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The Truth About Aeria Games and Last Chaos - by a former GameSage
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Lol, drbaltizar telling someone to learn to speak English...
0.0 That was the funniest damned thing I've ever seen typed in this forum, EVER!
"There is only one thing of which I am certain, and that's nothing is certain."
Haha u all funny dont assume....
Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"
Wow. This thread is still going? No matter, I'm just gonna say now that this is the direction this thread went in.
Seriously wtf.
"IRL is a pretty upstanding MMO with thousands of classes, a lot of PvP and even some pretty unique emotes and titles you can acquire. Explore that world first, then we'll talk about this virtual one."
omg thats epic, i have never seen that before!
AHHHHNOLD took over. xD
Check out the MUD I'm making!
Reminds me of the commercial that was in Mr. Baseball... wow
www.youtube.com/watch
"There is only one thing of which I am certain, and that's nothing is certain."
Actually, I have to disagree with you there. That's where the thread STARTED from. It's all been downhill from there.
Actually, I have to disagree with you there. That's where the thread STARTED from. It's all been downhill from there.
Touché my good sir. Touché
"IRL is a pretty upstanding MMO with thousands of classes, a lot of PvP and even some pretty unique emotes and titles you can acquire. Explore that world first, then we'll talk about this virtual one."
Wow so a f2p game company's corrupt? Who would've ever thunk it? Also what the hell's this RT you were talking about. You took it iguess that we all knew what the hell this was. I can assure that it's not a standard term. Also do you honestly thing that posting all that here's going to change much of anything? GAla-net has an F rating with the BBB and they're still alive. So corruption is how it goes. Also they're a free to play game company. They're whole job is to cut corners as much as possible and milk everyone for all they're worth. This "game sage" job is basically just their way of not having to pay for gms. So obviously if they ban you woopdy doo... no surprise there. Company's don't like bad PR. It'd be like me going into the gala-net forums and talking about how bad their customer service was. Yes i'd be ip banned all of my posts would be deleted.
This is no real news. And honestly it doesn't surprise me. That group you made won't help either, until they're gone forever, it's not going to change. They still have a ton of games with people paying for them all the time. Hell evne gala's got enough money to throw around to be able to keep publishing new games. So no surprise, no big deal to me. Enjoy your hate speech and attempt to take them down b/c it'll surely fail. They have millions of dollars and all you got is maybe some ability to run a site.
What I don't understand after reading the various groups and posts on this;
Only now that someone lost their job do your friends admit there was wrong doing at the hands of Aeria?
Your friend acknowledges that they knew about hacking, paying off CGFs with AP, knew about players getting hacked but did not divulge such ghastly information until this the very last straw?
That seems a bit sanctimonious
"There is a certain undeniable power in the void; within lies an unspoken promise of greatness, the shadowy truth that man is ruled by fear not of what is seen, but of what he perceives is seen beyond."
This topic was an interesting read.
Good thing you learned something about life without losing a bunch of money.
Well shave my back and call me an elf! -- Oghren
Way To Go GIRL, I started hating last chaos Over a year ago. I spent over $300 USD in cash on the damn game too. Areia Games Has started sucking recently, and I read your whole post. Their company is going down the drain, and as long as he is there my opinion will stay the same.
I have been treated the same way, and worse in the online community of some games, Like SecondLife, with Hackers, and lots of botters, as well as two other game servers that no longer exist.
As for Filing BBB Reports, Everyone DO IT if you have been Treated wrongly in the game, or even if you haven't go play it, and Find some lame excuse just to report Aeria games to the BBB.ORG it will piss them off lol
Hi there I've played Aeria's most popular recent MMO Shaiya for a long time, stopped about 4 months ago, im curious if this Project manager represents the Shaiya section of Aeria or if it's completely different, because shaiya for me is a great game, fantastic community GM's seem friendly, GS's friendly. So im guessing this corruption hasn't been passed on to Shaiya thank god. But LC is a no go for me, if the Project Manager doesn't show respect for his/her staff, no way in hell (s)he will respect the gamers unless as said previous they hand VISA written across their forehead. I give you a thumbs up and a pat on the back to post this and reveal the Aeria's: Last Chaos true colours! You got my support!
That's one huge overreaction. Literally.
You're taking it far too personally for this to be a matter of truth. All in all, the dramatic original post was entertaining, but only as truthful as entertainment could be.
@abentwookie
Yeah, it's crappy what happened, but let's be real... all F2P games are crap! Yes, everyone can reply saying F2P MMO A, B, C...Z is great but sorry, they aren't.
