Funny since these two races were available in open beta, but later removed due to "graphical issues". I wish graphical issues made me a couple bucks. MMORPG.com should really be journalistic and add an award for most shoddy business practices among MMO developers and/or publishers.
The main graphical issue being that their balance on their online statement wasn't increasing at the desired rate.
----- The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
Funny since these two races were available in open beta, but later removed due to "graphical issues". I wish graphical issues made me a couple bucks. MMORPG.com should really be journalistic and add an award for most shoddy business practices among MMO developers and/or publishers.
The main graphical issue being that their balance on their online statement wasn't increasing at the desired rate.
Just like they suddenly put a CAP on a NO CAP designed skill system at the end of Open Beta. Otherwise they couldn't start selling extra character slots and Respecs via the C-store as well.
lame... why would these races not be included in the full version people just paid for??. What a rip off. 49.00 US is no small fee. The game is nothing more than a "cash extraction software". Greed, not gameplay is the major design theme.
Very well stated. This is the sole reason why I refuse to play STO.
I will never play a Cryptic game. Their entire practice is pure greed. They know that they can milk every dollar from hardcore Star Trek fans. They spend too much on collectibles as is.
Originally posted by mrroboto40 Funny since these two races were available in open beta, but later removed due to "graphical issues". I wish graphical issues made me a couple bucks. MMORPG.com should really be journalistic and add an award for most shoddy business practices among MMO developers and/or publishers.
Is this true? Wow...just wow. Im an old gamer and watched Star Trek as a kid and well...I'm just sad this game turned out this way. Was hoping for better than a "free game" quality, money grab. Too bad, Nimoy. Good thing he doenst have the ability to feel.
Is this a good move for STO, it's anyone's guess. If they can get enough fans into the game that don't know any better this might work. My hope, they go down in flames. A message needs to be sent to MMO publishers, BOX+SUB+RMT = NO SALE. The only thing in the C-Store from launch should have been items such as character transfers, renames or slots. I just don't think this is a way to start a relationship with a customer.
What I gathered, this is not locking customers out of an entire faction, it's only a skin. I am also not sure, but some STO forum posters said these "skins" were already in the game but taken out because of graphic issues and were not told they would be sold back to them. I can't confirm that however as no one has posted a dev blog.
After reading CO's move to charge for an expansion that fills a much needed gap and now this I can't fathom anyone on MMORPG could be surprised by this news. Whether you agree with these business practices or not you must admit Cryptic is starting to develop quite a bad reputation. This is kind of a bummer, I was hoping EVE would get some worthwhile competition.
Is this a good move for STO, it's anyone's guess. If they can get enough fans into the game that don't know any better this might work. My hope, they go down in flames. A message needs to be sent to MMO publishers, BOX+SUB+RMT = NO SALE. The only thing in the C-Store from launch should have been items such as character transfers, renames or slots. I just don't think this is a way to start a relationship with a customer.
STO character renames are free and there is no need for character transfers as there is only one Universe in which all play. Additional character slots on the other hand will most propably be sold in C-Store.
On the other hand if they start selling character transfers from Federation faction to Klingon faction or reverse of that, then they start going deeply to stupid ideas. That should be implemented as something that you can play yourself into if this is really ever implemented.
It's the way of future games in the U.S. market, no big deal, to me it's a non issue, I don't have to use it, but more and more games are adding micro-transactions, they are a for profit company, they don't make these games for us out of the goodness of thier hearts, that would be nice...
It's the way of future games in the U.S. market, no big deal, to me it's a non issue, I don't have to use it, but more and more games are adding micro-transactions, they are a for profit company, they don't make these games for us out of the goodness of thier hearts, that would be nice...
Its only "the way of the future" if people let it be, nothing is set in stone, if people vote with their feet so to speak againest certain trends within the MMORPG genre then you will be suprised how fast it stops.
However all this requires people to make a long term descision about gaming and act apon it, sadly its easier to whinge and whine than to act, and also the tendencies for people en masse to behave like sheep, so as long as there is some grazing to be had in these RMT + monthly games people will go BAAAAaaaaa but shuffle along its shallow content, move onto the next "Thing" rinse and repeat, which is how this all started in the first place.
