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Alienshroom
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Hello, im looking for something different and time consumeing to play. I know Aions flaws. Im wondering before I invest a load of time into if you guys think this game is a flop and or going downhill?
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it's not doing too bad, but I would thoroughly research what the game is all about before jumping in.
the western dev team has done quite a bit to make things less grindy, but it isnt enough so far.
I dont care if a game takes a long time to level so long as just playing the game is enjoyable. Leveling should be a by-product of having fun, not the other way around.
It doesn't have as many subs as it did when it launched but there are still plenty of people on my server and I doubt the game is going anywhere.
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a game has to be doing really awful for ncsoft to shut it down.
I mean they still have Lineage and Lineage 2 running. I honestly think they shut down TR just to spite Garriott .
a game has to be doing really awful for ncsoft to shut it down.
I mean they still have Lineage and Lineage 2 running. I honestly think they shut down TR just to spite Garriott .
Lets see Auto Assault,TR,Dungeons Runners most recently seems like I am forgetting one also.
Lets see Auto Assault,TR,Dungeons Runners most recently seems like I am forgetting one also.
TR was the only "AAA" title in that group, and I wouldn't doubt if what Ravancal is saying is true. DR was a very simple game running on a F2P model, and AA was a stupid concept imo. It's like Carmageddon and Twisted Metal had a redheaded stepchild. Both games are fun unto themselves, but wouldn't make good MMO concepts imho.
Anyhow, to answer the OP's question, I'm on Siel, and I see tons of players, even in the low level areas. The LFG channel is always busy with players looking to form groups for quests or run Fire Temple, etc. Like in most MMO's, your best bet is to always join a guild early on so you have a good group of peeps to always game with.
Game is going well. Number of subscribers keeps going up. I'm on Marchutan and have no issues getting groups any time of day or night. They keep adding servers as well to keep up with the population growth.
Fan sites:
AION-On-Line.com
aionicthoughts.wordpress.com/
www.aionarmory.com/
www.aionglobal.com/
www.aionsource.com/
www.areyouhellbound.com/forum/
www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/253
www.onrpg.com/
Official sites:
www.ncsoft.com/global/
www.aiononline.com/us/
eu.aiononline.com/en/
About the only thing I recall hearing was some dev companies I've been working with recently while shopping around game concepts was NCsoft withdrew some of their offers and stopped looking to fund new projects for the time being, in addition to internally consolidating some projects and moving staff, because their anticipated revenue was far less than they anticipated from Aion.
Does this mean Aion is doing badly? Not in and of itself. Just means it's doing no wheres near what NCsoft had hoped. Seems to be a bigger issue for other parts of the company than it implies for the game though. Aion is still one of the more successful games they currently have, and it's not going anywhere soon, because it's also their best chance for salvaging/building a player base as well.
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If NCsoft withdrew their offers for projects, and i'm saying if because anybody can say they work with dev companies, I doubt it has anything to do with Aion. The game has over 150 servers worldwide, I seriously doubt Aion is a dissapointment for NCsoft.
Game populations are fine... servers are all healthy.
If you know the flaws before hand, you've done your research. Aion is far from perfect but its currently (IMO) the best MMO on the market. I dont think its going anywhere - lots of people enjoy it (lots of people don't - the ones that don't are far more vocal about it). Anyways - your best bet is to give it a try and see what you think yourself. Give it to about 20-25 before making any decisions as thats when the game starts to open up. The "grind" starts from about 30 onwards for most people.... 40+ is very tough to level but I still have the fun factor as there is plenty to do. So at least for me personally - that keeps me entertained.
It'll be the only game I play before TOR - and even then we'll see... haven't been too impressed from what I've seen but Im such a star wars fan - I have to at least try it
Good luck!
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WoW isn't dying heh not by any measurement anyways. The whole China thing will eventually be figured out. Also Aion isn't dying but its not getting a whole lot bigger. Majority of the subs are asian which makes sense but its still a very healthy population on the western side.
