I would agree with that, but I didn't see the OP make a broad statement about anything other than not liking FF13(his or her opinion) and hoping FF14 doesn't follow in the footsteps of FF13.
Not really sure a MMO can follow in the footsteps exactly of a console, but it is still a legitimate concern.
It is a legitimate concern if you didn't like XIII. If only he hadn't presented his concern in such an eh... extreme way.
The replies kinda tend to be extreme, after that!
I think you need to read the OP post again. If you think that is an "extreme" post, you are way too sensitive.
I think you need to read the OP post again. If you think that is an "extreme" post, you are way too sensitive.
It's another thing to say "I didn't really like FFXIII, and I wonder if XIV will be the same?" than "I am disgusted at how bad FFXIII is, will FFXIV suck as horribly as it does?"
Can't really go more over-the-top than that.
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
Lol, it's funny that just because someone disagrees with you on one game, you just assume that the person has nothing else in common with you or doesn't "share a similar mindset". Sounds pretty small-minded to me.
It's not like the OP came on saying "I know FFXIV is going to suck because...". Instead, she asked a question.
Was she venting against FFXIII? Sure. But it hardly seemed offensive at all and for you and others to get so bent out of shape from the OP's post is sad.
People make posts about their subjective opinions all of the time on these forums. As long as its not being presented as fact (which it was not), what is the big deal? So it sounds silly to demand "proof" for one's opinion. Also, by now, it is common knowledge that a lot of people are disappointed with FFXIII.
My initial post wasn't even directed at you but you now sound like someone who will have a problem with anyone who dislikes any Final Fantasy game or anyone who has a different opinion than you on even one thing.
Did you read my post or not? Him disliking FFXIII is not why I wouldn't want to play with him. That rant tells more about him than just the fact that he dislikes XIII. Not liking a game or a serie has never been a reason for me to not like someone.
Yes, he was venting on FFXIII. On an FFXIV forum. No argument, no proof, no evidence. Just pure ranting. Yes, that is offensive to me.
Now had he actually implied that it's his opinion and not a fact that FFXIII sucks, I wouldn't have been as harsh. It was not presented as fact? I took it as such. Nothing in that post implies that it's his opinion, not a fact. He even backs up his point by saying he's a "long standing FF fan". So he knows what he's talking about. Yeah.
I demand nothing. I am only questioning why he came to these forums to vent about the game. I see nothing more but an attempt at flaming.
Weird that I wouldn't want to play with people like that.
Yes, I have a problem with guys that come to forums that have nothing to do with the game and attempt to flame it. How you figure this mean I have a problem with everyone not liking Final Fantasy I don't know. Maybe it's because I disagreed with you. But let me tell you this: you != everyone else.
Heh, I like how I pointed out that you don't want to be on the same server as someone just because they don't think exactly like you so you decide to say,
"How you figure this mean I have a problem with everyone not liking Final Fantasy I don't know. Maybe it's because I disagreed with you."
You can try to project your traits onto me all you want but it doesn't make it true.
Just admit it, you got mad at the OP for not liking a FF game...
Heh, I like how I pointed out that you don't want to be on the same server as someone just because they don't think exactly like you so you decide to say,
"How you figure this mean I have a problem with everyone not liking Final Fantasy I don't know. Maybe it's because I disagreed with you."
You can try to project your traits onto me all you want but it doesn't make it true.
Just admit it, you got mad at the OP for not liking a FF game...
Just guessing. You might have a valid reason for figuring out what you did, but you didn't do a very good job at explaining it.
Did I get mad at the OP? When did this happen? I don't have to angry/mad at someone to not want to play with him. Is this some universal rule that you need to hate everyone you want to ignore? Okay.
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
They are 2 differen't kinds of games. One is a mmo and the other is a turn base story driven rpg. I don't see the comparison here and saying FFXIII sucked is subjective at best.
Did I get mad at the OP? When did this happen? I don't have to angry/mad at someone to not want to play with him. Is this some universal rule that you need to hate everyone you want to ignore? Okay.
They are 2 differen't kinds of games. One is a mmo and the other is a turn base story driven rpg. I don't see the comparison here and saying FFXVIII sucked is subjective at best.