Edit..Actually I curse the F2P crowd, they have brought everything down to the lowest common denominator, these games all breed a sweatshop mentiality that then creates the sweatshop gold farmers and......Well before rant takes full flight of spit flecked shouted abuse, lets just say I dislike everything with a passion that one writer for this site keeps trying to say/push about inovation and fun from Asia.
Nothing personnel its a nice beard and sunglasses look, but I aint buying what your clearly selling. Only grind I enjoy is my coffee beans for 5 mins in the morning, was going say 3 mins with the wife but that be pampering to the lowest common denominator.....
Thing that bugs me about the "fan" reaction is that you DON'T HAVE TO buy these races to play the game. All you are paying for is a FEDERATION Klingon or Ferengi - not the right to play their faction but to play a Federation version. If you know Star Trek Lore then you would know these races are rarely Federation members. If you want to play one then there is a cost.
Frankly if you don't want to - DON'T BUY THEM! Play the game without them.
All mmo's have something they charge extra above the sub+retail box- in WoW you pay to change server or race; in COH you had to pay for extra character slots etc etc. it's hardly new in MMO's. Cryptic's mistake here was not announce in advance what was going to be in the C Store.
If the idea of paying extra for something stops you looking at a game good luck finding any game out there for you.
I am wondering about people that don't visit forums or official websites and then go to a game-store or anywhere they sell games and see the box and think SWEET a "Star Trek Online" game.
How much info is on the box about the game, might want to check this out later today when I go to the city....
Thing that bugs me about the "fan" reaction is that you DON'T HAVE TO buy these races to play the game. All you are paying for is a FEDERATION Klingon or Ferengi - not the right to play their faction but to play a Federation version. If you know Star Trek Lore then you would know these races are rarely Federation members. If you want to play one then there is a cost. Frankly if you don't want to - DON'T BUY THEM! Play the game without them. All mmo's have something they charge extra above the sub+retail box- in WoW you pay to change server or race; in COH you had to pay for extra character slots etc etc. it's hardly new in MMO's. Cryptic's mistake here was not announce in advance what was going to be in the C Store. If the idea of paying extra for something stops you looking at a game good luck finding any game out there for you.
Announce?? They flat out lied to their playerbase about it!
The 2 races were available during Closed Beta and were suddenly pulled from it, with the message that it was bugged and that it would be put back into the game later on.
Instead, it was just an excuse and they weren't bugged, as they just decided to put it in the C-store instead to squeeze out more cash from the players.
Just like they pulled the NO CAP idea last minute in Open Beta and put a CAP on their skill system. Just so they can sell extra char slots and later on respecs through their C-store as well. And this one was really bad, as they really tried to keep this under the rug and quiet! They haven't even updated their site yet. It's still saying that it's open! /facepalm
Cryptic has become so predictable. It's not even funny. More like crying, seeing how many naive fans continue to defend them with every last breath they have, because they are so desperate to have a Star Trek game. /Sigh
Disgraceful behaviour for a MMORPG website, that is hardly an article or news piece, it is entirely intended to hurt the game.
For example, did you know that two new races are available to players at the C-Store? Federation Klingon and Federation Ferengi can both be had for 240 and 80 Cryptic Points respectively
So what? You didn't comment on the game, or its launch, all you did was pick up that line and a picture of it and attempt to insult the reputation of the company.
No wonder this site has gone downhill in the recent years.
Your information presents itself without clarity and the lesser intellects could take it as meaning you have to pay for klingons.
Take it this way, Klingon pay to play federation is like a deterrent for people to crazyly and mindlessly PURCHASE STO ... and a FAST TRACK TO A SHITTY REPUTATION for them too...
Fixed!
I won't buy this junk, pay to play Borg and other races is just taking the **** in my opinion. Even if that weren't happening it's not even a bloody MMORPG! I mean it's like the red headed step child of Champions online and Guild wars but with a trek skin and subscription fee with a cash shop being run by Quark's mercenary brother!
This game is not only a perversion of the Star Trek name it's also a perversion of the MMORPG genre!
Gene Roddenberry is no doubt rolling in his grave right now,
Agricola.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
Disgraceful behaviour for a MMORPG website, that is hardly an article or news piece, it is entirely intended to hurt the game.