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aion is doing above any other crappy mmo out there but lower then wow ofc youl find towns with people and main towns packed like wow people who say the game is dead are just people who think forums consist of 100% of the people playing mmos and since people like on this forum just troll games think its crap because of that but its the other way around actualy youl find more people in this game then youl do in any other mmo right now beside wow ofc
To be honest if they reintroduced 40 man raids the difficulty would return. The reason the content feels so much easier is because your doing it with 10-25 other people instead of 40. With a 40 man there were more people would could and usually did mess up. The fights back in the day weren't very well scripted with the exception of a few.
To be honest if they reintroduced 40 man raids the difficulty would return. The reason the content feels so much easier is because your doing it with 10-25 other people instead of 40. With a 40 man there were more people would could and usually did mess up. The fights back in the day weren't very well scripted with the exception of a few. It's sad how people on these forums treat eachother.
I completely agree with everything you just said..... especially the last line
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If NCsoft withdrew their offers for projects, and i'm saying if because anybody can say they work with dev companies, I doubt it has anything to do with Aion. The game has over 150 servers worldwide, I seriously doubt Aion is a dissapointment for NCsoft.
When the bulk of those servers are longer standing ones in asia from before the port elsewhere actually released, those are not part of the anticipated revenue I was referring to NCsoft banking on. They were anticipating retention in relation to the box sales to be higher, like it was in asia, but that didn't happen and the bulk of their anticipated long term revenue disappeared before they got more than the initial sale. That's a point of fact, not smoke I'm blowing out of my backside, I just mentioned he impact it had to the company plans and what other companies are feeling as a result.
As I said though, this doesn't really mean a whole lot for Aion, because it's still one of their most successful games at the moment. They will be doing as much as they can over the next couple years to keep it that way.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
To the OP:
The person you should be least listening to is a guy named "WowFan1996." I'm pretty sure the 1996 represents the year of his birth.
Try the game out yourself, and go in with an open mind. Judge the game on its own merits rather than preconceived and unrealistic expectations. While playing, ask yourself, am I having fun?
As for me, I have been playing Aion since September 22, 2009. I enjoy it immensely, but I do realize it's not for everyone. No game is for everyone. On my servier, Ariel Asmodian Side, it has a very healthy population with the main city Pandamonium always packed. There's never a lack of groups looking for members.
The people on this site are mainly those who are currently jumping from mmo to mmo. Aion was one of their stops. Vast majority of people who enjoy Aion are currently playing it, not posting about it.
Just try it out.... I could tell you it's the greatest game in the world and your experience would tell you otherwise. There's no right or wrong about liking games, it's just your own opinion and your subjective taste.
a game has to be doing really awful for ncsoft to shut it down.
I mean they still have Lineage and Lineage 2 running. I honestly think they shut down TR just to spite Garriott .
What do you mean ncsoft is very fast at shutting down games once they feel its not profitable.TR and AA had very little life span.Lineage 1 & 2 still has a huge following and subs espically in asia.
If NCsoft withdrew their offers for projects, and i'm saying if because anybody can say they work with dev companies, I doubt it has anything to do with Aion. The game has over 150 servers worldwide, I seriously doubt Aion is a dissapointment for NCsoft.
When the bulk of those servers are longer standing ones in asia from before the port elsewhere actually released, those are not part of the anticipated revenue I was referring to NCsoft banking on. They were anticipating retention in relation to the box sales to be higher, like it was in asia, but that didn't happen and the bulk of their anticipated long term revenue disappeared before they got more than the initial sale. That's a point of fact, not smoke I'm blowing out of my backside, I just mentioned he impact it had to the company plans and what other companies are feeling as a result.
As I said though, this doesn't really mean a whole lot for Aion, because it's still one of their most successful games at the moment. They will be doing as much as they can over the next couple years to keep it that way.
And you have any actual numbers to back this up? Probably not.
