Originally posted by Mrbluray There is no such thing as "griefing" or "ganking". They are simply excuses made up for one reason or another. It's all in your head. Think of it this way, when you kill NPCs, are you "griefing" them? Are you "ganking" them? Of course not. There is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing". Learn not to make excuses and grind harder.
You are an idiot.
You are outrageous.
You must, therefore, be a troll.
Are my assumptions accurate?
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
QFT!! Bullies(on line and off) are not interested in a "challenge". Thats why they have to have a 20 to 40 plus level advantage, on top of three or more of them per victim. If the tables get turned, they run away FAST. Then start howling about the class in question being Over Powered!...
I agree. Bullies will often run if they run into a fair fight. Bullies in real life are usually going for the smallest kid and often in group. It is the same thing online.
And if they have griefed someone a while that logs on their main and beat the crap out of them they whine like kids.
There are a group of players that consider themselves uber and will fight almost anything but they rarely grief other people.
I've tried to stay out of this one, but it's too late to say "don't feed the troll".
Loke666, (and Wraithone) you are right on. Perfectly said and very much the truth.
There is no such thing as "griefing" or "ganking". They are simply excuses made up for one reason or another. It's all in your head. Think of it this way, when you kill NPCs, are you "griefing" them? Are you "ganking" them? Of course not. There is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing". Learn not to make excuses and grind harder.
Using NPC for example does not convince anyone that is not a NPC. >_>
There are no such thing as "carebears", they are myths made up for one reason or another. It's all in your head.
Think of it this way, when you get killed by a mob, are you a "carebear"? Of course not. There is no such thing as "carebears". Learn to not make excuses and grind harder.
I wish this topic actually made more sense for discussion, so I award you with this:
There is no such thing as "griefing" or "ganking". They are simply excuses made up for one reason or another. It's all in your head. Think of it this way, when you kill NPCs, are you "griefing" them? Are you "ganking" them? Of course not. There is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing". Learn not to make excuses and grind harder.
Using NPC for example does not convince anyone that is not a NPC. >_>
There are no such thing as "carebears", they are myths made up for one reason or another. It's all in your head.
Think of it this way, when you get killed by a mob, are you a "carebear"? Of course not. There is no such thing as "carebears". Learn to not make excuses and grind harder.
I wish this topic actually made more sense for discussion, so I award you with this:
While I disagree that there is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing", I understand and agree with everything else I read from the OP after that. (I did skip some pages, so if he said something crazy, I may not have seen it)
For me, I don't care what other gamers want or are trying to do. Especially if they are the enemy faction. They are KOS. I killed over 1500 enemies in Aion on the last beta weekend. And I had a blast doing it. I had no concern whether I was more powerful, better equipped, or may have had some other advantage. If I can kill that person's character, I will. And I'll look for the most efficient manner possible to kill them so I can move on to my next victim.
I don't necessarily see PvP as winning and losing. I see it more as an enjoyable aspect of a game, which I engage in and continuously try to improve. I am completely unconcerned how my opponent feels about me killing them.
And for everyone trying to psychoanalyze the OP. You do realize we are talking about a videogame... right?
If they didn't exist....then how were the names formed?
People will always love ganking/griefing...and people will always complain about it. But just because you think "they don't exist" doesn't just make you look stupid for saying so...it also doesn't make them go away magically....
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
There is no such thing as "griefing" or "ganking". They are simply excuses made up for one reason or another. It's all in your head. Think of it this way, when you kill NPCs, are you "griefing" them? Are you "ganking" them? Of course not. There is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing". Learn not to make excuses and grind harder.
hmm it is hard not to repeat what some members have already said about you, BUT such nonsense has to be commented upon:
As I used to be a WoW-head, I would frequently strategize against the other faction's "best classes" (I say it this way because it changes every month or so) as they were grinding their toons. I would absolutely grief them, lower level or not, down to a pulp until they'd log, thus preventing more (at the time) Alliance locks from ever getting to 70 in good time.
There are some failed logics here. One is from FkingLinux claiming you cannot be griefed if you don't feel grief. That is untrue. If it helps to understand, think of it as child abuse where the child thinks nothing is wrong. Second, for FkingLinux again... if you claim that logging off or changing your original plan of enjoying a game is to avoid what someone else is doing to you, then that is control being taken away from the person who should have that control. You do not decide how or when I play. Whether it is allowed or not is a moot point. Whether it is frowned upon is a moot point. I don't have to have an emotional response for someone else to feel it or see it. /shrug. My options are also none of your concern
Now, for MrBluRay-
Your logic is wrong in the sense that you are only using it to use a technical term to prove a what, theory? All in our heads? What is? Perception? Thought? Responses or lack thereof? Everything is in our heads. Even the pain from our pinky toe. And for some even the pain in YOUR pinky toe. But I digress...
What I don't understand is your stalwart path to "winning" as a PVP'er. You contradict yourself in saying you attack everything in sight versus "training" to be better and to "win". But it leads me to a question I have been meaning to ask since page 6...
