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EVE Online: 2009 Game of the Year

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  • SkeltemSkeltem Member Posts: 68

    Gongrats to my favourite game for 4 years and running.

     GG EVE Online

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  • JhughesyJhughesy Member Posts: 419

    Congrats to Eve online. Best game by far.

  • thexratedthexrated Member UncommonPosts: 1,368

    Well deserved. The only true "MMO" I have played and getting better each patch. 

    "The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."

  • pauldriverpauldriver Member Posts: 198

    Gratz CCP.

    Jam is sticky.

  • drago_pldrago_pl Member Posts: 384


    Originally posted by Zorndorf
    Originally posted by Woopin I think this is well deserved.
    Each patch brings people back or new people, EvE is one of very few MMO's that subs grow and grow over time. It the playerbase is growing all the time CCP are doing something right maybe other people in the MMO industry need to take a step back and see how CCP handles things.
    In fact I can only think of EvE for subs growing over time and not going down.

     
    So a blue post which uses ... subs to justify EVE (with 300K subs) won the award over WOW with over 11 million subs.
    OK : so we take the western subs only (without Korea, Taiwan, trembling Chinese fans, etc...)
    That's still 5 to 6 million of western players VOTING with their hard earned MONTHLY pocket money over peanuts.
     
    Subcriptions are the PAID votes of MMORPG's boys. You simply can't IGNORE them (as this same blue poster even mentions ...)
    LESSONS learned: MMORPG.COM can IGNORE paid subs for NOT wanting to grant the title to WOW, but CLEARLY they can be included to justify the GREAT gaming value of EVE.
    Hypocrits.
    PAID subsciptions have to be EARNED every day.



    Then Farmwille with 60 millions of people playing is best mmorpg Evar! Shut up with WoW subs numbers. They are only that high because it's so easy game every 10yo and retard can play it.
  • daeandordaeandor Member UncommonPosts: 2,695

    I never could wrap myself into EVE for more than about 4 months at a time.  Yeah, I have a toon with something like 30 million sps and was fun to mess around with, but really the most fun I had in EVE was as a newb messing around trying to get around in null-sec space.  Even when I have made new toons to do that, it isn't any fun anymore as the population has become so high that in order to get into 0.0 you have to know what you are doing.  Sure, it's easy, but if I were a true newb I'd never make it to the places I used to go.

     

    Oh, have they gotten rid of the Local chat yet?  Because that would make things a little more exciting again.

  • MalcanisMalcanis Member UncommonPosts: 3,297
    Originally posted by Zorndorf

    Originally posted by Woopin


    I think this is well deserved.
    Each patch brings people back or new people, EvE is one of very few MMO's that subs grow and grow over time. It the playerbase is growing all the time CCP are doing something right maybe other people in the MMO industry need to take a step back and see how CCP handles things.
    In fact I can only think of EvE for subs growing over time and not going down.



     

    So a blue post which uses ... subs to justify EVE (with 300K subs) won the award over WOW with over 11 million subs.

    OK : so we take the western subs only (without Korea, Taiwan, trembling Chinese fans, etc...)

    That's still 5 to 6 million of western players VOTING with their hard earned MONTHLY pocket money over peanuts.

     

    Subcriptions are the PAID votes of MMORPG's boys. You simply can't IGNORE them (as this same blue poster even mentions ...)

    LESSONS learned: MMORPG.COM can IGNORE paid subs for NOT wanting to grant the title to WOW, but CLEARLY they can be included to justify the GREAT gaming value of EVE.

    Hypocrits.

    PAID subsciptions have to be EARNED every day.



     

    Yeah yeah we get it, you love WoW and you can't believe that anyone would honestly choose another game. So therefore they must be dishonest :eyeroll:

    Seriously man, it's just about OK for someone to love a game, but you seem to be in love with WoW. Take a step back for the love of god.

    Give me liberty or give me lasers

  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039
    Originally posted by Noan


    I wonder how can it be that game having 270 000 of subscribers at the beginning, then raising it to 10 000 000+ can't be the best?
     

     

    All this time that I been reading and posting on MMORPG.com I have had the same question. With the amount of people playing WOW why is it not on top of this list? I can not recall even seeing it on the list.

    Educate me.

     

    Top Voted list.