Seeing as they have yet to publish the 4Q report where some of the statistics will be showing up for the public, no I can't show you that. Can link you to their published ones though.
www.ncsoft.net/global/ir/quarterly.aspx
Where you will note operating profit went down 17% in 3Q in spite of continued sales, which was due to retention rates. Equity QoQ of -413% and YoY of -235%.
For 3Q, where they published the cost of advertising and box production, that's not bad and generally to be expected.
However, if you also listen to the audios, you'll hear some of the points I made mentioned, with 1Q being overall less profitable than expected. The launch of Aion is handled as a success overall, as it should be for that quarter. However, their income for other games remained leveled off, and Lineage, GW, and CoX took a hit on revenue, which negated a chunk of their income.
Instead of me sitting here interpreting everything for you, I'd rather you read it though, then read the 4Q report, so that you can rant at me claiming I'm twisting the facts.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
To be honest if they reintroduced 40 man raids the difficulty would return. The reason the content feels so much easier is because your doing it with 10-25 other people instead of 40. With a 40 man there were more people would could and usually did mess up. The fights back in the day weren't very well scripted with the exception of a few. But i do agree the WoWfan does bash aion without any credible evidence so feel free to trash him all you want. It's sad how people on these forums treat eachother.
Has very little to do with 40 man raids being taken out. That was actually not a bad idea, as getting 40 ppl to run a raid was extremely time consuming. They should have left some 40 man raids as options but not the bulk of the endgame.
WoW has been significantly dumbed down, just look at the classes being made more generic. Or, better yet, just consider how lavish & extensive the 5 mans were in original WoW versus even TBC. The game was simply harder at launch and prior to TBC, xp requirements, gold, faction grinding, group tactics (even in 5 mans), trash mobs, etc. The game definitely lost its appeal with the latest xpac for the older players while gaining significantly with the borderline retarded.
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Looking at Aion's server status, there's roughly 2000 players per faction for an average of 4K per server, 14x4000 = 56000, not bad for the amount of people logged on.
The biggest problem with Aion is that its grindy. Its grindy because there isn't anything to do but grind. You can try to go out to the Abyss at level 25 but you get your butt kicked since you end up running across higher levels all the time.
I would probably still be playing if thye had battle grounds or something for certain level ranges.
I'll have to agree with you, I left WoW shortly after the badge change, in patch.... 3.3 I believe?
To the OP: I am enjoying Aion thus far, I picked it up last week and have a character just entering the abyss. From what I've seen on the servers I've made characters on the cities aren't as packed as Dalaran (Sorry still got WoW on the brains) but are pretty decently populated. I haven't had a trouble finding groups so far. Hope to see you in the game.
sub is healthy on xfire its still number 2 in mmo list by a long shot
a game has to be doing really awful for ncsoft to shut it down.
I mean they still have Lineage and Lineage 2 running. I honestly think they shut down TR just to spite Garriott .
NCSOFT might keep a game going,but they are REALLY cheap on support.When i played L2 i joined only about 6-8 months after release and already i could never get a GM ,not even once.They release games and support them for a couple months then move resources to other or newer venues.Look at AION right now...remember the constant posting about botting and catching RMT/botters? that has quieted down a lot has it not?I bet they have quit the bot/RMT cherade,it is probably open season for them now.
BTW they did not can TR out of spite,they did it on purpose to save 20 million contract agreement up front to Mr.Garriot and if i am not mistaken,there was also some sort of guarantee deal to contract his brother as well.
If the OP paid attention to the Aion crowd/fanbois you would have heard a lot about GRIND.First of all that tells you the type of players you are dealing with,not real gamers,just people looking to hurry to end game PVP.Secondly that SHOULD tell you the game is not fun to play as leveling goes,other wise the term"GRIND" would NEVER crop up.
Soooo if the OP does not care about the MAIN part of the game and is just looking for end game PVP ,then i guess he/she should be happy and content to get there and hang with same like minded players.
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