There is no such thing as "trolling", or "flame baiting": They are simply excuses made up for one reason or another. It's all in your head. Think of it this way: When you make retarded forum posts, are you "trolling"? Are you "flame baiting"? Of course not. There is no such thing as "trolling" or "flame baiting". Learn not to make excuses and grind harder.
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LOL, ... I call shenanagans. Mrblueray is obviously a fraud and most likly is cannon fodder for everone he has ever fought his level or higher.
You are an idiot.
You are outrageous.
You must, therefore, be a troll.
Are my assumptions accurate?
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
WTF? No subscription fee?
I agree. Bullies will often run if they run into a fair fight. Bullies in real life are usually going for the smallest kid and often in group. It is the same thing online.
And if they have griefed someone a while that logs on their main and beat the crap out of them they whine like kids.
There are a group of players that consider themselves uber and will fight almost anything but they rarely grief other people.
I've tried to stay out of this one, but it's too late to say "don't feed the troll".
Loke666, (and Wraithone) you are right on. Perfectly said and very much the truth.
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The only thing I have to say about this Troll thread is...
hasta la vista MRbluray...
You must be right, or otherwise, why would you be banned?
Mrbluray was banned? Why that is TERRIBLE.
Not really.
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
Id probably of gotten banned for this comment
I have no idea what you are talking about...
Well, its certainly been entertaining...And has extended to 24 pages now...
Using NPC for example does not convince anyone that is not a NPC. >_>
There are no such thing as "carebears", they are myths made up for one reason or another. It's all in your head.
Think of it this way, when you get killed by a mob, are you a "carebear"? Of course not. There is no such thing as "carebears". Learn to not make excuses and grind harder.
I wish this topic actually made more sense for discussion, so I award you with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAOxY_nHdew
Using NPC for example does not convince anyone that is not a NPC. >_>
There are no such thing as "carebears", they are myths made up for one reason or another. It's all in your head.
Think of it this way, when you get killed by a mob, are you a "carebear"? Of course not. There is no such thing as "carebears". Learn to not make excuses and grind harder.
I wish this topic actually made more sense for discussion, so I award you with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAOxY_nHdew
Hey now! Not so fast! There certainly ARE CareBears! I should know, as I'm one of them!
Interesting thread.
While I disagree that there is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing", I understand and agree with everything else I read from the OP after that. (I did skip some pages, so if he said something crazy, I may not have seen it)
For me, I don't care what other gamers want or are trying to do. Especially if they are the enemy faction. They are KOS. I killed over 1500 enemies in Aion on the last beta weekend. And I had a blast doing it. I had no concern whether I was more powerful, better equipped, or may have had some other advantage. If I can kill that person's character, I will. And I'll look for the most efficient manner possible to kill them so I can move on to my next victim.
I don't necessarily see PvP as winning and losing. I see it more as an enjoyable aspect of a game, which I engage in and continuously try to improve. I am completely unconcerned how my opponent feels about me killing them.
And for everyone trying to psychoanalyze the OP. You do realize we are talking about a videogame... right?
If they didn't exist....then how were the names formed?
People will always love ganking/griefing...and people will always complain about it. But just because you think "they don't exist" doesn't just make you look stupid for saying so...it also doesn't make them go away magically....
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
hmm it is hard not to repeat what some members have already said about you, BUT such nonsense has to be commented upon:
You are an idiot
As I used to be a WoW-head, I would frequently strategize against the other faction's "best classes" (I say it this way because it changes every month or so) as they were grinding their toons. I would absolutely grief them, lower level or not, down to a pulp until they'd log, thus preventing more (at the time) Alliance locks from ever getting to 70 in good time.
There are some failed logics here. One is from FkingLinux claiming you cannot be griefed if you don't feel grief. That is untrue. If it helps to understand, think of it as child abuse where the child thinks nothing is wrong. Second, for FkingLinux again... if you claim that logging off or changing your original plan of enjoying a game is to avoid what someone else is doing to you, then that is control being taken away from the person who should have that control. You do not decide how or when I play. Whether it is allowed or not is a moot point. Whether it is frowned upon is a moot point. I don't have to have an emotional response for someone else to feel it or see it. /shrug. My options are also none of your concern
Now, for MrBluRay-
Your logic is wrong in the sense that you are only using it to use a technical term to prove a what, theory? All in our heads? What is? Perception? Thought? Responses or lack thereof? Everything is in our heads. Even the pain from our pinky toe. And for some even the pain in YOUR pinky toe. But I digress...
What I don't understand is your stalwart path to "winning" as a PVP'er. You contradict yourself in saying you attack everything in sight versus "training" to be better and to "win". But it leads me to a question I have been meaning to ask since page 6...
How do you win if there is no competition?
He's not a sociopath, he's a dork. This thread reads like a bunch of junior high kids passing notes in class. Dear mods, please close it.
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