     

    * Top Voted Games

    * Most Popular Games

     Released

    1. Atlantica Online
    2. Lord of the Rings Online
    3. EVE Online
    4. EverQuest II
    5. Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
    6. Guild Wars
    7. Ryzom

       

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  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by Orphes

    Originally posted by Noan


    I wonder how can it be that game having 270 000 of subscribers at the beginning, then raising it to 10 000 000+ can't be the best?
     

     

    All this time that I been reading and posting on MMORPG.com I have had the same question. With the amount of people playing WOW why is it not on top of this list? I can not recall even seeing it on the list.

    Educate me.

     

    Top Voted list.

     

    * Top Voted Games

    * Most Popular Games

     Released

    1. Atlantica Online
    2. Lord of the Rings Online
    3. EVE Online
    4. EverQuest II
    5. Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
    6. Guild Wars
    7. Ryzom

       

     

    People who are enjoying mmos have little reason to come here in search of information about what the next great mmo is going to be.  I would guess that the majority of people on this site are just generally unhappy with most the current selection of online games. 

    Also, many of the votes or reviews do not get counted after I think it is 6 months?  Few people actually take the time to update their negative review of a game, especially compared to the number of people out to "save" their mmo of choice through grass roots type efforts here.  It is funny how many 'best mmo on the market... that almost no one plays' actually make the list.  I remember auto assault being in the top 5 for a long time, even after it closed down.

     

    Personally I started to read the top voted list as what games have more people looking for a new mmo (some exceptions).  If you look at the popular list you see a totally different list of games that actually have activity.  You see a list dominated by games that are actually popular with mmo players and new releases.  It is a very stark contrast between the two lists. 

  • DynastyNYYDynastyNYY Member Posts: 2
    Originally posted by Liranan

    Originally posted by korvix

    Seeing as how 2 of the best corps I have been in have been ran by a FEMALE CEO..... wait what!?! Girls in space!?! why yes.
    I have around 20 people on my friends list....5 or so are females in RL. The game is Male dominated; so what? You looking to hook up in the MMOs you play?
    EVE is a pure PVP game, most women don't have what it takes....but the ones that do are some of the most ruthless people I know.
    o7

     

    Dianabolic will doomsday your face without thinking about it and she'll enjoy it too. The thing about females in EVE is that they like big toys and I know several in Motherships and Titans. There may not be many of them but they're as evil and ruthless as the rest.

     

    just an FYI...Dianabolic is a dude...

  • CyberWizCyberWiz Member UncommonPosts: 914
    Originally posted by daeandor


    I never could wrap myself into EVE for more than about 4 months at a time.  Yeah, I have a toon with something like 30 million sps and was fun to mess around with, but really the most fun I had in EVE was as a newb messing around trying to get around in null-sec space.  Even when I have made new toons to do that, it isn't any fun anymore as the population has become so high that in order to get into 0.0 you have to know what you are doing.  Sure, it's easy, but if I were a true newb I'd never make it to the places I used to go.
     
    Oh, have they gotten rid of the Local chat yet?  Because that would make things a little more exciting again.



     

    They did in wormhole space, you should check it out :p

     

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  • LeJohnLeJohn Member Posts: 313

    Oh My God,,, no this is too funny to just OMG it. This flashed across my email and I had to check as I was sure it was a misprint.



    MMORPG actually named EVE the best game of 2009,,, really?



    You do realize that this is one of the signs of the apocalypse

    OH,, wait, its MMORPG, come on ppl how many of you give your boss a cup that says boss of the year every year?

    You don't actually expect the ppl at MMORPG to actually try playing any other game do you.



    Oh and as I actually did read all the posts, exploring is part of the waiting. Launch a probe, wait.... wait... wait... nothing in the system move to the next and rinse and repeat.

    An yes I did play from beta to 2007 and did have 3 accounts because you had to back then. EVE is an OK game, not good, and not great but to seriously give it game of the year? OMG every other game,,, correction, every other MMORPG out must really be sucking because giving EVE the award is like naming TIMMY!!! The best athlete of the year….. of males in the special Olympics competing in a wheel chair.

    MMORPG.com...  thanks for the laff it maid my day, but I do beleave your 4 months too early with that announcement.

  • mklinicmklinic Member RarePosts: 2,014
    Originally posted by LeJohn




    Oh and as I actually did read all the posts, exploring is part of the waiting. Launch a probe, wait.... wait... wait... nothing in the system move to the next and rinse and repeat.

