I am glad this game isn't doing that well, maybe it will get the idea into developers heads that they need to release an actually finished product as opposed to having to do these sudden and unfair changes.
What gave you the idea it wasn't doing well? The sellout on lifetime and 6 month subs? CO is alive and well, the vocal minority in CO like everywhere else doesn't really represent the masses. I actually like the defense changes, retcon is a little expensive though for now. But then in CoX on my first toon I thought enhancements were expensive but by the time I had capped out my alts never had any trouble buying anything... ever. Expect CO to be the same, your first main will struggle but then their alts will be swimming in coin... just like every other MMO known to man.
I think in the end you're going to be the one crying when you finish raging and realise you can't get your lifetime back. On a seperate note, anyone else notice the Desert crisis is a lot shorter than the Canada one? The end is more insteresting, but it was definitely shorter. Ah well I'll know next time to do them both to the final mission before tunneling out Trying a STR/END toon next I think, STR/EGO not really working out.
I alternate my toons through crisis zones to keep it a little fresh. Sent the first one through Canada, second through Desert, 3rd to Canada, etc.
I think in the end you're going to be the one crying when you finish raging and realise you can't get your lifetime back. On a seperate note, anyone else notice the Desert crisis is a lot shorter than the Canada one? The end is more insteresting, but it was definitely shorter. Ah well I'll know next time to do them both to the final mission before tunneling out Trying a STR/END toon next I think, STR/EGO not really working out.
I agree with you Solude, and to provide some evidence to the OP to rethink knee jerk reactions please see this post from this morning.
Whats up with all these whiny little bitches these days? Something goes wrong for a day and they already rage quit.
Are you gonna cancel your sub because you have to patch the game? I mean technically you can't play while its patching either.
Suck it up for fuck sake.... People like you make me sick, thats why you always think about what you are getting into before throwing that much cash around.
Its an mmo , there could be problems, bugs, crashes if you haven't thought of that before you spent your $$$ then you sir are an idiot.
lol...you can't be serious.....all i can say is idiot and why waste my time telling me this.....if your gonna cancel a lifetime membership after only 4 days of release....if that is even true, lol lol lol lol lol lol your a joke.
i am glad then, because then i don't have to play with people like you, lol.
you got no heart FOR THE GAME..... ITS THAT SIMPLE
I think in the end you're going to be the one crying when you finish raging and realise you can't get your lifetime back. On a seperate note, anyone else notice the Desert crisis is a lot shorter than the Canada one? The end is more insteresting, but it was definitely shorter. Ah well I'll know next time to do them both to the final mission before tunneling out Trying a STR/END toon next I think, STR/EGO not really working out.
I agree with you Solude, and to provide some evidence to the OP to rethink knee jerk reactions please see this post from this morning.
Cryptic extended us subscribers a free day for the outage.
Cryptic will always try to make ammends.. thats what they do.. everytime the screw things up they'll try and fix it to try and make the cracks not show.
Again, the OP had every right to do what he did.... if it wasn't after 5 days, maybe it would be after 10, or 20 for some other people. Truth be told if I was playing this game every day, or every other day for that matter, I would go through the content in well under a month. With new content added every 3 months, I really would only see myself resubbing once ever 3 or 4 months out of a year.. if that.
Personally I don't really feel its the OPs fault, it really is cryptics fault. The OP isn't the only person that got their money back and I bet you he won't be the last as more and more lifers play the game throughout the month.
And as for "the game is doing well because they sold out of lifetime subs" Since the lifetime subs were originally "limited" what was the limit? 1000? 10,000? Even if the limit was 20,000 subs, thats still a very small portion of the population. Theres no way of knowing how many people own lifetime subs.
Overall I hope the game does well... but it wouldn't surprise me to see it do below par.
Yes because first 5 days is the best time to judge any MMO right? you people are f***** hilarious.
I've been in CB for a pretty long time, was in OB all the way through, I saw the game go through many different changes, nothing says the game wasn't ready to launch better then flopping the first week. People are still trying to tell us its okay to flop a launch on the first week for an MMO.... I say they're just defending their purchase. Anyone with 2 eyes can see cryptic has been scrambling to make things right. All this coming from someone who actually likes the game.. can you believe that?
LOL played EQ for 10 years, WoW off and on for 6 years, EVE for 6 years...
Actual cost
EQ $170 x 10 = $1700
WoW $15 X 72 = $1080
EVE $15 X 72 = $1080
Lotro for three years with a lifetime $200 : )
The math is real simple just wish more games offered lifetimes.
Out of curiosity, how have you played WoW for 6 years?
Wasn't it released in 2003? Coulda swore I was playing WoW for xmas of 2003. Regardless was just an estimate anyway as I have multiple accounts and sometimes I buy 6 months or a year at a time
Yes because first 5 days is the best time to judge any MMO right? you people are f***** hilarious.
