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Ziljianx
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Recently I asked for help on thier help channel in game that is and was given a poor answer a cope out really to a in game bug issue one of many.
Anyway I was promptly put on mute by a Gm I then progressed to the forums to ask for help as to why I was put on mute how long for and questions about the in game bug. I was then given a 7 day ban by a forum mod with no response to why.
I then loged back into the game to find out my mute time was over a few players where discussing the bug I had asked about in the beginning of this epic saga 
anyway I replied to them and then found myself muted yet again with no reply or response from the Game Manager as to why I was muted.
Next thing I know Ive been booted out of the game and had to relog to get back in still muted mind you.
This is pretty much they way they are treating ppl in this game atm a real Nazi type method to they way they treat you.
Be warned this game is months away from being playable it has some serious bug - memory leak problems that need to be addressed saying that its still a great game with masses of potential and will be a ripper once the bug issues are dealt with.
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1: If it has a memory leak, it has to be crazy small because I've been able to run the game for hours on end with no change in performance
2: I highly doubt we're getting the full story here, as I've seen the GMs put up with a ton of crap before taking action. I'm guessing theres a high probability you laced your "discussion" with demands, entitlement, and general hostility. Additionally, Help is not for discussing bugs. If you keep spamming it because they're not listening, they are going to mute you, simple as that.
Honestly, you need screenshots if you expect me to believe for a second you didn't have it coming for one reason or another
Bans a perma, but so are sigs in necro posts.
EAT ME MMORPG.com!
When playing allways run fraps in the back..so you can record everything and post it in the internet...i allways have fraps on...
I dont play FE anymore, for a wide range of reasons
Screenshot or it didnt happen
The following statement is false
The previous statement is true
Maybe it has become internet limbo but do some people actually know what a Nazi is?
I guess Dictator is more appropriate to use in this example.
Ah well.
wait you made a new account just to post that?
cool
Reminds me of a thread about Battlefield two where someone posted on a clan's server forum saying he was a victim of mod abuse. He had terrible grammar too, and posted no proof, just made himself out to be the victim, getting banned for simply taking a plane he had been waiting for.
Turns out all the players in the match SS'd the whole thing, the 'victim' actually stole a server admins plane, team killed him with it, and cussed him out and after the admin got mad. Admin threatened to kick and he got mad, swore out the whole server and got permabanned.
Hilarious.
I hope you understand why I'm skeptical of your story, having posted no proof and having no one to correlate your poorly typed story.
tl;dr You're full of shit.
My favourite as of yet is when a history teacher, according to himself, choosed to use the word name nazis... I would not want to be a pupil to that teacher (to lay it out nice).
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
Personaly i find it lovely how people choose random words and fuss about them.
"OMG he said nazi" q.q
Care to elaborate whats wrong with that? I mean unless you are one of those grandiose minds wich neglect mass murders ever happening during those times. You do reconn that word is part of our history?
Alas in before "maybe your history but not mine"
Nazi is not equal to mass murderer. Nazi = nationalist, overvalueing his/her own nation above all others. Plain as that.
All other meanings associated to the word "nazi" is because of WW2.
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
i think piivot made a new account after ragequit mmorpg.com because his last post was locked
Wrong. She deleted her account before the post was locked (check the comments). OP sounds like her alright, though
if that was your point.
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
and then, and then, yeah, after I was muted for no reason what so ever, Drizzt Do'Urden came in, kicked some ass....yeah, that's right. Then I was unmuted and told to say something, then I was muted again when I tried to talk. Then I switched to my max level hardcore raid toon in a game without raids, yeah I'm that cool...then I kicked the gm's ass...and Drizzt's too....oh, and the Matrix sucked, WoW's for carebears, Aion's a grind, I'm muted on Aion cuz it's grindy too. ummmmm yeah, FE mods sucks.
There, saved the OP his time on a follow up post.
(Yeah, I dunno either...haven't had my morning coffee yet can ya tell :P)
*nods
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Oh come on OP let's have the full story and not just the bit's that make you sound good and the game/gm's sound bad.
Bugs and any game problems are spoke about all the time in help channel,the only time I see people being muted is when they keep on using caps and raging,or when they keep there personal attacks on player's or gm's going after being warned.
So again OP let's have the full story of what you did to be muted not once but twice.
I agree with the above poster it could be the pivot girl that got muted for all the childish rants she put in the help channel or a player that did something very similar and made an account here just to have a rant.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
Hey look, he left out half of the story. After carrying on conversations with the GMs, and being in FE for a while, I doubt they'd just ban you for asking a question. Maybe asking it ALL IN FRAKKING CAPS, or using bad language, or insulting the game/GMs, or spamming it. Either way, the whole story would be great here not just "I said this. I got banned. I said it again. I got banned" I mean, at least Piivot filled in the holes with the truth (that she mouthed off to the GM...).
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"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but I know World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein
Nazi is not equal to mass murderer. Nazi = nationalist, overvalueing his/her own nation above all others. Plain as that.
All other meanings associated to the word "nazi" is because of WW2.
DB
Please check up your reading.... Nazi's and nationalists are two totally different things. For one Nazi's are people who believe only one group of people should have control/exist in the world and all others are inferior. As Nationalist believe in a certain type of government or are patriotic or believe their nation is the best (no matter who is in it, so they do not care white or black.) in some way.
Nationalists are that nationalist. While Nazi's are national socialist.
Edit: Also most of the origin came from WWII and was in fact German invented.. There was no such thing as a nazi before it, well there was leading up to it. Again, read up on your history before making such a bald statement. Historians wil eat you up alive.
Exactly what I was thinking. I beleieve it was a "her" though...
Thing I if I had something wrong like swearing or abuse a GM I could understand but I didnt I just wanted a straight answer to a game bug issue I had and still have .
The least they could do is either warn or inform you of what you have done wrong to be muted for but they dont they just mute you then ban you from forums when you ask why .
They still have not replied to my request for help to do with the bug its like they would rather you just go away and say nothing and if you do say something you get this treatment.
with the conversion from US dollars to Aus dollars this cost me $136 for the game and 1 months subscription at this stage id be happy with a full refund so I can move on to something that works and where you are treated like a customer and not like a mongrel dog!
Nazi is not equal to mass murderer. Nazi = nationalist, overvalueing his/her own nation above all others. Plain as that.
All other meanings associated to the word "nazi" is because of WW2.
DB
Please check up your reading.... Nazi's and nationalists are two totally different things. For one Nazi's are people who believe only one group of people should have control/exist in the world and all others are inferior. As Nationalist believe in a certain type of government or are patriotic or believe their nation is the best (no matter who is in it, so they do not care white or black.) in some way.
Nationalists are that nationalist. While Nazi's are national socialist.
Edit: Also most of the origin came from WWII and was in fact German invented.. There was no such thing as a nazi before it, well there was leading up to it. Again, read up on your history before making such a bald statement. Historians wil eat you up alive.
I was talking about the origin of the word. I also said there are other meanings associated, and just like you said: mostly because of WW2. Still, the term Nazi does NOT equal mass murderer, as many assume.
This is all what I meant above.
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Although Mr. Webster defines a Nazi as, "A member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, founded in Germany in 1919 and brought to power in 1933 under Adolf Hitler" there should not be a single person in their right mind who would argue that it does not also mean racism, fanaticism, genocide or evil. There is so much emotional baggage that goes along with the term Nazi that it would be criminal, criminal to disregard said baggage. Seriously. Only a person who likes to argue would claim that Nazi has a narrow, unemotional meaning.
How can Nazi NOT equal mass murder?! How?
For clarification:
Nazi(from Mirriam-Webster):
1 : a member of a German fascist party controlling Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler
2 often not capitalized a : one who espouses the beliefs and policies of the German Nazis : fascist b : one who is likened to a German Nazi : a harshly domineering, dictatorial, or intolerant person
So, that would largely mean, one who espouses fascism.
Fascism(from same):
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>
To liken GM responses in an MMO to the genocide of a race and the oppression of ones own people is quite nearly criminal.
Every time a person compares something so trivial to fascism, I think a Jew should get to punch that person in the face.
Since you have done so, I can't help but default to the notion that you probably started calling the GM a Nazi or fascist, at which point you were muted and booted. I'd give that GM a raise.
Although Mr. Webster defines a Nazi as, "A member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, founded in Germany in 1919 and brought to power in 1933 under Adolf Hitler" there should not be a single person in their right mind who would argue that it does not also mean racism, fanaticism, genocide or evil. There is so much emotional baggage that goes along with the term Nazi that it would be criminal, criminal to disregard said baggage. Seriously. Only a person who likes to argue would claim that Nazi has a narrow, unemotional meaning.
How can Nazi NOT equal mass murder?! How?
Simple: it is not it's meaning.
Mass murder can be associated with this term, but someone can be a Nazi and not be a mass murderer at all.
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
I really don't like it either when people use the term fascist or nazi, because clearly they do not exactly know what they mean. I do know they are horrible terms and should never even be mentioned.. so there's agreement on this.
However, I can't ignore the fact that your post here is just a chain of assumptions. Why do you think the OP called anyone a nazi in his/her face? I think that's unrealistic.
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Although Mr. Webster defines a Nazi as, "A member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, founded in Germany in 1919 and brought to power in 1933 under Adolf Hitler" there should not be a single person in their right mind who would argue that it does not also mean racism, fanaticism, genocide or evil. There is so much emotional baggage that goes along with the term Nazi that it would be criminal, criminal to disregard said baggage. Seriously. Only a person who likes to argue would claim that Nazi has a narrow, unemotional meaning.
How can Nazi NOT equal mass murder?! How?
Simple: it is not it's meaning.
Mass murder can be associated with this term, but someone can be a Nazi and not be a mass murderer at all.
DB
Right. And the mustache Hitler sported doesn't have any intrisic meaning but I'll be damned if anyone would sport that look after WWII (excluding Halloween of course). So maybe Nazi didn't initially mean racism, fanaticism, genocide or evil but you cannot argue that it doesn't mean that now. I just really don't understand how anyone could claim otherwise. I don't. /shrug
Godwin's Law. OP has lost this arguement.
It states: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." The term Godwin's law can also refer to the tradition that whoever makes such a comparison is said to "lose" the debate.
The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued, that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.