Whoa! Are you from the future? I can't wait to play FF 18!
Just kidding around with you
For the record, I completely agree with you. I just don't think it was a very offensive opinion/post.
They are 2 differen't kinds of games. One is a mmo and the other is a turn base story driven rpg. I don't see the comparison here and saying FFXVIII sucked is subjective at best.
Whoa! Are you from the future? I can't wait to play FF 18!
Just kidding around with you
For the record, I completely agree with you. I just don't think it was a very offensive opinion/post.
LOL oops should have lost the V! Anyway yeah, there is just no way to compare the two games whatsoever.
obviously ff13 and ff14 can not be in anyway similiar. Your going to control 1 character in ff14 and join partys not control a party for that simple reason nothing in ff13 can be like ff14.
Square was smart in doing 1 single player and 1 mmo to try and keep both there auidiences happy but they are completly seperate games made by different sections of square. If your experience in ff13 makes you not want to try ff14 well then your an idiot but thats your opinion and your intitled to it.
much like every other new game I am sure most of us will give it a try.
I am disgusted at how bad FFXIII is ... to the point of returning it after around 15hours of gameplay.
Biggest waste of money i've spent on a video game ever.
Long standing FF fan
For me FFXIII is the best FF I ever played (single player). I do like FFXI more, but that's because I play with other people.
I played FFVII to FFXIII, I do have FFI to FFVI at home, but I couldn't get into them.
But that's just my opinion.
I loved the story, while the plot is as most FF I played, it is the group and how they act together is what make this FF stand out for me. Finally a party who all have a reason to be there. Also I love the emotions shown, and for me they could even show more.
I don't care about freedom, usually I take a guide when I get that kind of freedom, I don't want waste time to find the right path. Also I am not much into mini games, still I enjoyed the snowboard game in FFVII, and the chocobo breeding, and also liked the cardgame of FFVIII.
I also like the battles, finally a FF game I died in many times, I actually had to think in this one. I always liked the combat in FF games, but this one was really challanging.
Were in other FF games the only things challanging was the optional bosses.
Anyway, everyone has their own taste. So that I love this game doesn't make it great game. It is just my opinion.
I am disgusted at how bad FFXIII is ... to the point of returning it after around 15hours of gameplay.
Biggest waste of money i've spent on a video game ever.
Long standing FF fan
For me FFXIII is the best FF I ever played (single player). I do like FFXI more, but that's because I play with other people.
I played FFVII to FFXIII, I do have FFI to FFVI at home, but I couldn't get into them.
But that's just my opinion.
I loved the story, while the plot is as most FF I played, it is the group and how they act together is what make this FF stand out for me. Finally a party who all have a reason to be there. Also I love the emotions shown, and for me they could even show more.
I don't care about freedom, usually I take a guide when I get that kind of freedom, I don't want waste time to find the right path. Also I am not much into mini games, still I enjoyed the snowboard game in FFVII, and the chocobo breeding, and also liked the cardgame of FFVIII.
I also like the battles, finally a FF game I died in many times, I actually had to think in this one. I always liked the combat in FF games, but this one was really challanging.
Were in other FF games the only things challanging was the optional bosses.
Anyway, everyone has their own taste. So that I love this game doesn't make it great game. It is just my opinion.
Totally agree, except that my favorite is FFX but this one is next and then FFVII.
But definatly the best battle system ever...i just wish versus XIII have the same battle system...but oh well, doesn't sound like it :
I don't understand why all that people do here (mmorpg.com) is complain.... no body really cares what anyone else thinks on forums. I guess it is true what they say, "If you don't like it, go on the internet and complain."
Nothing constructive has been done, and nothing has been solved. Why give a game you hate more of your time by complaining about it 24/7?
A) Not everyone believes XIII sucks. I've heard reviews that run the spectrum, from "ass" to "awesome"
FFXIV isn't even out yet and no one *really* knows exactly how it will play; only the descriptions SEs' given which of course dont' really convey how it will be in action.