I've been in CB for a pretty long time, was in OB all the way through, I saw the game go through many different changes, nothing says the game wasn't ready to launch better then flopping the first week. People are still trying to tell us its okay to flop a launch on the first week for an MMO.... I say they're just defending their purchase. Anyone with 2 eyes can see cryptic has been scrambling to make things right. All this coming from someone who actually likes the game.. can you believe that?
No because every MMO needs time to improve. And CO is not as bad as some people are making it to be. Yes its not on easy mode anymore. i am all for Cryptic encouraging team play. Nothing bad about it.
Wow, you never should have bought the lifetime subscription to begin with. As MMO launches go this one has been very good, one outage that lasted for less then 12 hours is nothing.
I am glad you were able to get your money back though.
I've been in CB for a pretty long time, was in OB all the way through, I saw the game go through many different changes, nothing says the game wasn't ready to launch better then flopping the first week. People are still trying to tell us its okay to flop a launch on the first week for an MMO.... I say they're just defending their purchase. Anyone with 2 eyes can see cryptic has been scrambling to make things right. All this coming from someone who actually likes the game.. can you believe that?
Truth and religion are mortal enemies.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Buying a lifetime subscription is to signify that you are in it for the long haul. If you were planning on playing it for a month or two you would not have done this. If you wanted to play for a decent amount of time but not make a long term commitment you could have opted for a 6 month subscription. Since you got a lifetime one this shows you planned on playing for longer than that.
My question is how long are you planning on playing? One year? Two or three? The rest of your life? The point I'm trying to make is this; if you were planning on playing for at least 2 years that would be a total of 730 days. So...you quit because you now only have a chance of playing 729 days out of the next 730?
Take a deep breath, think happy thoughts, and keep your sub. You'll thank me in the end.
Our spirit was here long before you
Long before us
And long will it be after your pride brings you to your end
Yes because first 5 days is the best time to judge any MMO right? you people are f***** hilarious.
I've been in CB for a pretty long time, was in OB all the way through, I saw the game go through many different changes, nothing says the game wasn't ready to launch better then flopping the first week. People are still trying to tell us its okay to flop a launch on the first week for an MMO.... I say they're just defending their purchase. Anyone with 2 eyes can see cryptic has been scrambling to make things right. All this coming from someone who actually likes the game.. can you believe that?
No because every MMO needs time to improve. And CO is not as bad as some people are making it to be. Yes its not on easy mode anymore. i am all for Cryptic encouraging team play. Nothing bad about it.
this
some people need to step back and breath...remember all MMO releases....and CO has beaten most there. It's a good game....get over yourselves....
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
First, to those of you referring to the OP as a dude, the OP is in fact, female. Second, I find it rather ironic to find this thread by the OP after having received a warning myself from a Moderator for a reply to the OPs following comment in another thread. The comment was in regards to those complaining about Cryptic first removing the Lifetime Sub offer for lack of quantity:
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"Really gotta worry about the precedent being set here, cuss, scream, threaten boycotts, lawsuits, throw thing and generally act like a 2 year old and lo,and behold you get your way.
I was really looking forward to the game and have 3 lifetimes bought over a week ago, but now I have to question if I want to be part of this game. Now everytime the kiddies want anything they will just scream rant and rave until they get their way.
The only positive I see in this whole mess is that school just started back."
Obviously you won't see my reply, as it was removed.
Not sure who it was that reported me, as I've seen posts that are still in tact today that are far worse than my response, but oh well. I just have two things to say:
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What gave you the idea it wasn't doing well? The sellout on lifetime and 6 month subs? CO is alive and well, the vocal minority in CO like everywhere else doesn't really represent the masses. I actually like the defense changes, retcon is a little expensive though for now. But then in CoX on my first toon I thought enhancements were expensive but by the time I had capped out my alts never had any trouble buying anything... ever. Expect CO to be the same, your first main will struggle but then their alts will be swimming in coin... just like every other MMO known to man.
I alternate my toons through crisis zones to keep it a little fresh. Sent the first one through Canada, second through Desert, 3rd to Canada, etc.
I agree with you Solude, and to provide some evidence to the OP to rethink knee jerk reactions please see this post from this morning.
http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=53646
Cryptic extended us subscribers a free day for the outage.
Whats up with all these whiny little bitches these days? Something goes wrong for a day and they already rage quit.
Are you gonna cancel your sub because you have to patch the game? I mean technically you can't play while its patching either.
Suck it up for fuck sake.... People like you make me sick, thats why you always think about what you are getting into before throwing that much cash around.
Its an mmo , there could be problems, bugs, crashes if you haven't thought of that before you spent your $$$ then you sir are an idiot.
So you raged quit after 5 days? good for you. Bloody spoiled kids these days. No patience at all.
lol...you can't be serious.....all i can say is idiot and why waste my time telling me this.....if your gonna cancel a lifetime membership after only 4 days of release....if that is even true, lol lol lol lol lol lol your a joke.
i am glad then, because then i don't have to play with people like you, lol.
you got no heart FOR THE GAME..... ITS THAT SIMPLE
I agree with you Solude, and to provide some evidence to the OP to rethink knee jerk reactions please see this post from this morning.
http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=53646
Cryptic extended us subscribers a free day for the outage.
