When I think of really PVP focused games these come to mind. Darkfall - Really its only point, no one will ever say they are there really enjoying the PVE. EVE - While entire game is focused on PVP, you can spend an entire gaming career doing nothing but PVE if you chose to.
Er...now I could list a lot more games like Aion, Warhammer, AOC, etc that all have PVP to varying degrees, some more than others of course, but I don't consider any of them to be hardcore PVP games, mostly because dying doesn't really hurt much in them, which takes them off the list for me (but not others)
OP did not specify hardcore PvP as a requirement and also did not want total failures and I would say Darkfall falls into that category.
Besides, the PvP combat in Darfkall is horrendously clunky and the game has a terrible UI. So I would certainly not consider that game a good PvP game.
My summation:
Eve = Hardcore PvP but the PvP is not readily available. Space is big and it is hard to track down and kill people. Most fights are unbalanced. Joining a 0.0 corp is a way to access PvP but there is no telling how often wars happen. Even so, I would say Eve is the best hardcore PvP game available.
WAR = Casual PvP which is very readily available. You can join scenarios anywhere and it gives you good exp so you can level just by doing PvP. However there really isnt much else, good, PvP besides scenarios. End game PvP is garbage, or atleast was when I played 4-5 months ago. But still the game is the best casual PvP MMORPG around.
Aion = Casual PvP which is not readily available. Kinda like WAR but without the scenarios that makes the PvP readily available for everyone, everywhere. PvE is better than WAR though and so is the gfx.
Guildwars = Not an MMORPG.
Darkfall = Hardcore PvP which is not readily available (unless you enjoy ganking noobs) but also bad game. Gfx, UI, combat mechanics, exploits is all bad in this game. So OP I would stay well clear of that game if I was you.
I thought about Guild Wards, but having never played it but following it "from far", I saw many expansions come out...
How does that work, I need to buy like 5 expansions to play it now?
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There is only one expansion and it's purely optional. The other 3 parts to the game are campaigns which are stand alone. If all you wanted to do is pvp then just buy the original game and get the pvp pack (gives you elite skills and such for pvp characters only). You can pvp right after installation. It isn't a mmorpg in the traditional sense but outside an FPS or RTS it is the most balanced competitive online pvp game available.
I also suggest Darkfall. That is if you enjoy meaningful pvp in a huge open word. If not then I suggest you try something with instances/battlegrounds and safe zones.
I downloaded Eve, got the free trial, but during the tutorial, thought "fuck this lol I don't want to be a space ship" :XD I'm not dis resepcting that game fo course, it's a matter of personal taste. gona check Guild Wars for free trials
You are so wrong... you are not a space ship. You are the egg inside of the space ship with the flashing strobe light.
ok sorry mate, I didn't mean to offend you but I still don't want to be an egg in a spaceship :XD
Well, I can't understand your obseesion for an Avatar, but you are not alone so EVE is planning on adding avatars in stations sometime in the future. (soon they say, always soon)
I look at my spaceship as the chosen armor/weapon set for the day.
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Face of Mankind or Roma Victor is the most PvP focused MMORPG. They both are literally all teamwork to build alliances and gain power in your own faction, then duke it out in PvP. There's literally no PvE.
Darkfall same as Warhammer? What are you smoking lol
DF is a PVP game, War is themepark PVE in my opinion
After having played them all I think Darkfall is the clear winner for best PVP MMO at the moment. If you enjoy PVP the most you owe it to yourself to try it.
Helloes, I am very dissapointed in AoC and am actively looking for another MMORPG to play. However, AoC set the standard pretty high with the combat system (personal opinion of course) and I could not go to a game where you point and click. Priority is PvP but I hear so much conflicting information about different games... here are some examples
- Vanguard is pve and crafting - Warhammer is huge fail - Darkfall same as Warhammer - LOTRO is mostly pve - Fallen Earth is First Person - Champions Online is action packed but very very unbalanced - WoW is .... ya well
so I can't think of many others out of the otp of my head, there's always DotA (or HON) or FPS, but I really enjoy the RPG part of pvp also
So for you, and not necessarily from the list I provided above, which is the most PvP oriented MMORPG (and is not a total failure)? Cheers,
edit : from answers to this thread - Eve - your a spaces ship (no thanks)
- World War II Online - fps (no thanks, unless all else fails)
- Dark Fall- (no thanks very bad review from friends who played it)
- Team Fortress 2 - checking now --> FPS (no thanks)
- Planet Side -> fps (and in robots) no thanks
- Guild Wars - movement is the same as DotA but in full 3D... if I want DotA I'll play DotA for free on my TFT game from 2004 O_O
please if anyone can suggest something cool?
