Asheron's Call was better than any game on that list and was actually quite innovative for its time. It was the first MMO that was truly massive and did not have zones. Had a very unique magic system and did not use typical fantasy creatures. And was very fast paced for a MMO...
It was 10x better than EQ ever was but launched after EQ so always lived in it's shadow.
Idiotic editors.
Regarding Darkfall.. I can't really understand how anyone would consider a fairly new MMO that already has next to no subscribers as being anything other than junk which is exactly what it is. There is nothing good about it. It's contentless, featureless, and poorly produced in almost every way possible which is I suppose is the reason why it has next to no subscribers??
I would have removed Sims, Darkfall, DDO. Would have added GW, AC, and DAOC. Also would have moved SWG down to 4 and eq/ultima up a spot.
SWG deserves no.2 because it is a major point in the history of MMO's. Possibly the biggest cock up in MMO history so it needs to be right up there tbh. GW Should of been on there though because it brought about a new level of no subscription MMO's.
Single most influential? jesus christ. WoW is one of the most generic games ever. They have a great marketing team with a lot of money that mmo companies never have. Thats it. They should be on the list for being a popular WESTERN title. They didnt do anything new or amazing.
*face palm* Single most influential? jesus christ. WoW is one of the most generic games ever. They have a great marketing team with a lot of money that mmo companies never have. Thats it. They should be on the list for being a popular WESTERN title. They didnt do anything new or amazing.
They also have one of if not the biggest fan base in gaming that goes back before WoW, with games such as the Warcraft, Diablo, and Starcraft.
Great article. The replies i see are simply rediculous. This isn't a top 10 mmos of all time. It's simply the top 10 mmo, "in his opinion", that have had noticeable influence on the genre. Rather it was positive or negative, or, if anyone could learn from the actions that game took in order to come into fruition. I could see if his thesis statement was lacking but it wasn't.
Love this article Jon, great job. I would say that City of Heroes deserves a slightly higher position on the chart in my opinion.. introducing a new genre AND having added incredible player created content has been something awesome to behold. After 5 years + of City of Heroes.. I would certainly put it a bit higher on your list! Great observation nonetheless.. keep up the great work!
I wonder if this list will change come say 2011? Will we be seeing Star Trek Online, Star Wars the Old Republic, Wizards101 or Aion on that list? I can only imagine...
Agree with most but Guild Wars and DAOC should have definitely been on the list. For all the Darkfall detractors - Darkfall is *still* the most discussed MMO on this forum for the past year, and continues to be the most active forum on the whole of mmorpg.com.
Agree with most but Guild Wars and DAOC should have definitely been on the list. For all the Darkfall detractors - Darkfall is *still* the most discussed MMO on this forum for the past year, and continues to be the most active forum on the whole of mmorpg.com.
Forumfall is not a qualifier for any list other than laughability
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
Great article. The replies i see are simply rediculous. This isn't a top 10 mmos of all time. It's simply the top 10 mmo, "in his opinion", that have had noticeable influence on the genre. Rather it was positive or negative, or, if anyone could learn from the actions that game took in order to come into fruition. I could see if his thesis statement was lacking but it wasn't.
Great article. The replies i see are simply rediculous. This isn't a top 10 mmos of all time. It's simply the top 10 mmo, "in his opinion", that have had noticeable influence on the genre. Rather it was positive or negative, or, if anyone could learn from the actions that game took in order to come into fruition. I could see if his thesis statement was lacking but it wasn't.
Ughh it was 4 in the morning when i typed that. The time on my post doesn't match my time on my computer. I never bothered to set it. Spelling errors dont apply after 2am. To answer your question, you are ridiculous. I spelled it right this time did you notice? Now go shoot yourself.
FFXI deserves to be on this list and AC.... Darkfall realy?
Yes, Darkfall.
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Originally posted by Sturmrabe How could you not mention Shadowbane? A persistent world, the FIRST real PvP MMO, and NO MMO SINCE has ever even touched what it was like to build a city in SB... for shame!