    Have you watched the recent exploration tutorial video? The longest you wait between actions is around 10sec unless you have skills which reduce the scan time. Then you need to move your probes to try to get a signal you can warp to. You know within one cycle whether there is anything there or whether you should move on. The whole thing is a process of constantly tweaking your probes to try to find the site (wh, archeology, hacking, etc).

    Personally, I don't see 10 sec qualifying as wait...wait...wait. It is more akin to a cooldown in any other mmo. Moving on can be related to gathering professions in other MMOs as well. I mean, you aren't going to find what you are looking for under every rock. Sometimes you need to venture out to find that ore, herb, or whatever it might be. Now, whether you find that fun or not is pretty irrelevant, however your characterization of the process is incorrect.

    Since the rest of your post is your opinion, there is not much to discuss aside from the fact you say you played up until 2007. This award is for GoTY 2009. I can't say what this site thought of the game in 2007, but the award is for the game in it's current state.

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  • HYPERI0NHYPERI0N Member Posts: 3,515
    Originally posted by tehikk


    This reward really doesn't belong to EVE, as EVE is a game where there is only three things to do. Kill, mine and wait for skills to go up You missed a few i think. Seriously, this game is all about waiting, it doesn't even have manual ship controls, how dumb is that? not as dumb as controlling a 1 km ship with twitch controlls rather than having crew and computers do it for you via orders.
    But I will say it's a beautiful game and I could spend just hours exploring space yea it is pretty, still, the rest is all a bunch of junk. Considering you have barely played past the trial andor never joined a decent corp[i know this due to your knoledge of the proffesions in eve] its not suprising you are feeling let down by eve.
    If you all disagree with me, stop and think, you decide to mine, you must wait to fill up your cargo hold. You try to kill something, target it, orbit around it, and shoot it, and wait for it to die once again you show the experience of a trial account newbie who has never joined a player run corp or progressed beyond the basic training stuff. You need to skill up, just wait and you'll skill up. This is a pretty good strength of eve.
    But I suppose if they add a feature which allows me to actually leave my ship and fight on land, I may consider playing it. Well there is walking in stations. no pvp but it does add more proffesions to eves already [over 20] large list of fluid proffesions. However if FPS style combat such as what you get in games like Unreal Tounament is your thing try out the upcomming game Dust 514 which is set in the EvE universe and has an actuall effect on EvE itself.

     

    Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981

  • mccoyymccoyy Member Posts: 80
    Originally posted by Daffid011


    I am not very surprised at the #1 pick (2003) and #2 pick (2004).   It really shows how bad the genre needs a few more decent games though. 
     
     
     

    This person is 100% correct.....grats EVE!

  • ZoobiZoobi Member UncommonPosts: 115


    Originally posted by Zlayer77

    A well deserved win for CCP and EVE..
    And for you haters out there...
    1. EVE is for Elite players
    2. EVE is for Hardcore players
    3. EVE is for people that like PVP
    4. EVE is not for children
    5. EVE is not for the Weak
    6. EVE is not for Girlymen
    7: EVE is not for Carebares
    As you can see EVE is not for you because you are not ELITE, HARDCORE or PVP players. You are Weak Carebares (and I think some of you are little Children) Girlymen have never had a place in EVE and they never will. Now just face the facts you are not good enough nor skilled enough to play this game. Everyone cant be a Badase some have to be the geeks,loosers and failures, to bad for you that you are hahahaha....
    Now go troll Kitty online forumes before we POD you...



    This post should be archived as vital reading to all who are considering eve as a hobby.

    Classic.

  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039
    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by Orphes

    Originally posted by Noan


    I wonder how can it be that game having 270 000 of subscribers at the beginning, then raising it to 10 000 000+ can't be the best?
     

     

    All this time that I been reading and posting on MMORPG.com I have had the same question. With the amount of people playing WOW why is it not on top of this list? I can not recall even seeing it on the list.

    Educate me.

     

    Top Voted list.

     

    * Top Voted Games

    * Most Popular Games

     Released

    1. Atlantica Online
    2. Lord of the Rings Online
    3. EVE Online
    4. EverQuest II
    5. Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
    6. Guild Wars
    7. Ryzom

       

     

    People who are enjoying mmos have little reason to come here in search of information about what the next great mmo is going to be.  I would guess that the majority of people on this site are just generally unhappy with most the current selection of online games. 

    Also, many of the votes or reviews do not get counted after I think it is 6 months?  Few people actually take the time to update their negative review of a game, especially compared to the number of people out to "save" their mmo of choice through grass roots type efforts here.  It is funny how many 'best mmo on the market... that almost no one plays' actually make the list.  I remember auto assault being in the top 5 for a long time, even after it closed down.