ignorrant t*at. darkfall like warhammer? not even close! darkfall is centered around pvp and the dynamics that influence pvp battles and sieges. warhammer most usually uses instanced pvp zones... they are totally different, not even to speak of gameplay! those bad friends of you that played probably didn't even want to try to learn it, it has a steep learning curve, like most of the people. im no fanboi of darkfall i don't even play it anymore, but comparing it to warhammer is like comparing a frog to an asteroid field.
I play AOC to and enjoy the game for the pve, but the pvp is lacking, I resubbed to DAOC and they are plenty of people around, They are 3 realms with different classes, The graphics in my opinion are better than Darkfall, you can level fast, so you can get to the good pvp, The game is now free with all the expansion, Having plenty of fun playing it and you probably would to.
I play AOC to and enjoy the game for the pve, but the pvp is lacking, I resubbed to DAOC and they are plenty of people around, They are 3 realms with different classes, The graphics in my opinion are better than Darkfall, you can level fast, so you can get to the good pvp, The game is now free with all the expansion, Having plenty of fun playing it and you probably would to.
I resubbed to DAOC and it was dead dead dead, hence why they have been merging servers for the last couple of years... DAOC was great in its time but that time has now passed. Darkfall is the new premier PVP MMO for now. Also saying DAOC has better graphics than DF is pretty insane... something tells me you've never played Darkfall, lol.
Helloes, I am very dissapointed in AoC and am actively looking for another MMORPG to play. However, AoC set the standard pretty high with the combat system (personal opinion of course) and I could not go to a game where you point and click. Priority is PvP but I hear so much conflicting information about different games... here are some examples
- Vanguard is pve and crafting - Warhammer is huge fail - Darkfall same as Warhammer - LOTRO is mostly pve - Fallen Earth is First Person - Champions Online is action packed but very very unbalanced - WoW is .... ya well
so I can't think of many others out of the otp of my head, there's always DotA (or HON) or FPS, but I really enjoy the RPG part of pvp also
So for you, and not necessarily from the list I provided above, which is the most PvP oriented MMORPG (and is not a total failure)? Cheers,
Try this game: Scorn Land of Strife
I feel pretty much as you do about the games you listed.
Okay, then maybe try The Chronicles of Spellborn - PvP server.
It has PvP 'lakes'. I like the PvP there in that you don't have to PvP even in PvP areas.
A couple of nights ago I was in a PvE/PvP area and met another player that was from another house - we could have fought - but we decided to work together.
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OP did not specify hardcore PvP as a requirement and also did not want total failures and I would say Darkfall falls into that category.
Besides, the PvP combat in Darfkall is horrendously clunky and the game has a terrible UI. So I would certainly not consider that game a good PvP game.
My summation:
Eve = Hardcore PvP but the PvP is not readily available. Space is big and it is hard to track down and kill people. Most fights are unbalanced. Joining a 0.0 corp is a way to access PvP but there is no telling how often wars happen. Even so, I would say Eve is the best hardcore PvP game available.
WAR = Casual PvP which is very readily available. You can join scenarios anywhere and it gives you good exp so you can level just by doing PvP. However there really isnt much else, good, PvP besides scenarios. End game PvP is garbage, or atleast was when I played 4-5 months ago. But still the game is the best casual PvP MMORPG around.
Aion = Casual PvP which is not readily available. Kinda like WAR but without the scenarios that makes the PvP readily available for everyone, everywhere. PvE is better than WAR though and so is the gfx.
Guildwars = Not an MMORPG.
Darkfall = Hardcore PvP which is not readily available (unless you enjoy ganking noobs) but also bad game. Gfx, UI, combat mechanics, exploits is all bad in this game. So OP I would stay well clear of that game if I was you.
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I thought about Guild Wards, but having never played it but following it "from far", I saw many expansions come out...
