diablo, Starcraft etc.
Why should people NOT trust them?
At least Blizzard have NEVER made adjustments to WoW on the scale of the game destroying SWG: NGE experience
*shudder*
I have not read all replies as this thread got into the "same old, same old" by page 3!
Firstly, define "a lot of people?" Define "slow but inevitable decline?" These are all just regurgitated troll quotes, over and over again without any actual FACT or reason to back them up. Exactly how many posts can one person make with the same angle and points (so called)???
As for the initial post, trust has nothing to do with the game in any way what so ever. If you like the game you will pay and play, if you don't, you won't! If they make the game unplayable in my eyes at some point will it effect how i see any future projects they produce, well it may make me a little more cautious, but at the end of the day if it turns out to be a good game i will probably play it. Take it as mistrust, caution or just plain cynicism that has built up due to the state of the MMO market over the past few years, your choice.
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
The REAL funny thing about this thread is that for some reason the OP and a lot of you seem to think that the groans and moans of people on this site as well as other MMO or WoW related forums somehow constitute "a lot" or "many" people....
We forum junkies are maybe 1% of 1% of the overall MMO community.
We'd be very lucky if we were 5% of the WoW community.
The game is doing great and obviously millions of people still enjoy it and don't feel the need to complain on forums.
WoW will still be going in 5 more years just like EQ and UO have been going for 10 years and will still be going 5 years from now too.
Blizzard will NOT make WoW 2, they'll make a completely different experience. What they WILL likely do is continue to change WoW so that it is more accessable and requires less and less of a time commitment. Why? So people can continue their WoW subs without feeling they are wasting money because they don't play much because they are also sub'd to Blizzard's new MMO.
Your opinion is immaterial.
You're funny.
If blizzard is smart they will incorporate their new mmo into wow somehow. Not through gameplay, but by means of subscription tie in or package. Giving people access to both games would just cement their subscriber base that much more. The gentle nudge to push players to battle.net accounts may be a hint of this.
As they say in business 'it is much easier to retain old customers than it is to attract new ones'. Maybe the market will continue to grow at the pace it currently is and blizzards new game is aimed at a new untapped market, but it would be smart if they replaced themselves with something new before one of their competitors did.
Something will eventually come along that steals a sizable portion of their subscribers. Who knows when, but it will happen.
I think blizzard has done it good in wow. There has been some bad places but it's a good game.
Well, I'm here reading these posts, thinking. Yeah, no, mm, maybe, yes, sure, Blah, blah, blah. It's obvious lot's of people have lots of opinions about WOW. I myself am here right now, because I'm so damn tired after all these years of playing it.
Let's face it, not matter what class you play, you're only aiming to get to the level cap so you can gear up. Gearing up just got silly with patch 3.2. I'm raiding my arse off to get the best gear and along come Joe Schmo, never done anything worth a light, and there he is in gear almost as good as mine and all he's done is 5 man instances for a few weeks. WTF?
Back in vanilla days when you saw a priest with a full set of Molten Core gear on, it was like looking at God, lol. But now it's like yeah yeah yeah, whatever.
I really do wish Blizzard would bring out a new MMORPG, I'd jump on it like crazy, I just can't keep up the interest with WOW anymore, I think I'm finally worn out with it. Latest smack in the eye is the rumors that they are yet again to reuse more old instances. Come on Blizzard WTF are you playing at? Oh and only 5 more levels. If It was free I may be interested, but nothing much is free that you do. It's usually stuff you left out that you patch into the game.
I realise the new expansion rumors are just that, rumors. But rumors in WOW usually are feelers seeing what kinda reaction is out there.
Some pet hates that are annoying me in WOW.
1.People with great gear for doing nothing more than easy 5 man instances.
2.People who won't log off and spend there time jumping up and down over and over and over and over and over. LOG OFF YOU SAD B......
3.Not being able to get into instances for ages and ages.
4.Abusive behavior from people in game, you give it back and they report you.
5.Gold sellers spamming trade all day and everyday.
6.Dumbing down of the game, for example, glowing quest items and hints all over the map.
7.The need to make all classes seem equal with no classes actually really that much better than any other. DK's are heroic class? Is that a fact? They seem much like everything else to me.
8.Lack of anything meaningful to do as a solo player once you have thousands of gold and maxed out your chars skills and profs.
9.The built in time sink actually feel just like that now. They never used to, but they sure do these days.
I would most likly try another Blizzard mmo but i dont think i would stay as long as i have done in Warcraft if i felt the game was starting to go downhill i would leave . I enjoyed the Warcraft experiance and had i felt it been handled better in the last couple of years i would proberbly still be there now still be there in years to come . As it stands i ve given up and have no desire to return at present .
Yes, I would trust Blizzard even in another MMO. WoW, besides being successful, turned out to be quite fun for me until end game... They created a new basis for many other MMOs. Perhaps in their new game they'll improve the systems and the weaknesses that WoW put together.
it will be interesting to see if it is indeed Starcraft based . I m not sure what the current buzz is on its new mmo whether its fantasy or sci fi based . If its the later it will be going up against the the likes of the starwars mmo in that genre . of course theres nothing to say a star wars game is going to be good but if it is it has a far larger possible fan base than even wow . Personally i doubt they do a repeat of WoW in that whatever they produce next will be a little more mature and more difficult in content . It would be silly for Blizzard to produce a second mmo aimed at such a young player base as WoW now is . I m not saying theres nothing there for adults but generally speaking this game is not aimed at people 18 + anymore .
i still trust blizzard. i still dont consider wow a failure. remember that they have 3 very popular games and only developed one which is warcraft...other studios have more misses and than hits. considering the success ratio of the games they created, i still trust them to not fail
Blizzard's made plenty of mistakes with WoW but they've done a lot of good stuff too.