     I agree. But it's hard to explain. The share amount of people that are playing wow should at least be able to bring hte game up on list. Especially when reading the text I quoted.

    I'm believing that people play the game they find the most fun, there could many variables put into that. An even if those that plays the game are not here to vote, yet there are people voting on the game. And are fans, or new players, to wow so under-represented in this matter.

    Nvm actually, I just wanted to point out that the most played game is not the only game that can win a best game award.

    Personally I started to read the top voted list as what games have more people looking for a new mmo (some exceptions).  If you look at the popular list you see a totally different list of games that actually have activity.  You see a list dominated by games that are actually popular with mmo players and new releases.  It is a very stark contrast between the two lists. 

     

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,065
    Originally posted by Zlayer77


    A well deserved win for CCP and EVE..
    And for you haters out there...
    1. EVE is for Elite players who enjoy games that require serious thought and planning to succeed.

    2. EVE is for Hardcore players who want some risk in their gaming balanced against the rewards that you receive.

    3. EVE is for people that like PVP with the primary objective of winning the fight while not dying in the process.

    4. EVE is not for children as they lack the patience that this game requires in order to play it.

    5. EVE is not for the Weak who want the game mechanics changed to suit their preferred playstyle.

    6. EVE is not for Girlymen as very few girls play it. (this can be considered a good thing btw)

    7: EVE is not for Carebares who aren't willing to use their brains to figure out how to avoid getting killed while reaping huge rewards for very limited risk.
    Now go troll Kitty online forumes before we POD you... and we most definitely will POD you.

    Just a few corrections to your list.

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  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985
    Originally posted by Myria


    Wait... You picked Eve... EVE, over Fallen Earth?
     
    For GotY?
     
    Seriously?
     
    I mean, even Aion or CO I could understand... Sorta. But Eve?
     
    That's so mind bogglingly stupid I think it could quite possibly cause the universe to collapse in on itself in embarrassment.
     
    Out of curiosity, just how many years are you planning on picking Eve for "Game of the Year" before you just say to hell with it and rename the place MMOEve?



     

    EVE really is that good, and it's constantly improving. Aion? CO? Have you played those?

    I could see FE making the cut in a few years, but not now.

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  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by Orphes 
     I agree. But it's hard to explain. The share amount of people that are playing wow should at least be able to bring hte game up on list. Especially when reading the text I quoted.
    I'm believing that people play the game they find the most fun, there could many variables put into that. An even if those that plays the game are not here to vote, yet there are people voting on the game. And are fans, or new players, to wow so under-represented in this matter.
    Nvm actually, I just wanted to point out that the most played game is not the only game that can win a best game award.
     

     

    I agree that most played doesn't mean automatic winner of the best whatever award.  At the same time I'm sure it gets old watching games from 2003 and 2004 beating up on everything released the last few years.  

     

    I was just pointing out why I think this site is so dysfunctional in comparison to the rest of the mmo industry.   It is the home for lost mmo soulds that are angry at the state of the genre and wow being the leader attracts a lot of that negativity.

     

     

     

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Originally posted by Cecropia

    Originally posted by Myria


    Wait... You picked Eve... EVE, over Fallen Earth?
     
    For GotY?
     
    Seriously?
     
    I mean, even Aion or CO I could understand... Sorta. But Eve?
     
    That's so mind bogglingly stupid I think it could quite possibly cause the universe to collapse in on itself in embarrassment.
     
    Out of curiosity, just how many years are you planning on picking Eve for "Game of the Year" before you just say to hell with it and rename the place MMOEve?



     

    EVE really is that good, and it's constantly improving. Aion? CO? Have you played those?

    I could see FE making the cut in a few years, but not now.

    i can sort of see where he's coming from.. FE is looking pretty good to me at the moment, though i've only played it for a few hours so far, so although at the moment i would say Eve is the better game still, who knows, in the future.. FE might be a serious contender..

     

    not so sure about his other 'suggestions'  Aion.. .. doubtful.. not a bad game, but not that good either.. and CO.. i almost fell off my chair laughing.. so i kind of suspect he wasnt being entirely serious

  • RonjaNokuRonjaNoku Member CommonPosts: 47
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Originally posted by Zlayer77


    A well deserved win for CCP and EVE..
    And for you haters out there...
    1. EVE is for Elite players who enjoy games that require serious thought and planning to succeed.

