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Protesting the IGE Ads
Owyn
Member Posts: 337
I thought I'd lodge this here as a formal complaint against the IGE ads running on this site.
IGE is a company that earns revenue through the dubiously legal buying and selling of property that does not belong to them; that is, virtual goods and money from online games.
That the selling of things which you do not own constitutes fraud is unarguable. Providing a platform for this activity - and earning money from it - is probably criminal in its own right.
Beyond the legalities of the situation, IGE does immense harm to every game it operates in. By facilitating the easy real-world sale of ingame materials, it cheapens the playing experience of every gamer, whether they use the service or not.
I'd like to ask the MMORPG staff to please consider seeking adverstisement elsewhere, and place principle before dollars on this issue. Give IGE the boot.
Owyn
Commander, Defenders of Order
http://www.defendersoforder.com
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I would like to lodge a formal complaint against all the whining about IGE.
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I agree that IGE does hurt in game economies, but mmorpg.com needs ad revenue to continue. If you wanna piss, moan and complain about the ads, fine. The fact of the matter is that IGE's not going anywhere anytime soon, and they're paying good money to advertise here. If you don't wanna support IGE, fine. Don't click the ad. However, for those who wish to support them, the ad is there. That's how it's going to be, so just deal with it, and suck it up.
Are you planning on paying per month to access this site then? These services are not free someone does have to pay the bill. And like it or lump it, IGE pays the bills. If noone pays the bills, things get shut off. Unfortunatlly in the real world, Principle does nothing to keep one in business. So unless you are willing to pay by the month for access, then I suggest you think before posting absurd suggestions like this again.
Personally I will deal with a few ad's by companies I do not support so I do not have to break out my wallet for information.
I agree wholeheartedly with the original poster and would like the IGE adds to be removed also. If mmorpg.com needs revenue so desperately they must take it from IGE to function that would be fine but I don't believe this to be the case.
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"The key to wasting time is distraction. Without distractions it's too obvious to your brain that you're not doing anything with it, and you start to feel uncomfortable." - Paul Graham http://paulgraham.com/hs.html
Give it up people. The selling of in-game currency, items and characters for real world cash is not going to stop. Knowing IGE, they have probably paid in advance for months of ads, so even if they wanted to, this site could not just stop them.
Besides, the only true way to stop them from advertising all over is to not buy from them. If nobody bought from them, they would not be able to afford ads on dozens of sites like they do now. Obviously they have plenty of customers who do not share your view, so I would not count on that helping either.
Live with it or continue whining on the forums as others have.
Frankly I wish you'd all just stop these threads. They have not worked for the last year by cropping up a couple times per week, so they are not going to ever work anyway.
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Malianea
I don't support what they do, but it's not a slam-dunk case that what IGE does is illegal. It's a very grey area at the moment. But in any case, it is not fraud. It would be fraud if they took your money and did not supply what they said they were supplying, but that's not what IGE does. At best, IGE is violating the TM rights of the gaming companies because when they log in to transfer the in-game coin and items they are violating the TOS, and therefore infringing on the TM rights of the content licensor.
Protest all you want.It isnt going to stop.
It wont stop until one thing happens.The DEVELOPERS that advertise on this site need to stop it.Ultimately they are the enablers of this practice.Thats not gonna happen anytime soon.It used to be that massive ingame "money"exchanges were tracked and the people involved banned from the game itself.
Not so anymore a cottage industry has sprung up from the popularity of online gaming.The more difficult it is for ANY gamer to acquire ingame cash the more likley they will be turning to IGE to get an edge.Just look at EvE online.A player can buy something like 1million isk for 20 real dollars.Lets say you have already been playing for 6 months as a soloist.At this point you have already invested over 100 dollars so whats 20 bucks more?Even better your playing a new game that you really REALLY want to play.But you dont have a lot of time to play hardcore hours.20 bucks extra to make the game more enjoyable is worth it.Ill tell ya right now if it wasnt so easy to get ingame money at higher levels in the game im playing id do it.I was considering it when my guild hit 1 year as a sort of bonus for my members.