How does that work, I need to buy like 5 expansions to play it now?
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.
Try looking at some of the smaller titles if you want PvP only...
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Myth Of Soma had my most favoured PvP simple but so enjoyable :P
have to say i doubt its still around tho
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There is only one expansion and it's purely optional. The other 3 parts to the game are campaigns which are stand alone. If all you wanted to do is pvp then just buy the original game and get the pvp pack (gives you elite skills and such for pvp characters only). You can pvp right after installation. It isn't a mmorpg in the traditional sense but outside an FPS or RTS it is the most balanced competitive online pvp game available.
I also suggest Darkfall. That is if you enjoy meaningful pvp in a huge open word. If not then I suggest you try something with instances/battlegrounds and safe zones.
if you're looking for competitive PvP, nothing comes close to Guild Wars.
However, it's more like diablo with PvP-focus than an actual MMO.
Guild Wars 2 will be a real MMO, so that one is the winner for me.
But If you're looking for sandbox / world PvP, i guess EVE would be a better choice.
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I downloaded Eve, got the free trial, but during the tutorial, thought "fuck this lol I don't want to be a space ship" :XD
I'm not dis resepcting that game fo course, it's a matter of personal taste.
gona check Guild Wars for free trials
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.
You are so wrong... you are not a space ship. You are the egg inside of the space ship with the flashing strobe light.
ok sorry mate, I didn't mean to offend you
but I still don't want to be an egg in a spaceship :XD
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.
ok, I lasted 2 minutes in Guild Wards ..
It's the same movement system as DotA except in full 3D (instead of fixed camera 3D)
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am I playing to much "hard to get", or is there no viable MMORPG with good pvp out there? 
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.
Well, I can't understand your obseesion for an Avatar, but you are not alone so EVE is planning on adding avatars in stations sometime in the future. (soon they say, always soon)
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Check out Vendetta Online for a space sim with great PvP. None of that, "roll the dice stuff" it's all twitch combat. The game currently has a 21 Day Free Trial:
http://www.mmorpg.com/giveaways.cfm/offer/119/Vendetta-Online-21-Day-Free-Trial-Offer.html
Face of Mankind or Roma Victor is the most PvP focused MMORPG. They both are literally all teamwork to build alliances and gain power in your own faction, then duke it out in PvP. There's literally no PvE.
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After having played them all I think Darkfall is the clear winner for best PVP MMO at the moment. If you enjoy PVP the most you owe it to yourself to try it.
Actually , the best pvp game is DAOC, So if you have not tried it I suggest you do, And they are plenty of people for fun pvp.
ignorrant t*at. darkfall like warhammer? not even close! darkfall is centered around pvp and the dynamics that influence pvp battles and sieges. warhammer most usually uses instanced pvp zones... they are totally different, not even to speak of gameplay! those bad friends of you that played probably didn't even want to try to learn it, it has a steep learning curve, like most of the people. im no fanboi of darkfall i don't even play it anymore, but comparing it to warhammer is like comparing a frog to an asteroid field.
I play AOC to and enjoy the game for the pve, but the pvp is lacking, I resubbed to DAOC and they are plenty of people around, They are 3 realms with different classes, The graphics in my opinion are better than Darkfall, you can level fast, so you can get to the good pvp, The game is now free with all the expansion, Having plenty of fun playing it and you probably would to.
I resubbed to DAOC and it was dead dead dead, hence why they have been merging servers for the last couple of years... DAOC was great in its time but that time has now passed. Darkfall is the new premier PVP MMO for now. Also saying DAOC has better graphics than DF is pretty insane... something tells me you've never played Darkfall, lol.
If you don't care about graphics Ultima Online still has pretty decent PvP and by what you said it seems to be everything your looking for.
Try this game: Scorn Land of Strife
I feel pretty much as you do about the games you listed.
I sure wish there was a Shadowbane server running still.
That's what you're looking for.
Okay, then maybe try The Chronicles of Spellborn - PvP server.
It has PvP 'lakes'. I like the PvP there in that you don't have to PvP even in PvP areas.
A couple of nights ago I was in a PvE/PvP area and met another player that was from another house - we could have fought - but we decided to work together.
Anyway, it's free.
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