    2. EVE is for Hardcore players who want some risk in their gaming balanced against the rewards that you receive.

    3. EVE is for people that like PVP with the primary objective of winning the fight while not dying in the process.

    4. EVE is not for children as they lack the patience that this game requires in order to play it.

    5. EVE is not for the Weak who want the game mechanics changed to suit their preferred playstyle.

    6. EVE is not for Girlymen as very few girls play it. (this can be considered a good thing btw)

    7: EVE is not for Carebares who aren't willing to use their brains to figure out how to avoid getting killed while reaping huge rewards for very limited risk.
    Now go troll Kitty online forumes before we POD you... and we most definitely will POD you.

    Just a few corrections to your list.

     

    I support this Rewrite & Explanation and QFT'd. That's probably the most accurate description of it I've seen so far. Well. Except for this http://awhisperinmyghost.com/pics/EvE/LearningCurve.jpg . Lol. That curve had to have been done before the new tutorial system. Everything is pretty much explained except for things you learn through exploration, experience and actually playing the game :D

  • PhelimReaghPhelimReagh Member UncommonPosts: 682

    I think EVE won because the editors know that this place is rife with EVE fanatics, who are always up in arms should anyone intimate the EVE isn't the greatest at everything since Jesus.

     

    I totally understand. Sometimes you just don't want the headache.

  • LirananLiranan Member Posts: 126
    Originally posted by DynastyNYY 
     
    just an FYI...Dianabolic is a dude...

     

    Hope she doesn't DD my face ;)

     

    MMO with the most subs should win? Farmville should be the winner then, all WoW nubs have permission to feel even more downtrodden now that their favourite MMO isn't even the most played.

  • NoanNoan Member Posts: 97
    Originally posted by Orphes

    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by Orphes

    Originally posted by Noan


    I wonder how can it be that game having 270 000 of subscribers at the beginning, then raising it to 10 000 000+ can't be the best?
     

     

    All this time that I been reading and posting on MMORPG.com I have had the same question. With the amount of people playing WOW why is it not on top of this list? I can not recall even seeing it on the list.

    Educate me.

     

    Top Voted list.

     

    * Top Voted Games

    * Most Popular Games

     Released

    1. Atlantica Online
    2. Lord of the Rings Online
    3. EVE Online
    4. EverQuest II
    5. Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
    6. Guild Wars
    7. Ryzom

       

     

    People who are enjoying mmos have little reason to come here in search of information about what the next great mmo is going to be.  I would guess that the majority of people on this site are just generally unhappy with most the current selection of online games. 

    Also, many of the votes or reviews do not get counted after I think it is 6 months?  Few people actually take the time to update their negative review of a game, especially compared to the number of people out to "save" their mmo of choice through grass roots type efforts here.  It is funny how many 'best mmo on the market... that almost no one plays' actually make the list.  I remember auto assault being in the top 5 for a long time, even after it closed down.

     I agree. But it's hard to explain. The share amount of people that are playing wow should at least be able to bring hte game up on list. Especially when reading the text I quoted.

    I'm believing that people play the game they find the most fun, there could many variables put into that. An even if those that plays the game are not here to vote, yet there are people voting on the game. And are fans, or new players, to wow so under-represented in this matter.

    Nvm actually, I just wanted to point out that the most played game is not the only game that can win a best game award.

    Personally I started to read the top voted list as what games have more people looking for a new mmo (some exceptions).  If you look at the popular list you see a totally different list of games that actually have activity.  You see a list dominated by games that are actually popular with mmo players and new releases.  It is a very stark contrast between the two lists. 

     

     

    I started to think, for myself, all of those MMORPG.com ratings are just excluding WoW because other games simply can't get close to it.

    You can't challenge someone on Formula 1 having a bicycle, that's how it is.

    Anyway if game is very unfriendly to the new players and also does not attract them, what's the point of making it? I just got bored playing it because there was no new people. Game felt healthy only when you come to Jita to trade some stuff.

    Also stopped playing because I found out you need 2 accounts to play since it will take years for you to tain all of those skills. And not only because of them.

     

    One more thing, I guess people that play WoW are just happy with it and don't come here to vote, it doesn't concern them. And I think it is right mmo players come here to find new info about relases and other stuff. IMHO EvE does not deserve such attention and "Game of the Year" thing.

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