If they don't generate income from a regular monthly subscription they have to go get somewhere else, who pays for the server rentals? who pays the developers? and so on... They're all about making money, and I'll be damned if I was paying thousands of dollars for some virtual items (I can't say this without laughing so hard my lungs feel like they're gonna explode) I would expect to have some sort of privilege over players who don't pay jack. I'm sorry, but that's the way the world works... If I pay more that makes me a better customer (in their eyes) than someone who pays less or nothing at all, If I'm a better customer I deserve better treatment... this isn't exclusive to Games, it's called the economy. (not trying to be sarcastic... but I'm also an idealist myself... and sometimes you have to realize some battles are just impossible to win)
Regarding one example you stated as a F2P MMO that isn't like LC, Perfect World... I'm sorry but if you haven't seen the same crap happening there then you haven't played enough time... I sure did and believe me it's not great, the big item mall shoppers get a lot of "special treatment".
Bad rating on a company also means nothing to me... NCSoft is rated F and I'm playing Lineage2 since the Beta, I played Aion in the CB, OB and 2 months of sub. And when GuildWars2 comes out I'm seriously thinking on buying it... so they can say it's the worst MMO company... I don't give a crap... some of their products are good (imo ofcourse) so I'll keep giving them my money. Same thing with Aeria, the only way they could go down is if what happened to you and your friends happened to regular players on all their MMOs everyday... that isn't the case I guess?
@johnmatthais
Man, you reached incredible levels of douchness... who are you to say that she can't reply or she has to stop... you're basically as whiny as you're stating her to be. And you're really making yourself look as bad as that ks guy she was ranting about. I'm sure your gonna reply... "ohhh yeah, well I don't give a crap what people think of me... I say things as they are", yeah that's what all idiots say so they look real badass.... *sigh*, read a book or two on arguing skills 'cause you sure need them.
TU2 Closed Beta Testing... looking very good so far
I gotta go with this response, too.
From reading through that big ol' wall of text, the impression I got was that all these GameSage guys were well aware that all this dodgy stuff was going on, but the only time that they actually decided to do the right thing was when they themselves started to feel the pain of it.
I'd have some healthy respect for someone who went public when they found about all this hacking and corruption, but failing to do so until after you've been banned?
Kinda takes the whole "righteous indignation" away, from my perspective.
Don't get me wrong .. these Aeria Games guys do seem like tossers, but the GameSages hardly seem to be shimmering images of angelic purity either.
Playing: EVE, Final Fantasy 13, Uncharted 2, Need for Speed: Shift
I was never really keen to try any game from AG ..but this post has just ensured I never will
So I think the Op has succeeded in making sure at least one person doesn't support the company
From the Ops post I find the way AG has dealt with staff to be reprehensible and unacceptable and on principle I won't support any company like that
"after the time of dice came the day of mice "
I usually try to avoid Aeria Games threads... but I will throw out some generic remarks.
1. Spamming a site with insults to the staff, and the community will most likely result in a ban... it doesnt matter what your reason is, it generally is not allowed.
2. Telling other community members that it is ok to break the rules (for any reason) will most likely result in a ban.... it doesnt matter what your reason is, it is generally not allowed.
There have been many statements made about the staff, and how things work in Aeria Games... but no one has really asked. Heck, I am even seeing people go off and trash people who have not been in Aeria Games for a long while...
As for corruption issues... well, just like any conspiracy, it is not that people plot to do wrong, it is that people dont know what is going on, and it appears that many people are coming forward to say that they knew about problems... but didnt tell anyone. So, the only clear conspiracy is that being shown by the people that are complaining...
I agree that the truth is out there... and that it is pretty easy to find... but that it isnt exactly what you are claiming it to be...
Moral of this story is:
The amount of work you do and rewards you get, are proportional to the amount of ass you kiss.
"There is only one thing of which I am certain, and that's nothing is certain."
What does it say about you??? You were willing to take AP to keep there little secret to yourself as all of the GS do.
Now that they ban you now you want to get all hoiler then now and go on a rampage about AG.
You helped build it now you live with it...
Assassin's like to do it in the dark and from behind.
Originally posted by Superman0X
I usually try to avoid Aeria Games threads... but I will throw out some generic remarks.
1. Spamming a site with insults to the staff, and the community will most likely result in a ban... it doesnt matter what your reason is, it generally is not allowed.
2. Telling other community members that it is ok to break the rules (for any reason) will most likely result in a ban.... it doesnt matter what your reason is, it is generally not allowed.
There have been many statements made about the staff, and how things work in Aeria Games... but no one has really asked. Heck, I am even seeing people go off and trash people who have not been in Aeria Games for a long while...