For example, did you know that two new races are available to players at the C-Store? Federation Klingon and Federation Ferengi can both be had for 240 and 80 Cryptic Points respectively
So what? You didn't comment on the game, or its launch, all you did was pick up that line and a picture of it and attempt to insult the reputation of the company. No wonder this site has gone downhill in the recent years. Your information presents itself without clarity and the lesser intellects could take it as meaning you have to pay for klingons. Which is not true at all.
You can take your blinders off now. Just to enlighten you, the company deserves the negative press, they are going to soak the playerbase for every cent they can because there is no depth to it and few will play it beyond 3 months. Just a pitiful excuse for a MMO.
Y'know, I'm not playing the game, or planning on buying it any time soon, but theres this one thing I've GOT to point out to people, since it seems they're missing something massive...
A ) The costs here are three dollars to, effectively, play an Orc in the Alliance.
B ) The money-based race costs a buck. Hell, its more of a throwaway joke than a sign of the end-times.
.... This is seriously a shitstorm, people? Ye gods.
Y'know, I'm not playing the game, or planning on buying it any time soon, but theres this one thing I've GOT to point out to people, since it seems they're missing something massive...
A ) The costs here are three dollars to, effectively, play an Orc in the Alliance. B ) The money-based race costs a buck. Hell, its more of a throwaway joke than a sign of the end-times.
.... This is seriously a shitstorm, people? Ye gods.
The point being made is the principle not the amount, erosion of what you take for granted or expect is always erroded slowly, and if you dont get the principle of what allot of people complaining about, then well please keep playing, enjoy your game and leave others to bemoan the fleecing of the sheep.
1)These races are just skins and nothing more, oh with a few inconsequential traits attached. If you play the game then you will know what i mean, if you dont play the game then you are going on 2nd hand info and don't really know what you are talking about (sorry).
2) Even if they are for sale? So what? Are we, the players, not responsible for in game shops? When the devs embrace what we want we get upset about it. And if you dont know what i am referring to i am talking about Gold sellers or specfically Gold buyers. They started this trend of buying stuff in games and now we have to live with it, tough, get used to it already as we brought it upon ourselves and it is set to stay.
3) We complain that games are not released all singing, all dancing, polished, bug free, content rich and with an engaging End Game. You think these feature just fall into the game or that the producers of games are subsidised by the government?
Well the simply answer is they are not? Games cost money to produce, there is not a lot of money in making games, they don't pay programmers so well, so the top notch programmers do not work for games companies. Game companies are out to make money as well as try to satisfy the gaming comunity as they strive to meet the requests in point 3 above. So they find ways of making money, life time subs, ingame stores, name changes, race changes etc. to fund all the gamers requirements and make a profit.
And what do we do ?? Complain Complain complain meh...........Anyone would think we hate this genre and want it to die!
My God we must be spending a lot of our hard earn cash on our main source of entertainment! Yeah, we buy a box for $60 and a monthly sub of $15 and play the game every day for a year, which when you break it down comes to about 20 cents an hour(and it is so enjoyable we get addicted).
WHAT other form of entertainment costs that? And yet we complain. We are simply cheap, ungrateful, freeloaders imho.
Just look at the responses in this thread all compalints about spending money. rofl even $2 or $3.
I for one would be happy to pay double the amount of the box and twice if not more for the monthly sub if i can get a decent game. Yes I am prepared to pay for my entertainment and don't expect to them be free or pay a pittance for it as we are currently are doing.
Kind of feels like a F2P concept to me. Yeah it's a few bucks, but if they keep adding stuff like this, it adds up eventually. I really don't feel like going out of my way to get points. Buying points for any game is a complete fail. Now as for expansion packs it is worth it. Because not only do you get more races but you get more content. It's kind of like Hanukkah and Christmas. I would rather have all my gifts at once rather than get one a day. Plus expansion packs build more hype and thus the pre orders and sales create more of a turnover.
Three points : 1)These races are just skins and nothing more, oh with a few inconsequential traits attached. If you play the game then you will know what i mean, if you dont play the game then you are going on 2nd hand info and don't really know what you are talking about (sorry).
2) Even if they are for sale? So what? Are we, the players, not responsible for in game shops? When the devs embrace what we want we get upset about it. And if you dont know what i am referring to i am talking about Gold sellers or specfically Gold buyers. They started this trend of buying stuff in games and now we have to live with it, tough, get used to it already as we brought it upon ourselves and it is set to stay.