I must quote this for truth. Shadowbane (and its dedicated players) suffered hard to become what it was, and Darkfall will be lucky to endure the same or worse degringolade that it almost surely has coming-- or does it? -- much less to make, as Shadowbane did, an eventual comeback of sorts from that before dying out years later.
When I recall games I've played, it's content that was largely player-created from both SWG and Shadowbane that grips my memory in the same place as a favourite book (the kind I'd reread every few years) might. They must have been doing something right for a while, regardless of anything done wrong (and we all know there was plenty of that in each case).
I also remember the PvP as fun, whereas I don't remember WoW PvP at all, though I'm told I did some. (A great straight line if anyone wants to speculate on how someone could forget combat they were at the keyboard for. You're welcome.)
Judging by the lower standard it makes sense to use in rating "List articles", this was not bad but owes much to its capability of being argued with for the interest shown in these commentaries, I would guess. For a much better article on the same subject, it would serve as a first draft.
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Argh, Runescape and LOTRO are missing. Without Runescape none of these MMORPG's would exist. LOTRO has done something very remarkable, it passed WoW In popularity, which should make it number 1 in the list.
Argh, Runescape and LOTRO are missing. Without Runescape none of these MMORPG's would exist. LOTRO has done something very remarkable, it passed WoW In popularity, which should make it number 1 in the list.
No Lotro dident? WoW still has triple the subs and Lotro Online or WoW ... More people know about WoW
Argh, Runescape and LOTRO are missing. Without Runescape none of these MMORPG's would exist. LOTRO has done something very remarkable, it passed WoW In popularity, which should make it number 1 in the list.
No Lotro dident? WoW still has triple the subs and Lotro Online or WoW ... More people know about WoW
Much much more people know more about LOTR than WoW, which makes it also remarkable, because it has succeeded in both pleasing the fans of LOTR and the fans of MMORPG's. And the subs don't tell the whole story, it's the popularity. You can't say WoW is the most popular MMORPG because people just don't talk about it nowadays. But when LOTRO came out everyone forgot WoW and played LOTRO.
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AC!!! They forgot Asheron's Call!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TBJ
I would have removed Sims, Darkfall, DDO. Would have added GW, AC, and DAOC. Also would have moved SWG down to 4 and eq/ultima up a spot.
DAOC should have been on this list. Way more influential than many of the titles on the list
AC should definitely be on the list...
But none of you CHILDREN know crap about Shadowbane apparently, so you are all carebears...
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
Asheron's Call was better than any game on that list and was actually quite innovative for its time. It was the first MMO that was truly massive and did not have zones. Had a very unique magic system and did not use typical fantasy creatures. And was very fast paced for a MMO...
It was 10x better than EQ ever was but launched after EQ so always lived in it's shadow.
Idiotic editors.
Regarding Darkfall.. I can't really understand how anyone would consider a fairly new MMO that already has next to no subscribers as being anything other than junk which is exactly what it is. There is nothing good about it. It's contentless, featureless, and poorly produced in almost every way possible which is I suppose is the reason why it has next to no subscribers??
SWG deserves no.2 because it is a major point in the history of MMO's. Possibly the biggest cock up in MMO history so it needs to be right up there tbh. GW Should of been on there though because it brought about a new level of no subscription MMO's.
*face palm*
Single most influential? jesus christ. WoW is one of the most generic games ever. They have a great marketing team with a lot of money that mmo companies never have. Thats it. They should be on the list for being a popular WESTERN title. They didnt do anything new or amazing.
Everquest was one of the last games where to progress resonably fast you had to interact with other players.
Now even there you can hire npcs to group with you for x amount of gold.
They also have one of if not the biggest fan base in gaming that goes back before WoW, with games such as the Warcraft, Diablo, and Starcraft.