As for corruption issues... well, just like any conspiracy, it is not that people plot to do wrong, it is that people dont know what is going on, and it appears that many people are coming forward to say that they knew about problems... but didnt tell anyone. So, the only clear conspiracy is that being shown by the people that are complaining...
I agree that the truth is out there... and that it is pretty easy to find... but that it isnt exactly what you are claiming it to be...
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Wow did I call it or what..lol what a tool.
Guess your plan for free labor didn't isn't going as smoothly as planned. Well you know the old saying, you get what you pay for. You guys abuse your players and abuse your free labor, you didn't think there was going to be a backlash. You sit up there in San Jose with your smug attitude letting assholes run wild while taking a shit on anyone who speaks out. You and your company get everything you deserve. I know your answer is to just ban everyone(which I also called again because you are so easy to read) but you won't learn your lesson and just repeat the same mistakes over and over again.
Also don't you think it's time to let everyone know you are an Aeria shill when you post? I mean you come on like some random fan, but you keep trying to push your company's agenda in certain posts. Might as well be honest about so people don't get pissed when they find out what your position is with Aeria games. At the very least you should say that you are currently involved in the MMO industry so that your posts reflect your perspective/bias.
Oh well I had a good laugh from this thread at you and your comapny's expense. You'll wipe the slate clean by getting rid of these people that spoke up and move on(also lol for banning people that post on outside boards, ow petty can you get?), but you won't stop them from saying what's going on and hoopefully that will encourage people to avoid Aeria games like the plague. Since you aren't going to learn respect for the players you try and squeeze money out of every day, this solution seems much more fitting. Wonder if you'll get so bad where you'll have to schedule emergency meetings like Nexon did begging people to come back and not use private servers, honestly I don't see that day too far off for you guys. But wait, I guess you guys would rather have meetings on switching some of your games to hybrid so you can grab money up front and never have to deal with customer service issues right?
Also if any other Aeria or former Aeria employees/players/ free labor want to psost here, I would love to see this keep going. Busting this guy's chops always turns my frown upside down'
All I got out of that entire wall of text was:
A above water version of a iceberg story
You're only telling the masses what you want them to hear. So you made some comments or protested some injustice with AG over what a new PM said about you and got demoted from your free meal ticket. And so you say you walked away (with no ill-will) to be on your merry way.
Then out of the blue this guy cans a messiah of a GM (cause the community says so) for being a little too close to the community (without divulging into what exactly he did). And in order for us to actually believe that, we would either have to ask ourselves: Is the canned GM offering a candid version of his removal or are you filtering what you are hearing because of the previous chip on your shoulder. I have to know full disclosure of a few things before I jump on any bandwagon:
That GM was a PAID employee of AG and lost his job for something other than just because he was well liked. If being a GM is anything like being security personnel, then he would know that there is a fine line between customer support and fraternization. The first involves knowing your limits and sticking with them. And the other is knowing your limits and crossing the line from time to time to appear empathetic to your customers (whether to garner positive feedback for services rendered or buff up that image for top brass).
We don't know. But what I did take from your continuous bullish tactics is that YOU were capable of making lives of anyone who crossed you a living hell (by your own admission). I don't know if you used these tactics on the customers you served but I do know that they were there long before you became a GS and apparently well after. You know there is a old saying that I carry with me to remind myself of the ease of abusing my authority:
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."~Abraham Lincoln
I believe that test came to you and instead of walking away, you got your friends involved and got them either fired, demoted or banned as well. You knew the game and you dealt the cards. But while most of us know that the house is one thing you never bet against, you thought you could take it simply from the speck of power they once gave you.......well played....
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Well, if you worked for virtual items, you probably couldn't afford a P2P game either!
Sheesh. Look at it from the OP's point of view. See above marked in yellow..
If i was a girl,I probably make more cash in one night then you can all week..I dont think money is the issue with her to buy a game or not or afford a P2P..
So, you're calling her a lady of the night?
That's a little harsh.
Anyone who takes Ap for free and told to be quiet about the dirty secrets behind the closed door...Then come out later because something wasnt right..I would say 2 wrongs dont make a right...
Everyone has a price even you...
Some people rob you at gun point..Others will rob you at "Ball Point Pen"
I'm personally hoping to see the other side of the coin.
"There is only one thing of which I am certain, and that's nothing is certain."
Meh I though LC was a piece of crap of a game anyway, prob be better if the game goes bye bye. But the stuff they pulled with people who worked/voulnteered for them is fairly unfair.