3) We complain that games are not released all singing, all dancing, polished, bug free, content rich and with an engaging End Game. You think these feature just fall into the game or that the producers of games are subsidised by the government?
Well the simply answer is they are not? Games cost money to produce, there is not a lot of money in making games, they don't pay programmers so well, so the top notch programmers do not work for games companies. Game companies are out to make money as well as try to satisfy the gaming comunity as they strive to meet the requests in point 3 above. So they find ways of making money, life time subs, ingame stores, name changes, race changes etc. to fund all the gamers requirements and make a profit.
And what do we do ?? Complain Complain complain meh...........Anyone would think we hate this genre and want it to die!
My God we must be spending a lot of our hard earn cash on our main source of entertainment! Yeah, we buy a box for $60 and a monthly sub of $15 and play the game every day for a year, which when you break it down comes to about 20 cents an hour(and it is so enjoyable we get addicted).
WHAT other form of entertainment costs that? And yet we complain. We are simply cheap, ungrateful, freeloaders imho.
Just look at the responses in this thread all compalints about spending money. rofl even $2 or $3. I for one would be happy to pay double the amount of the box and twice if not more for the monthly sub if i can get a decent game. Yes I am prepared to pay for my entertainment and don't expect to them be free or pay a pittance for it as we are currently are doing.
Free loaders? We're still playing money to pay. And who cares what it breaks down to daily. Even in a month's time $15 could be gas or groceries. Some of us are just barely making ends meet in the meantime so every bit of $ counts. And those programmers make a hell of a lot more than I do. Try being unemployed since March of 2009 and getting side work here and there to stay afloat. A lot of people may hate WoW, but for me I can manage to swing $15 a month and I still get to have content added via patches without paying anything extra. And at most I only have to worry about an expansion once a year. If STO works out, then great for them. I wish them luck. But I really don't want to have to pay more for extras unless it's an expansion.
If you're paying a monthly fee, you shouldn't be nickel and dimed for features that should be included in a Star Trek game. I play STO and enjoy it, but I refuse to pay to create a Federation Klingon or a Ferengi. You want to put sunglasses or costumes in a store that's fine, but not major races from the lore that should be included from the start.
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If you have self respect / brains, you'll cancel your preorder.
Sad something so horrible can be called Star Trek. Cryptic is truly taking on the onus of it's parent. Atari.
Can't believe so many chumps are buying it. As P.T. Barnum said " there is a sucker born every minute".
The main graphical issue being that their balance on their online statement wasn't increasing at the desired rate.
-----
The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
The main graphical issue being that their balance on their online statement wasn't increasing at the desired rate.
Just like they suddenly put a CAP on a NO CAP designed skill system at the end of Open Beta. Otherwise they couldn't start selling extra character slots and Respecs via the C-store as well.
Very well stated. This is the sole reason why I refuse to play STO.
I will never play a Cryptic game. Their entire practice is pure greed. They know that they can milk every dollar from hardcore Star Trek fans. They spend too much on collectibles as is.
Is this true? Wow...just wow. Im an old gamer and watched Star Trek as a kid and well...I'm just sad this game turned out this way. Was hoping for better than a "free game" quality, money grab. Too bad, Nimoy. Good thing he doenst have the ability to feel.
Is this a good move for STO, it's anyone's guess. If they can get enough fans into the game that don't know any better this might work. My hope, they go down in flames. A message needs to be sent to MMO publishers, BOX+SUB+RMT = NO SALE. The only thing in the C-Store from launch should have been items such as character transfers, renames or slots. I just don't think this is a way to start a relationship with a customer.
What I gathered, this is not locking customers out of an entire faction, it's only a skin. I am also not sure, but some STO forum posters said these "skins" were already in the game but taken out because of graphic issues and were not told they would be sold back to them. I can't confirm that however as no one has posted a dev blog.
After reading CO's move to charge for an expansion that fills a much needed gap and now this I can't fathom anyone on MMORPG could be surprised by this news. Whether you agree with these business practices or not you must admit Cryptic is starting to develop quite a bad reputation. This is kind of a bummer, I was hoping EVE would get some worthwhile competition.
STO character renames are free and there is no need for character transfers as there is only one Universe in which all play. Additional character slots on the other hand will most propably be sold in C-Store.
On the other hand if they start selling character transfers from Federation faction to Klingon faction or reverse of that, then they start going deeply to stupid ideas. That should be implemented as something that you can play yourself into if this is really ever implemented.
49.99$ with no working key and pay2play races
all sa(i)d
faster pussycat - kill kill kill
It's the way of future games in the U.S. market, no big deal, to me it's a non issue, I don't have to use it, but more and more games are adding micro-transactions, they are a for profit company, they don't make these games for us out of the goodness of thier hearts, that would be nice...
Its only "the way of the future" if people let it be, nothing is set in stone, if people vote with their feet so to speak againest certain trends within the MMORPG genre then you will be suprised how fast it stops.
However all this requires people to make a long term descision about gaming and act apon it, sadly its easier to whinge and whine than to act, and also the tendencies for people en masse to behave like sheep, so as long as there is some grazing to be had in these RMT + monthly games people will go BAAAAaaaaa but shuffle along its shallow content, move onto the next "Thing" rinse and repeat, which is how this all started in the first place.
Edit..Actually I curse the F2P crowd, they have brought everything down to the lowest common denominator, these games all breed a sweatshop mentiality that then creates the sweatshop gold farmers and......Well before rant takes full flight of spit flecked shouted abuse, lets just say I dislike everything with a passion that one writer for this site keeps trying to say/push about inovation and fun from Asia.
Nothing personnel its a nice beard and sunglasses look, but I aint buying what your clearly selling. Only grind I enjoy is my coffee beans for 5 mins in the morning, was going say 3 mins with the wife but that be pampering to the lowest common denominator.....
Thing that bugs me about the "fan" reaction is that you DON'T HAVE TO buy these races to play the game. All you are paying for is a FEDERATION Klingon or Ferengi - not the right to play their faction but to play a Federation version. If you know Star Trek Lore then you would know these races are rarely Federation members. If you want to play one then there is a cost.
Frankly if you don't want to - DON'T BUY THEM! Play the game without them.
All mmo's have something they charge extra above the sub+retail box- in WoW you pay to change server or race; in COH you had to pay for extra character slots etc etc. it's hardly new in MMO's. Cryptic's mistake here was not announce in advance what was going to be in the C Store.
If the idea of paying extra for something stops you looking at a game good luck finding any game out there for you.
I am wondering about people that don't visit forums or official websites and then go to a game-store or anywhere they sell games and see the box and think SWEET a "Star Trek Online" game.
How much info is on the box about the game, might want to check this out later today when I go to the city....
Announce?? They flat out lied to their playerbase about it!
The 2 races were available during Closed Beta and were suddenly pulled from it, with the message that it was bugged and that it would be put back into the game later on.
Instead, it was just an excuse and they weren't bugged, as they just decided to put it in the C-store instead to squeeze out more cash from the players.
Just like they pulled the NO CAP idea last minute in Open Beta and put a CAP on their skill system. Just so they can sell extra char slots and later on respecs through their C-store as well. And this one was really bad, as they really tried to keep this under the rug and quiet! They haven't even updated their site yet. It's still saying that it's open! /facepalm
Cryptic has become so predictable. It's not even funny. More like crying, seeing how many naive fans continue to defend them with every last breath they have, because they are so desperate to have a Star Trek game. /Sigh
Disgraceful behaviour for a MMORPG website, that is hardly an article or news piece, it is entirely intended to hurt the game.
For example, did you know that two new races are available to players at the C-Store? Federation Klingon and Federation Ferengi can both be had for 240 and 80 Cryptic Points respectively
So what? You didn't comment on the game, or its launch, all you did was pick up that line and a picture of it and attempt to insult the reputation of the company.
No wonder this site has gone downhill in the recent years.
Your information presents itself without clarity and the lesser intellects could take it as meaning you have to pay for klingons.
Which is not true at all.
whats bad about this game?
Fixed!
I won't buy this junk, pay to play Borg and other races is just taking the **** in my opinion. Even if that weren't happening it's not even a bloody MMORPG! I mean it's like the red headed step child of Champions online and Guild wars but with a trek skin and subscription fee with a cash shop being run by Quark's mercenary brother!