Do I like how they have handled the PvE? Yes it's fine. I don't do PvE other than the levelling process but from all accounts they do a great job with it.
Do I like the PvP? Yes and no. BG's are fun, Arena is an absolute pile of crap, world pvp is non-existent. Wintergrasp is fun but not the epic world-pvp encounter I'm craving for. Hell WG isn't pvp, it's Vehicle v Player, just a distraction.
Do I trust them to get the pvp right next time? 90% sure.
A lot of the problems which forced them to disuade us from World PvP were due to the core coding of the game and the server technology available. Technology has moved on and given the stakes they are playing for I'm sure they will give us what we want and design pvp more fully in to the next MMO.
The other aspect of it they got tragically wrong (and continue to do so) is only having the top-end awards through Arena for pvp'ers. Hopefully they will see the error of the ways in marginalising such a large section of the community and making them play a niche aspect of the game, that most don't even like, to progress in an alternate way to PvE. I'm sure they could think up a way to reward skill in BG's if they had choosen to, so I can only assume they think they have it right. Which is why I'm only 90% sure they will get it right next time.
One thing I don't like with WoW is how they broke down the walls between the factions. I liked Pali's being unique to Alliance - likewise with Shammies. I liked Horde being the ugly but cool race but they brought in blood elves and killed that.
On the whole this seems like a negative post, but it shouldn't be. I've played WoW on and off since launch and it's proven its metal time and time again and seen off all-comers. It's the game I always end up coming back to. So I'm pretty sure the next MMO will be something special. Maybe not 5 years of subs special but still prettty good.
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You can walk the walk but can you talk the talk?
That's true. You can ignore any part of the game you don't like. But once I had successfully ignored all the stuff I found boring, I ran out of things to do.
Yeah this post is beyond me as well I grew tired of the game and its direction but it is simply that I had outgrown it and the direction the game went in, I am a more traditional rpg player in that roleplaying is more important to me than pvp or even gear for that matter but I don't think they ever lied to me what they said they'd do they have done (I just couldn't care less about what they've done). And with so many companies heaping questionable releases on us I think there are companies we are much better served reserving our mistrust for.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
i think it's cuz most of the "guilds" are not real gamers. there just people looking to do something else not involving their life.
most real gamers on wow, just pvp.
It is even worse.
Only 0.06% of the Raiders achieved the hardest achievement in the Ulduar Raid.
That's an average of 1 guild for ... every 5 to 6 servers. 1 Guild of around 30 players out of 60.000 players.
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So people here in this forum thread stating they don't like Wow because it has no challenge ... clearly have no clue what happens in the game.
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As for PvP: Try getting Deadly Gladiator title achievement;: that's 3 people out of .... 200.000 (tx to the 20 clustered PvP competition).
Now that is what I would call a challenge instead of standing anonymous in the crowd of meaningless "crowd" world pvp.
That's unique PvP heroism.
Yeah: talking of a challenge.
i m not familiar with the drops that can be achieved in the hardest part of an udluar raid they should be whar rare were to epics a few years ago . also the pvp is so unbalanced in wow it really depends on the classes you play in the arena as to how well you do . although i think blizzard got the 3 vs 3 right .
. i actually still think theres a listening ear in that company thats not been deafend to fanbois praise . its a good thing too they will need it in the coming years . warcraft need to offer more challenges than just the two you have mentioned . it needs to be across the board at all levels and in all aspect of the gameplay not just confined to the odd end game boss and arenas .
Sure I trust Blizzard.
I like the game. Is it perfect...no. There is no perfect MMO, nor will there ever be. As far as cranking out new "good" content, you cannot beat Blizzard. And, as far as bugs go, Blizzard has the most bug free MMO that I know of...especially for its vastness.
That's true. You can ignore any part of the game you don't like. But once I had successfully ignored all the stuff I found boring, I ran out of things to do.
Totally right. I didn't want to reply to a reply to my post, but not everything in WOW is good for us all. I don't do PvP and I can't do PvP, it just rattles me. The dailies are the most tedious horrible thing I have ever come across. I have done all the titles I could be bothered to do, and I did them twice for both my decent level 80 chars. The Exalted with, the Ambassador, The Argent Champion, Diplomat, Explorer. All done twice.
Went through many many quests, again twice. Cooking, first aid, blah, blah, blah. I've no need to tell you how and what goes on. What I'm saying is, once you've time synced your butt off for a few weeks you simply can not just keep doing it in order to find something in game to do.
I got to the stage a few weeks back where I only logged on to raid, and do my CD's. The guild master got sh1tty on with me so I gave her a few choice words, /gquit and have not been on since.
If Blizz can make a game to keep me happy for half the amount of time I spent in WOW, I'll be happy to buy and play it.
It must be very difficult to keep so many people happy all the time. I would suggest that it is not even possible.