Heck man why wouldnt a player do this?Obviously there is a market for it.
Whos to say IGE doesnt slide some cash to the devs on the side so the DONT get banned?Exploits be damned ill bet anything this goes on.Think about it the developers win 2 times.1st they get a paid account and then a percentage of profits from a company farming credits.If its a game with a small player base its even better.
Sure i cant prove this is a standard practice but i dont see anyone disproving either.Sorry man but get used to it is part of the MMO economies now.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Just play the damn game:)
There's a lot of things out there A LOT more worthwhile to protest.
As long as you have someone who has an excess of time, and someone else who has an excess of money, you will see those two people get together and trade what they have in excess of. Hence, you will never see an end to the bartering of in-game items for hard currency.
Basically took the words out of my mouth. You guys really need to suck it up. The cash-trading industry is too big for it to be shut down now. It's like Bittorrent, they may shut down Suprnova.org, but they can't shut down Bittorent all together. As long as there is a big support for it, the market will continue to thrive. You just have to face the facts really.
Basically took the words out of my mouth. You guys really need to suck it up. The cash-trading industry is too big for it to be shut down now. It's like Bittorrent, they may shut down Suprnova.org, but they can't shut down Bittorent all together. As long as there is a big support for it, the market will continue to thrive. You just have to face the facts really.
Amen. Could not have said it better myself. Lodging your little complaints wont change anything anyways.
This might sound stupid but....could someone explain to me what is IGE?? I dont know what is that neither i see anything saying those words or letters within this site.
I'm sorry for bothering this thread with this thing but i really dont know what is all that. Thanks.
to all u that bring up the advertising dollars, bullshit, theres tons of MMOs that would fill IGE spot, most likely a MMORPG.com admin has worked out a little deal where he gets kickbacks in what ever game he plays (hate to throw the accusation out, but nothing has been done about the ads or has any mod commented on this issue)
heres what you do, pick up MMO w/ open pvp, find teh farmers, PK the shit out of them, train em, whetever you need to do to halt thier farming
Id like to lodge a complaint about people complaining about people complaining about IGE ...
In the 'ph4t l3wt' fairy we trust, all others must pay cash.
Hell. I'd tattoo IGE on my ass for twenty clams.
I'd like to lodge a complaint over knee-jerk flames, but then again most of you would lose a large portion of your message count and this place would be a ghost town.
As for the topic, I also disapprove of the ads but also realize that bandwidth is expensive. A site like this probably isn't in the position to choose it's advertisements. The best we can do is simply not support IGE.
Well then I'd like to lodge a complaint about ....
Oh wait, I'd then be complaining about the person complaining about the person that disagreed with me lol.
Nevermind ... move on
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Malianea
IGE is a company which deals in the buying and selling of "virtual goods". Basically they buy and sell items in various MMORPG's.
The funny thing is that these posts complaining about IGE bring even more attention to the company they are trying to protest their advertisements for. Don't you people realize you are giving this company more free advertising than anything else?
There are an awful lot of flamers in this forum. Even the veteran members...
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Thanks for answering my question.
Just another one: Where are those IGE?? i havent seen one yet...
BTW..i totally disapprove that kind of things, but i really believe that it is all up to the player....i really dont see the purpose in buying a game, and buy an already developed char with the best items out there. I really dont get the point!! Anyway, if a guy wants to spend the money in that....what the hell? let him be!! it is his/her problem..right?
The purpose of the game is to have fun while you develop your char!! At least for me...he he he.
Thanks again.
Thats the point. But for some morons, just owning a max lvl char and lots of ingame money somehow represents their penis size, even if they bought it from IGE. Its true that IGE isnt going anywhere anytime soon, and it is true that if ppl werent buying from them, they would go out of business, *BUT* that does NOT mean that it should be accepted!
As of now, it is legal, but it CAN ruin games. It should not be here on mmorpg.com -.-
You might as well point out that rain is wet.
I Agree
sites like IGE kill games.
Which game has been "killed" by "sites like IGE?"