Great article. The replies i see are simply rediculous. This isn't a top 10 mmos of all time. It's simply the top 10 mmo, "in his opinion", that have had noticeable influence on the genre. Rather it was positive or negative, or, if anyone could learn from the actions that game took in order to come into fruition. I could see if his thesis statement was lacking but it wasn't.
Love this article Jon, great job. I would say that City of Heroes deserves a slightly higher position on the chart in my opinion.. introducing a new genre AND having added incredible player created content has been something awesome to behold. After 5 years + of City of Heroes.. I would certainly put it a bit higher on your list! Great observation nonetheless.. keep up the great work!
I wonder if this list will change come say 2011? Will we be seeing Star Trek Online, Star Wars the Old Republic, Wizards101 or Aion on that list? I can only imagine...
:-)
Agree with most but Guild Wars and DAOC should have definitely been on the list. For all the Darkfall detractors - Darkfall is *still* the most discussed MMO on this forum for the past year, and continues to be the most active forum on the whole of mmorpg.com.
Forumfall is not a qualifier for any list other than laughability
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
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Just sayin, Broseph...who's ridiculous now?
Totally agree, it seems to be an opinion top 10 not historic
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Just sayin, Broseph...who's ridiculous now?
Ughh it was 4 in the morning when i typed that. The time on my post doesn't match my time on my computer. I never bothered to set it. Spelling errors dont apply after 2am. To answer your question, you are ridiculous. I spelled it right this time did you notice? Now go shoot yourself.
FFXI deserves to be on this list and AC.... Darkfall realy?
Lvl 75 Black Mage/White Mage ffxi
Lvl 80 Druid WoW
Lvl 34 Ranger Aion
i agree. i think it is only on there because the time it took to come out and everything else.
Yes, Darkfall.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
FFxi is not really worthy of more than a footnote, but Dorkfail isn't much more than a footnote either...
Of all that is written, I love only what a person has written with his own blood. -Nietzsche
I must quote this for truth. Shadowbane (and its dedicated players) suffered hard to become what it was, and Darkfall will be lucky to endure the same or worse degringolade that it almost surely has coming-- or does it? -- much less to make, as Shadowbane did, an eventual comeback of sorts from that before dying out years later.
When I recall games I've played, it's content that was largely player-created from both SWG and Shadowbane that grips my memory in the same place as a favourite book (the kind I'd reread every few years) might. They must have been doing something right for a while, regardless of anything done wrong (and we all know there was plenty of that in each case).
I also remember the PvP as fun, whereas I don't remember WoW PvP at all, though I'm told I did some. (A great straight line if anyone wants to speculate on how someone could forget combat they were at the keyboard for. You're welcome.)
Judging by the lower standard it makes sense to use in rating "List articles", this was not bad but owes much to its capability of being argued with for the interest shown in these commentaries, I would guess. For a much better article on the same subject, it would serve as a first draft.
«Si oblitus fuero usque ad finem omnia opera eorum»
Yes, Darkfall.
Well, I gusse this isent "Top 10 MMOs" Soo I gusse it should go down in history as the most bug ridden P2P out there!
Lvl 75 Black Mage/White Mage ffxi
Lvl 80 Druid WoW
Lvl 34 Ranger Aion
Argh, Runescape and LOTRO are missing. Without Runescape none of these MMORPG's would exist. LOTRO has done something very remarkable, it passed WoW In popularity, which should make it number 1 in the list.
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No Lotro dident? WoW still has triple the subs and Lotro Online or WoW ... More people know about WoW
Lvl 75 Black Mage/White Mage ffxi
Lvl 80 Druid WoW
Lvl 34 Ranger Aion
No Lotro dident? WoW still has triple the subs and Lotro Online or WoW ... More people know about WoW
Much much more people know more about LOTR than WoW, which makes it also remarkable, because it has succeeded in both pleasing the fans of LOTR and the fans of MMORPG's. And the subs don't tell the whole story, it's the popularity. You can't say WoW is the most popular MMORPG because people just don't talk about it nowadays. But when LOTRO came out everyone forgot WoW and played LOTRO.
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