Cryptic will always try to make ammends.. thats what they do.. everytime the screw things up they'll try and fix it to try and make the cracks not show.
Again, the OP had every right to do what he did.... if it wasn't after 5 days, maybe it would be after 10, or 20 for some other people. Truth be told if I was playing this game every day, or every other day for that matter, I would go through the content in well under a month. With new content added every 3 months, I really would only see myself resubbing once ever 3 or 4 months out of a year.. if that.
Personally I don't really feel its the OPs fault, it really is cryptics fault. The OP isn't the only person that got their money back and I bet you he won't be the last as more and more lifers play the game throughout the month.
And as for "the game is doing well because they sold out of lifetime subs" Since the lifetime subs were originally "limited" what was the limit? 1000? 10,000? Even if the limit was 20,000 subs, thats still a very small portion of the population. Theres no way of knowing how many people own lifetime subs.
Overall I hope the game does well... but it wouldn't surprise me to see it do below par.
Yes because first 5 days is the best time to judge any MMO right? you people are f***** hilarious.
I've been in CB for a pretty long time, was in OB all the way through, I saw the game go through many different changes, nothing says the game wasn't ready to launch better then flopping the first week. People are still trying to tell us its okay to flop a launch on the first week for an MMO.... I say they're just defending their purchase. Anyone with 2 eyes can see cryptic has been scrambling to make things right. All this coming from someone who actually likes the game.. can you believe that?
Out of curiosity, how have you played WoW for 6 years?
Wasn't it released in 2003? Coulda swore I was playing WoW for xmas of 2003. Regardless was just an estimate anyway as I have multiple accounts and sometimes I buy 6 months or a year at a time
I've been in CB for a pretty long time, was in OB all the way through, I saw the game go through many different changes, nothing says the game wasn't ready to launch better then flopping the first week. People are still trying to tell us its okay to flop a launch on the first week for an MMO.... I say they're just defending their purchase. Anyone with 2 eyes can see cryptic has been scrambling to make things right. All this coming from someone who actually likes the game.. can you believe that?
No because every MMO needs time to improve. And CO is not as bad as some people are making it to be. Yes its not on easy mode anymore. i am all for Cryptic encouraging team play. Nothing bad about it.
Wow, you never should have bought the lifetime subscription to begin with. As MMO launches go this one has been very good, one outage that lasted for less then 12 hours is nothing.
I am glad you were able to get your money back though.
Truth and religion are mortal enemies.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Buying a lifetime subscription is to signify that you are in it for the long haul. If you were planning on playing it for a month or two you would not have done this. If you wanted to play for a decent amount of time but not make a long term commitment you could have opted for a 6 month subscription. Since you got a lifetime one this shows you planned on playing for longer than that.
My question is how long are you planning on playing? One year? Two or three? The rest of your life? The point I'm trying to make is this; if you were planning on playing for at least 2 years that would be a total of 730 days. So...you quit because you now only have a chance of playing 729 days out of the next 730?
Take a deep breath, think happy thoughts, and keep your sub. You'll thank me in the end.
Our spirit was here long before you
Long before us
And long will it be after your pride brings you to your end
I've been in CB for a pretty long time, was in OB all the way through, I saw the game go through many different changes, nothing says the game wasn't ready to launch better then flopping the first week. People are still trying to tell us its okay to flop a launch on the first week for an MMO.... I say they're just defending their purchase. Anyone with 2 eyes can see cryptic has been scrambling to make things right. All this coming from someone who actually likes the game.. can you believe that?
No because every MMO needs time to improve. And CO is not as bad as some people are making it to be. Yes its not on easy mode anymore. i am all for Cryptic encouraging team play. Nothing bad about it.
this
some people need to step back and breath...remember all MMO releases....and CO has beaten most there. It's a good game....get over yourselves....
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
First, to those of you referring to the OP as a dude, the OP is in fact, female. Second, I find it rather ironic to find this thread by the OP after having received a warning myself from a Moderator for a reply to the OPs following comment in another thread. The comment was in regards to those complaining about Cryptic first removing the Lifetime Sub offer for lack of quantity:
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"Really gotta worry about the precedent being set here, cuss, scream, threaten boycotts, lawsuits, throw thing and generally act like a 2 year old and lo,and behold you get your way.
I was really looking forward to the game and have 3 lifetimes bought over a week ago, but now I have to question if I want to be part of this game. Now everytime the kiddies want anything they will just scream rant and rave until they get their way.
The only positive I see in this whole mess is that school just started back."
Here is the link to the thread: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3043979#3043979
Obviously you won't see my reply, as it was removed.
Not sure who it was that reported me, as I've seen posts that are still in tact today that are far worse than my response, but oh well. I just have two things to say:
1. Apology excepted.
2. Ah, the irony of life!
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