This game is not only a perversion of the Star Trek name it's also a perversion of the MMORPG genre!
Gene Roddenberry is no doubt rolling in his grave right now,
Agricola.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
You can take your blinders off now. Just to enlighten you, the company deserves the negative press, they are going to soak the playerbase for every cent they can because there is no depth to it and few will play it beyond 3 months. Just a pitiful excuse for a MMO.
Y'know, I'm not playing the game, or planning on buying it any time soon, but theres this one thing I've GOT to point out to people, since it seems they're missing something massive...
A ) The costs here are three dollars to, effectively, play an Orc in the Alliance.
B ) The money-based race costs a buck. Hell, its more of a throwaway joke than a sign of the end-times.
.... This is seriously a shitstorm, people? Ye gods.
The point being made is the principle not the amount, erosion of what you take for granted or expect is always erroded slowly, and if you dont get the principle of what allot of people complaining about, then well please keep playing, enjoy your game and leave others to bemoan the fleecing of the sheep.
Wow, way to prove my point about people not paying attention.
Three points :
1)These races are just skins and nothing more, oh with a few inconsequential traits attached. If you play the game then you will know what i mean, if you dont play the game then you are going on 2nd hand info and don't really know what you are talking about (sorry).
2) Even if they are for sale? So what? Are we, the players, not responsible for in game shops? When the devs embrace what we want we get upset about it. And if you dont know what i am referring to i am talking about Gold sellers or specfically Gold buyers. They started this trend of buying stuff in games and now we have to live with it, tough, get used to it already as we brought it upon ourselves and it is set to stay.
3) We complain that games are not released all singing, all dancing, polished, bug free, content rich and with an engaging End Game. You think these feature just fall into the game or that the producers of games are subsidised by the government?
Well the simply answer is they are not? Games cost money to produce, there is not a lot of money in making games, they don't pay programmers so well, so the top notch programmers do not work for games companies. Game companies are out to make money as well as try to satisfy the gaming comunity as they strive to meet the requests in point 3 above. So they find ways of making money, life time subs, ingame stores, name changes, race changes etc. to fund all the gamers requirements and make a profit.
And what do we do ?? Complain Complain complain meh...........Anyone would think we hate this genre and want it to die!
My God we must be spending a lot of our hard earn cash on our main source of entertainment! Yeah, we buy a box for $60 and a monthly sub of $15 and play the game every day for a year, which when you break it down comes to about 20 cents an hour(and it is so enjoyable we get addicted).
WHAT other form of entertainment costs that? And yet we complain. We are simply cheap, ungrateful, freeloaders imho.
Just look at the responses in this thread all compalints about spending money. rofl even $2 or $3.
I for one would be happy to pay double the amount of the box and twice if not more for the monthly sub if i can get a decent game. Yes I am prepared to pay for my entertainment and don't expect to them be free or pay a pittance for it as we are currently are doing.
Kind of feels like a F2P concept to me. Yeah it's a few bucks, but if they keep adding stuff like this, it adds up eventually. I really don't feel like going out of my way to get points. Buying points for any game is a complete fail. Now as for expansion packs it is worth it. Because not only do you get more races but you get more content. It's kind of like Hanukkah and Christmas. I would rather have all my gifts at once rather than get one a day. Plus expansion packs build more hype and thus the pre orders and sales create more of a turnover.
Getting too old for this $&17!
Free loaders? We're still playing money to pay. And who cares what it breaks down to daily. Even in a month's time $15 could be gas or groceries. Some of us are just barely making ends meet in the meantime so every bit of $ counts. And those programmers make a hell of a lot more than I do. Try being unemployed since March of 2009 and getting side work here and there to stay afloat. A lot of people may hate WoW, but for me I can manage to swing $15 a month and I still get to have content added via patches without paying anything extra. And at most I only have to worry about an expansion once a year. If STO works out, then great for them. I wish them luck. But I really don't want to have to pay more for extras unless it's an expansion.
Getting too old for this $&17!
If you're paying a monthly fee, you shouldn't be nickel and dimed for features that should be included in a Star Trek game. I play STO and enjoy it, but I refuse to pay to create a Federation Klingon or a Ferengi. You want to put sunglasses or costumes in a store that's fine, but not major races from the lore that should be included from the start.