C) When FFXIV comes out and people have had a fair opportunity to actually *play* the game, opinions will again run from "ass" to "awesome"
I wouldn't even begin to know how to answer the OP's question other than to say "We'll have to wait and see how the game turns out, won't we?"
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
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Took me just about 60 hours... I think I kinda got carried away by Gran Pulse, ho ho.
I think you need to read the OP post again. If you think that is an "extreme" post, you are way too sensitive.
It's another thing to say "I didn't really like FFXIII, and I wonder if XIV will be the same?" than "I am disgusted at how bad FFXIII is, will FFXIV suck as horribly as it does?"
Can't really go more over-the-top than that.
Heh, I like how I pointed out that you don't want to be on the same server as someone just because they don't think exactly like you so you decide to say,
"How you figure this mean I have a problem with everyone not liking Final Fantasy I don't know. Maybe it's because I disagreed with you."
You can try to project your traits onto me all you want but it doesn't make it true.
Just admit it, you got mad at the OP for not liking a FF game...
Just guessing. You might have a valid reason for figuring out what you did, but you didn't do a very good job at explaining it.
Did I get mad at the OP? When did this happen? I don't have to angry/mad at someone to not want to play with him. Is this some universal rule that you need to hate everyone you want to ignore? Okay.
They are 2 differen't kinds of games. One is a mmo and the other is a turn base story driven rpg. I don't see the comparison here and saying FFXIII sucked is subjective at best.
Semantics. I'll let it die here.
Whoa! Are you from the future? I can't wait to play FF 18!
Just kidding around with you
For the record, I completely agree with you. I just don't think it was a very offensive opinion/post.
LOL oops should have lost the V! Anyway yeah, there is just no way to compare the two games whatsoever.
obviously ff13 and ff14 can not be in anyway similiar. Your going to control 1 character in ff14 and join partys not control a party for that simple reason nothing in ff13 can be like ff14.
Square was smart in doing 1 single player and 1 mmo to try and keep both there auidiences happy but they are completly seperate games made by different sections of square. If your experience in ff13 makes you not want to try ff14 well then your an idiot but thats your opinion and your intitled to it.
much like every other new game I am sure most of us will give it a try.
For me FFXIII is the best FF I ever played (single player). I do like FFXI more, but that's because I play with other people.
I played FFVII to FFXIII, I do have FFI to FFVI at home, but I couldn't get into them.
But that's just my opinion.
I loved the story, while the plot is as most FF I played, it is the group and how they act together is what make this FF stand out for me. Finally a party who all have a reason to be there. Also I love the emotions shown, and for me they could even show more.
I don't care about freedom, usually I take a guide when I get that kind of freedom, I don't want waste time to find the right path. Also I am not much into mini games, still I enjoyed the snowboard game in FFVII, and the chocobo breeding, and also liked the cardgame of FFVIII.
I also like the battles, finally a FF game I died in many times, I actually had to think in this one. I always liked the combat in FF games, but this one was really challanging.
Were in other FF games the only things challanging was the optional bosses.
Anyway, everyone has their own taste. So that I love this game doesn't make it great game. It is just my opinion.
Totally agree, except that my favorite is FFX but this one is next and then FFVII.
But definatly the best battle system ever...i just wish versus XIII have the same battle system...but oh well, doesn't sound like it :
Well... I'd say at the very least, it's a tie :-p
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
I don't understand why all that people do here (mmorpg.com) is complain.... no body really cares what anyone else thinks on forums. I guess it is true what they say, "If you don't like it, go on the internet and complain."
Nothing constructive has been done, and nothing has been solved. Why give a game you hate more of your time by complaining about it 24/7?
Sad sad buckets of internet, I you all.
This is really an odd topic.
A) Not everyone believes XIII sucks. I've heard reviews that run the spectrum, from "ass" to "awesome"
FFXIV isn't even out yet and no one *really* knows exactly how it will play; only the descriptions SEs' given which of course dont' really convey how it will be in action.
C) When FFXIV comes out and people have had a fair opportunity to actually *play* the game, opinions will again run from "ass" to "awesome"
I wouldn't even begin to know how to answer the OP's question other than to say "We'll have to wait and see how the game turns out, won't we?"
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops